Momma said there’d be days like this.

Carlos Villanueva had a very solid debut against a quality lineup. His stuff didn’t look overly impressive, but he didn’t make many mistakes, and he was mostly in the zone (and it was a tight zone for him, too). The Cubs’ bats kind of woke up … not that it mattered.

If you’re like me, you’re at least as frustrated with the top half of the 8th inning as you are with the bottom of the 8th or the 9th. The Cubs loaded the bases with nobody out in the top of the 8th, and brought the top of the order up … then scored none. Remember this, if you didn’t already chant it: no lead is too big. 5-1? That’s nothing. Foot on the gas, boot to the neck, whatever your metaphor of choice.

The Braves immediately slapped Kyuji Fujikawa around in the bottom of the 8th, and Carlos Marmol gave up a couple homers to the Upton brothers to lose it.

It makes me sick to my freaking stomach that I don’t get to highlight anything good …

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  • Coolbeans

    Are we fucking done with marmol yet?

  • http://www.justinjabs.com/blog/ justinjabs

    Should have been Camp in the ninth.

    • http://www.justinjabs.com/blog/ justinjabs

      And that’s not just hindsight. I said that twenty minutes ago. As soon as the lead was 1.

    • Jeff

      Should have been Camp in the 8th, this game was lost in that 3 run 8th, when Sveum failed to act and do something.

      I don’t blame Marmol one bit for this loss, I expect him to suck.

      • http://www.justinjabs.com/blog/ justinjabs

        Nah, I disagree. I feel like Fuji is a better pitcher than Camp. Fuji pitches against the heart of the order in the 8th and is hopefully successful, Camp finishes the game with the bottom of the order in the 9th.

        • Jeff

          Naw, I disagree young grasshopper, Camp is a veteran that has seen these guys before, Fuji is the rookie who hasn’t been in situations like this before. It’s up to Dale Sveum to “manage” these situations, nice thought though. :)

          Fuji was pitching to the back of the middle and the bottom of the line-up and couldn’t get outs, by the way.

          • http://www.justinjabs.com/blog/ justinjabs

            Didn’t think about the experience aspect. Does Camp have the advantage because he’s seen the players before, or does Fuji have the advantage because the players haven’t seen him before? I feel like there’s a chapter in a book somewhere on that.

            And yes, unfortunately that is what happened tonight. Beforehand though I stick with my thought. :)

            • Jeff

              Oh me too, I’m right there with you as it should have been someone else in there.

              I would have liked to see Camp pitching in that situation, I like Fuji, but I feel like nerves or newness caused him to struggle. The Braves have a good hitting team, Sveum threw him to the wolves and then let him flounder without doing anything. I’d be fine with sending Fuji in those late innings after he’s thrown some more innings. He’s going to have a learning curve with learning a new league, it wouldn’t happen over night.

              As for Marmol…right now anybody in the 9th not named Marmol is a good idea.

  • Vulcan

    I never want to see Marmol’s face again. Get him off the team.

  • Dying Quail

    i hate upton&upton.

  • Spencer

    At what point does Sveum start getting some of the fault for Marmol’s clear ineptitude? Yesterday? Yeah. Yesterday sounds like a good day to start blaming Sveum. I’m tired of watching bullshit. And it’s still the first week.

    • Mrp

      Do you really think it is Sveum’s idea to keep him out there or is it coming from the top? Either way, just cut him. If no team wanted him this offseason (outside the Angels) then we aren’t going to be able to trade him now. His value was as high as it was ever going to get to.

      • Spencer

        I mean, I’m sure Sveum is getting some pressure put on him to keep letting Marmol pitch. But, as you say, any value he had before the season started (which probably wasn’t much) is now 100% gone. And it no longer makes sense to let him build value as our closer. Even if he goes 1-2-3 in his next two outings what good will that do to build his value? The damage is done.

    • YourResidentJag

      Well, get it used to, cuz it’s coming to a tv near you in 2014.

      • YourResidentJag


    • BT

      Who was Sveum supposed to use tonight? Marmol’s supposed replacement let up 3 runs in the eighth, remember?

  • fromthemitten

    hey look Marmol’s ERA is the same as my age! cute!

  • nkniacc13

    you know if Kujikia would have had a 123 inning Marmol would have had to face either Upton.

