Ryan Dempster Deal Could Be Down to Dodgers and Yankees (UPDATES Galore)

In a post that’s sure to be met with jokes and a million updates, Jim Bowden reports that the Los Angeles Dodgers are getting Ryan Dempster, and the final i-dotting and t-crossing is all that’s left to do.

I don’t have a good feeling about the Cubs’ return based on what we’ve heard for days, but we’ll see. Theo and Jed weren’t about to be strong-armed on this one, unless they had no other options. Maybe they didn’t.

UPDATE: Phil Rogers says on MLBN that the Cubs really want Allen Webster, and the Cubs might be including multiple pieces to get him, including guys like Shawn Camp or Jeff Baker. And then he said something about Trey McNutt, and I burst into flames.

UPDATE 2 (at 11:49am CT): Kevin Goldstein suggests that James Russell could be involved, to which I’d note that I hope he’s not just a sweetening throw-in. Considering his effectiveness and his contract status, he’s got a lot of value.

UPDATE 3 (at 11:50am CT): George Ofman says the deal is indeed close, and involves multiple players. I’m nervous that it was the Cubs who capitulated, not the Dodgers.

UPDATE 4 (at 11:55am CT): Doug Padilla with a tweet that reinforces my fear: ”As Dempster deal to the Dodgers closes in, maybe this ends the idea that Demp & Theo/Jed are on bad terms. Cubs bent over backward for this.”

UPDATE 5 (at 12:15pm CT): Kevin Goldstein hears the same thing as Phil Rogers, but he’s also been saying Dempster and Russell for Webster would be a “steal” for the Cubs. I just don’t see that, given how the starting pitching market has played out, but I get that he’s saying Webster is legit.

UPDATE 6 (at 12:18pm CT): From Jon Morosi: “No agreement yet in Ryan Dempster negotiations. Hardball going on with less than 3 hours before deadline.” Natch.

UPDATE 7 (at 12:30pm CT): Bob Nightengale says that the Cubs and Dodgers are talking, but other teams remain involved with Dempster. Is that posturing by the Cubs, or did Bowden jump the gun?

UPDATE 8 (at 12:52pm CT): Aaaaaand, take-back-sies. Jim Bowden now says Dempster to the Dodgers isn’t a sure thing, but you might be happy about the reason (you’ll have to forgive the frightful way he tweets): ”Serious game of chicken between the Dodgers& Cubs on Dempster right now…Cubs believed to have found another team..LA blinks or loses him.” That one doesn’t feel like a shill for the Cubs.

UPDATE 9 (at 12:56pm CT): Tom Verducci reports on MLBN that the Cubs and Dodgers have disengaged, and the Cubs are in talks with the Yankees and a mystery team (Sweet Jesus…) on Dempster.

UPDATE 10 (at 1:07pm CT): Ken Rosenthal says that the Cubs have indeed talked to the Yankees about Dempster (and it was the Yankees contacting the Cubs). This is all very preliminary. At the same time, the MLBN crew is suddenly speculating that the D-Backs are in play for Dempster. Head = spinning.

UPDATE 11 (at 1:25pm CT): Jon Heyman cites a source who tells him Ryan Dempster has told the Cubs he’ll accept a trade to the Yankees. Dave Kaplan reported that earlier today, by the way.

UPDATE 12 (at 1:30pm CT): Joel Sherman, who’s a Yankees reporter, and who always seems to be right, says that although there have been talks, he can’t see the Yankees giving up much to get Dempster, who isn’t much of an upgrade. I just don’t agree with that, but, hey, he knows his stuff.

UPDATE 13 (at 1:35pm CT): Jim Bowden says it’s now or never for the Dodgers. Either they blink (presumably on Webster), or Dempster goes to the Yankees. Here’s the thing: I’m not so sure the return from the Yankees is going to be any good, either.

UPDATE 14 (at 1:45pm CT): Ken Rosenthal hears that Dodgers don’t even want to give up anyone in their top 7 or 8 prospects for a rental like Dempster.

UPDATE 15 (at 2:26pm CT): MLBN report has the Dodgers probably not getting Dempster, and him going to either the Yankees or Rangers. I still think he goes *somewhere,* but I don’t think we’re going to like the return.

Brett Taylor is the editor and lead writer at Bleacher Nation, and can also be found as Bleacher Nation on Twitter and on Facebook.

411 responses to “Ryan Dempster Deal Could Be Down to Dodgers and Yankees (UPDATES Galore)”

  1. cjdubbya

    Here, I come to save the day…

    That means that Mystery Team is on the way!

    1. rhino70

      I bet its the D’backs. Gets them a quality starter AND screws LA at the same time.

  2. RoughRiider

    Bowden should market some flip flops.

  3. TonyP

    I’m so excited I might throw up. GET SOMETHING DONE TODAY THED!!

  4. Jack Weiland

    I eagerly anticipate Jim Bowden calling the Cubs-Yankees Dempster trade a done deal, at which point everything will fall apart.

    1. MaxM1908

      Because Demp meant to say he would only CONSIDER a trade to the Yankees.

  5. EB

    This is unbelievable!

  6. Sosa23

    garza and jackson for bauer and upton!

    1. Jack Weiland

      Dream on, good sir!

  7. Fishin Phil

    If Dempster becomes a Yankee, it will be my duty to hate him.

    1. MaxM1908

      Waaaaay ahead of you, Phil. But, I’ll be happy to welcome you into the fold if and when that happens.

