Dale Sveum Knew What He Was Getting Into and Other Bullets

The Little Girl is sick this morning, The Wife is out of town, so, with some help from The Mom, my attentions are very much divided. I will do my best to keep a normal posting schedule today.

  • I guess if you catch him on an off-day, Dale Sveum doesn’t sound surprised by the Cubs’ overall crumminess this year. ‘‘I’m not naive; I knew what I was getting into,’’ Sveum said. ‘‘I saw what we had. If we didn’t get offense from the corner positions, we’d have trouble scoring runs. [Alfonso] Soriano has been pretty good and [Bryan] LaHair, but we haven’t had much production from the other spots. And scoring runs has been our biggest problem.’’ So … even Sveum could tell, and admits, this was a weak roster from the get-go? I’ve said it before: I highly suspect he was told from the day before he signed that his roster was probably going to be thin for a little while, and that his job was to start changing the culture, to do what was best for the organization long-term when it comes to using certain players in certain roles, and to try and win as many games as possible (in that order).
  • Speaking of the crumminess, Theo Epstein, naturally, isn’t going to say whether he thinks this team is bad. “Organizationally, there are a lot of barometers we’re watching to make sure we’re moving in the right direction,” Epstein said, according to Paul Sullivan. “And we know we’re going to make a lot of mistakes along the way. It’s really important to examine everything you do …. You want to make sure when you make mistakes you’re aware of them and figure out why.” But, it isn’t difficult to read between those lines. In the same article, Sullivan contends that, in addition to rebuilding, one of the Cubs’ goals this year is to avoid setting the franchise record for losses (103). I’m not so sure about that one – if September rolls around, and the choice is losing only 102 games and picking third in the 2013 Draft (and getting less Draft money and international money to spend), or losing 104 and picking first? I’m not saying the Cubs will actively try to lose games, but as far as rooting goes in that scenario? I think Theo would be just fine with the Cubs dropping 104.
  • You know things are getting grim when you start to see multiple iterations of the “hey, there are still reasons to watch the Cubs” articles coming out. The latest comes from Gordon Wittenmyer, who does correctly identify a number reasons to keep watching the Cubs, headlined by the imminent arrival of Anthony Rizzo. Again I’ll say: the weight of expectations placed on this kid is going to be crushing. Try to relax for the first month, ok? And I mean that in either direction, good or bad. We could see Rizzo called up as soon as this weekend, but it might not be until next week.
  • Patrick Mooney with a write-up on Jeff Samardzija, featuring some love from Cubs Assistant GM Randy Bush. “[Samardzija’s] not going to make the same mistakes over and over again,” Bush said. “He’s just going to learn. Physically, he’s got everything you look for to be that kind of guy you can hopefully tee up there for 200 innings a year.”
  • You can win four tickets to a Cubs game and throw out the first pitch, courtesy of a contest being run by ComEd. Just hit up the “Coolest Summer Ever” tab on their Facebook page, and you can enter from there. There are other Chicago-based prizes as well.
  • MLBullets at BCB notes growing discontent in the Boston Red Sox clubhouse … some of which is discontent about the fact that people keep saying there is discontent.

Brett Taylor is the editor and lead writer at Bleacher Nation, and can also be found as Bleacher Nation on Twitter and on Facebook.

105 responses to “Dale Sveum Knew What He Was Getting Into and Other Bullets”

  1. Andrew

    Your capitalization of The Little Girl and The Mom may spark intensive debate not seen since the Summer debacle, which officially started yesterday what do you know.

    1. hansman1982

      Summer officially started on Wednesday.

      (yes I am mentioning this just to be obstinate)

      1. Ash

        Summer started in March here in Chicago, you’re both wrong. (Obstinate pugnaciousness in full effect)

        1. hansman1982

          depends if you mean summer or Summer…

          YA I WENT THERE

    2. MichiganGoat

      For all we know the proper name of Brett’s wife is “The Wife” and the named their daughter as “The Little Girl” and his mother just happens to be “The Mom.” Brett’s family is so progressive.

      1. Ash

        It get’s really weird when we find out that he’s teaching his daughter to call him “The Brett”.

    3. Ogyu

      I hear there’s a new Zooey Deschanel Movie coming out: “The 500 Days of Talking About Whether to Capitalize Summer.”

