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The latest in non-Darvish, non-Fielder news and rumors from around baseball…

  • San Diego Padres’ Assistant GM AJ Hinch was asked on MLBN Radio a little bit ago about the rumors of a deal for Matt Garza, in which the Padres would include first base prospect Anthony Rizzo. He said he likes the Padres’ rotation depth, and called the rumor “more far-fetched than most.” Not to be all defensive, but, the idea that Garza would be pitching for the Padres in 2012 is and always has been “far-fetched.” The rumor – and  yesterday’s discussions (about which, I’ve heard nothing more, I’m sorry to say) – never had Garza ending up on the Padres, but instead being spun off to a third team for prospects.
  • To the point: Padres’ GM Josh Byrnes yesterday conceded that, when explaining what the Latos/Alonso/Grandal/etc. trade meant for Rizzo, Byrnes told Rizzo that it may lead to a “trade in the future, because that’s business.”
  • Phil Rogers also noted a third team may be necessary for the Cubs to put together a deal for Rizzo, and suggests the Cubs could include Carlos Marmol in such a deal. That would be just fine with me, as, unlike Garza, Marmol is replaceable internally by the Cubs. But, let’s be clear: Marmol’s value in trade is nowhere near Garza’s. Whether Marmol would be worth Rizzo (however a three-team trade would actually work things out) is debatable. Rizzo is probably more valuable.
  • Jim Bowden yesterday suggested the Cubs could land Rizzo in a package for Matt Garza, which was the primary mainstream discussion of the rumor, which was more fully addressed/reported here at BN. Bruce Levine and Carrie Muskat gave the rumor a cursory look today and late yesterday, respectively. Not much there.
  • Jon Heyman hears from one NL executive that the Padres might, instead of trading Rizzo, try to flip Yonder Alonso. Maybe, though the rationale given was that Alonso can’t play outfield. Byrnes has already said that Alonso will be playing first base.
  • On his Saturday morning ESPN radio appearance, Bruce Levine said the Cubs continue to try and shop Carlos Zambrano, with the Marlins still having at least a passing interest. The name Levine mentioned as a possible return was almost-non-tendered pitcher, Chris Volstad. The 25-year-old righty has never been able to duplicate his impressive rookie half-season in 2008, which preceded three straight meh campaigns. In 2011, Volstad made 29 starts, threw 165.2 innings, and had a 4.89 ERA and 1.425 WHIP while making near the rookie minimum in his final pre-arbitration year. If the Cubs were taking back Volstad – a guy who might not even be worth a roster spot come mid-season – in a deal for Zambrano, it’s possible they wouldn’t have to eat quite as much of Zambrano’s $18 million 2012 salary as previously thought. That’s the sliding scale in a dump deal like that: the more money you save, the less attractive the player(s) you get back.
  • The Cubs are believed to still be talking to Paul Maholm, but there’s nothing new on that front. Like David DeJesus, I kind of have the feeling that the Cubs will wrap this one up relatively quietly.
  • Here’s a column vaguely linking the Washington Nationals to a possible pursuit of Matt Garza, which is the first such connection I’ve heard. In theory, any team looking for a front-line starting pitcher should be talking to the Cubs.
  • The Dodgers signed John Grabow to a minor league deal, because Ned Colletti is Jim Hendry is Ned Colletti is Jim Hendry.
  • The Diamondbacks just signed Jason Kubel to a surprising two-year, $15 million deal. I know Alfonso Soriano isn’t Kubel, but, like, how is it possible that the Cubs can’t find a taker for Soriano at $5 million per year?
  • BD

    I am SO glad the Cubs didn’t end up with Coletti. He would’ve given Grabow a 2yr, 7.5M extension. Wait, that sounds familiar…

  • Toosh

    Like the rumors, don’t like the limited action so far.

    • BD

      Agreed, it is very difficult to wait.

      Is there a certain point when the “Lukewarm Stove” officially becomes the “Hot Stove”??

      • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

        Not here at BN. :)

  • Eric S

    Since I mentioned John Grabow in comparision to Woody’s quest for $4 million per year let’s try it with Soriano. Here’s my proposal; Matt Garza and Soriano maybe with Marmol thrown in to Texas. Texas sends some players and prospects to San Diego and we get a package that is centered around Rizzo. While it’s just speculation and I don’t think there’s any weight to it, just the fact that Grabow’s named was mentioned earlier gives me hope that if I mention Soriano we can dump him soon too. Here’s me keeping my fingers crossed.

  • Jason”Thundermug”

    I still am wondering what is going on with compensation to the Red Sox and the Padres for Theo Epstein, Jed Hoyer and company !!

    I find it hard to move forward on who’s in our minor leagues until compensation gets resolved !

    • Adam H

      They aren’t worried about the compensation right now.

  • MoneyBoy

    Brett – just me, Volstad is a yawner … 3 CG in over 300 starts, basically a 6 inning guy (yeah, that would be okay with this bullpen) and very average overall stats, as you mentioned.   Going into 3 arb yrs might wind up making him even more unattractive given the market.

    Even though neither impresses me – I still think I’d prefer Maholm or Saunders – primarily as LHPs – on short term (2 or 2+ club option) deals.

    Colletti’s signing of Grabow to a minor league deal with an invite is a push.

    I see no real harm in a Rizzo for Marmol deal with the Pads losing Bell.  Don’t know how his contract would factor into that though.   I don’t want to give up a bunch of prospects though.   Rizzo figures to be a better long term fit than LaHair … devil’s in the details as ever.

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      The Padres picked up a closer in Houston Street.

      • MoneyBoy

        Crap – knew that but forgot

  • http://rooftop-view.com Jack Nugent

    Re: your question about Soriano– the fact he’s got a .305 OBP since the start of 2009 might have something to do with the general lack of interest.

    Alfonso Soriano is not good at baseball. I think just about everyone in MLB has come around on this.

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      If memory serves, someone recently compiled a list of the AL DH’s numbers last year, and Soriano’s would have been right in the middle. He should have value at a bare minimum price.

  • jandersonjr81

    Trading Soriano Would be as dumb as trading Zambrano. How are you going to replace his production with the money you save. His value is nothing and he wont bring.back any decent prospects. Might as well keep. We need his power anyway.

    • EQ76

      I’m kinda torn on Soriano and Big Z.. at times Soriano will get hot and belt around 7 HR’s in 11 games. At times Big Z will go 5 straight starts and look un-hittable. Other times, they look like crap.

      Soriano’s bat doesn’t hurt us as much as his defense. You would think some AL team would be interested in a guy who’s gonna hit 25-30 HR’s as a DH. I personally think Soriano will get dealt later in the off season when teams get a bit more desperate. What would be our best scenario is for Soriano to tear it up the 1st half of the season so his value rises a bit and we can deal him at the break.. but that’s me just dreaming.

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      I agree that trading Soriano makes as much sense as trading Zambrano…

  • Dumpman

    In regards to Rizzo and Garza,

    I think at this point it would better if we just let the Darvish saga unfold before we move Garza. The teams that miss out on Darvish will most likely have an increased interest in Garza.

    • Ashley

      I think you are spot on!  I believe that the Cubs will get a ton of offers or at least interest after the Darvish announcement is made tonight.

      • Dumpman

        I’m pretty sure even front offices dont know who won the Darvish bid. I think everyone is just kind of waiting to be honest. After this Darvish thing is settles, I think you’ll start seeing players moved and Fielder signed somewhere.

  • Ashley

    Would love to see the Cubs trade Soriano! Sure he has power but he is so inconsistent hitting. When he is hot he is hot but when he cools off he is an out everytime through the lineup. I am terrified everytime a ball gets hit to left field and he is the laziest base runner I have ever seen. So the sooner we get rid of Soriano the better off we would be.

    As for Garza and Marmol if we can get a great return for them than I say pull the tigger and get it done. I would like to see them used to Rizzo so that we don’t end up spending an arm and a leg for Fielder. I love Garza but if he can bring us a bunch of guys for the future I am willingto let him go.

