In a post that’s sure to be met with jokes and a million updates, Jim Bowden reports that the Los Angeles Dodgers are getting Ryan Dempster, and the final i-dotting and t-crossing is all that’s left to do.

I don’t have a good feeling about the Cubs’ return based on what we’ve heard for days, but we’ll see. Theo and Jed weren’t about to be strong-armed on this one, unless they had no other options. Maybe they didn’t.

UPDATE: Phil Rogers says on MLBN that the Cubs really want Allen Webster, and the Cubs might be including multiple pieces to get him, including guys like Shawn Camp or Jeff Baker. And then he said something about Trey McNutt, and I burst into flames.

UPDATE 2 (at 11:49am CT): Kevin Goldstein suggests that James Russell could be involved, to which I’d note that I hope he’s not just a sweetening throw-in. Considering his effectiveness and his contract status, he’s got a lot of value.

UPDATE 3 (at 11:50am CT): George Ofman says the deal is indeed close, and involves multiple players. I’m nervous that it was the Cubs who capitulated, not the Dodgers.

UPDATE 4 (at 11:55am CT): Doug Padilla with a tweet that reinforces my fear: “As Dempster deal to the Dodgers closes in, maybe this ends the idea that Demp & Theo/Jed are on bad terms. Cubs bent over backward for this.”

UPDATE 5 (at 12:15pm CT): Kevin Goldstein hears the same thing as Phil Rogers, but he’s also been saying Dempster and Russell for Webster would be a “steal” for the Cubs. I just don’t see that, given how the starting pitching market has played out, but I get that he’s saying Webster is legit.

UPDATE 6 (at 12:18pm CT): From Jon Morosi: “No agreement yet in Ryan Dempster negotiations. Hardball going on with less than 3 hours before deadline.” Natch.

UPDATE 7 (at 12:30pm CT): Bob Nightengale says that the Cubs and Dodgers are talking, but other teams remain involved with Dempster. Is that posturing by the Cubs, or did Bowden jump the gun?

UPDATE 8 (at 12:52pm CT): Aaaaaand, take-back-sies. Jim Bowden now says Dempster to the Dodgers isn’t a sure thing, but you might be happy about the reason (you’ll have to forgive the frightful way he tweets): “Serious game of chicken between the Dodgers& Cubs on Dempster right now…Cubs believed to have found another team..LA blinks or loses him.” That one doesn’t feel like a shill for the Cubs.

UPDATE 9 (at 12:56pm CT): Tom Verducci reports on MLBN that the Cubs and Dodgers have disengaged, and the Cubs are in talks with the Yankees and a mystery team (Sweet Jesus…) on Dempster.

UPDATE 10 (at 1:07pm CT): Ken Rosenthal says that the Cubs have indeed talked to the Yankees about Dempster (and it was the Yankees contacting the Cubs). This is all very preliminary. At the same time, the MLBN crew is suddenly speculating that the D-Backs are in play for Dempster. Head = spinning.

UPDATE 11 (at 1:25pm CT): Jon Heyman cites a source who tells him Ryan Dempster has told the Cubs he’ll accept a trade to the Yankees. Dave Kaplan reported that earlier today, by the way.

UPDATE 12 (at 1:30pm CT): Joel Sherman, who’s a Yankees reporter, and who always seems to be right, says that although there have been talks, he can’t see the Yankees giving up much to get Dempster, who isn’t much of an upgrade. I just don’t agree with that, but, hey, he knows his stuff.

UPDATE 13 (at 1:35pm CT): Jim Bowden says it’s now or never for the Dodgers. Either they blink (presumably on Webster), or Dempster goes to the Yankees. Here’s the thing: I’m not so sure the return from the Yankees is going to be any good, either.

UPDATE 14 (at 1:45pm CT): Ken Rosenthal hears that Dodgers don’t even want to give up anyone in their top 7 or 8 prospects for a rental like Dempster.

UPDATE 15 (at 2:26pm CT): MLBN report has the Dodgers probably not getting Dempster, and him going to either the Yankees or Rangers. I still think he goes *somewhere,* but I don’t think we’re going to like the return.

  • Leroy K.

    Tigers Cubs discussing Soriano.

  • tuckhawks

    Fonsy maybe to Tigers yet? Do it!

  • Mdel78

    Well, nothing to help keep one awake during a 30 hours blog-a-thon than to have three major things happening in the last hour!

    Dempster – I think he’s still going to LA, and I hope they are at least getting Gould back at this point.

    Garza – Been a little quiet recently… here’s hoping Toronto and the Cubs are just putting the finishing touches.

