Quantcast

The Chicago Cubs have announced, as expected, manager Mike Quade will not be returning to the team in 2012. More on the legacy of Quade later.

For now, the Cubs – under the leadership of Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer – will begin conducting a managerial search (as if it weren’t already under way). This was all to be expected once previous GM Jim Hendry was fired – General Managers (and Presidents) tend to like to hitch their managerial wagon to guys they’ve selected, rather than who happens to be present.

Here’s the official statement from Theo Epstein:

“Jed Hoyer and I had an all-day meeting with Mike last Thursday at Wrigley Field, and Mike and I continued our dialogue with a lengthy phone conversation yesterday after the press conference. Today, I flew to Florida to inform Mike in person that the Cubs have decided not to bring him back as our manager for the 2012 season.

“When I joined the Cubs last week, I knew that Mike had a reputation as an outstanding baseball guy, as a tireless worker, and as a first-rate human being. After spending some time with him this past week, it became apparent to me that Mike’s reputation is well deserved. His passion, knowledge of the game, commitment, and integrity stood out immediately. While Mike is clearly an asset to any organization and any major league staff, Jed and I believe that the Cubs would benefit long-term from bringing in a manager for 2012 who can come in with a clean slate and offer new direction.

“The managerial search process begins immediately. We are looking for someone with whom and around whom we can build a foundation for sustained success. The next manager must have leadership and communication skills; he must place an emphasis on preparation and accountability; he must establish high standards and a winning culture; he must have integrity and an open mind; and he must have managerial or coaching experience at the major league level.

“I want to thank Mike for his nine years of excellent service to the Cubs, and we certainly wish him well in the future.”

On a quick glance, the “must have managerial or coaching experience at the Major League level” requirement seems to rule out a certain Cubs legend. Moreover, Ken Rosenthal just reported that sources tell him the Cardinals have asked for permission to interview Ryne Sandberg for their managerial vacancy. Wouldn’t that be a kick in the crotch? (Not that I’m saying Sandberg is necessarily the man for the Cubs’ job, but…)

As I’ve noted here before in other posts, the names floating around so far for manager are Brewers’ hitting coach Dale Sveum, Red Sox bench coach DeMarlo Hale, Rangers’ pitching coach Mike Maddux, Rays’ bench coach Dave Martinez, and Cubs’ bench coach Pat Listach. There will be many more as things shake out over the next few days.

Here comes the Obsessive New Manager Watch!

  • http://TheoWaiting Cheryl

    Had to be done. Sveum mentioned elsewhere (I think by the Tribune) as a possibility, but he’s already interviewing in Boston. Any idea who the Cubs have on their radar, Brett?

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      Sveum, DeMarlo Hale, Mike Maddux, and Pat Listach (current bench coach) are names I’ve heard. There will be many more.

      • Fishin Phil

        If I had to place a bet today, I’d put my money on DeMarlo Hale.

  • Laura

    There is no *emoticon* for what I’m feeling.

  • kinhin

    Well that week went by fast! :D

  • EQ76

    So I’d tend to say Francona and Brenly have the upperhand.. but who knows??  I mean, did anyone peg Jed Hoyer as a possibility back when Hendry got fired?  We could all be surprised by who we get to manage.

  • Fishin Phil

    SQUEEEEEEEALLLL!!!!!!!

  • Kansas Cubs Fan

    FUCK NOOOOOOOOOO cardinals asked permission to interview Ryne Sandberg!

    BENCH COACH BENCH COACH BENCH COACH!!!!!!!

    • http://www.michigangoat.blogspot.com MichiganGoat

      THE HORROR, THE HORROR

  • Aaron

    And now the Cards have asked for permission to speak with Sandberg… Oh boy.

  • jerry

    now i’m a happy happy boy!!!!!

  • Hawkeye

    Tito at the helm with Sandberg as a bench coach.  

    Also, Levines chat yesterday had a couple of interesting questions posted in it.   One asking about the need to move Sorinao to which Bruce replied something about the Yankees, Red Sox, and Orioles as possible destinations.  Another question asked about bringing Nick Markakis over from the Orioles to fill the void in right field.   I believe Markakis has 39M over three years remaining.    He looks to be a good defender with high OBP.   What about trading players and tyring to figure out something for the cash difference.   I look to you folks to let me know if this holds water at all.  So, on your marks, get set, let me have it.

