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The hits keep on coming.

Matt Garza, the Cubs’ most valuable trade piece by far, will not pitch on Monday – the day before the Trade Deadline – as hoped. Instead, thanks to an MRI that still shows fluid in his right triceps (can’t we stop bs’ing people at this point and just call it a triceps “strain” and not a “cramp”?), he won’t pitch again until late next week at the earliest, Dale Sveum told the media today. Garza suffered the “cramp” last Saturday in St. Louis. He’s been on the DL all of about twice in his career, so the timing of this injury is … unfortunate.

Where this leaves the Cubs if they’d like to trade Garza is anybody’s guess, but it’s certainly fair to guess that the answer is “nowhere good.” Without having pitched in a week and a half, and with “fluid in his triceps,” it’s hard to imagine any team ponying up the kind of return sufficient to convince the Cubs that it’s worth giving up Garza.

Instead, they’re much more likely to hold onto him until the offseason, and revisit trade talks – as well as extension talks – then. There remains a teeny, tiny possibility that he can still be traded – after all, Garza says he feels good, and Sveum apparently described the MRI as “clean” – but, the emphasis is on teeny and tiny.

Deep breaths …

UPDATE: Here’s your tiny consolation. The Cubs (currently) don’t plan to put Garza on the 15-day DL, even though, by the time he returns, he would have missed some 13 or 14 days anyway. The only reason to do that? No, it’s not because you can’t trade a guy on the DL – you can, and that’s sort of beside the point, because whether he’s on the DL or not, teams know his injury. It’s because, if the Cubs DL Garza, a theoretical receiving team couldn’t start Garza until his DL stint is up, which could cost them a Garza start (for example, on Wednesday or Thursday next week). It’s small, but at least it’s a signal that the Cubs haven’t completely given up hope that a team or two might make an acceptable offer by Tuesday. Keep in mind, with Garza, unlike with free-agent-to-be Dempster, not being able to trade him isn’t the worst thing in the world. Yes, he’s got more value now than he’ll have in the offseason, but it’s not like it goes to zero in November.

  • WGNstatic

    ugh

  • Sandberg

    Nobody could have seen this one coming.

    • EvenBetterNewsV2.0

      I wouldn’t go that far.

  • J R

    Well then.. So, he wouldn’t pass a physical if they were to have someone bite right? Would fluid in his tricep make him fail a physical? I just don’t see anyway they could trade him with this going on…

    • spearman

      no, he could pass as long he has flexability( I guess), but no one is going to touch this with a 10 ft. pole.

  • Sosa23

    This keeps looking like no trades are going to get done at all. All because of ryan dumpster unleashing a worst case scenario situation. Horrible week for cubs so far.

    • spearman

      This has a Bartman feel to it . Doesn’t it?
      Steam roll!

      • Sosa23

        yes i does. or a black cat feel..

        • Kurt

          Wow, a1969 Ron Santo reference…or did you know that?

  • North Side Irish

    Remember that day when the Cubs were going to add Randall Delgado and Zach Lee in the same afternoon? That was fun…I’m going to think about that instead.

  • cjdubbya

    I find myself just sitting here laughing at this point, and we’re still 4+ days from the actual trade deadline. Not at the misfortune of the team, mind you, but rather at the sheer ridiculousness of this whole situation.

    Is it possible that the 30 hour blog-a-thon comes up snake eyes? I can see it now…weighing the success of Marisa Miller vs Stacy Keibler from past Series She-Views this season for the 4am post on the 31st.

  • MaxM1908

    It’s just like a bad dream for the Cubs. Everything going so right, and then BAM! Take that you cursed, SOBs! Ridiculous.

    • rcleven

      That’s why waiting for the deadline is not always a good idea. Ya you might squeeze a little more out in the end but so many things can go wrong.

  • magilljl

    So does this mean the Dodgers may, by default, end up offering a bit more for Demp? Or will they simply move on to non-Cub pitchers?? Trying to find even the smallest nugget of positivity in all this nonsense.

    • Sosa23

      they will move on to grienke more then likely

  • hcs

    I think that just about typifies this trade season for our boys in blue. Brett, maybe your blog-a-thon should be called God’s Wrath, trade edition.

