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Travis Wood was absolutely brilliant today, but he gets the loss thanks to no offense and an inning of shaky defense behind him. The only run that scored on Wood came courtesy of a “double” that a healthy Alfonso Soriano probably catches, and a dropped throw to the plate by Koyie Hill.

The bats fell silent, save for a couple hits each by Ian Stewart and Reed Johnson.

Yesterday was a throwback night to 1912, and today was clearly a throwback to 2002.

  • nkniacc

    I think Sori needs to play everyday or be DL’d if your paying that kind of money he has to play otherwise buy him out which the cubs won’t do. I understand why Clevenger didn’t start day game after night game but they really need to let Lahair hit vs some LHP if they want to have any chance at trading him

    • Babe Ruth

      Horrible comment!! Y would they trade lahair? Have you ever thought, that they want baker and Johnson to get some Ab’s, so they could build value to be traded?

      • nkniacc

        I think they want to trade Lahair, Baker and Johnson

  • Leroy K.

    Out of 35 losses 13 of them the Cubs scored 0 or 1 run in….

    • ry34

      Purely pathetic!

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      Holy crap, seriously? That’s almost unbelievable.

    • Leroy K.

      not to add to it but 20 out of the 35 games we have scored 2 runs or less.

      • ry34

        like i have said numerous times, this is by far the worst offense in baseball, such a joke.

        • DocPeterWimsey

          No, the Padres and (particularly) Pirates are worse than the Cubs.  The overall worst offense might actually be Oakland: they are doing worse than even the Pads and Cubs despite having a DH!

          • Joe

            What are you basing this on? RBI’s, runs scored, hits, RISP, etc.?

      • DocPeterWimsey

        Just to provide context, when teams score 1 or 2 runs, they are 64-325.  Yup, that is 0.165 baseball.  So, it’s not like the Cubs are particularly bad about winning games in which they score only 1 or 2 runs; score this little and you lose 5 times for every 1 time you win.

  • @cubsfantroy

    *facepalm*

    Looks like I was right, they didn’t even have a chance to score any runs.

    *sigh*

    I can’t even get upset about it, I just don’t care right now.

  • Jeff

    I bet if the Cubs faced Coleman Shannon, he could do a Barry Zito to this line-up!!

  • calicubsfan007

    I officially hate Hill. Demote him now. He flinched, thats why he dropped the ball. I used to catch, I learned that you are supposed to catch that bloody ball or die trying. Hill did neither there. Hill for MUP (Most Unvaluable Player). Anybody else for Hill being the MUP?

    • ry34

      well said! such an embarassment!

    • Jeff

      If Soriano would have caught the ball, this would be a mute point. The problem wasn’t Hill, not that any starts should be given to him over Clevenger or our other DL’d catchers.

    • Cub Style

      But, he might be the best under 10 fingered player in the MLB!

      • Joe

        Yes, I understand. But what about the under 10 finger people that don’t play baseball? I’ve met several. They don’t get the sympathetic treatment Hill gets just because Hill plays baseball. Just saying.

    • rcleven

      Castillo far surpasses Hill for MUP.

      • Jeff

        which Castillo?

      • Joe

        Yes, which Castillo?

        • rcleven

          The catcher on the DL. Kid is mister pass ball.

  • BluBlud

    My favorite Golfer Won, My favorite NASCAR driver won, was hope the Cubs would give me the Sunday trifecta. Oh well. Maybe next time.

    • ferrets_bueller

      Jimmie Johnson and Tiger Woods? You, sir….no offense…have horrible taste in athletes, haha.

      • Joe

        Ditto that.

    • ry34

      never rely on the cubs to bring you any consistent happiness!

  • @cubsfantroy

    Koyie Hill 5 -31 since re-joining the Cubs. Great pickup on Theos part. No extra base hits, RBIs HRs etc…

    I hope he gets release real soon. I miss Soto and Castillo already.

    • Cubs Dude

      K. Hill = Turd.

      • Diesel

        That’s insulting to turds everywhere

        • Joe

          Turds roll down Hill!(LOL)

          • @cubsfantroy

            lol

          • A.J.

            Hillarious

    • Drew7

      Hill is terrible, but are you really bashing Theo for the pickup? What else do you do when 3 catchers are DL’ed?

      • Joe

        Bring up the next best catcher in the minors behind Lalli?

        • Drew7

          Pretty sure that would be Michael Brenly…

          • Cubs Dude

            Brenly for mayor then..

            • Joe

              Ha!

        • Hansman1982

          Hey I think there is a jv catcher at wrigleyville high that we could sign. Hill being on this roster is not theo’s fault but when you are on your 93rd string catcher it’s good to have someone who knows the staff and field

          • cubmig

            Why not get Bob Brenly to take on some extra work…….?