    I have all the confidence in the world in Theo and company so what ever they decide I will be good with but I just think the sooner we rid ourselves of Zambrano and Soriano the better the club house the and team will be.

  • http://rooftop-view.com Jack Nugent

    Replacing Soriano’s…. production? A .289 OBP is imminently replaceable.

    The Cubs do not need Soriano. What they need is to figure out a way to lose him.

  • 2much2say

    The average DH makes $7.5 mil so yes Soriano is worth that plus he is not disabled. He can still play the field even if it’s in a platoon/4th outfielder

  • rbreeze

    After the Darvish announcement, then the teams that are in play for player movement will start making their moves.  I think Theo and Jed have a plan A, then a Plan B, then a plan C and maybe even a Plan D depending upon where Darvish goes.  They will give a us a fundamentally better team than we have had in the past couple of years.  But we may not know much until a little after New Years Day.

    As much as I would love to have Fielder in the lineup, I think his best fit is in Texas with a team on the threshold of winning.  He would be the Prince of Chicago if we got him but it may tie up a lot of money that can be used elsewhere.  If Garza, Marmol and Soto and then Soriano and Z slong with a basket of cash for the last two can get us some great major league ready prospects (pitchers and hitters both), then that’s the way i’d like to go.  Out with the old Cubs and in with the new.  I’ll wait a couple more years if I can see great effort and good sound baseball being played every day.

    What i hear about Sveum is that you better be ready to play 9 innings plus everyday and play hard or else.  I wonder if he has a little Bobby Cox in him???  I can’t wait to see the transformation at Wrigley this year.

  • Jannenga

    Are you people serious…………..I don’t think any compensation for Epstien or Hoyer should be allowed untill these 2 idiots do something…………They just Talk………….First they signed a Loser to be manager while they lest the best Option stay in the Phillies Orgnization and now they have signed a Loser has been to play 3rd base while letting a 3b who batted over 300 for the cubs and belted over 25HR’s go to out Rivals and you are talking compensation…………Get Real…….The owner just spent 20 million dollars on a damn Mc Donalds that 20 mil could have been used towards Fielders Contract……….The Cubs could have won in 2012 with just a few Pieces……….Fielder and should have signed Reyes and moved castro to 3rd and signed Burly…….This crap that Epstien is talking will never get a Championship in Chicago………Teams win Series’es with All Stars not young talent…………The Marlins had an All Star at 3b and in the outfield so I don’t wanna hear anyone mention them when they beat the Yankees………..The Facts are Ricketts doesn’t want to put a winner on the field untill the City of Chicago builds him his wrigleyville and it’s not going to happen with a Democrat in the Mayors office,so he should get real………..The Cubs owe us Fans a Championship and we don’t owe them………..so don’t sit on here and act like epstien is doing anything worth wild……….He ha fed you all a lie and you are just lapping it up and I never will but I will be around to tell ya I told ya so when the cubs don’t win shit for atleast 7yrs and epstien will get fired when the front office realised all he did was talk and his plan sucked……….Maybe then the Cubs fans will get smart and get 3 ropes for these losers………

    • The Other Matt

      Yeah I think I’ll trust Theo and Jed to run my favorite sports team over you and your opinions.

    • Martin

      This post is a joke, right?

    • Dumpman

      Burly? Who in green hell is that?

      • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

        Green hell? What in the blue hell is that?

        • http://cubbiekingdom.wordpress.com hansman1982

          Burly is the fat, half bearded Smurf that got kicked out of the village for harassing the girl Smurf…so that is the purple haze hell

          Used to be able to throw a mean knuckle curve, until he found the moose knuckle sandwhiches…never been the same.

          • Bric

            Yeah, it was ugly. Rectum? Damn near killed him.

        • Dumpman

          Dont know. But it probably has something to do with this burly fellow.

    • EQ76

      Jannenga – Spell check dude.. spell check. I used to be an English teacher.. that post deserves a LOT of red ink.

