Mike Quade Sounds Like a Guy Who Knows He’s a Goner

For weeks, Mike Quade has been saying he expects to be back managing the Chicago Cubs in 2012. He’s got a contract for next year, so what else is he supposed to say?

But Quade, for all his failings this year, is not an idiot. He can read. He can deduce. The winds of change are blowing in Chicago, and he won’t be back in 2012. Just read between the lines on the many things Quade said after the final game of the year last night.

“There’s really nothing else you can do,” Quade said about the possibility of the next general manager wanting to make a change at manager. “That’s the only thing I worry about, is guys waiting and not getting a job if things don’t work out. I’ll do everything I can to keep them abreast the best I can.”

To me, that’s Quade’s coded message: I know I’m gone, and so most of my staff will be gone. But, please, don’t drag this thing out so long that none of us can find jobs for next year.

Quade went on about the GM search.

“No anxiety,” he said. “It’s always great when things are cleared up, one way or the other. You look forward to that day. I’m as anxious – I want to see who they’re going to hire and how that’s going to play out. I don’t do all the speculation or listen to the names. I’m more interested in concrete information. No anxiety.”

Who is he trying to convince? Us, or himself?

Of his meeting with Chairman and Owner Tom Ricketts after Jim Hendry was fired, Quade said he simply asked Ricketts to tell him the truth.

“And he did,” Quade said. “That’s all I want. I was able to tell my staff, ‘Look, this is not what we wanted or expected, but it is what it is.’”

Again, to me, that sounds like a guy who got the sense at that meeting that, while Ricketts undoubtedly told Quade that the 2012 decision would be up to the new GM, Ricketts wouldn’t be going to bat for him. And, without Ricketts fighting for Quade, everyone – including Quade – knows that this is the end.

But, hey, if he’s looking for a job, rumors suggest new Miami manager Ozzie Guillen could want Quade to coach third base. Keep those fingers crossed for a Quade-Zambrano-Ramirez reunion in Florida.

Brett Taylor is the editor and lead writer at Bleacher Nation, and can also be found as Bleacher Nation on Twitter and on Facebook.

69 responses to “Mike Quade Sounds Like a Guy Who Knows He’s a Goner”

  1. EQ76

    now if he could just grow some eye brows!

  2. Steve

    The Cubs big three are taking their talents to South Beach. Sorry for the lame Bron-Bron plug. I couldn’t help myself.

  3. Dan0mite

    What would the likelihood be that Quade is retained as third base coach here? He wasn’t terrible at the job and was certainly better the DeJesus. Would it be too weird for him to just go back to that job here?

    1. pfk

      Yes. Way too weird.

  4. MichiganGoat

    He’s headed back to the minor league, TWC had the perfect team but I forgot its name.

    1. TWC

      The low-A Susquehanna Shed-Builders.

      1. MichiganGoat

        I love that team, I want that hat

      2. MichiganGoat

        This came up on a google search for Susquehanna Shed-Builders under clip art

  5. EQ76

    who isn’t terrible at that job.. ?   I could do that!
    3B COACH JOB DESCRIPTION:
    1) either wave them home or send them
    2) let them know how many outs there are
    3) learn the bunt sign

  6. Fishin Phil

     

    He’ll have to fake the beard.

  7. Ryan

    While we’re at it, can we send Soriano to Florida too?

  8. Andrew

    Is it bad that all day I’ve been refreshing the ESPN home page hoping to see a headline saying that Quade is out?

  9. Spencer

    I still think the Cubs should resign Ramirez.

  10. Indy Die Hard

    Ricketts better hurry, scuttlebutt in Philly is that Ryno is going to be promoted to bench coach soon, and if that happens #23 will be gone forever….grooming Ryno to take over for Charlie in 2 years.

    1. CubFan Paul

      hurry? why hurry? Ricketts said no rush as if he’s got all day/offseason

      “It’s like I’ve said all along, we’ll do [the search] quickly and sufficiently as possible,” Ricketts said. “But it’s a big decision. There’s no point in rushing it. You have to have the right guy at the right time. However long it takes, it takes.”

  11. RY

    Finally Quade says something that makes sense. Danomite, no way in hell you keep Qball on as any kind of coach, cut the strings and send him on his freaking way asap! He is now a poison pill; rid ourselves of him period!

