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Hopefully this Alfonso Soriano injury isn’t serious.

Last night, Soriano was a late scratch thanks to some swelling and soreness in his hand. He suffered the injury the night before on a slide into second base, when he was inadvertently spiked by Logan Forsythe. On the scratch, Soriano said that he wanted to play, but he wasn’t “Superman,” and couldn’t make a go of it. No real worries – Soriano could probably use a breather day anyway. All indications were that he was going to miss only that game.

But this morning we learn that he’s undergoing a precautionary x-ray, and that he didn’t feel comfortable holding the bat. Dale Sveum added that Soriano couldn’t really swing a bat yesterday. Um. I mean, I don’t reckon Soriano would say he was going to play today if he was worried at all, but … he couldn’t swing a bat yesterday? That seems a bit more serious than a little ouchy from which a guy comes back the next day no worse for the wear.

I’m hoping the injury isn’t serious, the x-ray really is just uber-precautionary, and the fact that he “couldn’t” swing a bat yesterday was a bit of an exaggeration.

You don’t need me to explain to you why a serious Alfonso Soriano injury right now would be a huge bummer. The Cubs are undoubtedly working hard to put together a Soriano deal this month while he has some value (if the Cubs eat enough of his contract, I now believe they could actually get back a decent (not top) prospect), and an injury of even marginal severity will torpedo those efforts. We’ve heard this story before.

We’ll see if Soriano plays today, and if he looks normal in doing so. My fingers are crossed that this is a total non-story.

  • hansman1982

    HOORAY!!! Seriously, the past month for the Cubs FO sounds like my work – the only news is bad news.

  • Fishin Phil

    I’m telling you any minute now, a new headline: “Cubs player bursts into flames, possible spontaneous combustion, precautionary MRI ordered.”

    • Brian Peters

      Better yet, Fishin’–why don’t the Cubs organization combust and start from scratch in, say, Decatur, IL…..original home of Da Bears????

      • WaLi

        I lived in Decatur for a few years. I would not wish that upon anyone.

        • Wilbur

          Two observations:
          1) … no one should be condemned to live in Decatur
          2) I thought only puppets could spontaneously combust?

  • Master Dan

    [img]http://i1069.photobucket.com/albums/u461/dguerra4242/cat_pray.jpg[/img]

  • Katie

    This sounds about right. Le sigh.

  • hansman1982

    Apparently God REALLY REALLY REALLY wants to see LaHair play in the outfield.

    • CubFan Paul

      Too funny.

    • Patrick W.

      Unless there’s a lefty on the mound, then he wants to see Jeff Baker. God’s gonna be soooooo pissed.

  • Andrew

    My guess is that the cubs had a deal in place sending soriano to the orioles and no cash for Dylan Bundy and soriano accepted it. It would be the only fitting context to this story.

    • Flashfire

      I doubt it, only because McPhail is no longer there to approve that trade.

  • Carne Harris

    God’s a dick. And right after I’d started to forgive him for cancer and Bieber and not having the two meet.

    • #23

      this is just a really stupid and offensive comment.

      • BeyondFukudome

        If God is offended, I’m sure He can handle it Himself.

  • Flashfire

    So, Bryan LaHair says that he’s sure he’ll get another opportunity to start and a day later this happens. Hmmm… Have we checked LaHair’s travel bag for a wand, a box of mangrove roots, and “The Standard Book of Spells, Grade 29?”

    • stillmisskennyhubbs

      I believe that LaHair has earned a pass. He has done everything he was asked to do; hasn’t complained; hasn’t demanded a trade or a starting role; hasn’t rejected a trade either.
      Do you want a guy who would be content just to sit on the bench, grow stale, and just pick up his paycheck? I wouldn’t.
      Amazing how so many who loved him earlier this season–when he was all we had for power–are now throwing dirt on the guy.

      • TWC

        … demanded a trade …

        I would LOVE to see this headline: “Mediocre AAAA/4th Outfielder Making League Minimum Demands Trade! Nation Yawns.”

        • spearman

          To be honest, I would like to making the league minimium.

          • TWC

            Ha. I’d undercut you by half!

        • stillmisskennyhubbs

          Sigh…more dirt.
          OK, I’ll clarify: He didn’t pull a Bobby Abreu.
          He still gets a pass from me.
          You guys who loved him in April and May and now think he’s trash just kill me.

          • TWC

            You guys who loved him in April and May and now think he’s trash just kill me.

            Who? Name one.

      • Boogens

        You may have read more into Falshfire’s comment that intended. It looked to me like he wasn’t citicizing LaHair, more like he was merely being sarcastic while pointing out that maybe it was LaHair’s voodoo that caused Soriano’s injury.

        • Flashfire

          I assumed the Harry Potter references would make the joke obvious. Apparently not.

  • Cheryl

    I agree.He has done what’s been asked of him. How many players placed in his position would act as positively as he has? Sure he doesn’t like riding the bench. That’s to be expected. I was one of his earliest rooters. I still root for him but recognized that his inconsistent playing time was bound to affect him. That’s why I hoped and still hope that he gets traded. His story didn’t deserve to end this way and if Theo and company look in the mirror they will know why the story has played out the way it has. The chance they gave LaHair was only good until they traded for Rizzo. The writing was on the wall then – change in position, platoon at first and then the outfield, catagorize him as a part time player and then bench him.