    • Fishin Phil

      Congratulations, you have managed to make die hard sound sane and rational.

      Kudos!

      • MoneyBoy

        @Phil   ROFL    ^5

        @EQ76 … not only spell check – but there IS an edit button which allows one to proof read … umm, that is, IF said person can read/spell in the first place.

        “The Cubs owe us Fans a Championship and we don’t owe them”  ::sigh:: he’s allowed to drive a car, vote, and reproduce.

        “The Cubs could have won in 2012 with just a few Pieces”  No … NOOO …. did I fall asleep and it’s December of 2012?   DAMN    How did the Hawks and Bulls do?

      • Mark

        LOL!!

    • TWC

      Jannenga, I don’t normally say things like this, but DAMN your uninformed belligerence sounds sexy.  PM me for a chat, ‘mkay?

      • Fishin Phil

        This is NOT a dating site!

        • Katie

          Yes, let’s not forget that!

    • http://www.michigangoat.blogspot.com MichiganGoat

      You…….
      Can……..
      Hit…….
      Enter……
      Between……
      Thoughts….. But…. Rambling…. Always goes…. Well her…. I once watched a man talk to a wall…. Why is green worse than blue…. Theo is just a machine Ricky build…. Go Bucs

  • 2much2say

    Abreau is making 9 mil this year. He is older than Soriano and now relagated to a simular role.

  • Martin

    KLaw claimed today that Gio wouldn’t be enough for Martin Perez from Texas. Does Garza have more or less perceived value than Gio?

    • Dumpman

      Slightly more I believe. I would say a bit more but not tons. It all depends on who you ask. People who think Gio has more will say he has more team control and is a lefty. People who say Garza has more will indicate AL East success as well as vast improvement as a pitcher, while kicking dirt on Gio’s control.

      • Martin

        This is what will be difficult. I’ve heard from Cubs’ fans that a (completely speculative) three way trade that would get the Cubs Perez and Rizzo for Garza and Soto would be “giving up Soto for nothing,” which would imply that Garza would be worth Rizzo and Perez. That seems waaaay too high a price for Garza, even as a Cubs fan.

        I have a feeling if Garza is traded, many of the Cubs’ fans who are minor league wonks will be angry, because we have a perception that Garza should get the Cubs 3 top 30 prospects.

        • Hrubes20

          I don’t think we would have to worry about that. Unless Theo and Co. are getting blown away with an offer, I don’t think Garza goes. That is probably why people are thinking we could get 2 top 50 prospects for Garza.

        • Adam H

          Garza SHOULD get the cubs 3-4 top prospects + ml player. Look at what we gave to him for a base of what we should get for him. And he just had the best year of his career.

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      I say slightly less, given their respective contract situations. The Perez point, though, I believe, is more about the Rangers not being willing to move Perez in a deal for anyone.

      • Martin

        So given the teams out there (Texas and SD, specifically, with a possibility of the other non-winners of the Darvish Derby), what’s a reasonable expectation for Garza?

        Rizzo and Headley?
        Profar? Olt and Erlin?
        Banuelos?

        Does Garza get the Cubs multiple top 100 prospects? Multiple top 50 prospects?

        I imagine that they’d want high minor league prospects, as the bulk of the quality in their system is AA or below. Does that then reduce the amount of prospects they’ll receive? This process seems significantly more complicated than “let’s trade for minor leaguers!” or “keep our stud pitchers!”

        (BTW-it should be noted that we should all be thankful for Ned Coletti, who acts as a perpetual reminder of what our offseason could have looked like with another year of Jim Hendry. I hope he never gets fired–for that reason and a number of others)

    • Hrubes20

      That is, to put it frankly, absurd. Some think Perez’s ceiling is Gonzalez, and he isn’t close to being there yet.

      I would say Garza has more value than Gonzalez, despite the fact that the A’s have more years of team control with Gonzalez. Garza is just flat out a better pitcher. Gonzo has the shiny ERA of a low end #1/high end #2, but his peripherals and advanced stats tell a little bit different story. He’s only slightly better than the TB version of Garza was.

