Former Chicago Cubs Players and the Measure of Regret

This time of year, I find it interesting to look back on the Cubs’ offseason moves – specifically, the guys the Cubs traded away or allowed to leave in free agency – to see how they’ve played out so far. Good move? Bad move? Is there regret?

The Cubs had an active offseason, what with the new men in charge and all, so there are a ton of names to look at. Some have had a good first half of the 2012 season, others have flopped. Let’s consider what has happened, and how much we regret their departures.

Aramis Ramirez

Given the rebuilding nature of the 2012 season, the Cubs elected to go the cheap route at third base with Ian Stewart, rather than resigning Ramirez. Doing so allowed the Cubs to turn Ramirez into Pierce Johnson by way of the supplemental draft pick they netted after the season, but that return could have been considerably more if they’d been able to deal him at the deadline last year. And it’s not like Stewart, who’s now laid up after wrist surgery, blew the doors off the place since arriving.

Ramirez signed a three-year, $36 million deal with the Brewers, which almost certainly would have been a mistake for the Cubs, no matter how well Stewart has performed. After a characteristically slow start, Ramirez rebounded and is hitting .272/.346/.475, which is becoming his new norm as he enters his mid-30s. Fine numbers for a third baseman, but not enough to overcome his declining defense (and the healthy contract he’s playing on). The Cubs would be better with Ramirez, but only a few games better, and only in 2012.

Regret-O-Meter: For the best.

Carlos Pena

Like Ramirez, Pena didn’t fit the direction of the Cubs for 2012, even as adored as he was in the clubhouse (and in my heart). His departure – on a one-year, $7.25 million deal with the Rays – also netted a supplemental first round pick (Paul Blackburn). But the biggest plus his departure brought the Cubs was the ability to give Bryan LaHair a chance, and then a spot for Anthony Rizzo.

And it doesn’t hurt that Pena is hitting just .201/.337/.372 for the Rays.

Regret-O-Meter: Whew.

Carlos Zambrano

You know the story of Carlos Zambrano’s departure: after last strawing his way out the door by walking out on the team in August, the Cubs’ hands were tied, and they dumped him – and a whole lot of cash – on the Marlins. In return, the Cubs took a chance on Chris Volstad, which, to date, has paid off poorly.

For Zambrano’s part, it’s been a mixed bag in Miami. He pitched well to start the year before regressing badly. To date, he’s got a 4.20 ERA (99 ERA+), and a 1.381 WHIP over 17 starts and 100.2 innings. His FIP is 4.43, and his 1.42 K/BB ratio is the worst of his career. He certainly hasn’t been good enough to be missed, considering the headaches and his impending free agency.

So, even if Volstad has been bad …

Regret-O-Meter: Ah. Peace.

Andrew Cashner

After a season lost to twin rotator cuff injuries, Cashner threw out of the bullpen for the Cubs at the very end of the year, and in the Arizona Fall League. And that’s where the Cubs envisioned his future. Fortunately or unfortunately for Cashner (it remains to be seen), the Padres didn’t view him that way, and they were willing to part with top prospect Anthony Rizzo for Cashner (together with a modest prospect on each side). Obviously the Rizzo part has turned out well so far for the Cubs, but how about Cashner? With a farm system barren of high-end starting pitching prospects, was it worth jettisoning Cashner?

We probably don’t know yet, even half-way through the season. The Padres are in the process of converting Cashner back into a starter, and he’s got a 2.53 ERA over his three starts. But you can only nominally call him a starter at this point, because those three “starts” have netted just 10.2 innings. The talent is obviously there. We’ll see about the durability. Hopefully he turns out to be a good one, and so does Rizzo.

Of course, if Rizzo levels off as a good, not great first baseman, and Cashner becomes a capable front-end starter … well …

Regret-O-Meter: Pending.

Tyler Colvin

Needing for a third baseman, the Cubs traded seemingly busted prospect Tyler Colvin (and DJ LeMahieu, too (about whom there isn’t a ton of regret, as he failed to hit in Colorado, and is hitting decently (but not overwhelmingly) in hitter-friendly Colorado Springs right now)) to the Rockies for Ian Stewart and Casey Weathers. Obviously the Cubs’ end of the deal hasn’t turned out too well to date, but how about the Rockies’ half?

.305/.335/.626.

