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respect wrigleyWith the emergence of an offer to move the Chicago Cubs out of Wrigley Field and a suggestion that the Cubs move the iconic Old Scoreboard to accommodate advertising that doesn’t block rooftop views, Alderman Tom Tunney is losing the public relations battle these days – so much so that anonymous political compatriots are coming to his defense.

Already viewed by many as a hard-lining obstructionist in all matters Cubs (but concededly viewed by many in his ward as a guy who legitimately works for their benefit), this very public battle with the Chicago Cubs over the renovation of Wrigley Field and the funding thereof hasn’t done much for Tunney’s image among Cubs fans. That may not be fair, but politicians tend to care very deeply about one thing in particular: being re-elected. Cubs fans almost certainly aren’t the largest voting base in Tunney’s ward, but I suspect they do matter.

Perhaps sensing a turning of the public tide, Tunney is working to soothe his image, and remind folks that he’s trying to work with the Cubs, not against them.

“These [stories] take on a life of their own,” Tunney told the Chicago Tribune of the way he’s been portrayed in the negotiations. “I’m upset about the mischaracterizations.”

One mischaracterization about which Tunney feels strongly is that he was behind the idea to move the Old Scoreboard to accommodate a JumboTron. He explained to the Tribune that the idea was one of many discussed with Mayoral staffers and Cubs employees, and although he may have originally suggested it at those meetings, it was discarded, and he didn’t push for it.

(Interestingly, Serena Dai of DNAinfo writes that the move-the-scoreboard idea actually dates back to community meetings in 2012, at which Tunney and Cubs representatives were present, and at which a resident suggested the idea. Also interesting: Serena notes that there is annual community meeting next Tuesday, March 26, at which renovation issues are sure to be discussed. The meeting – thanks to Serena for the details – is at 6:30pm in the community room at the 19th Police District’s headquarters, located at 850 W. Addison, should you live in the area and be inclined to attend. You can see some details on the meeting here. I’ll remind folks about the meeting early next week.)

Tunney added that he was “disappointed” with the David Axelrod tweet that painted him as the reason a deal has yet to be completed. Tunney said that he’s spoken to Mayor Emanuel, who is close with Axelrod, about the tweet. (That whole dynamic is pretty weird. Yes, Axelrod’s firm has previously done work for the Cubs, but you wouldn’t think that he would be a political ally of the Ricketts Family to the exclusion of Tunney, a Democrat. His criticism of Tunney didn’t do much to help the Cubs, even if that was his intention. I’d love to know who reached out to Axelrod to scold him first – Emanuel or the Cubs?)

For their part, the Cubs denied to the Tribune that they’ve been orchestrating any of the negative PR against Tunney (by, for example, leaking the scoreboard plan, or asking Axelrod to rip Tunney), but reiterated that the April 1 deadline for having a deal in place (in order to make the construction arrangements need to start work after the season) is very real.

  • Cubbie Blues

    Obsessive Wrigley renovation watch is obsessive.

    • Spencer

      I was just going to say I think this needs a new, separate title. This is far beyond any other Obsessive Watch ever.

      • MichiganGoat

        Maybe a WTF Watch?

        • http://www.bleachernation.com Luke

          I’m thinking The Facepalm Report.

          And then as this drags out for three more years, we can all submit pictures of epic facepalms to use as the leading image.

          • DarthHater

            [img]http://cdn.memegenerator.net/images/160x/579079.jpg[/img]

          • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

            Facepalming is sounding about right.

            • hansman1982

              Has this been a meme yet (similar to Tebowing, Planking, Dumbassing (which is really just a catch all for any of these))?

              • DarthHater

                Sure. Memegenerator.net has about a dozen lines of facepalming memes.

                • hansman1982

                  I know that, I meant it where crazy kids take pictures of them facepalming all over the place (including while plank-a-bowing in the middle of I-10 at 8:00 AM)

                  • DarthHater

                    Sorry, I’m not up on what you crazy kids are up to these days. :-D

    • hansman1982

      Haven’t we already established that Brett is, in fact, the Lead Troll of this site?