  • Dying Quail

    also: #cutmarmol

  • @cubsfantroy

    I am guessing this is how Sveum will spin this about Marmol

    “You can’t really blame him, he only had a one run lead to work with. Had we scored some more runs, it would have been a perfect situation for him.”

  • Brian

    Maybe Russell is more then a .1 inning guy

  • Rcleven

    Well that sucked.

  • nkniacc13

    I cant imagine the reception he will get when the Cubs bring him in for the first time next week at home.

    • Jason

      I’ll be at the home opener, and I know Ill boo him if he comes in. Hopefully it will be in a long relief role when the Cubs are up by 8.

  • Nate

    At this point, I GUARANTEE you the other team’s fans cheer whenever Carlos Marmol enters the game.

    • John

      As pissed as I am that’s funny

  • nkniacc13

    Brett, Momma said there will be days like this but she didn’t say there would be so many right?

  • nkniacc13

    Good news is Soler Homered today for Daytona

    • Vulcan

      Its always easier to look towards the future when the present looks like sh*t.

  • cubzfan23

    If i see marmol again in a cubs uniform im done… granted three runs were givin up in the 8th he still had lead in the ninth. I am so sick of seeing marmol blow games.

  • JulioZuleta

    This HAS to be it for Marmol.

  • Kyle

    I want to sit back and think right now about where we’d be if the Padres hadn’t criminally underrated Rizzo.

    Oh well. Samardzija start tomorrow is a great shot to have a .500 road trip.

    • BT

      So bad moves are theo/hoyer’s fault, good moves are because opposing GM’s are dumb? Certainly fits a narrative…

      • Kyle

        It’s easy to fit the narrative when you’re the one writing it.

      • JulioZuleta

        Hah, so true BT.

  • http://Bleachernation.com Ramy16

    Marmol needs to go! Bring in Rondon.. What do have to loose? We have to find out what we have!

  • fromthemitten

    wow looks like Carlos is about as popular with Cubs fans as Rahm is with teachers

    • MichiganGoat


    • JulioZuleta

      You can broaden that to all Chicagoans.

  • Koyie Hill Sucks

    Really dissapointed in the top of the lineup in the 8th, that is where the game was lost, hey had a chance to put it away and they didn’t…

  • Jason

    Un-be-lievable. I had a gut feeling that bases loaded no outs opportunity spoiled would come back and bite them in the ass. Infuriating.

  • nkniacc13

    Just think Marmol shouldn’t have been in the game bases loaded 0 outs and don’t score.

  • cubchymyst

    The melt down the last two innings was awful. It seems like batters are back to just sitting on Marmol fastball.

  • http://deleted Mr. Gonzo

    LOUD NOISES!!!!!!

    • Vulcan


  • cubfanincardinalland

    Great point, the Cubs blow a 4 run lead in the final two innings and your best relief pitcher doesn’t get in the game?
    All I can do at this point is just laugh about Marmol, it is at the point of being ridiculous. This is the one big mistake that Theo and Jed have made. I mean you had the guy traded, and you expect it to be a positive situation? Marmol knows they didn’t want him. Something needs to be done, and promptly, because this kind of thing ruins the spirit of young ball players. Marmol is a bridge to the failures of the past, time to turn the page and move on. Get what you can for him if anything, or release him, it is a destructive thing on a team that is on the upswing.

  • Roger Roper

    I can live with Mt. Fuji giving up three runs. We still had the lead. I can’t live with a coach bringing IT back out there especially to the heart of the Braves lineup. I’m going to say Sveum can’t be this stupid! Nope it’s got to be coming from Theo and Jed. Well where ever it came from it sucks as a fan to watch, and it will show in the attendance at Wrigley.

  • Brian Peters

    Marmol knows he’s public enemy one, right?

  • http://Bleachernation Loyal100more

    I promise to embrace ANY Expiriment at closer… Just as long as we can close the book on the marmol Expiriment! Seriously there are some great.possibilities in our existing bullpen… Let’s try ANYTHING new, that would suggest that we tried and it’s over with the marmol late inning drama.

  • morgan

    Players who should get booed at Wrigley, Marmol, Sveum, Dejesus, for all being worthless to start the season

    • morgan

      and ending the cubs hope to start the season

    • @cubsfantroy

      Sorry, but that is the whole team, not just them. #sadbuttrue

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