            • Njriv

              Probably because his knees have metal plates in them or they are probably not even his.

        • http://www.bleachernation.com Luke

          The closet to the majors would be Juan Apodaca, and I believe he’s pretty much a player/coach at this point in his career.

          The next best catching prospect… out ranking Lalli I think… would be Micah Gibbs. Gibbs just came off the DL in Daytona.

          Next up would be Rafael Lopez, I suppose. He was drafted in 2011 and is playing in Peoria.

          Between jumping a guy from Low A and signing Koyie Hill, you may as well flip a coin.

      • @cubsfantroy

        The fact that he traded for him. There had to be some better catchers sitting at home waiting for a call, or some better ones that a team would trade. If they are going to go terrible, why bring in one of the worst?

        • Hansman1982

          Whatever, I guess if you want to stress over a teams 5th choice for catcher than there is no help

        • chirogerg

          Jedstein didn’t really trade for his, they basically bought him for 400K or something

  • Leroy K.

    You want me to play where?

    –Jorge Soler

  • Njriv

    Baez hit a 2-run HR today, so that’s good news.

    • rcleven

      Ball was taged. Hit over the batters eye. 405-414 ft. Made two excellent infield plays and has a cannon for an arm.

  • cubfanincardinalland

    I had no expectations this season, but some things are just getting absurd. You have a couple of guys who give you some hope when they come up to the plate, and one of them has been LaHair, who I will tune in to watch. But he incredibly has 9 at bats this whole stinking week! And this is to get Jeff (no home run) Baker into the lineup. Yet they can’t get Soriano out of the lineup, even when he obviously should be on the DL. LaHair has to be sitting there on the bench saying what the eff to himself. Ridiculous.

  • Hawkeye

    I know this has been discussed but it’s almost like we’re trying to lose. I say almost because I don’t think Theo and Dale, along with the players are attempting to lose but I look at the lineup we through out there and feel this is not the best team we can put out there. I have never felt this way more in any sport or year the 2012 Cubs. It’s really bizarre.

  • Leroy K.

    I just told my wife, I have seen some horrible Cubs teams, and I’m not that old (29), but this is the first time in a long time or possibly ever, that I felt we were going to lose before we even took the field. Pathetic.

    • Joe

      Remember, we’re just trying to beat the Pudres out of the #1 draft pick.

      • Cubs Dude

        I’d settle for the #2 or #3 pick and not have to deal with all of this. Especially when theres not a clear cut #1. But thats just me…

        • Cub Style

          Whitson seems like a clear cut number one to me, but I’m a big fan of his.

        • Joe

          Getting the #1 pick gives the Cubs “leverage” though. Right.

          • Cubs Dude

            you mean negotiating power over the top prospects? i guess they would gain that.

            • Joe

              Yes, that’s exactly what I mean.

              • Cubs Dude

                Ok, makes sense.

      • rcleven

        Don’t forget the Twins are in mix for the number 1.

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Luke

      Were you following the Cubs in ’97?

      As bad as things are now, I don’t think we’ve sunk to quite that level. Not yet, anyway.

      • Leroy K.

        yes but that roster looks much better than this one. I mean we played horrible ball that year, but coming into the season we had picked up Mel Rojas who was supposed to be a great closer we had sandberg, sanchez, orie, grace, brown, glanville, sosa, and then one absolute horrible pitching staff :)

        • Hansman1982

          Think about it. In 15 years we may talk as kindly of lahair, clevenger, Stewart, Barney, wood, and Castro

      • DocPeterWimsey

        Personally, I don’t think that this team is as bad as the ’06 Cubs; they just are a little less lucky.

        • Joe

          Doc, I thought you didn’t believe in luck! Strictly the laws of probability.(LOL)

          • DocPeterWimsey

            I am unaware that there is a difference….. :-)

            • Joe

              My understanding is “luck” is an entity in and of itself, that “defies” the laws of probability.

              • http://www.bleachernation.com Luke

                You are entirely wrong.  We often hide the luck or random chance components in our equations behind fancy labels, but they are always there.

                • Joe

                  Now wait a minute Mr. Luke before saying I am entirely wrong! Let’s suppose you go to the casino with $500.00 dollars. The chances of you leaving with that same $500.00 dollars are slim to none by the laws of probability. However, with luck, you might leave with more!

                  • http://www.bleachernation.com Luke

                    If you really want an explanation of the laws of probability, why luck is not the opposite of probability, and how most good probabilistic calculations account for luck in the equations, I strongly recommend you take a college course or two on the subject, even if you only listen to a few via iTunes U or a similar service.  That is not a discussion best held in the comments section of an Extended Box Score on Bleacher Nation.

                    If that’s not good enough, then I suggest you head over to the Message Boards and create a thread there on the subject.