    • hansman1982

      I really dont see the Red Sox as a destination in that they have Big Papi as their DH and he is a big time fan fav

      Yankees no as well – they have too many aging vets that need the DH spot

    • http://www.michigangoat.blogspot.com MichiganGoat

      I just don’t see Ryno accepting a bench coach job with the Cubs. The new manager will be selected in hopes he will there for 10+ years and Ryno wants his shot now. I could see him as the Phillies bench coach with the plan to take over once Charlie retires.

      He’s either the head coach for the Cubs or nothing.

  • M12_Jazz

    sick at the thought of sandberg in a cards jersey

    • EQ76

      So if the Cards get Sandberg, should we then sign Pujols to get back at them?  ;)

      • Tim Morgan

        We’ll get Pujols on his way down, they’ll get Sandberg on his way up. Worst case scenario, IMHO.

    • http://cubbiescrib.com Luke

      I can’t see the Cardinals going outside their own organization for a rookie manager with no major league coaching experience. Do you really want to put an inexperienced guy at the helm of a World Series team? I’m not so sure the Cards would do that.

      I could absolutely see them hiring Sandberg into a different roll, but I’m not sure manager makes a whole lot of sense for them.

      • johnbres2

        you are right.

  • jerry

    it does sound like ryno isn’t the one they have their eye , so i wonder who it will be. any ideas brett

    • Aaron

      I saw Francona as a more viable option for them. I don’t know if Sandberg would take that job knowing that there’s a possibility of coming to the Cubs…

  • kernzee

    Interesting that Sandberg does not fit Theo’s criteria of major league managing or coaching experience.

  • Camiata2

    Why am I not the least bit surprised that the shit heads in StL waited until Q-ball was a goner, and Theo announced the next manager will have previous big league coaching experience, to try and sneak it through the news wire that they asked for permission to speak to Ryno about their vacant coaching position?  Makes me loathe that piss hole of a town and the baseball franchise even more.

  • oswego chris

    Loved all of what was said until the part that eliminated Sandberg or another good potential candidate. I gotta think they have someone in mind or they would not have painted themselves into a corner like that. Either way, they have my trust. Everything so far has been handled so professionally…or in other words so Un-Cub like.

    • JasonB

      Agreed – I think the FO handled this the correct way.  They went through the process of getting to know Quade before making this decision.  Kudos to them for a job well done.

    • http://TheoWaiting Cheryl

      Agree with you. They could have just placed a call and said “you’re fired!” They handled it very professionally. And, agree they must have someone in mind. Requirements would probably include someone who is a stickler for doing things right on defense and offense. Also it would have to be someone who has a knack for developing ball players and is not afraid to use AAAA players or minor leaguers and will treat all the players alike. Not surprised that Sandberg was not considered. He’s too much tied into previous decisions – maybe later on. My guess is whoever is picked will either be in their late 40s or 50s.I like Brenley but he probably won’t be on their radar.

  • http://www.michigangoat.blogspot.com MichiganGoat

    Everyone who has a brain knew this would happen, I was shocked how many people were actually afraid that Q would back.

    • hansman1982

      Theo said it in his presser and I think his farewell letter

      A GM needs to bond with the manager…

      Quade was Hendry’s mate, not Epstein’s

  • NL_Cubs

    If Sandberg goes to Cards…GAME ON!

  • Deez

    The “first-rate human being” comment is always the Kiss o’ Death
    That’s all I needed to see.
    I knew he was gone…
    “Just like that!”
    Now, this is the Best move the Cubs have made so far.

  • johnbres2

    I wouldn’t care if Sandberg took Cardinals’ job. I hate to say it, but if Theo doesn’t want him, that makes me think he is not going to work out. Let the Cardinals have him! Sandberg is a hall of famer and Cub legend, but who would you rather have managing the Cardinals: LaRussa or Sandberg? No further questions.

  • johnbres2

    Dan Bernstein just had great comments on radio about not getting sentimental about Sandberg. As he said, “your beloved history of suck is over.”