      • DarthHater

        Olog-Hai [Tolkien nerd alert!]

  • Mysterious4th

    Somebody please pry the lips of the rooftop owners off Tunney’s a$$…..PLEASE!

    • Crazyhorse

      Tunney Is doing an excellent Job . I doubt he really cares about the readers on this site, Besides most of people on this site already know the taste when it comes to butt kissing . praising a team that had the worst record in all of baseball..

      • CubFan Paul

        Awesome.

      • DarthHater

        All right! That does it!! Who’s the a-hole who’s been praising the Astros on this site?!?!?! :-P

        • Jono

          lets find him and kick his ass!

          • DarthHater

            No, he has already suffered enough. :-D

      • headscratchin

        Nice to see Tunney’s Mom reads BN!

        • headscratchin

          Looks like I did it again – that was supposed to be a reply to crazyhorse

      • Richp

        It’s not hard to see which individual on this site has his lips firmly glued to Tunney’s posterior.

      • Tom A.

        You are wrong !

      • Mike

        Doing an excellent job for who? Because this isn’t about night games or concerts or even closing Sheffield, or the hotel/gym or whatever else. This is about signage blocking rooftop views. Of building owned by people who for the most part do not live in that neighborhood. Those people would actually love more night games and more concerts. More night games and 3:05 start just increases the pool of people who might be able to go to a game. The neighborhood residents probably don’t want night games and street closing festivals and concerts. But Tunney is only working for the rooftop owners.

  • http://ivychat.blogspot.com Chuck

    “…you wouldn’t think that he would be a political ally of the Ricketts Family to the exclusion of Tunney, a Democrat.”

    Yeah, you might. Laura Ricketts is a far bigger deal in Dem politics than Tom Tunney ever will be.

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      Nationally, absolutely. In Chicago? I’m genuinely asking, because I don’t know.

      And I always had the impression that, in terms of political influence, Laura took a back seat to Joe and Pete in the family. Once again, I don’t pretend to know for sure, because – outside of the Wrigley story – I avoid politics with all my effort.

      • http://ivychat.blogspot.com Chuck

        Laura was a bundler (mega fundraiser) for Obama in 2012. That means she’s tight / can-be-tight with anyone Obama is tight with. And that means Rahm. And Axelrod. That they would be cozier with the Ricketts than Tunney isn’t as surprising upon second look.

        • aCubsFan

          And there is the rub. Laura Ricketts maybe tight with Rahm and Axelrod, but since Rahm has no power in ward politics, Tunney holds the Cubs fate in this greedy, grubby hands.

          • Can’t think of a cool name

            The mayor of Chicago has not power in ward politics?

      • Webb

        My favorite part about politics is when they play games against each other in the media with the assumption that everyone listening is incapable of thinking for themselves. It totally makes my day.

        • Crazyhorse

          The same could be said of many of the readers on this side. Tunney is a fine Alderman and he stands for the people and buisness is his ward. If Tunney was in the back pocket of Corperate America, The Cubs would not have the problems they are facing now, But instead he actually cares for the people in his community.
          After all is said and done , The Cubs have a contract with the rooftops and must honor those said contracts until they become nil and void. The only way the cubs can do this in a legal manner is to have Tunney in thier corner to get the permits and ordinance changes needed to buckle the rooftops. Tunney is backing the right people in his ward.

          • cubfanincardinalland

            This is the BS the Cubs are putting up with. And this is why they would be better accepting the reality that they are in a horrific business climate and head on down the road, because it is never going to change. The well is poisoned.

          • roz77

            “instead he actually cares for the people in his community.”

            If you switch “people” with “rooftop and business owners”, I’ll agree with you.

            “The Cubs have a contract with the rooftops and must honor those said contracts until they become nil and void.”