  • Cerambam

    really this could not have gone any worse

    • Sosa23

      whole team could have crashed on a plane… other then that not really.

  • Fishin Phil

    I feel like I should be wearing a cup every time I read the site. It’s just one kick in the walnuts after another.

    • DaveS

      ^^^^^that, except let Brett kow I love what he does just dont always like the news…. :)

    • Master Dan

      [img]http://i1069.photobucket.com/albums/u461/dguerra4242/kick-to-the-nuts.jpg[/img]

    • Wilbur

      Ain’t that the truth … I always get a kick, of a different nature, from comments.

      At this point I’m just going to be somewhat philosophical and say. “It is what it is!” No one said building excellence would be easy or accomplished following a straight line.

      I imagine the FO works like the devil to get whatever is out there for Dumpster, move a side piece or two if offers are made, and other than Garza looks to do what can be done in August trading through the waiver process. I assume we look to move Garza next year … for less.

  • http://bleachernation.com someday…2015?

    Someone wake me up from this nightmare!!!

    • Steve

      YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!

      • Internet Random

        I cannot.

  • Leo

    The “Dempster curse” is upon us!

  • bbmoney

    Nightmare scenario this week for the Cubs. I can’t really blame the FO. Had a great deal in place with the Braves which got torpedoed by a player with 10-5 rights. And a freaky injury to a guy that’s been almost 100% healthy the past 5 years…..wow.

    Slight glimmer or hope…more likely to resign Garza? An idea I always kind of liked.

  • Drew7

    This is one of the reasons I have felt he should have been traded this past offseason, when he was a pitcher coming off a really good year that had 2 years of control left. There were just way too many risks associated with waiting until now.

    • Lou

      I think Theo was asking too much for him last offseason.

  • Ben

    this has turned into one trainwreck after another…..it is unreal

  • Curt

    So in the span of a week we’ve went from Delgado and even better prospects for garza to absolutely freakin nothing I think I have a different word than unfortunate , man what did the cubs do to anyone to get this crap, emperor selig changes the draft do that it becomes unfortunate too, then dempster renigs on helping the team out , now this something good has to happen eventually doesent it, no ones trading for garza now yu wouldn’t think so anyways. at least there’s Ronnie’s day at wrigley. the ledge is getting closer Brett lol.

  • MikeL

    Well, I think this is pretty clear that this is going to push the rebuilding process back a year…..and in ia couple of years, the casual fan is going to blame the front office because they will believe that the FO didn’t even attempt to aquire any players. I find it funny that a lot of things seem to be going against the Cubs since we hired our new FO…..the new CBA…thin drafts both this year and next….Dempster…Garza…..I mean some positive things have certainly happened, but it just seems like the climb to the top keeps getting steeper and steeper.

  • Steve

    I feel like Ralphie in Christmas Story….

    FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUDGE!!!!!!!!!!

    • Ol’CharlieBrown

      Yes!

  • nick cafardo

    I caught wind of a garza for lackey swap late last night. The cubs would have to add pieces though..

    • Serious Cubs Fan

      HAHAHA u sound like the real Nick Carfardo. So much east coast bias

    • Sosa23

      hahahahaha

  • JoeyCollins

    So does this mean Dempsters value may go up a little? If the dodgers really did want Garza and thats no longer an option then they almost have to deal for Dempster, unless they go a differnt route all together. Im trying to stay positive but its getting increasingly difficult. This “Fire Sale” is starrtig to remind me of a bon fire i went to but the wood was all wet. A lot of hype for a little smoke and no flames.

  • Deer

    So I guess the deadline will be another dud for the Cubs. Keeping Garza and/or Demp also hurts draft position.

    • JoeyCollins

      watch us end up with less money than last year… I bet we draft right after PIttsburgs compensation pick.

  • Jimbo

    Screw it, lets go after Greinke, time to toggle to buy mode.

  • Njriv

    So shouldn’t the Cubs keep keep him then and extend him? I thought the Cubs’ leverage was the fact that you could have team control over Garza for a year and a half? I don’t see them getting a huge haul for him anymore, unless they trade him in the winter or next year at the deadline, just for one really good prospect. IMO, I think they should just extend him.

