Momma said there’d be days like this.

Carlos Villanueva had a very solid debut against a quality lineup. His stuff didn’t look overly impressive, but he didn’t make many mistakes, and he was mostly in the zone (and it was a tight zone for him, too). The Cubs’ bats kind of woke up … not that it mattered.

If you’re like me, you’re at least as frustrated with the top half of the 8th inning as you are with the bottom of the 8th or the 9th. The Cubs loaded the bases with nobody out in the top of the 8th, and brought the top of the order up … then scored none. Remember this, if you didn’t already chant it: no lead is too big. 5-1? That’s nothing. Foot on the gas, boot to the neck, whatever your metaphor of choice.

The Braves immediately slapped Kyuji Fujikawa around in the bottom of the 8th, and Carlos Marmol gave up a couple homers to the Upton brothers to lose it.

It makes me sick to my freaking stomach that I don’t get to highlight anything good …

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  • Zogie

    Well, the cubs showed everyone exactly how to lose a ball game. Carlos Villanueva pitched one heck of a game, but the bullpen forgot to show up today. Fujikawa just did not have his excellent command tonight, and when he did throw over the plate, he was hit hard. Marmol ended up just throwing lollipops over the plate in the 9th giving up homeruns to the Upton brothers. The offense started off well scoring 5 runs in 5 innings. Valbuena, Rizzo, Castillo, Schierholtz all did some damage. Clevenger also had a great AB in his pinch hit opportunity. Everything just fell apart in the 8th inning. The cubs had the bases loaded with none out and the top of the order failed to produce a run. On the other hand, the braves’ bottom of the order did the damage in the 8th with the bases loaded. A rather sad day to be a cubs fan. It was the best game the cubs played so far this season until the 8th inning.

    • ergocubs

      I’m tired of “even tempered” Sveum getting a pass on all these losses. He mismanaged a 5-1 lead so pathetically that ALL we had at the end of the game was Marmol. Second, when he had a 5-1 lead in the eighth, he kept playing his idiotic infield defense–which just gave the Braves an opening in the field. Every hit off Fujikawa would have been an easy out had the defense been played straight away. Sveum is stupid enough to think that the Braves were going to play offence the way the Cubs do: when down, swing for the fences! Well, as a team that is well coached, they didn’t hit for the fences–they hit to get runners on base, and put themselves in a position to win.

      • terencemann

        What are you talking about? Half those hits were straight up the middle.

        • Jeff

          I think he has a valid point on that Uggla at bat

        • Jeff

          meaning, the Braves are more disciplined and Uggla went the other way because that’s what the Cubs gave him, he go up there swinging for the fences and leave 3 on base in the top of the 8th.

  • Kevin

    At least we know to expect nothing this year. The 8th & 9th innings were just sad.

  • spearman

    wow! 6 hits, 5 runs & 2 BB in 1.2 IP That’s just bad. I need another beer.

  • Jeff

    Ha Ha, my new line…..” I don’t blame Marmol for the loss, I expected him to suck!!!”

    • Jp3

      I agree about Marmol, he would’ve let me down doing anything else. Ditto for sveum, I’m just curious if he’s the idiot that keeps running marmol out there or if there’s a higher power making that choice, I’d like to think Sveum can’t be this stupid

  • Tom A.

    Play a guy that is terrible and you will lose the spirit if the entire team. Best they can do now is just drop him. It has been so long since Marmol has done anything good that I can’t remember if he ever was good.

    Marmol is a loser and we need to start filling the roster with winners. Why is he still on this team !

    • Michael RIce

      SO long? Like the last half of last season.

      They are trying to get something, anything for him. There will reach a breaking point. It’s not there, yet.

      • Kyle

        I sincerely hope they aren’t throwing away real MLB games in a not-over season in the pursuit of some 24-year-old A-ball C- prospect in a trade.

        • Matty Ice

          No Kyle, they’re throwing away real MLB games in a not-over season in the pursuit of high draft pick.

          • Kyle

            That’s simultaneously better (at least aiming for something worthwhile) and worse (intentionally losing rather than merely hoping for good results that are unlikely).