            I have yet to see anyone confirm that the contract between the Cubs and the rooftop owners explicitly forbids the Cubs from blocking the rooftops with signs. Until we get to see that, I can’t get behind the idea that the only option for the Cubs is to break their contract.

            • Tom A.

              You are correct !

            • http://ivychat.blogspot.com Chuck

              “I have yet to see anyone confirm that the contract between the Cubs and the rooftop owners explicitly forbids the Cubs from blocking the rooftops with signs.”

              A reasonable person would realize that if signs weren’t forbidden, there wouldn’t be a problem right now and the Cubs would have installed signs years ago.

            • http://thecubcontrarian.blogspot.com Kyle

              IIRC, it doesn’t. The original contract called for the Cubs to compensate the rooftop owners if Wrigley expansions blocked their views within 8 years of the agreement being reached in 2004. After that, the Cubs have free reign.

          • cubsnivy56

            Correct me if I am wrong but Tunney represents the citizens and businesses in his ward………………doesn’t that include Wrigley Field and the Cubs! Why does he treat them like an outsider?

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Luke

      Interesting point.

      On top of that, the real battles in Chicago’s politics aren’t between Democrats and any other party (seriously… lay out a scenario in which a non-Democrat gets elected Mayor that does not involve fraud, aliens, natural disasters, or an invasion). The Democrats reign unchallenged in Cook County.

      The real battles are between Democrats and other Democrats. I could see Axelrod taking a swing at Democrat 1 on behalf of Democrat 2 knowing that no matter who wins or loses in that battle, Democrats will still rule everything that matters.

      • Can’t think of a cool name

        Maybe Axelrod wants to run for Alderman.

  • DarthHater

    So, Tunney may have originally suggested the idea to move the old scoreboard, but he wasn’t behind the idea. Yea, that’s the kind of enlightening clarification that’s gonna do wonders for his image.

  • DONNIE621

    “politicians tend to care very deeply about one thing in particular: being re-elected.” RIGHT!!!
    That’s all they care about. The number 1 job of a politician is to get re-elected. They will lie, cheat and steal to keep their “public service job… I mean their personal service job” I grew up on a farm and the term service is meaningful here. The Cubs are getting “service” from Mr. Tunney!

    As for Axelrod hurting the cub cause… It’s quite the opposite.

    • DarthHater

      Blog commenters tend to care very deeply about one thing in particular: dissing politicians.

      • Edwin

        Well said.

  • DONNIE621

    Mysterious4th… otherside

  • Curt

    the entire renovation process is becoming nauseating , politicians trying to get a piece of z pie they don’t help pay for but want to dictate to. lock Tunney , Emanuel , and ricketts in a room and don’t let them out till this is done. it’s time to get it done already .

  • Hee Seop Chode

    In as far as I’ve ever heard or read,Tunney has no ambition beyond his current role. The Rickets however are major donors to both parties. I have read that Rhom has higher ambitions:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2013/02/15/rahm-emanuel-president_n_2695214.html

    It’d be logical for him to side with the Rickets over a local guy who’s owned by 10 LLCs.

  • DONNIE621

    DarthHater… what have the politicians done that deserve praise in all this? From the comments regarding Wrigley field it seems the public has these guys framed correctly. Sun lighting the “Boys” is very important. Mr. Tunney is now complaining about how he is being characterized… ahhh progress. It’s a beautiful thing.

    • caryatid62

      I’m fairly certain that, say what you will about his motivations, trying to protect several small business owners in his ward is probably something I’d want my alderman to do as well.

      You can criticize his methods and you can disagree with his position, but the fact that he dares to oppose the Cubs and side with other constituents in his ward doesn’t make him an awful person.

      • Scotti

        No one has suggested THAT is what makes Tunney an idiot. The Goose That Lays the Golden Jobs and Tax Revenue in his ward is the Cubs. Restricting those jobs and revenue is stupidity personified.