  2. hansman1982

    I got into quite the Twitter discussion last night about Rizzo’s callup. My thought is July 2 or 3. This is a series in Atlanta and the ICubs will be playing in Memphis then as well (roughly same distance as Des Moines – Chicago). This way it gets Rizzo to the majors on the road so there is one less thing that will distract him once he gets there. Also, he would play 7 games and then get a 4 day break before he has to come to Chicago.

    It is weird that it seems a lot of Cubs fans (I am guilty of this as well) are as excited for his callup as the Nationals and Angels were with Harper and Trout. Chill out folks.

    1. DocPeterWimsey

      Really, the only things we’ve seen comparable to Trout, Harper or Strasburg have been Wood and Prior.  This might be more comparable to when the Cubs called up Mark Grace.  (If I recall, then the Cubs were playing in San Diego at the time.)

      1. TWC

        If Rizzo has a career that matches Mark Grace’s, I will be positively ecstatic.  I mean, Grace had a career WHIP of 1.000!

    2. Norm

      I don’t think it’s weird. “A lot” of Cub fans aren’t really all that informed. They only see the slash line and the HR’s and the Chicago media talking him up…

      1. hansman1982

        I was toying with a lot of words there and wasn’t even satisfied with weird…my initial line was that I chuckle that…

  3. Leroy K

    That is going to be the biggest key Brett. You hit the nail on the head. People are going to have unrealistic expectations of Rizzo. As long as he doesn’t pull a Gary Scott, completely, I will be alright. Let’s wait and see guys.

    1. djriz

      “People have unrealistic expectations of Rizzo”

      Maybe, but……..

      I think the Front Office has higher expectations for Rizzo. Let’s face it, Rizzo is the first ‘impact’ player they brought into the organization. He’s the power bat they want to build around. If he proves unworthy, *Gary Scott* unworthy, it’ll set us back 2 years.

      Not too much pressure on the kid.

      (I would start him at home. He’ll get overwhelming support right off the bat. If they start him on the road and he hits .120, some of the uneducated fans may not be kind).

      1. rcleven

        I would do it the other way around. Start him on the road so there wont be all the Chicago media around. If they bring him up at Wrigley there will more media in the locker room than players.

  4. Gcheezpuff

    The more I think about trades for Demp and Garza, the more I see Demp’s DL stint playing out well for the Cubs. I am not saying they planned putting Demp on the DL, but consider the following: Theo and Jed have two of the top SP trade candidates on the market which is good but you also in competition with yourself. By removing the less valuable option (Demp) you may actually draw bigger interest in Garza, increasing the prospect haul. Once Garza is traded, perferably before Demp makes his first start (proving he is healthy) you can go back to the losing teams you identified in trade negotiations for Garza and offer Demp for the same package they offered for and lost on Garza. I am not saying any team will agree, but by doing this you leverage your starting point at a higher return and working down rather then fielding low offers and working up. I am sure there are holes in this theory, but it is another perspective as to what could happen and how the Cubs could maximize the return on both players.

    1. Spriggs

      I wish I could be as optimistic. I just don’t see how a guy on the DL helps the cause. I would have preferred having two very good hauls for both Dempster and Garza.

      When teams trade prospects for players – like Garza – before the deadline, they are not only trying to make the playoffs, but also in a lot of cases figure to get a leg up in signing the guy longer term. This isn’t really a factor with a guy like Dempster due to his age. So his value is exclusively tied to what he can contribute this year. And being on the DL now, he is going to have to prove himself all over when he comes back. I don’t think one good game is going to do that. I just don’t see this playing out so well…

    2. rcleven

      Gonna have to wait to see who become available before the deadline. A lot of teams presumed to be buyers may become sellers. WSox(Peavy)?

  5. Steve

    Ha! I live in Atlanta and will be there for Rizzo if he ascends from the heavens during that series.
    All Hail Rizzo!

    1. Ogyu

      I think you have to descend from the Heavens. Ascending is from the other place. ;-)

      1. DocPeterWimsey

        heavens, hells: whatever floats your boat……

        1. farmerjon

          Sometimes doc, you just crack me up, I had a stats professor in college with the same sense of humor.

          1. DocPeterWimsey

            It’s well known that people well versed in statistics are 85% wittier than the average person  And as we are the ones keeping the statistics, the world will never ever know otherwise…..

            1. Luke

              This robot(?) speaks the truth.

  6. ichabod

    if randy bush thinks that sharks good for 200+innings, what took so long for them to install him in the rotation? he was part of the old regime was he not? i know other people, other scenarios, but i always thought shark was best suited as a SP. if only they wouldve had him concentrating solely as a SP, and also not used up all his opts so quickly.