    • Fishin Phil

      “your beloved history of suck is over.”

      That would make a damn fine bumper sticker.

    • Lou

      Dan Bernstein is also stating that we don’t know the qualifications of one Robin Ventura, when we clearly know that Reinsdorf and Kenny Williams had an emotional/sentimental attachment to his hiring. Nice cover, Dan Bernstein!!!

      • johnbres2

        Bernstein did not contradict himself. He said nobody knows if Ventura is qualified to be a manager because he never has managed before. Also, he did not say Sandberg is not qualified–his only point is that Cubs fans’ sentimental attachment to Sandberg is completely irrelevant, and that you have to stop thinking in gooey mushy terms like that.

        • Lou

          He did say that Reinsdorf had an emotional attachment to Ventura when Williams hired him. He overrides that point when criticizing Cubs fans. I don’t have a problem with Sandberg not getting the gig of manager because of sentimental reasons. That’s fine. I do have a problem with Bernstein ripping apart the sentiments of baseball for his own personal reasons on separate occasions during his talk show (He stated he has problems with Cubs fans attending Cubs games at Wrigley for the atmosphere. What? Isn’t that part of the allure of going to see a game live?) Bernstein gives White Sox ownership the free pass that he so rips Cubs fans for. Sorry, that’s contradiction and also being a hypocrite.

  • Oswego Chris

    I think the Ryno request by St. Louis is a ploy…he ain’t getting that job, no way, the Cards are either A. just trying to screw with the Cubs or B. competing for one of the same guys and want Cub fans pissed to try to get Theo and the boys to take eye of off their(Cards) real guy….

    • NL_Cubs

      Agree. The Cards have a strong history in hiring good managers and I’m not sure Sandberg would fit their mold. Rivalry posturing written all over this “ploy”.

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      Kind of feels that way.

    • http://cubbiescrib.com Luke

      Sandberg to the Cards makes no sense at all for the Cards, not as a manager anyway.

  • BFM

    How can Sandberg not be an option? What the hell?
    He has been successful at every level he has managed.
    It is a marketing wet dream and on top of that, he has knowledge about many of the young players in the farm system as well as some on the big league squad.
    Sounds like a great fit to me!
    Glad Theo made the right move to ditch Q, but now I also hope he makes the right move to hire Sandberg, which should’ve been done last year!

    • Vinestal

      Because he’s a white Don Baylor?

  • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

    Just a general FYI on these “breaking” type news posts: I tend to keep updating the post over the course of the 30 or so minutes after it’s first written (to get the news out there ASAP), so, to get the complete picture – should you care to – you may want to reread after a little while, if you were among the first to land.

  • Polar Bear

    Where I don’t like the idea of Sandberg as the Cardinals new manager, I have to say that its a bit odd that their info would leak at the time of this announcement. Maybe its their way of trying to force the Cubs into signing him first so they can have their pick at the cream of the crop. Whatever it is, I’m sure that our newly assembled front office has a plan in mind and will not stop until they have the right person. I BELIEVE!!!!!!!

  • NL_Cubs

    “Lovable Losers” is sooooo f’ing dead now.

    Build it boyz! I’m already enjoying the construction work as the dynamic trio continues to bat 1.000 !

    • Aaron

      Not to be a douch, but it’s 1.000. Big difference…

      • NL_Cubs

        Thx. My attention to detail floundered over my excitement of today’s announcement.

    • JasonB

      Sorry to be a grammar / math cop but I’ve already seen this twice before on this site – it’s 1.000 – the decimal goes after the 1.

  • Oswego Chris

    After 16 years of F$%&face LaRussa, Cardinal fans would go ape-shit if they hired Ryno…ain’t happening…bluff….b.s….whatever you want to call it…he may get a coaching job, but no freaking way on manager….

  • johnbres2

    I don’t think Mozeliak is trying to mess with the Cubs. How does this mess with the Cubs? Theo doesn’t care whether the Cards interview Sandberg.

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      It messes with us.