        If the Cubs bring in more revenue then they can put a better product on the field and that is good business for the rooftops, the bars, the restaurants and other businesses (even non-Cub affiliated businesses) in the area. That he doesn’t get this is what makes him am idiot. A rising Cubs tide floats all boats (that’s a proven, historical fact).

        • cubsnivy56

          Amen!

        • caryatid62

          That’s exactly what people think makes him an idiot. He’s not backing the Cubs.

          Do you honestly believe that people here are calling Tunney an idiot because they believe he is leveraging a potential long-term benefit to the economics of his ward? Come on.

          I doubt that Tunney is against the Cubs doing well and getting more revenue. He’s concerned with the amount of money that goes to the business owners in the area, specifically the rooftop owners. He knows the Cubs can’t realistically move, so he wants to get the best deal he can for these owners while he has some leverage.

          Feel free to disagree with what he’s doing (I do), but let’s understand why he’s doing it.

          • Kevin

            He knows the Cubs can’t realistically move, so he wants to get the best deal he can for these owners while he has some leverage.

            The Ricketts will run the Cubs as a business in a way to maximize their value. If some city offers land and a new stadium the cubs will move. The rent they would pay would not exceed the 12% amusement tax they currently are subject to.

            • caryatid62

              No they won’t. They will never make as much as they can at Wrigley Field. The ballpark offers guaranteed attendance, regardless of team record. It’s not happening.

              End of story.

              • Kevin

                guaranteed attendance should be based on performance of the field, not a 100 year old tavern. Maybe that’s part of the problem.

                • Kevin

                  On the field

                  • caryatid62

                    Feel free to tell a business they should take a guaranteed revenue stream and make it non-guaranteed just to make some fans on a blog happy.

          • Tom A.

            He owns restaurants (three I hear) in the area and he BENEFITS because of his political clout. I would feel much different about everything if he only was out to help others and those others were poor. He is out to help himself, as are the bar and rooftop owners. I really don’t hold that against them, but let’s not make this out to be anything but them wanted a bigger piece of the pir and also let’s be clear that Tunney is not Mother Theresa, doing things only for the betterment of the poor and ailing.

            • caryatid62

              Strawman.

              There are no “good guys” and “bad guys” here. This is a negotiation. Everyone’s trying to get the best deal they can for their needs. No one is claiming Tunney’s a saint, and no one should be claiming that Ricketts is a saint, either.

              People need to not take this so personally.

              • Tom A.

                Agree completely. And, Tunney should not take it so personal and complain to the Mayor. Maybe it bothers him, because the truth hurts.

  • http://bleachernation.com lou brock

    This story will be back page news next week as Chicago Public School chief has announced the closing of 50 + schools for next year. Teachers union has announced a big rally at Daley Plaza for next Thursday. The war is beginning & Rahm is smack dab in the middle of this. Cubs go to sports page only next week & probably less coverage of the stadium issues.

  • Leo L

    IF he feels like he is being protrayed as the bad guy now wait until the deadline passes and the cubs say they need to look into other options. he wont like that feeling. sounds like he is feeling the heat. good. good.

  • DONNIE621

    Lou Brock…Don’t you feel sorry for these teachers. After all they are getting almost half of the kids graduated. More money needs to be spent to keep these people employed… Karen Lewis… you go girl!

    • DarthHater

      For the umpteenth time, would you just keep your f-ing politics to yourself or take it somewhere else?

  • farmerjon

    I’ve got a question for tunnel, “what’s is YOUR plan for a 44th ward without the Chicago cubs?”

  • farmerjon

    Oops, Tunney

  • Jono

    Tunney’s a douche. Id think the gay people in his.district would want a less-douchy alderman representing them.

    • Jono

      In his ward, excuse me

    • Crazyhorse

      Actually , Tunney is well a repected Individual that helps many small buisness and people in his ward, He is scandal free, Many people from all walk of life feel confident in this man intergityand have the highest confidance in his performance.