      • Pat

        It’s pretty close. Garza had the slightly higher career ops+, but Gio has bested Garza’s best seasons (again using ops+) twice in three full seasons.

        • http://cubbiekingdom.wordpress.com hansman1982

          Gio also has a wicked home/road split.

        • Hrubes20

          Except you can’t really use Garza’s stats from his TB years. He has essentially transformed himself as a pitcher. It’s like using Cliff Lee’s first 4 or 5 years as an Indian.

          • Pat

            Well, if we just use last year, Gio still is better, younger, and cheaper.

            You can make a case that Garza has “figured it out”, and will pitch like he did last year into the future but most GMs are going to look at a larger sample.

            • Hrubes20

              Younger and cheaper, no doubt. But he’s not better. It wasn’t even that close in 2011.

              Garza: 2.95 FIP, 3.19 xFIP, 5.0 fWAR, 8.95 K/9, 2.86 BB/9

              Gio: 3.64 FIP, 3.73 xFIP, 3.5 fWAR, 8.57 K/9, 4.05 BB/9

              Gonzalez is a nice arm, but if Garza repeats his 2011 as he is fully capable of, he’s quite a bit better.

              • Pat

                Depends on what stats you pick. According to bWar, Gio was 5.0 and Garza was 2.9. If you look at OPS+, Gio was 130 and Garza was 118. FIP favors Garza, but his own fielding is so atrocious that it would be foolish to ignore.

                As I said above, the difference is minimal. But given youth, cost, and being a lefty, I think Gonzalez is probably a little more valuable to most teams.

                • BetterNews

                  If the difference is minimal, you can dismiss it correct? Garza is the man!

                • ReiCow

                  Pat,

                  I think you mean to say the ERA+ of the the two pitchers for the past season was 118 for Garza and 130 for Gio. OPS+ is an offensive stat (league normalized and park adjusted version of OPS, which is On Base Percentage + Slugging Percentage).

                  Cheers,
                  RC

                  • Pat

                    Aargh! Yes, that is what I meant.

          • Kyle

            One good season doesn’t prove that he’s transformed himself as a pitcher.

            And meanwhile, when the Cubs traded for him, they got three pre-arb years including his cheapest one. The new team gets two, without the cheapest one.

            And it’s not as if the haul we sent Tampa Bay was all *that* impressive. One very good prospect and a couple of decent ones with one or two roster-fill thrown in.

            • Lou

              Fangraphs debates this point. They seemed to contend that he may be due for another solid year because he’s throwing more breaking stuff and getting more whiffs and called third strikes. I don’t know the year Garza had in 2011 may not be a fluke. This doesn’t mean that I wouldn’t consider trading him, though. Here’s that article:http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/how-good-is-matt-garza/

            • Hrubes20

              You’re only looking at results. Look at HOW he got those results. 20% less FB usage. 12-13% more slider usage. 7% more changeup usage. This almost always equates to more GB’s and more K’s. Further, there isn’t anything in Garza’s peripherals that would suggest he couldn’t replicate his 2011 other than a slightly lower HR rate than usual. That could be offset by his “unlucky” BABIP and LOB%.

  • Lou

    I would like the Tigers to have discussions with the Cubs and Padres about a three-team trade. Garza goes to Detroit, Detroit also gets Headley, we get prospects from Detroit and maybe even Rick Porcello, one or two of prospects we flip to the Padres for Rizzo. Detroit has had preliminary discussions for Headley, so, unlike Texas, it is known they want a player currently on the Pads roster. Detroit, also unlike Texas, is not in the bidding for Darvish.

    • http://cubbiekingdom.wordpress.com hansman1982

      So we get Rizzo for Garza?

  • Dooglass

    Why is it that none of the so-called experts talk about Garza’s playoff wins, when comparing Garza to the other high profile arms available (Gio Gonzales, Latos, Wade). Garza has high pressure playoff experience in the best division in baseball and has won. That’s the Pitcher I want on my team. Olney, Rosenthal, and Heyman talk about him like he’s behind all the pitchers that I mentioned but I know for certain that Gonzales and Latos are unproven and I have no reason to believe that either have the stones to go out and win an Alcs game.