    Soriano – I’m not as panicked that this works out today. He’s going to clear waivers, and I don’t think they are going to get anything super significant back that it would bother me (though, if theycan get it done and it helps the Cubs, no reason not to).

  • daveman

    relax, yankees aren’t even in the national league

  • IndyCubsFan

    Did I just see Telemaco? haha I haven’t heard that name in forever! Here’s a blast from the past… Steve Buchelle!

  • MikeCubs23

    Ryan Dempster would agree to go to Braves (rolling eyes)

  • atfinch

    Hope I’m wrong, but starting to get gut feeling last night was the big fireworks for the Cubs & trade deadline and today is a whole big can of nothing.

    • cjdubbya

      Takes two to tango…

      • Jack Weiland

        Disagree. I “tango” with myself on the regular.

        • Ogyu


          • Jack Weiland

            Oh come on we all do it!

            • Dan

              ^ Truth

  • Sean

    What if their is already deal in place for Garza just waiting for other teams to match it? Never know with this front office.

  • Dan

    Completely Random Thought Here:

    What ever happened to Bobby Scales? or is he just a figment of my imagination after getting only 3 hours of sleep. Don’t know why I am thinking of this right now…


    • DocPeterWimsey

      I think that Scales is a grandfather now. Come to it, he might have been one by the time he started playing for the Cubs….

      • Dan

        Wow. Is he really that old? Glad to know I’m not hallucinating though.

      • Jason

        We were at Wrigley for his MLB debut. He looked pretty god then.

    • Dylan

      He’s with the Mets’ AAA team out in Buffalo.

  • Dan
  • dash

    Didn’t Scales end up going to Japan?

  • Matt

    I have a feeling we’ll be here at 3p only to wait another 90+ min before we find out what got done in time.

  • Timmy

    Dempster you suck!

  • BlueHorizons

    The second hand seems to be picking up speed… “time keeps on slippin’, slippin’, slippin’ into the future” as Steve Miller would say… not seeing any updates, which must mean we probably won’t hear anything until right at the deadline if/when any deals have been consumated. I’m hopin’ there are at least two BIG return deals about to be finalized. (Dempster and Garza) A deal for Soriano would be icing on the cake.

  • TonyP

    Keep him if the return sucks

  • Evolution

    In a New York minute…

  • Jose Cardenal

    Dempster says he would agree to a trade with the Expos…

    • EQ76


  • Josh

    Do you think Vizcaino will have more of an impact on the Cubs than Delgado would have?

  • cubmig

    What’s up? No news on Demp or Garza? Reds, Pirates, Red Sox & Deadbirds have sealed deals. Where is our next?

  • Jack Weiland

    I’m gonna go pee. Someone tell Theo to trade Dempster and Garza while I’m gone. Thanks.

    • EQ76

      you might want to turn that #1 into a #2.

    • beerhelps

      You got it, will do.

  • DCF

    People just need to reevaluate what a satisfying return would look like.
    After the botched Braves deal there’s not much the FO can do other than play hardball in negotiations as long as possible. However, in the end it comes down to the question if a “bad” return, like a C prospect wouldn’t still be better than keeping Dempster , which has pretty much zero value and might turn into a headache going forward from this mess. The answer there is pretty clear to me.

  • KWD22

    At this point anything is better than him either walking or accepting a qualifying offer. Just get something done.

  • Jesse

    This is depressing.

    • cubmig

      Just wait if Dempster takes the mound tonight……I think he going to be wearing some of it if the fans get upset because of everthing that’s gone down—–AND I do mean DOWN!

  • donnie kessinger

    If return is minimal, keep Dempster. He may squeak by on an August waiver deal…

  • dudeski

    i’m bored

  • Flashfire

    Anyone else real interested to see what happens if Dempster takes the mound tonight?

    • cubmig

      Obviously I am. If the fans in the stands have kept up with this whole thing, I can’t believe the greeting Dempster’s gonna’ get will be boos so loud, fans on the rooftops will have to cover their ears!

  • Fastball

    I think the return gets better with yanks and rangers in the next 10 minutes.

  • Sheppard

    We could have Delgado for Demp and Delgados 10K’s,,
    F the DODGERS forever..

    so Yanks for 2 scrubs

  • Adam1680

    It’ll be interesting to see what players from the Rangers Class A squad. They had 5 all-stars this year:

    SS Hanser Alberto (19 y/o)
    LF Chris Grayson (22 y/o)
    right-handed pitchers Phil Klein (23) and Nick Martinez (21)
    left-handed pitcher Victor Payano (19)

    • stillmisskennyhubbs

      Thanks Adam, good update