      The smear (if one can call backing small buisness owners with a legal contract a smear) against him is all one sided but that is to be expected from the Tribune and the Cubs,

      • deej34

        You mean his ownership stake in restaurants wasn’t called into question and resoundingly determined to be a major conflict of interest given his position? So much so that he agreed to sell his ownership stake if re-elected? And as soon as he started a new term, he “changed his mind” and didn’t sell after agreeing to?

        Yea… no scandals at all there.

        • Crazyhorse

          Tunney actually has been a very big supporter of the Cubs and his interactions with the Cubs and the Community has been mostly been positive . He actually is a hands on leader that is not a part of big machine in the Chicago Democratic. System. He tends to get stuff done without the backroom crap that other alderman plays. He actually is a hard working individual.

          • deej34

            Haha… wtf? It is a crystal clear conflict of interest, flip-flopping and false promises, and privately profiting from public office…

            I love how blind someone can be when they really want to be… but maybe we shouldn’t talk about politics if Crazyhorse is as intelligent as the participants will be.

            • TWC

              Here in California we public officials have very, very strict guidelines about conflicts-of-interest. For instance, I cannot act (or even be in the same room) during deliberations on discretionary projects that occur within a 500′ radius of my home, or any other property that I may own. (There are, of course, some exceptions to this, but they are very specific.)

              All “Chicago politics” snickering aside, I imagine that the State of IL has clear guidelines, too. But even applying the same standards that I have to follow here in CA, 500′ from Wrigley is a pretty small circle when overlaid on top of the ward as a whole. And correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure that his restaurant is all the way down on Belmont, right?

              • deej34

                3 of the restaurants are within 1/2 a mile of Wrigley. But I don’t think the point is vicinity to Wrigley, more so being a politician of that ward who can affect policy that he could ultimately personally benefit from financially….

                • DarthHater

                  I don’t think it’s a conflict of interest to own a business in the ward one represents. Voting on actions that too directly impact your own business would be a conflict, so the alder would have a duty to recuse himself from such issues. But he wouldn’t necessarily be required to divest the business in order to hold the office.

                  In any event, I thought a big part of the issue about Tunney and the restaurants was that they would prevent him from devoting enough of his time to being an alder. By all accounts he seems to be working plenty hard at aldering, so…

                • TWC

                  But that would be true of *any* public official, right? To be a public official of a given district you (presumably) need to be resident of that district. And unless you’re statutorily not allowed to own property or a business — i.e., have no financial stake in your district — how can you be expected to live/work or even have a connection to the district you serve?

                  If Tunney owned one of the rooftop buildings, for sure you’d have a clear COI. But owning businesses many hundreds of hards away? Come on. That’s stretching it.

                  • deej34

                    Honestly, the biggest thing that bothered me was opening agreeing to sell his stake and admitting it was a COI… then flipping once elected. I don’t think anyone would argue that kind of action as trustworthy or desirable in a politician.

                    • TWC

                      I can’t really address the specifics of Tunney’s comments about his restaurant interests — I plead ignorance on that topic. I only chimed in to note that what the public may see as a conflict of interest and what the law says is a conflict of interest are almost certainly not the same thing, and your phrase “resoundingly determined to be a COI” left some ambiguity.

                      But Tunney going back on his word over something that the public had an issue with? That sounds kinda lame to me.

                  • DarthHater

                    I agree. I don’t live in Chicago any more and don’t know the language of their code of ethics for municipal officials, but the legal standard in my jurisdiction is that a local public official may not take any official action “substantially affecting” a matter in which the official has a substantial financial interest. I’m not sure what “substantially affecting” means, but it can’t mean that everything that happens in a district substantially affects every business in the district.

                  • Scotti

                    I agree that a politician SHOULD work/own business (es) in his/her district/ward–that is what representative government is all about. However, the Cubs have a HUGE impact on local restaurants, bars, etc. HUGE impact. Absolute conflict of interest without a doubt.