    1. rcleven

      Many starters begin their MLB career in the pen.

  7. RoughRiider

    If Rizzo is going to be called up in the near future, A time when the Cubs are away from Wrigley would be a good time. They are away for 3 more days and although there are plenty of Cub fans in Phoenix the crowd expectations would be considerably less than if he was in Chicago. It might be better to wait until July 2nd though.
    The only potential drawback I see for today would be that Phoenix is starting 2 Lefthanders in the series and we all know how well that’s gone for the current roster.

  8. Carew

    Brett, would the Cubs be willing to make a trade for Porcello? He’s still really young but experienced and has had success, not that you didn’t know that…

  9. Idaho Razorback

    Comparing Rizzo’s potential call up to Mark Grace’s is spot on. Also, the highly anticipated call up of Kerry Wood happened while the Cubs were in Montreal. It has been 20 yrars since the summer of Gary Scott. Time flies.

  10. JB88

    Whenever Rizzo is brought up, I’d like to see the Cubs avoid putting too much pressure on him in the batting order. If they put him in at 3 or 4 immediately, I think that would be a mistake. I’d like to see him slotted at 6th or 7th to give him a chance to get acclimated. Anything earlier, I think, is placing undue pressure on the kid.

  11. mudge

    I think you honor Rizzo immediately with a power position. He’ll respond well. Mather, DeJesus, Castro are guys you don’t bat third. Rizzo, Soto, Soriano, LaHair fit the position.

    1. DocPeterWimsey

      There is a good chance that Rizzo will hit well early because: 1) he had a hole in his swing last year; and, 2) that hole seems to be plugged.  MLB pitchers will probably immediately try to test whether that hole has been been plugged.  If it’s really fixed, then Rizzo will hit the ball hard a bit early.

      Now, the teams probably have decent miLB data on Rizzo, but my guess is that they’ll view AAA watertight as a step below MLB watertight.

      One other thing to remember is that Rizzo will basically be replacing Campana and Johnson in the lineup.  Rizzo can disappoint and he’ll still put up better OPS/wOBA/however-the-heck-you-want-to-estimate-real-run-creation than either of those two guys.  If Soto’s BABiP gets back to normal and Barney has actually pulled a Darwin, then that will leave 3rd as the only real hole in the Cubs lineup.

      1. CubFan Paul

        What’s your lineup with Rizzo in it? I think he gets called up in time for the Monday nite game.

        1. Luke

          He’s going to be somewhere in the middle of the order, and I’d not be surprise if he’s hitting third by the end of the season.  I think to start with, though, I’d bat him fifth.

          3 – LaHair
          4 – Soriano
          5 – Rizzo

          1. Jp

            He’ll never bat there. That would make sence batting him to form a L R L. We all know that Sveum likes to bat all his Lefties and righties bunched together so that won’t happen like you say. “sveum Y u know how to properly set a lineup?”

            1. DocPeterWimsey

              I’d actually say that Sveum is (potentially) correct to ignore LR in his lineup order.  The whole paradigm is based around a small fraction of PA sequences: late in close games.  It’s more important to worry about the bigger fraction of PA sequences against starters.

              Now, will it happen that sometimes you’ll get a close game and the other team gets to bring in a lefty to face your 3 lefties in a row?  Sure.  But if it does happen, ask yourself: did batting those 3 lefties in a row keep the game close in the first place?  Also ask, how many games did it contribute to winning as opposed to how many games did it contribute to losing?

              It’s a classic case of penny-wise and pound-foolish, I think.

              1. Jp

                Well Doc I see your point but while we haven’t had that many close games it wouldve been the difference in a win or a loss I’d still like to practice traditional management style winning baseball. I don’t think because we suck this year it’s an excuse to bat everyone at random just because.

                1. DocPeterWimsey

                  I don’t want Sveum to order the batters at random.  I just do not want lefty/right to be the basis of ordering the batters.  I want him to stick the high OBP at the top, using power as a tie-breaker.  I don’t want him to break that order because there might be a 7th inning lefty specialist.

                  1. Jp

                    I think we agree but we’re just saying it different. I’m with you that I want it to be stat based on where each player bats but when it’s negligible I would like to see him go LRL. I believe on numerous occasions this year he has stacked them together with no ryme or reason.

                2. Cyranojoe

                  Huh? I thought we’ve had a ton of close games this year. Didn’t we lose 12 in a row by just 1 run at one point? Does it get closer than that?