    • BetterNews

      Great point brother!

  • Lou

    We’d get additional Tigers prospects plus I’d take Porcello. If Garza’s traded for Rizzo, do the Padres get the prospects we wanted from the Rangers? Sorry, meant this as reply to Hansman. Tigers have a highly ranked 3b by the name of Nick Castellanos.

    • http://cubbiekingdom.wordpress.com hansman1982

      I think Theo and Co. are going to look to get some pitching prospects over positional.  Currently, our roster is setup to give our “next wave” of prospects time to mature into the big leagues at the positional side but we need a TOR type prospect or two as we don’t really have much.

      • Lou

        Tigers have a ton of SP prospects, though according Jonathan Mayo of MLB.com. http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2011/#list=det

        Not saying we’d get Turner but others possibly….and if they got Garza, unlike the Rangers, their rotation would consist of Verlander, Fister, Garza, Scherzer, and Turner….I think that may (I stress may) make them more like to part with a pitcher like Porcello and a possible pitching prospect. What do we mean by TOR? Just curious.

        • Hrubes20

          TOR = Top of Rotation

        • ShootTheGoat

          I took it as “Top of Rotation” guy….

          Sorry…I was a little late. Dang you auto refresh!!!

  • cubsklm

    If against all odds, the Cubs get the Darvish bid. Why would you trade Garza?

    Garza and Darvish would be a great young SP rotation to build upon.

    Then if you add Prince, all of sudden the off season is looking bright.

    • Dukie11

      I totally agree, if somehow we won Darvish, now you potentially have 2 aces and Demp looks like a very solid 3 and heck Zambrano a pretty decent 4. If you win Darvish and are shelling out that much cash, your window is open and youre on a time frame. I hope we don’t win, he is way too unknown to put in as the centerpiece of our championship run.

  • Frank

    I’m not yet sold on Rizzo–yes, Fielder will cost a ton of money, but at 27, he’s relatively young and a known commodity–a consistent, left-handed, big power bat, who’s not going to give you a lot of defense. But Rizzo is a prospect–maybe a good, or even great prospect, but still a prospect. No one knows what he will eventually become. Will he be as good as Fielder? I don’t know–but he can also flame out like numerous “can’t miss” prospects before him. And Fielder will still only be in his late 20s, early 30s, when the Cubs are contending again–if all goes according to plan.

    • Dukie11

      You have to think based on contracts. Is Fielder a known commodity for 10 years and superstar money? No. Is Rizzo a known commodity…no. However, you have to do some gambling. Getting a strong farm system has to be the key. I am tired of watching the Cubs sign high priced free agents and forcing kids to fit into the other positions. Lets set up the kids first, see which of them work out and then throw our money at high priced free agents in the positions we need.

  • Die Hard

    Y’all phony

    • http://www.michigangoat.blogspot.com MichiganGoat

      FREE PONY it’s a Festivus Miracle

  • die hard

    you guys are haters

    • http://www.michigangoat.blogspot.com MichiganGoat

      Hot Taters? Yummy

  • JK

    May be the job as GM is not so easy????????? Why are the Who’s still singing?

  • Lou

    According to David Kaplan at Chicago Tribune Live, his sources say that have had discussion with Theo…not pursuing Fielder. Believe is that Boras is using Cubs as leverage with national media. Take it for what it is.

    • BetterNews

      I’ve been “persecuted” for suggesting that! I’ll accept apologies now.

      • Lou

        Nah.

        • Lou

          Your comments were also made before Rizzo became available. Now, it seems that idea has more validity than anything to do with Fielder.

      • http://www.michigangoat.blogspot.com MichiganGoat

        It’s not WHAT you say it’s HOW you have responded to those who disagree with you. That’s why you’ve been “persecuted”

        • BetterNews

          I’ll be quite contrite, those that have disgreed can’t be considered inoccent of the charges I have been “tagged” with! Including Brett. Merry Christmas all!