                    • TWC

                      Would he have the same COI if he owned a gift shop on Sheffield and Clark? Walk-in traffic is almost certainly better on game days.

                      What about a property management firm that took care of many dozens of apartments in his district. Often property management contracts are based on a percentage of the rental price. Cubs at Wrigley = higher rents, right? COI or not?

                      Again, my point of this is not to defend Tunney — I know relatively little about him — but only to say that unless statutorily defined, conflicts of interest are often very difficult to clarify.

                    • Scotti

                      As to question one: Yes, of course, COI. As to question two: Yes, COI if he is working on deals that are thus affected.

                      In such scenarios (remember, this is a dispute between constituents) he should “recuse” himself and allow the Mayor’s office to meditate. He could, however, be a local butcher, basket or candlestick maker (etc.) with little connection to the situation and govern with no COI.

                      I’m not approaching this as a matter of law, but one of civility and propriety. And as a matter of civility and propriety, I have concluded that Tunney likely has a Cardinal or White Sox tattoo on his schlong. Maybe both and I hope they hurt–unless he is a masochist as well (of which I am almost certain).

                    • TWC

                      “I’m not approaching this as a matter of law, but one of civility and propriety.”

                      That’s certainly fair. Often — especially w/ politicians — the “smell test” is much more critical than a literal examination of legality. And I would agree that the two scenarios that I suggested have a hard time passing that test. But as to whether or not those type of situations are expressly forbidden? Well, I’ll leave that determination to those who care to delve into the City/State codes on COI! I have a hard enough time keeping track of all the CA stuff I have to worry about!

                  • Tom A.

                    Come on TWC. You don’t think a guy is in a conflict of interest position when (1) he has certain political clout, (2) he receives political monies from various bar and rooftop owners and (3) he owns multiple restaurants in the same ward that he wields his political clout which in the manner he is now doing such would benefit his restaurants. Even other politicians from his same political party are challenging him. Let’s watch this play out and maybe we might see that Mr. Tunney is in a conflict of interest position. Good luck if that happens !

          • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

            Are you guys friends? That’s not an attack – I’m genuinely curious, based on your comments.

            • deej34

              Haha… no. I mean, I’d like to think I’m friends with all Bleacher Nationers. But I guess it is just me jokingly ribbing on someone who ignores facts to support a politician they like. Living in Chicago I guess I’m just too close to political corruption and individual agendas to agree with those comments.

              Side note – what are the plans for coming to Chicago for games this summer Brett? I know it must be tough with the little ones.

              • DarthHater

                Heh, I think Brett was asking whether Crazyhorse is friends with Ald. Tunney. :-P

                • deej34

                  Ah.. That would make more sense… AND made me laugh loud effort to scare my dog. Thanks Darth.

  • Crazyhorse

    No – if thats the dirt you have then it only dust in the wind,

  • BJ Wanlund

    LOL, they aren’t “mischaracterizations”, Tunney, they’re ABSOLUTELY TRUE!

  • cubfanincardinalland

    Todays comments from the mayors office and Tunney are not good signs. It is pretty obvious that all parties know that a deal is not going to happen.
    This is getting out in front of damage control. I have lost a lot of respect for the abilities of Emanuel. He is coming off looking really quite inept in this whole fiasco. You are talking about tens of billions of dollars in economic activity that is about to go down the drain. Inexcusable for a public servant to allow that to happen.

  • Barroof

    Tunney is only doing his job. Some of you are being hard on this guy without all the details. Look how far Wrigleville has come in the last 25 years. As someone who lives 1/2 a block from Wrigley I can tell you it’s better today than 5-10 years ago. I moved here BECAUSE of the Cubs and yes I have to put up with the crowds and traffic, I’m ok with that but I will say the nite games turn every alley and fence on my block into a giant urinal. You have to see it to believe it. Again – I love the Cubs and Wrigley field and wish we had 162 home games but the nite games really suck for the people with children (not me) with all the screaming drunks pissing all over the place EVERY NITE GAME. Funny I really don’t see it when they have the concerts though. I guess if the Cubs only drew 15,000 for day games I could see their point but that hasn’t been the case. Listen, If you’re on BN you’re probably a Cubs fan like me but why all the hate ? I wan’t the Cubs to do a classy job renovating Wrigley but anyone who thinks the Cubs will put ALL THAT MONEY back into the team is dreaming. Trust me when the Cubs finally get their new TV deal you will see that was all just a lie. Ricketts may be a long time Cubs fan but he’s a business man first. PS the rooftops are pretty cool.