That’s Colvin’s line, so how do you think it turned out? There are caveats, of course. Colvin’s BABIP is an elevated .346. He’s striking out 24% of the time, and walking just 4.5% of the time. His HR/FB % is a probably-unsustainable 21.3%. And it’s just 200 plate appearances.

But, I mean, they’re great numbers. And he’s hitting well off of lefties, too. Even the park-adjusted OPS+ has him at 138. Quite simply, he’s been great. Where would the Cubs have played him? That’s a fair question. But you hate to give up a cheap, mid-20s kid with that kind of power, who subsequently puts up huge numbers.

Regret-O-Meter: Crap on a cracker.

Sean Marshall

In the most-talked-about trade of the offseason and the early season, the Cubs sent to-be-free-agent lefty Sean Marshall to the Reds (who subsequently inked him to a friendly three-year extension) in exchange for Travis Wood (who’s pitched well), Ronald Torreyes (who’s struggled at High A (at a very young age)), and Dave Sappelt (who’s struggled at AAA). The Cubs’ side of the deal has turned out all right so far, based largely on Wood’s progress.

As for Marshall, he’s been quite good, but maybe not as dominant as he was in the last two years with the Cubs. After a failed attempt at taking the closer reigns when Ryan Madsen opened the season on the DL (how ridiculous would the Reds’ bullpen have been if Madsen hadn’t hurt his arm?), Marshall slotted back in as a setup man, and pitched like he usually does. Arguably, he’s been even better, posting the best K-rate, BB-rate, and, thus, K/BB ratio of his career.

If I told you the Cubs could have kept Marshall for about $5.5 million per year for the next three years (after this one), would you have wanted to do it? Keeping in mind that the Cubs might not be competitive next year? And that the Cubs would have gained nothing in trade?

I actually don’t know how I feel. He’s a great setup man, and he’s relatively cheap for what he does, but it still doesn’t feel like a good fit right now for this team.

Regret-O-Meter: A little torn.

Marwin Gonzalez

Gonzalez was surprisingly taken from the Cubs in the Rule 5 Draft, and ultimately landed in Houston, where he hit .261/.292/.348 as a utility infielder with a decent glove. He “injured his foot” in early June, and has been in the minors since, tearing it up at AAA Oklahoma City. He’ll come back up at some point so that the Astros can be sure to keep him. Gonzalez probably would have gotten a shot at some point this year if he’d stayed on the Cubs – perhaps in place of Adrian Cardenas, depending on how he was hitting at Iowa – and the Cubs would probably have liked to have had a utility infield who can actually play shortstop ready to be summoned from the minors. Further, Gonzalez just turned 23 earlier this year. He could actually prove to be a nice player down the road.

But, in the Cubs’ defense, there wasn’t an overwhelming sentiment that Gonzalez was going to be taken in the Rule 5 Draft. After all, he was just 22, and hadn’t ever really hit in the minors, until hitting just a little bit at AA in 2011 (after being promoted mid-season to AAA, he hit just .274/.326/.376).

Regret-O-Meter: Feels more like bad luck than regret.

Ryan Flaherty

Another Rule 5 pick, Flaherty was picked up by the Orioles, and figures to stick with them for the rest of the year (or at least for the time required for them to keep him) as a utility player, despite hitting just .213/.242/.277. He plays all over the field, and he’s cheap. Unlike Gonzalez, there was a belief that, if unprotected, Flaherty would be taken in the Rule 5 Draft. The Cubs elected not to protect him, and, although they won’t be getting him back, I doubt they’re too torn up about it. He wasn’t going to get a shot with the Cubs, so at least he got it somewhere.

Regret-O-Meter: I’m OK. Good luck, Ryan.

Chris Carpenter

The Cubs were theoretically poised to rely on Chris Carpenter as a late-inning reliever in 2012 when he was plucked from them as compensation (together with Aaron Kurcz) in Spring Training. The Red Sox, too, expected him to be a late-inning reliever, but he developed (or, more accurately, started feeling) bone spurs in his elbow, and was shipped off for surgery. He’ll try to make it back at some point later this year.

Regret-O-Meter: Whew.

John Grabow

After he finished out an unbelievably improvident two-year extension last year, the Cubs rightly let John Grabow walk. The best he could do thereafter was a minor league deal with the Dodgers, and he didn’t make the team. He isn’t pitching anywhere right now.

Regret-O-Meter: LOLOMGLOL.