    • Timmy

      I agree with this. He’s a quality pitcher that’s a solid #2 or #3 on most every team. Why not give him a long-term contract now? It’s almost as though new management doesn’t want to even consider beginning to build the conditions for a winner for many years to come. What, are we not allowed to have even one good pitcher until 2016?

    • JoeyCollins

      A Graza trade in the offseason or at next years deadline will still bring as much if not more than dempster could have this year.

      • bbmoney

        True. But I do like the idea of extending him. He’s young enough that he should still be at or near his prime when we are hopefully getting back to contending. I mean it’ll cost $15M or a little more per year, but that’s the going rate for a #2 these days.

        Of course if you got 3 really good prospects for him including a SP or two….that probably would have been better. Tough to see that happening now.

        • Ben

          It will cost more than 15per….I would think more like 18+

      • Lou

        I wouldn’t be so sure about this position. What if he struggles the remainder of the season with injury issues? Plus there’s other SP chips out there that teams could sell as good as or better than Garza during the winter and the FA market might have a good number of SPs this coming offseason.

    • Njriv

      The thing is, I don’t think this would be such a bad thing, if we did acquire Delgado.

  • Larry Bittner

    I feel like I’ve been Dempt!

    Does anyone know how many Dempster’s it takes to screw in a light bulb?

    • Kurt

      One, he raises it into place and the world revolves around him.

  • Timmy

    I hate to say it as a lifetime Cubs fan, but I called it last week. They waited too long and wanted to make too big of a splash, and in the end will end up with not much. The Dempster thing couldn’t have been foreseen, though, I guess. He really messed the team up good!

    • MikeL

      Timmy,

      I actually agree with you. I have to blame this one on the front office. I know WHY they waited so long to make the trades, and it was not a bad strategy by any means, but this is what happens……there is high risk involved when you wait until the last minute to make trades. I know they wouldn’t had as good of a deal if they made trades earlier in the month, but now they have nothing…..at least so far.

      • bbmoney

        But wouldn’t you guys have been mad if they hadn’t gotten absolutely everything they could have? I mean hindsight is 20/20, but even with that Garza was never a “must trade” guy like dempster, they could always have re-signed him or waited to trade him until the offseason if they were unhappy with the offers. And they did make a deal for Dempster, a darn good one by all accounts,………it just got torpedoed.

        • MikeL

          I totally understand where you are coming from. I guess I am just saying it is riskier to do it this way and the cubs got burned. Like I said, I understood the strategy and liked it, but basically this was a high risk/high reward strategy and the risk came back to bite them.

          • bbmoney

            I understand that it was higher risk, but I can’t blame the FO for trying to get everything they can and just getting screwed. I mean no way can you predict a guy says no to a trade he basically said he would approve (reportedly) and another guy gets a flukey injury. One in a million shot doc….one in a million.

            • Timmy

              Both great points.

  • Other other JP

    WTF. Highlight of trade season: Reed Johnson is traded for a low A middle relief pitcher coming off TJS and currently sporting a 6.28 ERA With a ceiling of micheal bowman…

  • TWC

    Me, reading Cubs news these days:

    [img]http://www.dragonflightstudio.com/banghead.gif[/img]

    • MB allbearsbullscubs

      lol

    • Fishin Phil

      Absolutely!

    • bbmoney

      hahahaha. That was much more graphic than anticpated ….and hilarious.

    • Steve

      Holy crap….good stuff

    • Wilbur

      Ouch …

    • Other other JP

      Awesome TWC!

    • Jack Weiland

      Nailed it.

  • http://bleachernation.com someday…2015?

    Would Lee, Webster, and Reed get a deal done for Garza?? I honestly think both sides would say no. Cubs want more, Dodgers won’t give up that much IMO. If that deal was purposed, I would take it if I were Thed.

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      The Cubs would gladly say yes to that. The Dodgers, I can’t fathom, would, however.

  • dreese

    I predict there will be no trades before the deadline. This is turning into last year all over again!

    Maybe Theo is on his way out? and and the next GM might want to keep some of these guys on the roster now?

    • BeyondFukudome

      [insert emoticon for blinking in utter disbelief here]

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