                  1. Jp

                    Thank you sir, you may help prove my point for me then, problem is we’ll never know how many of those games we’d have won If Sveum was trying to outsmart himself with setting the lineup. I say outsmart himself because I’d rather think he overthought it versus the alternative and he didn’t think about it at all.

                  2. DocPeterWimsey

                    The Cubs have lost 12 1-run games in a row, which is very different from losing 12 in a row by 1-run. None of those loses were due to Sveum batting lefties consecutively. (Most of those loses should have been by 2+ runs, too: the Cubs were lucky to cut the games so closely given the peripheral stats.)

                    The Cubs are in relatively few close games. Their run-differential is the 2nd lowest in the NL and the 3rd lowest in MLB, which means that the Cubs are getting shellacked routinely.

                    1. Jp

                      So Doc are you saying he shouldn’t occasionally set a lineup like he knows it should be occasionally? I remember when he was batting lahair and Stewart back to back at 5 and 6 for a while. That wouldn’t have been so bad but lahair’s stats indicated he should’ve been hitting higher than 5 and Stewarts clearly have indicated he shouldn’t have been hitting 6. If zambrano was still on the teAm he should be hitting 9th… Except for that would create back to back Lefties again.

                    2. Jp

                      You know what nevermind, I’ll never win this argument no matter how much sence you don’t make. I get it that you’re a big stat guy but this is the one instance where his shooting from the hip managing doesn’t have any statistical support.

                    3. DocPeterWimsey

                      Bunching your OPS and playing for 2/3rd of the innings instead of 1/3rd of the innings has tons of statistical and probabilistic support.  Mind you, lineups do not have a huge effect in any one game: optimal lineups create a couple of wins over the course of a season.

                      The problem is that you are using “old-school” criteria for setting up lineups.  If you look at the teams that win, they pay no attention to such criteria.

  12. Cub Gone Wild

    If I was Rizzo I would do a Harry C. I would have my name spelled backwards on my jersey. Ozzir that way nobody new who the hell I was my first 1/2 season. If I was Rizzo I would go for a name change so Cubs fans think I’m someone else. The pressure on him is going to be unbelievable!!! I pitty the kid. Chicago fans and media are going to make his young life a living hell no matter if he hits the cover off the ball or not. He won’t know what hit him when he gets here. I am sure they are trying to prepare him for it. If I’m Theo, Jed and Dale I tell the media he is off limits A Lot!!! Let the kid play some baseball. That’s his job so let him do it. He’s not a media relations guy. So whomever is the clubhouse manager get that jersey right. OZZIR

    1. Cubbie Blues

      After “I pitty the kid”, I couldn’t help but read the rest of your post with a Mr. T voice.

  13. LWeb23

    I really hope they call Him up on the road. As someone mentioned earlier, July 2 would be good. 7 game road trip, ASG, then back home against the D-Backs.

  14. willis

    I’m all for calling him up on the road. I also think initially he’ll be plugged into the 5 hole (if for anything else, no one else fits there, other than Soto if he’s right).

  15. Beer Baron

    Off topic, and sorry if this was discussed earlier in the week, but I was thinking about Dempster’s injury and something that just seems off. He said he first felt it on June 5th, but then pitched two more games. But the weird thing was that 11 days after he was hurt, the Cubs moved him up one day in the rotation rather than letting him go on his scheduled day. Not gave him an extra day or two to try to let the injury heal, but actually moved him up a day. That just doesn’t seem how you would treat your ace pitcher who you are trying to trade. So either he didn’t tell them about the injury until this week, they misjudged the injury and didn’t think it was as bad as it was, or there is something to this conspiracy/trade theory.

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  17. Ramy16

    I would like to get Martin Prado in any deal with Atlanta… That would solve our 3rd base problem for years to come!

  18. Puttste71

    Anyone else think it is odd that the Cubs are keeping 4 catchers in Iowa and 3 in Chicago?

    1. Luke

      I think Clevenger and Soto are the only two catchers in Chicago.

  19. rcleven

    When Sveum mentions the corners of what does he speak? Infield, Outfield, or both?

    1. GoldFinch


    2. hansman1982

      Most likely both. 3B and RF are black holes in terms of production (DeJesus ranks 20th in RF for wOBA), Soriano is only good for 13th at LF. LaHair has been the only bright spot (currently 4th at 1B) but his numbers have been plummeting in the past few weeks.