Brett Taylor is the editor and lead writer at Bleacher Nation, and can also be found as Bleacher Nation on Twitter and on Facebook.

83 responses to “Former Chicago Cubs Players and the Measure of Regret”

  1. Julie DiCaro

    Didn’t Cashner go back on the DL right before the ASG?

  2. Alex

    I gotta say it does break my heart every time Aramis hits a walk off for the Brewers. At least it wasn’t against the Cubs.

  3. Edwin

    Losing Aramis Ramirez was tough, but it was the right move to do. The only thing I regret is how he went out. He was one of the better Cubs players of the past decade, but even with another Home Town discount he still would have been too expensive. I still cheer for him though.

    Pretty much the same thing with Zambrano. Zambrano was one of the best Cubs pitchers of all time, it’s too bad he went out like he did.

    The trade I most regret is the Tyler Colvin deal. I didn’t think he would be as good as he’s been, but having him around as a 4th or 5th outfielder wouldn’t be too bad. I think Stewart was just too big of a risk.

    1. ETS

      I wonder what our front office being in flux had to do with not trading him. I’m agreeing with brett that had there been a market we almost certainly would have netted more via trade than sup picks.

    2. Featherstone

      I’m perfectly ok with losing Aramis. Yeah he was great for us when we had him, but he doesnt fit into our plans anymore and we netted a draft pick from his departure. I’m also glad we got a pick for Pena, the more opportunities we give Theo/Jed to draft talent the better.

  4. Travis

    The Colivin trade is the one that really chaps my ass. I have never been a big fan of Stewart, and Quade ruined Colvin’s season last year.

    1. Chad

      Agree 100% – Q-Ball screwed over Colvin. I always thought he had potential to be a starter somwhere and launch 20-25 HRs per year.

      “Where would they play him”……How about right field. If we kept Colvin we would not have had to sign Dejesus.

      1. hansman1982

        The problem is that Colvin is not a starter – he is a 4th outfielder and he is being used as such in Colorado.

        Don’t worry, you will have some scrappy player to fall in love with next year and will have forgotten about Colvin like Fuld.

        1. Cubs Dude

          Sh*t I didn’t know Colvin was considered scrappy too! Now I am really pissed.

  5. ETS

    Colvin loves coors. Last I saw his home/away splits were dramatic.

    1. DocPeterWimsey

      Colvin’s splits are much less dramatically different after a great weekend here in DC. However, it was hot and humid, so the ball was carrying as if it was in Denver. Also, the fact that one series evened his splits shows you how low the sample sizes are.

      1. chirogerg

        I live 30 minutes from Denver, and trust me, it is not usually hot and most certainly not humid. The ball should always carry differently in Denver and DC.

        1. DocPeterWimsey

          Increasing heat and humidity has the same effect on atmospheric resistance as increasing elevation. The air is effectively “thinner” either way.

          1. andrew

            Interesting, I never thought that humid air was thinner than dry air but I guess it makes sense when i think about it considering water weighs less than air per molecule. I guess we get so caught up in how humid air feels muggier we lose sight of the science of it.

            I do wonder how the humidity affects the balls ability to fly though. considering Colorado famously keeps there balls in a humidor to keep them moister. A wet ball isnt hit as far as a dry ball, so if the balls were in this humid environment of DC for long enough, it could have the opposite effect. The statistics would be impossible to track but it would be fascinating to see the net effect. I smell a mythbusters challenge.

            1. DocPeterWimsey

              H20 molecules take up a lot of space given their rather paltry weight of AU=10. Basically, they are nearly as big as the heavier N2 and O2 molecules. There are a couple of other factors involved: PV=nRT and all of that.

              1. 100 Years of Tears

                What is AU=10? Water’s molar mass is about 18.02 g/mol.

                1. Spriggs

                  This is reminding me of one of the many jokes my chemistry teacher told the class.

                  Question: “What is H2 O4″?
                  Answer: “Drinking”

                  1. DocPeterWimsey

                    Curiously, that is never an answer I would provide for “What is Coors for?”

                    (Ouch: I hate ending sentences in prepositions…..)

                2. DocPeterWimsey

                  Atomic units. (Actually, it’s fractional: you get a small proportion of H2 and 09, etc., in there: especially if you live near, say, Chernobyl….)

