I suppose a sweep was too much to ask, but the Cubs certainly did grave harm to the Cardinals’ playoff hopes in this series.

Also, a good outing from Rodrigo Lopez against this lineup was too much to ask. Just about everyone got in on the fun for the Cardinals, and no one but Aramis Ramirez got into the fun for the Cubs.

  • MichiganGoat

    The painful thing about Lopez is if we throw this fish back we have nothing left in bucket.

  • NL_Cubs

    Every time I see Lopez on the bump, it’s as if the Cubs call up Johnny’s Rent All every 5th day and put in an order from their “Rent-an-Arm” department.

    Need a text book example of a plug-in player? R. Lopez.

  • fire hendry and quade

    i wasnt able to catch the game tonight but i did have it on for about 10 seconds and bobby valentine was ripping starlin castro. what was he talkin about?

    • MichiganGoat

      He wasn’t ripping Castro as much as he was ripping the Cubs (and thereby Q) for not holding him accountable and allowing him to play distracted and unfocused on the field. The play that start itvall was Castro had his back turned to the mind as a pitch was throw, then ESPN cameras zoomed in on him between every pitch and watched him standing still and upright as pitches were thrown. Valentine also mention how on focused Barney was compared to Castro. Basically it was a total slam on the Q and his staff.

      • hardtop

        too bad kirk gibson already has a job… this is exactly the kind of manager the cubs need. especially becasue they will soon go from an old club to a very young club, and we can see how the young kids on this team think. a kirk gibson knuckle sandwich would change things quickly. can you eat suflower seeds with no teeth?

  • mtcubbie

    Just a huntch — but I believe Rodrigo’s ERA after the 5th inning is 114. Maybe if someone else realized this we would have been in the game past then.

  • NL_Cubs

    Yes, the 7th inning, particularly the top half was Bobby V. putting on a clinic on team leadership, accountability, development and lack of discipline. This is what is wrong with the culture throughout the organization.

    The way this lousy coaching staff and “manager” performs at the MLB level probably is a carry over from what goes on in the farm (unless you were a Sandberg student).

    Hopefully Bobby V’s observations will grow legs and come to the attention of Ricketts and the next GM. This sloppy “leadership” and no accountability has got to stop.

  • Vince

    There has to be a pitcher somewhere, someplace in the Cub organization better than the sorry spectacle we saw tonight from Lopez. To throw this guy out there every 5th day is an insult to every Cub fan.

    • MichiganGoat

      Sadly no, we have no one in the minors and Lopez is what we’d get if we’d go looking. It’s sad, very sad.

    • Jeff

      In all honesty, Lopez has done a pretty admirable job aside from a couple of really bad games. It is about time for Coleman, or Jackson even, to assume a rotation spot. We’re down to 6 or 7 starts for the 5th starter anyway, it’s getting time to see what’s there for the future. That is, unless Quade continues to put himself before the organization, and continues to play all the veterans, since he thinks everyone but the Astros are still in contention.

  • BFM

    I was happy to hear Valentine ripping Q.
    He was right to point out Castro’s lapses in focus.
    I think Castro will be a great ballplayer and he is still young and learning the game.
    However, that is no reason to just let him lose focus or not teach him the right way to play the game.

    Valentine did a great job pointing out things that we (at home) don’t see.
    It also makes sense that Valentine, a former manager, sees things like this going on from the press box and Q doesn’t see them from the dugout.
    I think this is just one more reason to get rid of him.
    He leaves in pitchers too long, pulls them too early, makes horrible substitutions, and doesn’t seem to grasp the whole picture!

    Valentine was right by summing it up as a mananger’s job to make sure the players are focused and doing the right thing or it can lead to apathy.

    If Q isn’t doing this simple thing, then why is he in the manager’s chair.
    Time for him to go!

  • Cam

    I thought most of Valentine’s criticisms of Castro were ridiculous. First he assumed Castro wasn’t focused because he was chewing sunflower seeds. Okay…

    Second, he kept harping on Castro holding his glove in his throwing hand until the pitch was thrown. Now, I admit I thought this was a bit odd, but it’s not really proof of anything. Who knows if Castro always does it or if it affects the way he fields? It’s not like he’s always dropping his glove on the ground when the ball is hit.

    Moreover, Valentine was simultaneously comparing Castro to Barney who, in Valentine’s estimation, was ready for each pitch. Problem is, they finally panned to Barney prior to a pitch and he also had his glove in his throwing hand just prior to the pitch. They either didn’t see this or chose to ignore it.

    It seemed like someone trying to sound like a smart guy who had the answers to the Cubs’ issues.

    • Dave

      Castro’s body language was that of a player who isn’t concerned with the game. Maybe it was because the Cubs were determined to lose, but still at least act interested in every pitch.

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      To me, it was less about the glove or the sunflower seeds (though, I know that was what Valentine kept beefing about). It was about Castro having his back to the plate DURING pitches. I cannot believe that was happening, and I highly doubt it was the first time.

      • MichiganGoat

        Exactly, the sunflowers is what the Trib and Sun-Times focused on, but Castro’s BACK WAS TURN TO THE PLATE WHILE A PITCH WAS IN PLAY. I’m not angry at Castro (but very disappointed and concerned) but I’m furious that Quade didn’t see this.

  • Rev Bud Green

    Anyone think Bobby V was trying to put his name in for Q’s job?

    • HotRuta

      I could believe it of him.
      But that doesn’t mean that he isn’t right. This team plays like a bunch of guys that just get together 162 times a year … pretty much a typical Cubs team.

  • Cardfan

    Looks like the honeymoon is officially over.

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      Fire Hendry again!

      • Cardfan

        Fell off my frickin chair on that one!

        • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

          I do what I can.

  • Cheryl

    When does the minor league season officially end? Is there any chance that the manager and coaches from say the AAA team could move up and take over for Q and his squad? I’ve never known it to happen but just wondered if it could?

  • Cheryl

    I asked about the minor league manager moving up because it may be the only way to get some of the callups playing time in September and that manager would have a knowledge of possible players to call up. Plus, there’s no long term commitment. Rhe new GM can hire who he wants.