Comments on: OMGranderson Watch: The Cubs Have the Prospects to Get Granderson, But Will They Use Them? http://www.bleachernation.com/2009/11/16/omgranderson-watch-the-cubs-have-the-prospects-to-get-granderson-but-will-they-use-them/ Chicago Cubs Rumors, News and Commentary Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:11:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jacob http://www.bleachernation.com/2009/11/16/omgranderson-watch-the-cubs-have-the-prospects-to-get-granderson-but-will-they-use-them/comment-page-1/#comment-4230 Jacob Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:49:42 +0000 http://www.bleachernation.com/?p=4208#comment-4230 For Granderson he isn't. He is one of our better pitchers. And we are already going on empty with the pitching quality. I wouldn't trade him for Granderson is all. I never said he was untouchable in the comment. For Granderson he isn’t. He is one of our better pitchers. And we are already going on empty with the pitching quality. I wouldn’t trade him for Granderson is all. I never said he was untouchable in the comment.

]]> By: Ace http://www.bleachernation.com/2009/11/16/omgranderson-watch-the-cubs-have-the-prospects-to-get-granderson-but-will-they-use-them/comment-page-1/#comment-4191 Ace Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:40:56 +0000 http://www.bleachernation.com/?p=4208#comment-4191 Why is Marmol untouchable, Jacob? He's great and cheap, but he's wildly (pun) inconsistent. Maybe he'll developing into a top tier closer this year, but maybe he'll struggle with control again. Do I want to trade Marmol? Nah. But to be untouchable? Nah. Why is Marmol untouchable, Jacob? He’s great and cheap, but he’s wildly (pun) inconsistent. Maybe he’ll developing into a top tier closer this year, but maybe he’ll struggle with control again.

Do I want to trade Marmol? Nah. But to be untouchable? Nah.

]]> By: Jacob http://www.bleachernation.com/2009/11/16/omgranderson-watch-the-cubs-have-the-prospects-to-get-granderson-but-will-they-use-them/comment-page-1/#comment-4187 Jacob Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:53:57 +0000 http://www.bleachernation.com/?p=4208#comment-4187 Josh Vitters, 3b Hak-Ju Lee, ss Chris Carpenter, rhp I'd deal those three from the farm system. But I would absolutely, positively, NEVER include Marmol. And that would be close to a final offer too. Maybe someone such as Heilman or Miles thrown in. But thats about it. Just me personally. Josh Vitters, 3b
Hak-Ju Lee, ss
Chris Carpenter, rhp

I’d deal those three from the farm system. But I would absolutely, positively, NEVER include Marmol. And that would be close to a final offer too. Maybe someone such as Heilman or Miles thrown in. But thats about it. Just me personally.

]]> By: Ace http://www.bleachernation.com/2009/11/16/omgranderson-watch-the-cubs-have-the-prospects-to-get-granderson-but-will-they-use-them/comment-page-1/#comment-4171 Ace Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:19:12 +0000 http://www.bleachernation.com/?p=4208#comment-4171 Look, I agree with you guys that the price is too steep, but you're selling Granderson WAY short. He's not "maybe" a better than average outfielder. He's definitely above average, in a spot the Cubs need. And it's not a matter of him simply not being able to hit lefties. He can't hit lefties... but he rakes against righties. Ultimately, I like where your final proposal is at, Aisle. So, er, I guess we agree? Look, I agree with you guys that the price is too steep, but you’re selling Granderson WAY short.

He’s not “maybe” a better than average outfielder. He’s definitely above average, in a spot the Cubs need. And it’s not a matter of him simply not being able to hit lefties. He can’t hit lefties… but he rakes against righties.

Ultimately, I like where your final proposal is at, Aisle. So, er, I guess we agree?

]]> By: Mark http://www.bleachernation.com/2009/11/16/omgranderson-watch-the-cubs-have-the-prospects-to-get-granderson-but-will-they-use-them/comment-page-1/#comment-4170 Mark Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:53:55 +0000 http://www.bleachernation.com/?p=4208#comment-4170 Definitely too steep a price for a guy that can't hit lefties. Why do you think the Tigers want to get rid of him so badly? Definitely too steep a price for a guy that can’t hit lefties. Why do you think the Tigers want to get rid of him so badly?

]]> By: Aisle 424 http://www.bleachernation.com/2009/11/16/omgranderson-watch-the-cubs-have-the-prospects-to-get-granderson-but-will-they-use-them/comment-page-1/#comment-4164 Aisle 424 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:45:03 +0000 http://www.bleachernation.com/?p=4208#comment-4164 Marmol by himself would be an incredibly steep price to pay for a guy who strikes out alot and has declined at the plate each of the last two years. You don't trade a world-class arm with dominant experience on the major league level for a better-than-average (maybe) outfielder. I'm not sold on Vitters and I'm hearing more and more about how he will not be a third baseman at the major league level, so I have no problem parting with him while his value is still extremely high. Vitters plus a major-league ready bat (Fox) and maybe another A level prospect with upside should be enough (and probably more than enough) for someone like Granderson. Anything else is overpaying and we set him up to fail like Juan Pierre coming for 3 high-level pitching prospects. Marmol by himself would be an incredibly steep price to pay for a guy who strikes out alot and has declined at the plate each of the last two years. You don’t trade a world-class arm with dominant experience on the major league level for a better-than-average (maybe) outfielder.

I’m not sold on Vitters and I’m hearing more and more about how he will not be a third baseman at the major league level, so I have no problem parting with him while his value is still extremely high. Vitters plus a major-league ready bat (Fox) and maybe another A level prospect with upside should be enough (and probably more than enough) for someone like Granderson. Anything else is overpaying and we set him up to fail like Juan Pierre coming for 3 high-level pitching prospects.

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