  • Jon

    Alderman Tunney is less popular than the goat, the 45′ Detroit Tigers, The 38′ NYY, The 35′ Detroit Tigers, The 32′ NYY, The 29′ Philadelphia Athletics, The 18′ BOSOX, The 10′ Philadelphia Athletics, Steve Bartman, The 69′ Mets, The 84′ Padres, All of St. Louis, Any broadcast where Joe Buck makes an excuse to talk about the Cardinals etc.

    • Jon

      Ryan Theriot, A.J. Pierzynski

    • Silly rabbit

      But more poplar than Ian Sewart, Baker, ALL THE MALE RICKETS and King the snake Theo. kinda the reason why the Cubs are last in almost everything that matters in current events,

      • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

        I think it’s a little CRAZY for you to be on your high HORSE about this subject. It’s probably time to let it go.

        • silly rabbit

          Dude when people make comments that offends the position of your man love – just let it go . Not everyone has to fall in line and admire your silly crush – you do a disservice to cub fans from time to time.

          • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

            Yes, because that was the substance of my point. To be clear, because I think sarcasm will have difficulty landing: I’m not talking about Ricketts/Tunney/anything to do with the Cubs. I’m talking about your behavior in the comments, and my joke was to indicate that you are CrazyHorse. Pick a name and stick with it. Also, stop with the obvious (juvenile, attack-oriented) baiting.

            You are entitled to your opinions, and you are entitled to espouse them freely. You are not, however, entitled to trolling behavior. – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

            This is your only warning.

            • silly rabbit

              I respond to the writing and comments .Your lack of constructive criticism is genuine. You let other writers degrade and make a mockery of people that you disagree with but when other people degrade and make a mockery of the same substance you spew -its the silent treatment.

              Let your robots do the dirty work that you cant do – but don’t preach when your fallen heroes happen to be on the butt end of anyone’s commentary.

              • King Jeff

                And you hide behind different screen names and take cheap shots while complaining when someone takes one back at you.

                • silly rabbit

                  Jeff i could care less what you say about me. or anyone else,

              • silly rabbit

                I have seen many new writers get shot down by these troll robots that you cuddle – just because they do not like or care for in Cubs management. Your a dedicated blogger and writer continue to be good blogger not a selective one – ever been to the bleacher kid and actually hear the conversations – when the Cubs dont win Everyone is a bum. and lately the Cubs are BUMS.,.

                • King Jeff

                  There are several people on here who are critical of Theo and the front office, and point out a lot of the teams’, and certain players’ flaws, sometimes excessively. These posters also manage to do it in a civil way, without using generalized language that puts down people who don’t agree. They also don’t turn around and whine about people picking on them after they make a string of comments insulting a bunch of people. Obviously you are not one of these posters.

                  • silly rabbit

                    Dud- look at the treads -

                    • King Jeff

                      I do, and I see the same two or three people whining about getting picked on after trying to troll others. I even somewhat agree that there is kind of a lynch mob reaction to some posts, but there are far better ways to changing that then throwing fuel on the fire. Kyle disagrees with just about everyone on this site, almost on a daily basis. He pisses a lot of people off, but he does it intelligently and backs his posts with facts, and doesn’t whine that someone disagrees with him. If you posted with 1/10th of his level of insight, you might not get the responses you get. Not that you care, or anything though.

