Just a few days after meeting with Chicago Cubs’ management and passing along the message that he would not be accepting a trade this year, Cubs’ third baseman Aramis Ramirez is now strongly hinting that he might accept a trade after all.

“Nobody wants me, man,” Ramirez said after Thursday’s 4-2 loss to the Brewers. “They want good players. If they come to me with a trade, we’ll see. But nobody has talked to me about it.”

He added that, “I understand it’s a business. If they’re looking to rebuild, I can’t fit in. So we’ll see.”

Obviously, Ramirez agreeing to accept a trade would be huge news, not only because it represents a stark change in his stance, but also because he could be the most valuable bat available on the trade market. Considering Carlos Beltran netted the Mets a top 35 prospect, feel free to let your imagination wander about what Ramirez could bring in.

It could well be that Ramirez was simply speaking out of frustration about a series sweep and after undoubtedly being hounded by questions about his desire to remain in Chicago. I’m sure there will be much more on this later.

  • CubFan Paul

    he’s worth 2 Top 100 prospects; a top 50 & a 51-100

  • Matt Murton

    This is great news… But what kind of compensation would he bring, draft-wise? Are we talking Type A free agent here?

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      Because of his injury last year (and bad year in general), he actually likely to be only a Type B. Not worth hanging onto him for the compensation, in other words.

  • Michigan Goat

    Flip, flop, flip, flop, I’m sick of this

    • Spencer

      agreed. and it’s going to keep happening until the deadline.

      • Serio

        Agree. Nobody wants me, either man.

  • Jeff

    Maybe Aramis was just trying to push moving off until as close to the deadline as he could. I think ARam is a bigger trade chip than Beltran was. He’s healthier, more consistent, and he can be had for more than two months. Giants gave up top 10 pick from 2 years ago, Cubs should get at least that for the best bat on the market.

  • Ron

    We might have something to keep Ace up at night after all!

  • Jeff

    Just read that Aramis says that no one in Cubs organization has even asked him if he would accept a trade, it’s unbelievable how inept they are.

    • MichiganGoat

      Do you believe him, he has been speaking out of both sides.

      • Jeff

        I don’t believe anyone in the Cubs organization anymore, only what I see on the field and what I hear from Ace L. Hutz, attorney at law and Cubs blogger extraordinaire. Of course I might be crazy, believing a lawyer and all.

        • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

          Allegedly. Gotta use “allegedly” at every turn.

  • Cheryl

    Maybe Aram is seeing what Lee saw when he rejected then agreed to a trade. He’s seeing the beginning of changes and he probably thinks its best to move on.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/deathinthePM Shaun

    he sounds like he’s just sick of the team dismantling every other year and being stuck up in the air on his permanency. If someone kept asking me the same damn questions, I’d start changing the answers.

  • Dude-er

    All signs point to the White Sox trading Carlos Quentin to the Braves. If this deal was to take place, would the Phillies become a little more desperate to find a bat? I feel the Phillies would love Ramirez after getting so so production from Polanco this season. I would even take Polanco back in a trade, along with Worley and first baseman Jonathan Singleton.

    • Jeff

      I’d take Worley and Singleton for anyone on the roster not named Starlin Castro.

  • Toosh

    That would be a nice return.

  • awesome

    I’ve said it before (recently), i believe most of these guys want out of Chicago and away from this Hendry/Quade train wreck.

    • Cheryl

      Sounds that way. They don’t no what’s coming and with Fuku gone they’re probably even more uncertain. There may be trades with Byrd, Pena and Ramirez now. But Ricketts would do them all a favor if he moved on Quade, Hendry and Kenney as soon as possible.

  • chris margetis

    Uh, I’d take Worley straight up for him this second.

  • MontelleW

    We Stinks!

  • die hard

    Hed be more valuable if hit when season counts …..can easily get him out by slow curve first two pitches and then three high hard ones…..word is out….

    • Fishin Phil

      Shhhh!! Don’t tell the other teams. 😉

  • Mike

    It seems to me that the man wants to be a Cub. I get the impression he wants to stay, but he’s hearing daily how the fans and media want him to accept a trade cause it’d be best for this non-performing team to get prospects, so he’s frustrated and ready to say ‘screw it, give em what they want.’ I do see that trading him would net prospects for a rebuilding team, but this club isn’t being run like a rebuilding franchise.

    So with that in mind…he is a type B. Hendry is the GM. The return simply will not be anything that’ll turn the club around. The changes that need to be made are above and around him. Yes, his bat has left something to be desired at important times, but does anyone really think he’s the type of hitter you build around? I don’t. He’s the type that supports, and puts an offense over the hump while another bat or two gets them to it. A type B. Sure that’s why he’d be valuable to a contender, but that’s also why he’d be missed if a solid replacement isn’t found quickly and some other hitter is left to be relied on to carry the club while under a magnifying glass due to the lack of supporting bats.

    Fact is, he’s done all a B can do and earned the right to stay if he wants, and the Cubs have no one to replace him if they do expect to contend in the next few years, as they claim they do. The changes that will actually affect this franchise are in the office and the coaching. Running off ARam won’t do much, except exacerbate the stigma that playing for the Cubs just isn’t worth it.

    At least that’s my concern in trading the guy.