    • TWC

      … his inconsistent playing time was bound to affect him.

      Right. Or he just isn’t very good.

      His story didn’t deserve to end this way and if Theo and company look in the mirror they will know why the story has played out the way it has.”
      Lulz. Have you head about dear, poor, mistreated Ben Klafczynski?

      • TWC

        Last paragraph should read:

        His story didn’t deserve to end this way and if Theo and company look in the mirror they will know why the story has played out the way it has.”

        Lulz. Have you head about dear, poor, mistreated Ben Klafczynski?

      • Cheryl

        Yes – you have the choice – either he wasn’t very good or there were other reasons why he slipped the way he has. I choose to believe that it was the position he was placed in after the trade for Rizzo.

        • Jonski

          Ryan Ludwick oops I mean Brian LaHair needs to take his talents to Japan.Who wouldn’t trade a often injury prone power arm in Cashner for the upside of Rizzo?

          • Cheryl

            I’m not saying that the Rizzo trade was wrong but what I’m saying is it placed LaHair in the position that he was the odd man out and the FO would have been aware of that.

            • Boogens

              Odd man out or not, he had plenty of time after Rizzo’s callup to play RF and demonstrate that he could hit major league pitching consistently. The only reason that he didn’t play everyday is because he had already proved that he couldn’t hit lefthanded pitching. Not even a lick.

              I’ve got nothing against the guy and I’d be happy as hell if he played like he did earlier in the year. The league has caught up to him. Time to move on to someone else. We can’t stay married to middling ballplayers if we want them to win the World Series.

            • Jonski

              Could be ,but what im saying is 1st base has always been a problem with the Cubs. In my mind it a 2 horse race Grace and D Lee before wrist injury. When we got Lee he was 27 or 28…Keep in mind ive been following since 84 and Leon Bull Durham was a joke!I like the fact that we have a 22 year old stud in Rizzo that could be the Cubs 1st baseman for the next decade.

            • stillmisskennyhubbs

              Cheryl, thanks for trying with logic and rationality, but apparently the mob is shopping for pitchforks now, instead of pedestals.

        • DocPeterWimsey

          Or LaHair is just performing at his level all along and the variation is just what we expect given what baseball is. At any rate, we know that being passed over does not affect LaHair’s performance: he was passed over several times (the M’s refused to ever call him up despite having inferior players and the Cubs signed Pena rather than call up LaHair last season) yet he still posted solid AAA numbers.

    • Cheryl

      P.S. I know that the argument will be made that he can’t hit lefthanders. There’s an obvious difference in his splits but it always seemed strange to me that LaHair was always the one taken out of the lineup when a switch was made and several of you questioned it at the time.

    • MichiganGoat

      So LaHair is the new Micah Hoffpauir

      • Jonski

        I like Ryan Ludwick comp better,but he is right handed so yes you are correct Micah Hoffpauir.

  • The Dude Abides

    They should have traded LaHair back in early June, if you didn’t see this coming with LaHair you are in denial. 29 yr. old rookie who can’t hit lefties and Rizzo on the horizon. AL as a platoon DH and player is his best chance. Theo assuming he tried to trade him severely over valued what is at best a 250 AB player. Basically every team in the league has a guy like this floating around the minors or on the bench pinch hitting; problem is they have more talent at the major league level so generally you never hear of them. Remember he is playing for one of the worse teams in baseball and his time is being cut. Not exactly a ringing endorsement for his future.

    • Cheryl

      I agree and I hoped he would be traded in June. When Theo was planning for the future and knew Rizzo would be up shortly, that was the time to trade LaHair.

      • Cheryl

        I’ll make the following prediction – within the next month LaHair will be DFA, Rizzo’s average will slip but he will remain the first baseman; Vitters and BJax will either be traded or sent back to the minors by this time next year; within three years Vogelbach will have worked up to AAA and be traded; Almora, Baez and Soler will be in the majors in three years and a huge controversy will erupt when Castro is traded for pitching (Theo will have no choice but to do this because Castro is one of the most valuable players with the cubs and probably the only one who could get the type of impact players the cubs need. This is a trade I would not like to see.)

        • Boogens

          Not arguing, but clarifying… you see Baez as a SS when he gets to the majors and not as a 3B? I’m not an expert but I believe that he’ll most likely be a 3B.

          • Cheryl

            You could be right. I’m not sure where Baez will play. But he’s talented and on the fast track. So far the cubs don’t have an answer at third but a few of the contributors here have said they see him taking Castro’s place.

        • Jonski

          Nobody has a crystal ball ,but this 5 or 6 year plan that everybody keeps talkin about isn’t happening unless your the Twins,Royals,Padres ect.From 2010 til the present the drafting has been better other then Hayden Simpson so by this time next year we will have had 4 solid drafts and the only major money left on the books will be Soriono til 14 and Marmol at the end of 13 my guess is that they will start signing free agents in 2014 .In response to your comments about what top prospects will be traded its a matter of who and I don’t think Vitters or Jackson carry high enough value to get traded at this time.