            2. DocPeterWimsey

              Oh, and soaking the ball makes it heavier, as the water fills up (some) the voids in the ball, and adds to the mass without adding to the volume. It also effects the elastic properties of the ball. So, water has two very different effects in the different places.

              Didn’t Mythbusters show how “humidored” baseballs really travel less far?

              1. andrew

                I believe they did, but they didnt counteract that by increasing the humidity in the air, so as to the net effect of a humid day on the baseball’s trajectory, I’d imagine the jury is still out. i.e. did the humidity in DC actually help the ball go farther for colvin? The heat obviously does help it go farther as it makes the air less dense since number of molecules is inversely proportional to temperature.

                1. andrew

                  perhaps an analysis of a place like florida (notoriously humid) baseball stadiums could help answer this question. Average distance a hitters flyballs traveled in a place like florida vs. more dry climates of a similar altitude, Los Angeles maybe?

                  1. DocPeterWimsey

                    Well, all you have to do is look at the barometric pressure as humidity rises; what it really comes down to is low barometric pressures (from high altitude or humidity) provide less friction, which slows the ball down less. It’s a different cause but same effect as the wind blowing out. If the wind is blowing out at 25 mph, then a ball hit 100 MPH to the outfield is getting only 75 MPH of air resistance instead of 100; conversely, if it is coming in at 25 mph, then it’s like 125 MPH of air resistance. It all comes down to how many molecules the ball is hitting in its flight.

                    1. DocPeterWimsey

                      Oh, and (of course) how massive those molecules are: transfer of momentum is based on velocity x mass, after all.

                    2. Vladimir

                      Please don’t mention barometric pressure. It’s why my shoulder is hurting and why my head is so stiff these days.

    2. Cubbie Blues

      I’m more of a craft beer guy myself, but I guess Coors is better than Coors Lite.

      1. DocPeterWimsey

        And Death is the better option still…..

        1. MichiganGoat

          Amen

  6. Oswego chris

    Way too early to start getting Colvins Hall of Fame bust yet…
    If that’s the only mistake…it’s gonna happen…

  7. Spencer

    Colvin is a bummer. I think the Cubs coulda gotten more for Zambrano. I’m glad he’s not on the team, but he still has value. Volstad sucks obviously, and they didn’t even get much salary relief from trading him to Miami. Was that really the best deal available?

    1. Colin

      Yeah I don’t think we got any salary relief actually when you factor in Volstad 2.5 mil or whatever.

      Still he’s only 25 and appears to be going through some serious mental problems. Players can turn it around as they mature, seen it way too many times to just give up on a guy when we dont need to.

      I saw him pitch really well at Iowa and that stays in my mind.

    2. hansman1982

      Many of the stories around the time made it seem as if it was Miami or bust for Zambrano – add in the fact that Z had virtually no trade value and we didn’t do too bad. Remember, sometime in the next 30 days is when Z has had his meltdowns the past couple of years.

      1. willis

        Z is another trade where the results haven’t been there but was still an ok move in my book. He had to be traded, Ricketts and Hendry drove his name into the ground last year to kill most of if not all of his value. We knew it would be eating a shit load of salary…

        And in return there was a mammoth kid with some pretty good tools. It didn’t work out for Volstad but when that deal went down I couldn’t believe (in a very good way) that’s what was had for Z’s bullcrap.

  8. Colin

    Yeah Colvin should regress at some point it was unfortunate that he just didn’t have a spot on this team or past teams. I suppose this year he could have been playing center the whole time until Rizzo came up but oh well. But past years they couldn’t bench players who made too much money….

    I just realized how ridiculously left handed our lineup would be

    DeJesus
    Castro
    Rizzo
    LaHair
    Colvin
    Clevenger
    Valbuena
    Barney

  9. Terry

    Totally agree about Colvin, he was really good in 2010 then when Quade took over late in 2011 he either didnt play him or batted him 8th againts lefties. Then theo and Jed trade him for a guy they knew had bad wrists.

  10. EQ76

    I appreciate this Brett.. cool to check up on these guys and see where they are.. 1 thing though, how about some standard stat lines for them? avg/hr/rbi -or- W-L records.. I know everyone’s into all the metrics and BABIP, WHIP, FLIP, CHIP & DIP, but would be cool to see the old fashioned stuff too!