          • Katie

            I’m not that inoccent…

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      Thanks, Lou. Absolutely could be the case. Could also be that Theo doesn’t want to tip his hand.

      • BetterNews

        Could be Theo has no hand this year.

      • Lou

        Yeah, who knows really? Thanks, Brett.

  • chad

    I feel sorry for all those season ticket holders who will have to dish out mucho $$$’s to watch this product this year.

    • Lou

      Thank God Directv offers a FOXsportsNet package so I don’t have watch if I don’t want to….baseball could very well be meaningless in Chicago by May this season.

    • MoneyBoy

      There are 107 days and 18 1/2 hours until Opening Day … how the hell can you make a comment like “this product” with so many days left on the calendar?   The (re)construction of the roster has just begun.

  • chad

    what reconstruction? soriano is still here with no exit in sight, z is still here and will most likely be here on opening day. we have all this talk and no action. the biggest news to date is we are talking to maholm. yeah these lack of moves will get us to the promiseland. we keep hearing after this move takes place all the dominos will start to fall and that was 50 moves ago all by teams that aren’t from the northside of chicago.

    • BetterNews

      Whats your point Chad? Really.

    • MoneyBoy

      Your title with the Cubs is …. what exactly?

  • chad

    there hasn’t been one move that has made me think we’re going in the right direction-oh, wait thtere haven’t been any moves.

    • BetterNews

      I’m not happy either, not at this point. I have not been happy for 35 years and I will not say more without giving up my age. Yes there are “BIG” questions that nobody “wants” to answer.

    • MoneyBoy

      For the impaired (and Chad) let’s review ….

      October 30 – November 2 — Brad Snyder, John Grabow, Reed Johnson, Rodrigo Lopez, Ramon Ortiz, Carlos Pena, Aramis Ramirez, Robert Coello, Angel Guzman, Jeff Stevens and Scott Moore granted Free Agency.

      November 18 – Caridad, Smit & Montanez removed from 40 man roster.  Jeff Beliveau, Lake, Vitters, and Szczur added.

      November 30 – Signed David DeJesus as FA

      December 8 – Traded Tyler Colvin and DJ LeMahieu to the Colorado Rockies. Received Casey Weathers and Ian Stewart.

      December 11 – Koyie Hill granted Free Agency.

      Other than that – absolutely NOOO moves.   Significant?   I’m not smart enough to know what is and what isn’t significant …

       

      • BetterNews

        Better study more kid.

  • Cubnuts23

    I JUST WANT TO INFORM THOSE OF YOU WHO DON’T KNOW…..RYNE SANDBERG, ANDRE DAWSON AND FERGIE JENKINS ARE ON STUDIO 42 TONIGHT WITH BOB COSTAS ON THE MLB CHANNEL AT 8PM CT! ENJOY!!!

  • http://Bleachernation Ramy16

    If i were to make a trade I would definitely take Alonso over Rizzo! Alonso is already prooven with his call up with the Reds this year… Rizzo’s numbers weren’t soo hot as he was quickly horrible and couldn’t handle big league pitching and actually had brad hawpe playing first? If I am not correct becuz Rizzo couldn’t hit.. His defense is good however, the only way I would trade Garza if we got a good pitcher in return… I feel that Jed and Theo rushed in hurry to trade for Stewart when Betemit could have been had! He’s a free agent and wouldn’t of cost us much and he plays good defense!! I still see the Braves shopping Martin Prado( mark derosa#2 lol) why don’t we trade for him?? So many options available and were pissing them away waiting on fat ass Fielder! We don’t have the money for him and if we do we should use that money for Pitching!!! Keep Pena!! Great defense… Saved Castro’s ass several times last year!!!

    • Dave

      Rizzo has 128 at-bats.  Just for funzies, I looked it up and after 126 ABs in 2010, Aramis was hitting .158.  Does that mean he couldn’t hit major league pitching and wouldn’t have been worth trading for?

