I’d almost forgotten how Diamondback pitching is to the Chicago Cubs’ offense as the Chicago Cubs’ offense is to every other team’s pitching. Kosuke Fukudome blew up (finally), and Geovany Soto tore it up. And the very back-end of the bullpen was once again great.

  • Jeff

    As good as Marmol has been this year, he’s tied for 11th in the NL in saves. Which closer do you leave off the team in favor of Carlos? You can blame this one on the whole team not being able to get to the 8th and 9th innings with leads enough, as good as he has been, saves are going to be the stat that closers are measured by above all others.

    • Ace

      But if a reliever – any reliever – is on pace to destroy the K/9 record (something by which all relievers are judged), and has an ERA around 2, that guy is an All-Star, to me, before the league leader in saves.

      • bric

        If you view the all star game as an award for individual accomplishments then I agree Silva and Marmol both deserve it. If you view it as the way to decide home field advantage in the WS then Marmol definitely should go. I’d put him up against whichever hitters are up from the AL for three outs before most of the pitchers named for the NL roster. Not a big mystery why the AL’s won it for the last 4,000 years.

    • jstraw

      Saves is a stupid stat since closers don’t create save-situations. Is there a POSSE stat? Percentage Of Save Situations Executed? Until there is, Saves is as stupid as wins. How is the guy actually pitching?

      Ace is right.

      • Jeff

        Isn’t that stat called save percentage???

        • jstraw

          Isn’t that a hockey stat?

  • Jeff

    I don’t disagree that Marmol is having a great season and deserves to be an All Star, but which closer do you leave off the team in favor of one from a losing team? KRod, Billy Wagner, Matt Lindstrom, Heath Bell, and Francisco Cordero were all left off the team and are just as, if not more deserving than Marmol. The strikeouts are great, but he’s also got almost twice as many walks as most of the top NL closers. This is simply a matter of too many good players at the same position.

    Besides, Charlie Manuel has gone about putting this team together in a strange way. They only have one catcher, who happens to be from the team directly ahead of Philly in the standings. Omar Infante isn’t an all star by any stretch of the imagination, and the team has two middle relievers. I would have put any one of the those closers on the roster over Arthur Rhodes or Evan Meeks.

    • bric

      I agree. The AL managers never seem to worry about offending other teams or coaches, they pick who they think they can win with. And that’s why they do.

  • Kenny L.

    “Closer” is not a position. Marmol is a relief pitcher and should be judged against all other relief pitchers, not just other “closers.”

    • jstraw

      “Relief pitcher” is just as much a term of art as “closer.”

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