    1. Featherstone

      You know when he lists a Triple slash line its lists avg. The three numbers are Avg/On-Base Percentage/Slugging. Average is listed as requested, HR’s are encompassed in the slugging but also extra-base power, and well rbi’s are just a non-sense stat that have nothing to do with individual performance.

      For the pitching side: He lists ERA which is an “old-fashioned” stat, along with WHIP (Walks + Hits/Innings Pitched). The new metrics are just better ways to describe performance and really aren’t all that hard to understand once they are explained.

  11. Tommy

    I’m ok with he Sean Marshall trade. Trading a reliever for a solid starter in the rotation? I’ll do that every time.

    1. Ron Swanson

      Agree. I think over time this trade will look lopsided based purely on Travis Wood.

  12. willis

    The only thing that bothers me about the Colvin-Stewart trade is the Stewart wrist problem, and taking a flyer on that. But even still, the need at 3B was huge and if the kid could have found a way to tap into any of his talent he would have been loved and the deal would have been a good one. Obviously he was terrible then the wrist put him on the shelf. Depending on how much the FO knew about the seriousness of the wrist injury, I probably do that trade again.

    What pisses me off more though is that if Colvin would have stuck around, then we wouldn’t be dealing witrh Campana, who is awful.

  13. J Wilson

    Great article, I love the concept. I’m glad Colvin is hitting somewhere, even if there’s luck involved. I’m also thrilled other clubs have to deal with Ramirez and Zambrano.

  14. Andy

    You only briefly mentioned him but Aaron Kurcz has pitched well in AA this year. 13.2 K/9, 4.47 BB/9 and 3.45 ERA over 44 1/3 IP. I don’t know what his ceiling is expected to be exactly but he’s a guy who I would have liked to have kept.

  15. notcubbiewubbie

    the bottom line is if hendry was still here all these guys would still be here. thank god the ricketts’ fired his sorry ass.

  16. Cubs Dude

    I like the Marshall trade for just Wood alone. The other 2 guys don’t do much for me at all. But I think the Colvin trade was a clear miss. No Colvin is not an all star caliber outfielder, but he does has some value. By all accounts Stewarts wrist had been jacked for a long time. We could be talking to the Dodgers right now about Colvin. But if Theo won every trade what other teams would want to deal with him?? If you’re going to miss this isn’t a bad one to miss on. And nobody wanted any part of Big Z. I think it was pretty clear across mlb he was a psycho, with marginal stuff these days.

    1. Tommy

      Right on – Big Z was addition by subtraction. Didn’t matter what we got in return.

  17. Leroy K.

    You know, I didn’t read the comments and it’s probably been said, but I wonder how much Colvin’s line has to do with him playing in Colorado? Even after the humidor for the balls, it is still a hitters paradise.

    1. Cubs Dude

      His line is better at home. But still very solid on road though.

  18. Cub Gone Wild

    I totally blame Quade for the demise of Tyler Colvin last year. He had talent and he was wasted because Quade was so damned stupid playing Fukudome. He couldn’t get on track sitting on the bench all the time. I don’t blame Colvin at all for last years performance. He needed regular playing time and he got all discumbobulated under the watchful of the stupid ass bald man. God this article brought out the Quade Hate when I read about Colvin.

    The rest of the bunch I don’t miss

  19. Sam

    I find the whole Chris Carpenter compensation thing very funny. Not because I wish bad on him at all. But because of Larry Luccino..

  20. MightyBear

    I will say this, they say you give a trade/transaction two years, then you see who got the better deal. Colvin hit well 2 years ago and then did poorly last year. Cashner and Carpenter are both hurt. I believe Rizzo is the real deal but we’re still not sure. It’s hard to tell with the young kids. As far as Ramirez, Pena, and Zambrano are concerned, the Cubs made the right move regardless of what they do.

  21. Mark

    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo was my reaction when Colvin was shipped out. I didn’t like that deal one bit! However, I don’t think the potential for Ian Stewart has been reached as he’s battled injuries. I do think he’ll hit when he’s healthy…but we’ll have to wait to see it.

  22. Tommy

    I gotta think shipping Colvin out was going to happen regardless because he just didn’t fit into the long term plans of Theo and Jed with his strike out rates, but only they know for sure. We’ll have to wait and see what happens with Ian Stewart post surgery to really know how to rate this trade, and like MightyBear said, more time will tell the whole story. They were both 1st round draft picks, so whatdya gonna do. I don’t think anyone expected Colvin to play as well as he has thus far. If you did, you were certainly in the minority.