  12. jstraw

    “But Quade, for all his failings this year, is not an idiot. He can read. He can deduce.”

    The jokes practically write themselves. Stat sheet? Box score? Scouting report? Facial expressions and body language?

  13. baseballet

    There’s a lot of Quade bashing in Cubland, and there was a lot of Pinella bashing before that. I’m not a big Quade fan, but he’s the least of the Cubs’ problems. Joe Maddon could not have gotten this team even close to 81 wins.

    Sam Zell broke this team and no manager could have fixed it. The Cubs will need to stay young and hungry for a few years before they’re a real contender again.

    1. Deez

      I agree w/ you to some extent. Hendry was the initial pawn to make this team look attractive to any potential buyers then Pinella would the stiff to manage it long enough to make it competitive enough to sell.
      I just hate the fact that it took Ricketts 2 years to realize he needed to cut the line on Hendry.
      We do not regularly develop players who contribute to the organization over a 6 to 10 year period.
      We need to go young & stay young at least for the next 2 seasons. If you’re a true baseball fan, you know this is a young man’s sport (especially w/o all the amphetamines) & if you’re a true Cubs fan you can look at our talent & say give the youth movement a year or two.

      1. EQ76

        Deez, with a top 5 payroll, can’t we do both?? Build up a great organization from the bottom up and spend wisely to compete??  I think it’s possible.  There’s no reason to go totally young if you don’t have enough “young talent” to justify it.  Realistically, maybe only 3-4 of the young position players are actually good enough to start on a MLB team.

        A couple more really good drafts like this year’s and our farm system is probably a top 5 system.  Now that we have an owner that is willing to spend on the draft, we should get there no problem.  An owner willing to do that and field a 130 million dollar MLB team, then a good GM can build a good team to go with that good farm system.

         

  14. RY

    I disagree, you are only talking a 10 game difference; I do believe that quade and his mismanagement cost us at least 7 to 8 games this year, which leaves only 2 or 3 to make up the difference. I do not think you give Joe Maddon enough credit at all; he is one hell of a manager and could have easily made this team a .500 team!

    1. EQ76

      shoot a decent #5 pitcher next year will make up for 5-6 games alone.

    2. baseballet

      RY, it’s absurd to think that a different manager could have netted 10 games. Prince Fielder’s WAR is only +5.6, and you’re saying that Maddon’s WAR is +10?

      The manager can make a little difference but you can’t make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

      1. jstraw

        I want a manager that doesn’t cost games.

  15. EQ76

    10 games may be a stretch, but look at it this way:
    * A manager can be responsible for influencing a team’s win total, probably by around 5 games or so.
    * Marmol blew twice as many saves as he did the previous year.  (10 this year )
    * Horrible stats out of the 4 & 5 pitchers for a bulk of the year.  Worst in the MLB for most of the season.

    Don’t you think a good manager, new culture & attitude, fewer blow saves and average production out of the 4 & 5 pitchers could result in 10-15 more wins?

    1. baseballet

      Yes but now you’re lumping in all sorts of player-related factors. I agree that better players would get us to .500 baseball. I do not agree that a better manager would have gotten us there.

      But my main point I made above is that the anger at Quade is misplaced. By your own admission, at most Quade cost the Cubs five games (and I think 5 is too high considering that gives him the same WAR as Pujols).
      Sam Zell broke this team and Ricketts is just now getting started on fixing it.

  16. die hard

    we owe him one yrs salary if let go….wonder if clause in contract allowing demotion provided at same salary?…if so, I would ask him to stay on as a minor league super scout….he may welcome chance to stay in some capacity and still distance self from this season ..maybe after a year of evaluating our kids, he may be in a position to help us down the road in some other capacity…he knows baseball…just doesnt know how to manage…..shouldnt throw away all that knowledge and experience…

    1. Fishin Phil

      Quade is the last person I want evaluating the kids.  No thanks.

      1. hansman1982

        and its so sad, for how long he spent in the minors you think he would value youth

    2. MichiganGoat

      Yeah that makes sense since Q was SOOOO good at evaluating and developing talent this year. Outside of his NAMBLA love affair with Campy he did the kids no help this year. You sure you aren’t Campana?

    3. Jim

      He can’t be getting too much to be worried about cutting him loose from the organization. Hell, a competent team next season will bring back the fans and the Cubs will make the money back in hot dog sales.