                  • silly rabbit

                    Picking on me is like a booger on this site. it happen so what. .

                    • Carew

                      trix are for kids.

                      Ha! get it? get it? eh forget it

            • cubsnivy56

              Bye bye………..

    • MichiganGoat

      Hey don’t hate us goats

  • DONNIE621

    DarthHater… that’s a great handle for you … hater. When intellect fails profanity follows! Way to go Darth!

  • Tom A.

    Truth hurts huh Mr. Tunney ! You are who you surround yourself with (in this case that would be bar and rooftop owners that give you political funds and also steal the Cubs product, as if it is their natural right to look into Wrigley Field from those silly and ugly looking rooftop seats).

  • silly rabbit

    Do the roof tops have a Contract.? Is not Tunney suppose to protect those interests when the Cubs want them void or put up obstructions . To claim that Tunney is all the stuff that brett lets go on daily basis is not fair to him as a person, or the degrading remarks or maybe its not his place to be a one sided censorship .

    If Tunney can be called names and Brett feels no Obligation to correct them he should have no feelings when I call out the Cubs.and give it out as well.

    • deej34

      This is a Cubs website and you are surprised that most people on it have a bias towards the Cubs….? In the many years I’ve been here I feel Brett does a pretty good job and representing all sides and then not being an opinion-Nazi on the board. Sorry if you have a problem with all of the Cubs fans wanted the best for the Cubs on this Cubs website.

  • hawkcub

    Funny how Tuney played the tired rich people are evil card and it didn’t stick. Now it’s stop picking on me. He’s being characterized just fine.

  • Die hard

    The Ricketts want a poor mans version of Camden Yards…… But to do it right need to turn streets around Wrigley into a mall by closing them down which is doable and would make this project the best in the country…. However the City doesn’t have the courage

  • Kevin

    April 1st is only 10 days away and we still don’t know what really is going to happen, rebuild or build from scratch elsewhere. If the Cubs stay at Wrigley (1st choice) I hope they get everything they want now because it will be more difficult down the road to ask for anything. It’s hell right now, just think how hard it will be once the Cubs invest $500M in Wrigleyville. If the Cubs end up leaving (2nd choice) I hope whereever they choose to build it will be a state of the art facility that will make it easy to forget the dirty politics they delt with for so long.

  • DONNIE621

    For silly rabbit… another great handle… right up there with DarthHater

    After reading your repeated posts and the back and forth with King Jeff… I think the following definition of SILLY applies to you

    sil·ly /ˈsilē/
    Adjective:
    Having or showing a lack of common sense or judgment; foolish.
    Noun
    A foolish person (often used as a form of address): “Come on, silly”.
    Synonyms…adjective; foolish – fatuous – daft – dull – idiotic. Noun: fool – goof – ninny

  • Die hard

    I bet that if Rosemont allows Chicago to annex those 25 acres that could be start of a final deal

    • MichiganGoat

      I’m sure there are plenty of places that would give up anything to get the Cubs, but the problem is not if they can find that deal but IF they want to make that deal.

  • md8232

    What is the current acreage of Wrigley?
    With the land values in the area, could the Cubs afford to buy
    the surrounding blocks and repurpose the land for their own best uses?

    • MichiganGoat

      Sure they could buy surrounding properties but then you have zoning issues and more political hoops

  • Kevin

    The Cubs are in a catch 22 situation. Whatever they decide to do, renovate or build elsewhere, people will second guess their decision.

    • Tom A.

      They have to remodel Wrigley or all things come to an end. Cubs would never be the same located anywhere else.

      By the way, I saw a picture of Wrigley today looking out towards CF from behind home-plate. Those buildings with rooftop seating are really quite ugly and quite unnatural for any skyline. How would any politician ever approve such to be zoning appropriate ?

      Are those ugly rooftops landmark protected ? Could pressure be placed on zoning boards to help them realize that people (large numbers of them) sitting on the roof of a building is not only unsafe but also is zoning appropriate ?!?

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