  23. Serious Cubs Fan

    Supposedly the Tigers are unwilling to discuss Nick Castellanos in any deal. To be honest I really don’t think Jacob Turner isn’t a blue chip prospect by any means. If we were to deal Garza to the Tigers I would want Castellanos in return

    1. TakingWrigleyToSaoPaulo

      Personally, I would take Turher, Bruce Rondon and may a high upside A baller.

  24. Benny

    I’d be happy just getting Jacob Turner. He will be big league ready soon. He has to be one of the top MLB-Ready pitching prospects.Nick Castellanos is great but if we don’t get him it’s not a big deal. We need to primarily focus on pitchers. Should we trade with Baltimore I’d want to get Zach Britton.

    1. TakingWrigleyToSaoPaulo

      Keith Law has turner as the 37 best prospect in baseball

      1. Mick

        Anyway you could copy, paste, and post KLaw’s Top 50? My Insider ran up and I’m not going to renew. Thanks!

      2. Serious Cubs Fan

        I don’t believe believe Jacob turner will be a star stud pitcher. I think he will just be a good to decent pitcher. His arm doesn’t wow anyone. I really don’t put much into people saying he is major league ready. I would almost rather have a really high upside guy who is a couple years away, so then his arbitration clock won’t get started. If we get turner and we plug him into the rotation we will start that clock and by the time the cubs are ready to compete for a world series again which will probably be in 3 years he will be much more expensive and cost the cubs a lot of money. Turner could be a good pitcher but he is no stud. Just because your ranked #37doesn’t mean you’ll be a star. That ranking is more or less saying, “Ya he’s a good prospect, he will be in the majors for a long time, but he won’t be a star pitcher.” If you notice most major league ready guys who are considered true studs who will be stars are ranked higher.

  25. Benny

    Hope we can somehow get rid of soriano.

  26. Benny

    The cubs should trade Ryan Dempster, Alfonso Soriano and 35 million dollars to Tigers for Jacob Turner. Cubs are better off without Soriano.

  27. Bric

    Colvin was the only really bad decision that was made during the off season which proves that all moves are kind of a gamble. Barometric pressure, the discussion about atomic mass, and the fact that all objects fall to Earth at a speed of 9.8 meters per second squared until they reach terminal velocity doesn’t explain the fact that Wrigley is one of the few places where the wind howls out at 35 MPH sometimes.

    Colvin’s career was screwed over by both Lou and Q and for whatever reason he had to go. And that’s unfortunate. But pease keep all the hate he got here about his strike out rate and holes in his swing in mind when you consider Brett Jackson. I’ve been seeing a lot of bad blood and doubt going Jackson’s way the same as when Colvin was here. So forget the friggin’ 7th grade science for a second, Doc, and others, and ask yourself- would you rather have Colvin right now, or Stewart. It really isn’t rocket science.

    1. DocPeterWimsey

      Actually, the effect of thermal gradients on barometric pressures have everything to do with why winds are so strong next to large bodies of water; after all, wind is, in large part, the atmosphere trying to homogenize barometric pressure.

      But as for Colvin, he’s just a left-handed Jeff Franceour having a lucky streak. I was not and am not sorry to see him off of the Cubs. Corey Patterson had great numbers before the All Star break last year, too…..

  28. aCubsFan

    You forgot to mention that Andrew Cashner is on the DL again only a week after his recall from Double-A, and throwing just 28 pitches in his third major league start of the season. I think he is going to be another of those ‘Kerry Wood’ types that can’t stay off the DL. So, I’d say the Cubs got the better of the deal.

  29. MikeCubs23

    Big week for Cubs as I think this week sets up the deals that are coming.

  30. Lvcubfan

    I think the Marshall trade was exceptional! Travis Wood has been the most effective Cubs starter since coming back from AAA. He has great stuff and is 2 years younger than Marshall. He looks like the real deal as a 4th or 5th guy in the rotation, and Marshall’s set up ability would have been wasted on the Cubs for the next couple of years. Plus we still have 2 more prospects in the system. Torres might be really good in a couple of years.

    1. Cyranojoe

      He didn’t start off that great, you know. But yeah, having Twood locked up for more time than Sean and for cheaper is pretty nice. I agree it was a winning deal for the Cubs, I’m just nitpicking.