  17. SirCub

    I think Quade knew that he wouldn’t be allowed to return when they weren’t able to catch the Pirates. That was a huge blow to what he was trying to accomplish with this team.

    1. jstraw

      I hope you’re being wry.

      1. SirCub

        I prefer whole wheat.

  18. BFM

    I don’t get it.
    How does he knows he’s a goner and he doesn’t know enough to pull Marmol in a one run game after he loads the bases.

    Head scratcher!!!

    1. Jeff

      The same reason he let Pujols beat the team on multiple occasions.  He’s a moron, and anything he says you have to take with a grain of salt because he’s pulling it out of his ass.  He’ probably listening to Dempster and Ramirez who have been telling him how wonderful a manager he is all year, so sure, he thinks he’s got this locked up.

  19. die hard

    He was portrayed in Billy Ball….

  20. ty

    only a cub fan resorts to hot stove league conversation by the end of May. sad but true

  21. jim

    IF the CUBS let QUADE “stay” as Mgr, they
    are MORONS! LOOK at our starting Pitching!
    The CUBS DON’T even have a “legitimate”
    # 1 Pitcher! THEY”must” get at least 1 number
    1Pitcher! ZAMBRANO is gone! JEFF (NOTRE DAME!)
    SAMARDJIA is NOT a Starting Pitcher! GARZA definitely
    stays. DEMPSTER IS (I AM SORRY!) NOT all that good
    anymore. WELLS pitched good at the end. And the list
    goes on and on and on! KEEP THE KIDS! Get rid of
    KOYIE (I CAN’T HIT WORTH A s@#t!) HILL!
    TOO much to write on this board. (GOD SAVE US!)

    p.s. GO IRISH! BEAT PURWHO! (that’s PURDUE)

    1. MichiganGoat

      As an IU grad I’m all for bashing Purdue.

      1. Spencer

        whoa whoa whoa. I’m a Purdue alum. Boiler up!!!! I hate Notre Dame. As for IU…it’s not even worth fighting about. Beating IU is like beating up your five year old brother.

  22. ry

    like i said in the beginning, Quade cost a lot of games and he deserves all the bashing that comes his way!

  23. LARRY

    I’d like to personally thank baseballet for causing all the comments about how bad Q is.

     

  24. kingdomusa

    I have watch a ton of Managers get interviewed this week on TV and realize just how far Quade is out of his league in interviews alone compared to the other “Winning” and “Losing” baseball managers. Quade really hurt the cubs organization by giving the rookie callups very little playing time and that why when they were finally inserted into the lineup they didn’t perform as well as all cub fans hoped. The future of the Cubs would have been improved if Ryno was named Manager over quade who only wanted to coach vets. Ryno won every year in the minors with our youth. This was a dumb move by ricketts by not over-ruling Hendry who hired his friends that he could control. If we don’t move fast Ryno will be a Philly for a long time. If Ricketts thinks he has a long time to play the game he is fooling himself & hurting the Cubs even more. The “Big 4″ is going nowhere unless they are released. I like hahn as GM, Gillick or Ng as President, Ryno as Manager with some Cub blood in the dugout…..Larry the Cable Guy sez “GET ER DONE”.

  25. die hard

    would we be bashing Quade if Wells and Cashner played all year; Z and Dempster had decent yrs; Garza had better support: Marmol pitched better; Byrd didnt get hit in face; and Fukudome lived up to expectations?..See, it was Hendry’s team and Quade is scapegoat…Would we be bashing Quade if team played .500 with all of its problems this year? Point is, if we won only10 more games and was .500, wed be hailing Quade as a miracle worker holding team together with all of the foregoing problems…just saying…

  26. Toosh

    Less injuries. Less day games. Better weather. Better luck. More LH hitters.

  27. RY

    we will never know diehard, can only go with the facts we know.

  28. JulioZuleta

    Here’s to not having to put up with his excessive use of ridiculous nick names anymore. I mean if I hear Cassie again in reference to Starlin Castro, I’ll puke.

    1. Fishin Phil

      Yeah, what Julie said!

    2. Jamesjones

      I HATE those nicknames. God. Anytime I would listen to his after game press conferences or read about the nicknames he would spout off, it would make me feel awkward.

      I mean awkward as in watching hardcore porn with your parents awkward.

      Yeah.