  • OHBearCub

    Why is it that so many people are dead set on trading Zambrano and Soriano?
    There is no way in the world we are going to get anything worth having in return. I don’t want Zambrano pitching against the Cubs and I don’t want Soriano hitting homeruns against the cubs. Our pitching rotation is not very good but if you Zambrano out like a babies bath water you lose everytime. I don’t care if he flies off the handle 2 or 3 times each season. Couldn’t care less how many gatorade machines get pummeled. If you dump Soriano then we have nobody at all who can hit long balls. I will bet that Soriano has a good year in 2012 as will Zambrano. A. They both will know that we don’t have a bunch morons running the show any longer and they will have respect for the new management regime. B. They both still have plenty of skill and will with right motivating force keeping them going. C. Nothing is worse for a guy who is used to winning having to play on a team that sucks. D. You only play as good as the people around you. E. Not everyone is a natural born leader just because they have talent. Soriano has the skill and the will if he has a motivation. Quade swept him under the rug and moved him so far down in the lineup he basically said if this is what you think of me then this is all your going to get. Lou got some good seasons out of Soriano when he was the leadoff hitter. He had a purpose in Lou’s lineup. You can’t get these players to bust azz everyday for someone they have no respect for. That’s how losers lose and continue to lose.

    As for Theo and Jed…. I have an idea about these two guys. They are new in town and think they got an 90 ramp on the job. Well I am not buying what they are selling just yet. When Rickett goes out and buys the big guns you expect something to happen. I look at them like I do every new sales guy who shows up working for me. You get about 2 months to show me what you got before you start doing things my way. I am very open to new ideas and believe that I can learn a few things every now and then. But we are coming up on 2 months and I haven’t seen anything that makes me think they are going to be any different from the people I have fired for non performance oh so many times. Maybe Theo can close deals on the last day of the month. I don’t know haven’t seen it done here yet. I don’t much care what he did in Boston because Boston ain’t Chicago. His montra is don’t pay for what a player has done, pay for what you think he is gonna do over the next two or three years. Does he fire himself in 6 months if he falls flat on his face in Chicago or does he go on a PIP and get fired after 8 months and 30 days. I hope Ricketts didn’t just throw this guy the keys to the Bentley and walk back into his mansion on the hill.

    These two miniscule deals are not proving anything. If this is what about $12M a year in new front office staff gets you then Mr. Ricketts you better get in your Austin and run down your Bentley before its gets to far down the road. You may never see it again.

    I for one am sick of all the rumors from people in the media who don’t know anymore than I do about what the hell is going on. I want there jobs because they can write what ever they want without a source and get away with it. I stopped reading the updates because Brett has got to be getting bored to death reporting on absolutely nothing but speculation from a guy in Boston (Cafardo) or what ever his name is that says the Cubs didn’t bid shit for Darvish. If we didn’t bid shit then why did we bid at all. I give Theo enough credit to believe that he put a bit of thought into what all these other guys are thinking. He out masterminded the Jays, Red Sox and Yankee’s most of the time. I doubt he threw in a low ball bid when it’s highest bid takes the prize. He outbid everyone on Dice K by about $8 or $9M. Do these guys think he fell off the back of the turnip truck on the way to the office last week when he sent the sealed envelope in. That’s another crock. The sealed envelope closed bid. It’s big business. Nobody who is a player in the game only gets one swing at it. I’m sure there is a second round and a third before it’s done. It’s big business and that how big business works.

    • BetterNews

      Whoa!

      • 2much2say

        @OHBEARCUB It’s amazing that you would write an essay on a comment posting site. You’ll be lucky if 12 people see it.

        • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

          More than 12 people will see it. Many, many more. Whether they’ll read it all is another thing. The thoughts are appreciated.

          • Bric

            I read it, and it’s amazing. Better than the DaVinci Code. The only change I’d make is maybe starting out with something like “Call me Ishmael…”

        • BetterNews

          Lucky if two people read it. I know, I’m an “ASS”

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