                    • Joe

                      Don’t need a college course, had enough courses. Maybe you’re one short.

      • Bric

        I was, and I can assure you, this team is much worse. Garza and Dempster are about as effective as Tapani and Trachsel were, Sosa was a more feared hitter than the entire line up is now combined, and they even had a former five star general and veteran of both WWII and Korea (Mark Clark) pitching for them. I’ve been waiting for years for some to bring up the ’97 Cubs so I could throw that little gem in because it was years before Bleacher Nation existed.

        • Joe

          That brings back memories, for sure.

  • Evan

    How much longer until we get that extra year of control over Rizzo?

    • Cubs Dude

      around June 23rd. But do you move him up exactly when they get the extra year, or would that be to obvious?

      • Joe

        Who cares if it’s obvious? It’s a business. How many times has everybody stressed it’s a business, including ball players? you bring him up on that day!

        • Cubs Dude

          I dont give a shit if it’s obvious either. But your screwing your best prospect out of a lot of money, so you may tread softly. But I get your point…

          • Joe

            Cubs Dude—You’re not screwing your best prospect out of anything! If he pans out, which I’m sure he will, he won’t have to ever worry about finances again, and that’s a fact!

            • Cubs Dude

              I get that Joe, but your pushing him back a year for arbitration which in turn will ultimately cost him money (possibly a lot). Even if he turns out to be J. Votto and gets a 200 million dollar deal he could have gotten even more. I am all for that extra year for the Cubs and don’t care thought. But in a way Rizzo is getting screwed out of money and it is plain as day if you bring him up the day you get that extra year of service. But I am good with that, if Theo is.
              Edit, should be Rizzo

              • Joe

                How much more do you need than 200 million? Just sayin.

      • Diesel

        Start him on June 25th.  I will be at that game and would love for him to be with the team.

        • Cubs Dude

          That would be sweet to be at Rizzo’s first game. Good luck with that..

          • Diesel

            He can have his first game whenever.  I just wouldn’t mind seeing him start at first when I am up there.

  • Cheryl

    If only Theo would get the message – play LaHair or you won’t get anything for him in a trade!! Nine at bats in a week is rediculous. Put Soriano on the DH list for his good and the tean’s good. Trade Baker and cut Hill. If you’re out to secure last place in this league tell Sveum to keep doing what he’s doing and you’ll get there. Otherwise you’re going to lose the fans and they may not come back to your new and improved cubs if that’s your goal for next year. I’m going to my first cub game ever and would at least like to have the hope that they’d be competitive.

    • Leroy K.

      the problem is the fans will always continue to come.

    • Hansman1982

      Right now the players that are playing are the ones theo and co want to trade. Lahair, shark, Castro are the only ones who are nearly untouchable either because of cost or that their trade value doesn’t equal their actual value

      • Cheryl

        I hope you’re right.

      • Joe

        I would tend to AGREE with that statement.

  • Patrick G

    What are the chances Rizzo is on the Cubs July 6-8? I will be at one of those games @ Citi Field and that might be the only reason to actually show up instead of selling them. Couldn’t stomach seeing a game like this. Woof!

    • Hansman1982

      Is their anything greater than 100%?

  • Cheryl

    Maybe they won’t. How has the attendance been the last few weeks? My guess is it is down and as this continues it will continue to go down.

    • Hansman1982

      You really think Rizzo is going to make that much of an attendance difference? Magneto those of us who frequent cubs blogs but tithe average fan Rizzo doesn’t mean much. He isn’t Strasburg or prior who were hyped by everyone and their mother

      • Joe

        I would tend to disagree with you(Hansman) on this one. I think Rizzo has been so hyped, rightfully or wrongfully, that the fans will come, as they say.

        • Hansman1982

          Why do you see much of him on espn or MLB network? He is a huge deal to the 20% of cubs fans that Pay close attention but not the average fan

          • Joe

            Well, I think with all the hype, Rizzo’s name has been “ingrained” in the minds of all fans.

      • Hansman1982

        and the day that theo worries about attendance when making roster decisions is the day I want him fired. He was brought in to do the right thing and that is build a solid organization at any cost

  • Leroy K.

    Cubs are at 90% for the year at home and 84% on the road. (5th and 1st) let me see how it’s been for the last couple weeks.

  • JP

    This is way off topic but as a huge Baez fan, where could I get a shirt of the Y u know let me do whatever I want shirts?

  • this old cub 2

    Remember what Jed said recently, “young players are not saviors”. Bring up Rizzo and he wont make enough difference to matter. As someone said the other day, ‘who is there to protect him in the lineup’ if he does hit 500 for a month. Let’s be realistic, there are more holes than ONE in this lineup.

  • Cheryl

    Sorry if I seem to be on a tangent I’m just frustrated with this.