      • hansman1982

        Typical Cardinals – always got to worry about the Cubs, even after a WS championship

      • johnbres2

        I don’t get it. I couldn’t care less if the Cardinals interview Sandberg. The Cubs moving forward are going to be an intelligent organization. All this sentimental hogwash is out the window. Sandberg is a hall of fame player, and I enjoyed “the Sandberg game” as much as anyone in ’84, but listening to the man talk is like watching paint dry. He was an uninspiring, boring, player who basically had no personality. Why is everyone all concerned about him? Cub fans need to forget about all their sentiments and get on board the 21st century jet that just landed in town.

        • hansman1982

          check the records of the Smokies, ICubs, and IronPigs – with the last two check the records before and after his tenure there…

          • Lou

            And exactly how many games did Quade win as a minor league manager? Let your emotional attachment go.

          • http://cubbiescrib.com Luke

            Check the average age of the Iron Pigs under Sandberg. That was a team so loaded with minor league vets and career AAAA guys that had they not won a ton of games, it would have been an embarrassment. That’s not to say that Sandberg is a bad manager, but you can’t just look at his record.

            Remember, Quade had a ton of minor league wins and a championship under his belt. That apparently did not mean he was a good manager.

            • Lou

              So….doesn’t mean Sandberg will be? Not trying to condescend but…I just don’t know.

            • Jeff

              That comment would work except for the matter of how the ICubs played after he departed, and how the Phillies team played the year before he took over.  Quade managed a ton of minor league games, but didn’t have a whole lot of success doing it, and his teams (at least numbers wise), seemed to perform in line with how the Cubs did this year.

              • Lou

                The problem, however, is that we’re talking about the minor leagues here. The skill levels of the players compared to MLB and the egos–WAY DIFFERENT. Not to say Sanderg couldn’t handle it….just don’t know. I’d have more faith in say, Mike Maddux, because he’s been successful on two separate teams. And his pitching staffs have gone to the World Series twice. Far cry from the minor leagues, sorry.

      • Lou

        Why? If Theo that right guy, what does it matter if Sandberg is or is not the Cards hire. If Theo’s the right guy for the job.

        • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

          I agree. I’m saying it messes with Cubs fans who would hate to see Ryno manage the Cards, especially when the Cubs’ job is open. I’m not saying anything about whether I want Ryno (not necessarily) or whether I trust Theo (I do).

          • Lou

            I just think Cubs fans need to be like Theo and take his lead and worry about our team because we…well…gotta a lot work left to do. Don’t worry about the Cards and what they’re doing…because they’ve got lots of potentially big changes coming too….and for that matter the growing pains of life possibly without Puljos.

    • Kansas Cubs Fan

      There probably trying to mess with us the fans.

      They think Theo will fold under the pressure of our bitching and hire him so the can get who ever they want to replace Tony La Douche Bag.

      I was freaking out but have calmed down.

  • hansman1982

    I was initially angered that Sandberg was ruled out but at this point the TJ Monster has my trust 100%

  • greg

    There isn’t anyone in Florida Theo also could’ve been down there to interview, is there?

  • Ian Afterbirth

    Why isn’t Francona’s name coming up more on this page?
    It seems to me that we should be thinking of him as the frontrunner (not as our choice but that he’s currently the most likely choice given the wording of Theo’s press release and his actions thus far as prez).

    • http://TheoWaiting Cheryl

      I can see Francona succeeding LaRussa but not as the cubs manager. Hale may fit what Theo is looking for but with his past ties to Boston I doubt they’d pick anyone from Boston as manager. Rather than a Florida tie, is there anyone on the West Coast that may fit?

    • Lou

      I’d like the thought Mike Maddux coming here, actually.

      • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

        It’s “WAY-TOO-EARLY,” but he’s my favorite in the clubhouse right now.

        • http://cubbiescrib.com Luke

          Agreed. As of now, I’m rooting for Maddux.

  • http://www.calliopevoices.com The Big Mustafa

    Wait…which one was Quade?

Bleacher Nation Privacy Policy and Terms of Use. Bleacher Nation is a private media site, and it is not affiliated in any way with Major League Baseball or the Chicago Cubs. Neither MLB nor the Chicago Cubs have endorsed, supported, directed, or participated in the creation of the content at this site, or in the creation of the site itself. It's just a media site that happens to cover the Chicago Cubs.

Bleacher Nation is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com.

Google+