        • Wilbur

          … as reasonable a submission as any one else can make.

    • DocPeterWimsey

      Who was trying to get LaHair from the Cubs in June? You cannot just call an AL team and say: “take this player from us.” (The Cubs FO has been trying to do that with Soriano for 2 years now.)

      Yes, people got carried away with LaHair in April and May. However, people are now getting carried away in the opposite direction. LaHair is still a solid batter for slugging and drawing a walk. Heck, he almost looked comfortable in LF last night, too!

      • Cheryl

        Thankyou, Doc. I think that’s the first positive thing you’ve said about LaHair. One more point and its not directed at you Doc. Who wants to read a negative story about a player when you want to root for him? LaHair has weaknesses, but would his fellow players have voted him an All Star if they didn’t recognize his value? They’re professionals and not likely to vote for someone who hey feel didn’t desrve to be on the All Star team.

        • Jonski

          Lahair making the all star team was more about Votto not being able to start and Fielder/ Albert bolting to the AL then it was his numbers.The very fact that a role player or bench player made a start at the all star games tells you what a joke the game really is.I say give home field advantage to the highest winning team in the league and do away with the all star game much like football talking about getting rid of the pro bowl.

    • AB

      LaHair’s probably worth more to the Cubs than what they would be able to get for him.

      • Boogens

        I don’t see it. He’s completely lost at the plate. I don’t think it would be very difficult to find an adequate replacement for him in the offseason.

        • Chris

          Couldn’t agree with you more.

        • AB

          What would the Cubs be able to get for LaHair if he’s so lost?? Its not like other teams aren’t watching him too. They’re better off holding onto him and trying to build up his value as a solid platoon player.

          • Boogens

            “What would the Cubs be able to get for LaHair if he’s so lost??”

            I’m not sure I understand your question in the context of my statement. I do think that LaHair’s lost at the plate so any trade return the Cubs could get for him at this point would be minimal.

            IIn any of the comments I’ve made I’ve not suggested that they get rid of him, I’m just saying that he’s had a chance to play, has shown that he’s not an everyday player, is struggling right now and isn’t the kind of starting player that the Cubs will / should have in their lineup if they want to win the World Series. He is a decent role player because his bat could come back, he plays a couple positions, is LH, a good team guy, and he’s not expensive.

        • AB

          Also, The Cubs minors system doesn’t have a lot of adequate replacements at the upper levels either for LaHair’s skillset. Justin Bour is about the closest thing, and from all reports he’s a butcher in the field and can’t even field the outfield.

          • Boogens

            I’m not suggesting that they need to get him off the roster and I don’t know what I wrote that makes you think I do. I’m just saying that he’s not an everyday player. Although I did say in another post that it wouldn’t be hard to replace him in the offseason that doesn’t mean that I am suggesting that they go ahead and do that. As long as he remains inexpensive I don’t have a problem with him.

  • Doug

    Let’s start the over under at 4 weeks.

  • Boogens

    Reality check… answer the following question yes or no…

    “When the Cubs win the World Series do I see players like Bryan LaHair playing 1B, RF or LF for us?”

    Despite how much we like him and think he’s a good guy that deserves a chance it’s awfully hard to answer that question as “Yes”.

    • Patrick W.

      That’s not the only question, and there is a legitimate answer: Yes, if he’s not playing there regularly, if he’s a valuable bat off the bench with protection against injury, I’m fine with the idea he might be on the roster.

      Perhaps he’s not a regular starting MLB player, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have value. Do you think, for example, that the Cubs will have a back-up first baseman who is AS GOOD AS Rizzo when the cubs win the World Series? Or will they have a solid enough defender with a league-average bat?

      • Boogens

        Of course you need adequate backups at key positions to win the World Series. In this context we were talking about LaHair getting a chance, meaning as a starter.

        Bench guys are an important part of a WS team but we don’t even have WS calibur starters in many positions. Why focus so much concern over a role player?

      • Chris

        Let’s not get too crazy as to what LaHair’s value is. He’s valuable because he makes the minimum. But there are plenty of left handed backup 1B/OF that if given 350 at bats, they could hit 10+ homers. He got hot for two months this season, and he tore up AAA last year. But he’s a backup. I don’t think his value is any greater than that of Jeff Baker, Reed Johnson, or Joe Mather. If there is a more versatile, younger player, also making the minimum, his value is less likely to keep him on the roster.

  • Drew7

    “I don’t think his value is any greater than that of Jeff Baker, Reed Johnson, or Joe Mather.”

    These guys provide value by being able to hit LHP, which comprises 1/3 of pitching in the MLB. LaHair provides much better on-base and power skills than any of those 3. If you can mash RHP, you have value.

  • J R

    Soriano now?? It’s like the guys on the team that know the FO really wants to trade them, sit down and come up with plans on how they can mess up their trade value dramatically..

    • stillmisskennyhubbs

      Soriano….oh yeah, the guy this thread was about before the LaHair dissection….is in today’s lineup, batting 4th, per Carrie Muskat.

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