  • supergeek24

    I wish I could see five years in the future

  • supergeek24

    What are the chances Beaz keeps taring it up will we see him next year at some point?

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Luke

      Zero.  He won’t be ready next season.

      • rcleven

        Saw Beaz today. This kid is as good if not better than Castro at short. Is very poised and fluid with better than average range. He is a man among boys in low A ball. Can see him playing at Tennessee by next spring.

        Also was impressed Ken Swab a catcher with Kane County. Better than average catcher that throws lasers to second and is tearing the cover off the ball. Would love to see this kid in our organization.

    • Njriv

      We would probably see him in 2014-2015, I think would be a safe bet.

  • http://It'searly Mike F

    We might as well face it, this is a very bad team right now with the exception of SP which has trade value. At the AAA level there is some talent, and then in A ball and below there is some talent. The minor leagues are shorting of sp and power. So it really isn’t rocket science as to what has to be done.

    I believe the entire roster is for sale as well as some of the minors. There is no choice they have to take it apart. Do I believe they will get enough for Castro to move him? Probably not. Do I believe they trade Garza, not that tough, given what we see in the organization and roster, it would make no sense to pay him 100M and this team will have an incredible uphill road to being competitive in 2013. And since I’ve been watching the Cubs since 1967 at 11, I can, say in terms of talent on the everyday line-up this team is right there with some of the worst Wrigley era teams.

    One final point, as to Sosa I get why they continue to run him out and don’t necessarily blame Theo, I honestly believe despite Ricketts public comments their hands are tied. And obviously Soriano isn’t going to be bought out or retire with 48 M on the table. It is a classic mexican standoff with no better alternative and an owner who despite his public statements is unwilling to eat the 48 M. And to this extent I do blame Tom Ricketts he should have dumped Kenney and completely cleaned house and shouldn’t have bought the team if he didn’t have the money or was unwilling to do what was necessary with the both the minor league and major league roster. I hope Theo wasn’t simply more of the same– namely window dressing.

  • supergeek24

    I figured that. I just like the guy

    • Njriv

      To me Baez is the third baseman of the future and Vitters is someone to be thrown into a package deal.

  • notcubbiewubbie

    hope we don’t give the 1962 Mets a run for their money!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://BleacherNation Ramy16

    I am sorry guys.. It’s hard being a Cub fan.. We go thru this for the next couple of years! I know us die hard Cubs fan will have the last laugh!! Were just going to have to take our knocks now, once we get everything in order.. Our beloved Cubs will the the elite of NL keep our heads up skys the limit and boy do we have a few prospects waiting to help!

    • Toby

      @Ramy16, it truly is frustrating to read comments from fans who fail to realize that the 2012 Cubs were going nowhere. I more or less viewed 2012 as more as a year to move as many of the bigger contracts possible, view what building blocks they do have on the main roster as well as in the minors, and go from there. It was no surprise that the biggest FA signing was DeJesus which he was only given a two year contract which should be around the time when management realistically expects the Cubs to start contending on a regular basis. The end of DeJesus’s contract would also coincide with a revamped minor league system that, potentially, should start producing a pipeline of prospects for either the team or used in trades to fill holes on the team.

  • Jesse

    God..only like 98 days until Da Bears though!

  • Kevin

    The Cubs are stealing from loyal fans by not playing their best players everyday. Wrigley Field lovers are stealing from the Cubs progressing into a contender by showing up to watch the Cubs regardless how bad they play. If you want change STOP buying tickets. What’s more important, having fun and getting drunk watching a shitty team at Wrigley Field or be a responsible fan and stay away so managent gets the point? There are plenty of sports bars around Chicago where you could drink, have a good time, pay less for beers and most importantly boycotting bad baseball.

    • Babe Ruth

      Fair weather fans crack me up lol. Let’s not support the team unless they are doing well!

      • calicubsfan007

        True, its kind of sad

    • art

      maybe Cub fans are staying away. growing up all i heard/read from the Chicago sports media was, April/May kids helped fill the park by ditching school, June, July, and August, out of town vacationers filled the park, September Wrigley started getting empty. and that’s when they were not contending. when they were, more out of town people, Hollywood type came. just saying.

    • Toby

      @Kevin, you do realize if fans boycotted the team then revenues would drop hindering any improvements that the team might want to do.

    • cjdubbya

      So I guess I should call off my trip to Wrigley in August, when I take my niece to her first Cubs game. Thanks for the tip!

  • florida Al

    barry zito,…….cy young…now thats funny i dont care who you are.

  • Cubzfann

    I understand that a near 0-fer everytime is no great showcase, but with the draft soon to be history, that is all the Cubs are doing with Baker, Johnson, and Mather. Trying to put them in high percentage situations to succeed and look good to GMs. The sooner they succeed the sooner they are gone.

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