      1. GoldFinch

        I don’t know what everyone was expecting out of DeJesus. He has 21 RBI’s which is on pace(maybe slightly below) his career numbers. I don’t see LaHair as a bright spot. Giving off a “little glow” but certainly not bright spot. Why do I say that? Well, he has 13 homers(good) but only 28 RBI’s.(troubling numbers indeed)

        1. Norm

          Stop using RBI’s.

          1. GoldFinch


            1. Norm

              RBI’s depend on players getting on base in front of you. A .200 hitter can have more RBI’s than a .300 hitter. They don’t tell you how good a player is.

              1. GoldFinch

                I agree RBI’s aren’t a complete picture of a player. But you can’t tell me we have not had people on base for LaHair. Our upper part of the line-up has been the most productive by far. LaHairs’ numbers are troubling and Ian Stewart’s even more troubling.

                1. AB

                  Actually the Cubs combined OBP at #2/#3 spots (ahead of where LaHair has had the most at-bats) are among the lowest in the National League

                  1. GoldFinch

                    I was not referring to the rest of the league. I was simply stating the upper part of our line-up is the most productive.(which it is) How did Aramis Ramirez drive in so many runs?

                    1. DocPeterWimsey

                      The issue is how productive the Cubs top 3 are relative to the top 3 of other teams.  That, along with relative power, is the best predictor of the relative number of RBI your cleanup guy will have.

                      ARam had the benefit of a few years with much better OBP in front of him than the Cubs currently have.  (ARam also had really good power and a slight albeit insignificant tendency to hit a little better with men on base.)

                    2. AB

                      “Well, he has 13 homers(good) but only 28 RBI’s.(troubling numbers indeed)”

                      don’t compare LaHair’s RBI totals to the rest of the league if you don’t incorporate information how well the people batting in front of them are doing relative to the rest of the league. If the Cubs #2/#3 are the worst in the league in getting on base, its going to be a pretty strong explanatory variable as to why the #4 hitter would have a low RBI total, if not close to a 1:1 correlation.

                      I can’t believe I even have to type this out and explain it.

                  2. GoldFinch

                    Can’t go by that either. Castro has a low OBP(might be a reason for concern) but he led the league in hits last year, which means he IS getting on base. Statistics can be “manipulated” to make them look like the monster you want it to be!

                    1. Drew7

                      So, a stat that measures how often a guy gets on base is wrong, because it can be manipulated? How?

                    2. TWC

                      Drew, baby, it’s worthless, kid.  You are shouting into the abyss.  Ain’t no “there” there.  Like smackin’ golf balls into the ocean… you might kill a whale, but you’ll never see whitey again.  Ya feel me?  Cool.

                    3. MichiganGoat

                      I’ll second what TWC said its best to ignore that which is illogical. Don’t waste your breath it’s not worth the effort.

                    4. TWC

                      Is THAT what I said?  Sometimes I need a translation device for myself.

                    5. MichiganGoat

                      Na I guess not, but better to ignore the problem in the whale in the ocean if all you have are golf balls I guess.

                2. Luke

                  LaHairs’ number are actually pretty good.  His K% is a little high (31.4%), but other than he’s pretty solid across the board.

                  .391 wOBA and 144 wRC+  are right up there where they should be.  The 11.8% BB% helps offset the higher K% and results in a very nice OBP.

                  1. GoldFinch

                    Again, the stats are”skewed” by the fact he has been basically used against right handed pitching. He has been “groomed” by the Cubs to look better than he is, IMO.(for trade purposes?)

                    1. Cubbie Blues

                      I address your issue with his stats being skewed below.

                    2. Luke

                      Splits against right handed pitching and left handed pitching are publicly available.  It is no secret that LaHair is 3 for 31 against lefties, so that fact will be take into account in any trade discussions.  No front office can hide something that basic to inflate trade value.  They can’t make him look better than he is when all the data is very easily and openly available to anyone who care to go look.

                      Now if they were carefully sitting him against the elite pitchers, you might have an argument.  Tracking a players’ stats against pitchers with an ERA under 2.00, for example, is much tougher than finding the splits against lefties.  But that’s not the case here either.


                    3. DocPeterWimsey

                      In addition to what Luke notes, LaHair’s miLB numbers can be found, too.  A GM worth his salt would find these numbers.

                      Indeed, with the heat chart data they now keep, even shielding guys from great pitching cannot entirely work: GMs should be able to get an idea as to how well a guy can hit types of pitches, and he should have an idea how well his competitors throw those pitches.