  • TSB

    Over his nine seasons with the Cubs, Aramis has averaged 86 RBI per year without even compensating for his partial seasons due to injury. And yet he doesn’t get any respect form some Cub fans that are willing to unload him for what? Mid level prospects and draft picks? Whose going to knock in 86 next year at third? DeWitt? Baker? Vitters? Come on, keep Aramis here.

    • Mike

      He reportedly wants the option dropped if he’s traded. Whose to say the Cubs can’t sign him next year? Is 34 year old 3B really the centerpiece the Cubs need to build around? With the Beltran trade, the Giants blinked and traded their #2 prospect because they felt they had pitching depth to cover. Ramirez isn’t that far off from Beltran from an impact bat standpoint. I hardly think a mid level prospect will get Ramirez. The fact is the Cubs need to get younger. 86 RBIs is not going to win you anything. You need someone who can get you 100+ and that can come from a free agent pickup the Cubs will need to make to fill the numerous holes they have.

      • TSB

        It sounds so easy, just get a guy that can drive in 100+. Maybe Hendry (or who ever) can tweet the other clubs, text “hey, you got an extra superstar we can have ?”

      • EQ

        I’m getting tired of people saying things like “86 RBI isn’t going to win you anything”. umm, do you understand that baseball is very much a team sport? Ramy is doing his part and has been for almost a decade. No, his 86 RBI isn’t “winning anything” because the rest of the team sucks.. but that 86 RBI is key when the team wins.

        We need the pitching staff to perform better, we need people to learn to get on base, we need a closer that doesn’t keep walking the bases loaded every time.. We need to quit acting like his stats don’t matter, he’s not the reason why we are bad this year, in fact he’s been one of the few bright spots.. maybe we’re 30 games under without him?? So why are we continually picking on one of the 2-3 guys who actually produce on this team?

    • Jeff

      Aramis Ramirez’ season is a microcosm of his situation with the Cubs. He’s producing when it isn’t making a difference in wins and losses. You can keep Aramis for the rest of the year, and next year at a pretty overpaid cost, and you’ll probably see 25 hr 86 rbi’s out of him both years. The problem is the Cubs aren’t competing this year, and unless something crazy happens, next year probably ain’t our year either. He can bring a pretty good group of prospects in return right now, his value will never be higher than it is at the deadline this year. I am also surprised you are really asking who is going to replace his 86 rbi’s. He’s the cleanup hitter, the guy who is supposed to carry the offense, 86 rbi’s won’t cut it. It would be best to invest the Ramirez money in someone who can drive in more than 100 runs. Shooting for mediocrity because you like the guy is exactly the Cubs’ problem, and always has been. Foresight is a valuable thing, it’s time for the Cubs to plan for the future, instead of always worrying about right now.

      • Michigan Goat

        Exactly, 80 RBI’s out of your 4 hitters nothing to get excited about.

        • CubFan Paul

          ..but why not keep his 86RBI and add that 100+ RBI bat this offseason to bat 3rd &another 80plus RBI bat to play 2nd base or Right Field?? dumping Ramy for prospects won’t help that new “100RBI guy next”

          Ramirez was hitting .280-.290 in April & May, granted with no HRs but had he had ‘protection’ in the lineup everyone would be begging to keep him ..Pena & Byrd don’t count as protection batting 3rd and 5th

          The Cubs can compete next year by adding pieces this offseason & by keeping Ramirez’s measley 86RBI

  • miggy80

    Fuck it, I would like to see Aramis stay with the cubs. I could argue but if you don’t know why the cubs need a third baseman you don’t know the history of the cubs.

    • TWC

      Kevin Orieeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

      • miggy80

        Vance Law get your glasses

  • http://None Blinda

    This is another example of shitty Hendry. He hands out no trade clauses like its Obama care

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      Easy now – Ramirez has 10/5 no-trade rights, so whether he has a no-trade clause doesn’t matter. He could veto a trade anyway.

    • http://BleacherNation Bric

      He reminds me more of Bush in his last couple of years as president. No clue what he’s doing, no realistic plan for the future, and full of “Trust me, I’m smarter than you” B.S. phrases like “You’re doing a hell of a job!…”- All we need is one or two more pieces…

      • MontelleW

        While I cannot stand Hendry anymore and believe it’s time for him to move on as well – let’s keep the comments to sports and leave the politics and Bush out of it – There’s more than enough of that in the news every day, and as we all know – politics and religion are always hot-button issues to get people flamed up! – Same goes for the guy above that posted about Obamacare – So let’s stick to what unites us – THE CUBs!

  • Toosh

    Ramirez will decide to do whatever he and his agent think will result in him making as much money as possible in 2012 and beyond.

    • Fishin Phil

      Exactly. And I’m fine with that. I was a big fan Ramirez, and I wish him well, but it is time to start moving in another direction. It would be nice if we could get some quality pitching for him.

  • RoughRiider

    I’m sure everyone that reads BN knows that I usually support Hendry. That being said, my sense of the past is that he hasn’t been real good at trading for prospects. That’s on him and the scouts. I really don’t want the Cubs to trade Ramirez because they don’t have anyone to replace his output, they probably wouldn’t get a prospect that would be worth it, and I don’t want to see history repeated and have the Cubs spend 25 plus years looking for a good third baseman. He’s had some injuries in the last couple of years but when he is healthy and has bats around him, he has been very productive with a 100+ RBIs. He’s having his best year, as far as fielding average, of his career.He’s not young but not old either. He has just turned 33. I think it would be a huge mistake in trading him and hope it doesn’t happen.

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