  8. MichiganGoat

    Walk away Brett the Dempster Saga is going to put you in a straight jacket. See you know rolling in the floor “Dempster to be traded, no wait, another team, dodgers, wait, Yankees “. Walk away buddy

    1. rhino70

      RT @BleacherNation — Dempster to the Chico’s Bail Bonds for Amanda Whurlitzer, Kelly Leak and Timothy Lupus

  9. jim

    No deal with coletti! For first n only time i root for yanks.

    1. LeotheCub

      i agree….do not deal with colleti

  10. Joshua Edwards

    Dempster has a house in AZ, and likes training there.

    1. MaxM1908

      Eh, with our luck he’d reject the trade saying the sun is too bright during the summer and he recently lost his sunglasses, so you know, no trade.

  11. Garrett

    Both of them! there starting pitching isn’t that great, make it a monster trade demp and garza for a monster return!!

  12. MichiganGoat

    Brett’s cracking we will need another fundraiser for mental health care

    1. Tim

      He can’t fold this close to the deadline. Where’s the Coke Zero??

  13. aCubsFan

    Well than…it seems Kaplan had better sources this morning than Bowden did. I still think the Dodgers have been using the media outlets to try and scare off potential bidders so they can keep the price as low as possible. Thinking they had Dempster in their hip pocket and the Cubs over the barrel.

    1. aCubsFan

      I meant to say Heyman instead of Bowden.

    2. cubmig

      ….and my first question was: How good is the source [Bowden] and is he believeable? (paraphrased)

  14. Ari Gold

    Once I heard Corbin was scratched from his triple A start, I figured the D-Backs were in play for Dempster.

  15. The Other Brett

    Hey! Not only because all the action, but because I’m driving 500 miles today on a work trip. I am by far the most dangerous man on the interstate today!

  16. jim

    So brett is completely frozen to his bed and the devil asks if he is comfortable. “yes,” he says, “but, tell me, did the cubs win the world series?”

  17. aCubsFan

    This is really going to come down to the 3pm CST deadline.

  18. Kyle

    don’t know where else to put this. vizcaino ranked as no. 3 prospect for cubs by jonathan mayo of mlb.com. i thought that was pretty exciting. thought i would share.

    1. SirCub

      Crazy. What a great return.

      1. Kyle

        I am glad one person cares at least ha. and yea paul maholm for the best pitching prospect in our system… so far.

        1. Hee Seop Chode

          I’ve been looking for this info. Is the Cubs highest ranked pitching prospect a bit like the tallest midget in Nebraska?

          1. gocatsgo2003

            For a long while, it was.

            However, it might start to really mean something with Vizcaino and some of the 2012 draftees in the fold (Blackburn, Johnson, Underwood, etc.), especially if we get some good returns in any possible Dempster, Garza, or other trades.

          2. djriz

            No. It’s much easier to find a ‘little person’ in Nebraska.
            The only pitching prospect that would rank top 10 is Visciano.

          3. Kyle

            don’t forget about maples, and even mcnutterbutter

        2. DocPeterWimsey

          It’s actually a really good investment of the monies last winter. You sign a guy like Malholm who’s good enough to supplant the #4 starter even on many contending teams, and then turn him into a prospect when a contender realizes that they really could upgrade the back of the rotation.

          (KLaw is probably correct: this probably will mean only 1 more win for the Braves; but how many more wins did the Braves need last year?)

          1. Jack Weiland

            Superb GMing. And I’m sure the FO made that Maholm signing with exactly this in mind (as best case scenario).

  19. RY34

    Good news, hate the dodgers and we were never gonna get lee, webster or the other guy anyway; on to the yanks

  20. LeotheCub

    Good….I am glad Nic Colleti will not get Ryan D. If you trade with him he will always get the upper hand.

  21. cubmig

    Theo&Jed must have a number of callers on hold to be bouncing around as the are. That, to me, is a sign of hope that a team shrugged-off (strategy?) may up their offer in a come-back. So far—and as long as there are players, Theo&Jed can be said to be in the driver’s seat.

    1. RoughRiider

      The number you have dialed is no longer in service or is in another area. If you’ve reached this number in error please hang up and try your call again.

  22. coby

    This is awesome!

  23. dash

    What happens if the Cubs don’t have 9 players left on the roster by game time tonight? Would the Pirates spot us a couple of bench guys?

    1. cjdubbya

      I’m sure Sveum could still suit up in a pinch, and you could probably have Bos throw a couple innings in relief.

  24. daveman

    I wouldn’t mind a trade to the Yankees if able to snag some of their top prospects. Yankees have some good young arms in farm system.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/top-15-prospects-new-york-yankees/

  25. DowntownLBrown

    I would be all for a Dempster, Garza, and etc. trade for Upton! Pipe dream.

  26. Nathan

    I really like Patrick Corbin, I would trade Dempster for him easily. Any deal involving garza to the dbacks though better have skaggs in it because there is no way they get bauer or bradley

  27. Roy Hobbs

    I love this shit!!!! Trade everybody!!

    Trade me, I’ll waive my ntc!

    Send me to the brewers for ten cases of brew and I’ll buy beers for the whole team!!

    Haha, who knew being obsessed to an unhealthy degree could be so much fun!

    1. SirCub

      You wouldn’t brew the 10 cases of brew for the Brewers yourself?

      Well, brew you!

  28. Eric

    I’m really surprised I went to bed at 6:00 a.m. woke up at 1:00 p.m. and there is no additional trades.

  29. Tony

    Arizona…master deal in the works. Garza, Dempster, Sori, for Upton, Corbin, and Skaggs? Throw in Brett Jackson, I’d say jump, jump, jump for joy.

  30. Adam

    At this point I don’t care what return we get for Dempster as long as he is not a Dodger. This got personal with the Dodgers.

    1. David

      Yeah, as much as I know it’s irrational, I agree with you.