                  2. Edwin

                    LaHair’s K% is the second highest in the majors amongst qualified batters. Since 2002, it’s the 9th worst rate amongst qualified hitters. It’s more than a little high. It’s 2.82 standard deviations higher than league average (18.37%)

                    Edit: I’m not saying this hurts LaHair’s value. He’s a good hitter. His walk rate is almost 1 standard deviation above average, and he has good power. He’s being helped out by a .384 BABIP, but he’s still very good. The numbers are what they are, and so far he’s been hitting like one of the better 1st basemen in the league. But his K% is terrible. It’s the second worst in the league. K% isn’t everything, but it’s really hard to be a productive hitter and sustain a K% that high.

                    1. Cubbie Blues

                      His K% is high but so is his BB%. He is 7th amongst 1st basemen and 26th overall which helps make up for that (OBP is also 26th overall).

                    2. GoldFinch

                      I’m not a statistician by any means, but I thought LaHair did have the nickname “La K” coming up. I don’t dislike the guy, but I don’t think he is in future plans.

                      Anyway, thanks for the comment, it cements what I thought to be true.

                    3. TWC

                      “Anyway, thanks for the comment, it cements what I thought to be true.”

                      … whether it’s actually true or not is pretty irrelevant to you, isn’t it?

                3. Cubbie Blues

                  Your right. RBI’s aren’t a complete picture of a player. That is because they aren’t even in the picture. RBI’s are a team stat not an individual one. When most people talk about RBI’s as an individual stat they should actually be looking at SLG% because that is where runs are scored from.

              2. Jonski

                Well if you consider that 5 of his 13 homeruns have came against the Cardinals what he has done against everybody else is kinda below average.I have always seen him as a left handed Ryan Ludwick who has a slightly better batting avg.

                1. GoldFinch

                  Excellent observation! I never even thought about that. That means 39% of LaHairs homers have come off one team. Very interesting, indeed. (and Soriano thinks we’re stupid?)

        2. Cubbie Blues

          RBI’s are a terrible way to gage a players performance. Among 1st baseman this year Lahair is 4th in OBP, 4th is SLG, 3rd in OPS, and 4th in wOBA. I would say that is a pretty good bright spot. Here is the link. http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=1b&stats=

          1. GoldFinch

            Well, I personally, would throw those stats out the window! Why? Because LaHair has been used almost exclusively against right handed pitching which skews the stats you have alluded to, IMO.

            1. Cubbie Blues

              Fine, if you would like to look at going against just RH pitching for the league he is 5th in OBP, 3rd in SLG, 3rd in OPS and 3rd in wOBA. That is comparing him apples to apples vs the other 1st basemen in the league. Here is the link. http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=1b&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=

          2. cubs1967

            becuz driving in runs is not important?

            kosuke is gonna be released; time to go get him and trade dejesus for a huge haul………or wait he of the neg. 5.6 UZR and 0.3 WAR won’t get much but would unload an unnecessary salary. save monies for next year…..or to get worse; whatever the plan is for 2013.

        3. rcleven

          LaHairs numbers will yo yo. in the DWL went into a slump and couldn’t buy a hit then he snaped out of it and finished strong.

        4. rcleven

          If nobody hits or walks (and god knows this team does neither) there will be low RBI numbers. RBI’s are more of a team stat than personal.

      2. Luke

        How would DeJesus rank among CF?

        1. Shawn

          6th in OBP, 17th in SLG, 13th in OPS and 14th in wOBP.

          1. Luke


  20. GoldFinch

    I mean…Golly. That picture of Sveum says it all. He’s as lost as the proverbial needle in the haystack!

    1. Jonski

      Just remember you can’t make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Dale Svuem will be with this team when we win seems to me Terry Francona looked like shit as a manager his first couple of seasons too !

      1. GoldFinch

        Seems to me Sveum and Francona prefer very different salads! We shall see partner. I am just frustrated by Sveums decisions, as many Cub’s fans are.

        1. Jonski

          Well I will say this and then im done Francona had a playoff team so whatever mistakes he made in his first few seasons the team was good enough to overcome .We don’t have that fortune and the way the Cubs are doing it is the right way to go.They have to get premium returns for Garza and Dempster to shorten the rebuilding process.

  21. MichiganGoat

    So according to this thread stats are as real as the unicorn my daughter pretends is in her closet? Huh, I guess it’s time to let Fangraphs and Baseball Reference no this important discovery. Thanks for all the better knowledge.