            • BT

              Now they aren’t just unconcerned with winning, they are INTENTIONALLY losing? Simply astounding. (That’s quite a claim by the way, if it ever was borne out, the entire front office would be banned from baseball for life, but keep throwing it there, it gives you “cred”)

              It’s 3 games. The Cubs aren’t intentionally losing games, they are seeing if Marmol can work things out of this the same way he did last year. The guy who will supposedly take his place sucked just as bad as he did tonight. If this was happening in the middle of June you guys wouldn’t be swallowing your tongues, you’d just be ticked. Since these games make up the entire (tiny) sample size, it’s Armageddon.

              • Kyle

                You aren’t very good at reading. You should stop trying or get better or something, because you keep insisting I said things that I never said.

                • BT

                  My bad Kyle, you just HOPING they aren’t throwing games, not suggesting they are. Some people would say that to imply they were actually doing it and of course, this is totally something that would be totally out of character from a guy like you. My bad for thinking you might have implied nefarious motives from this front office, as your previous two thousand posts show no history of bad will toward them. Clearly I pulled that out of left field.

                  • hansman1982

                    Just remember this:

                    Kyle never actually says anything, until he wants to claim to have said something.

                    • MichiganGoat

                      :) nah

                  • King Jeff

                    You are kind of ripping on Kyle for something that the Ice guy above him said.

              • gutshot5820

                No team will ever intentionally lose a game, but a front office can put the team in the best possible position to lose.

      • Tom A.

        Huh ? Marmol good last season ??? The guy had 20 walks in 30 innings pitched the second half of last season when Cubs went 30 and 51. Pressure was off, which was when he is at his best (still not good !). My statements stand — Marmol is terrible and his badness likely affects the team . I bet when he is traded or released nobody will think the Cubs are a worse baseball team. He is unreliable and scares everyone who watches the Cubs hoping that they can protect a lead in the 9th.

        In my family, we joke about his line — always does three of four things (1) gets one strike-out, (2) gives a walk, (3) gives up a hit and (4) gives up a run.

  • Dying Quail

    What possible trade value is he (Marmol) building for himself? Trade him now before he’s worth nothing. I’ll take a good equipment manager at this point.

    • BT

      He’s worth nothing right now. The whole point is to try to build UP his value.

      • Mrp

        How much higher do you expect his value to get after the string of saves he put together last seasone? Wouldn’t the offseason have been our best chance to move him? Sunk cost, lets move on.

        • BT

          If we are battling for the pennant and he is still costing us games, I’ll be upset. Right now, cutting him does us no good, hanging on to him gives us a 1 percent chance of a return on investment.

        • Michael RIce

          They had a deal in place for Haren. That deal was nixed due to haren’s health issues. THat is how much he could still rbing if he can put up a run of just a small amount of time.

          Where this team is at, right now, it is worth the small chance he does it.

        • Tom A.

          I totally agree with Mrp ! Sunk cost and time to move on !

    • Kygavin

      half eaten Kit-Kat… and I dont even like Kit-Kats like that

  • Jamie Weiss

    If Sveum uses Marmol to try and close a game again, he’s showing his starting pitchers, and the rest of the team for that matter, that he doesn’t give a crap about winning.

  • Jimmy James

    That sucked and blew……

  • #1lahairfan

    I don’t think any team will want to trade for Marmol now.

  • #1lahairfan

    Should have bought Camp or at least Rondon in.

  • Ramy16

    Hope Shark can get us back to .500… We need a win bad.. Thank god the Brewers come to town! Ramirez is on Dl along with Braun.. Braun is listed day to day but still.. We can take advantage of this

    • Jeff

      Braun will be in the line-up, he got a shot tonight, wink wink 😉

    • spearman

      I’m scared Sveum will let him pitch 8-9 innings a pop and burn him out!

  • Kevin

    Who can we target to pick in the 2014 draft?

    • Kyle

      Whoever is left after Houston and Miami pick, at best. No matter how bad we get, we aren’t catching them in the draft pick standings.

  • Ramy16

    A closer Kevin.. Lol

  • Don

    How high does Marmol’s ERA need to get before they cut him? Use someone else (Camp or Russell) to close. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this out. Cut Marmol!

  • morgan

    and how long are they going to keep thinking that Ian stewart will come back healthy and produce, cant we please get a legit 3rd baseman, the braves have 2 better than the cubs bums and I would think half the teams do as well

  • John

    The Cubs have just signed Joe Borowski. He is expected to be called up on monday

  • adam

    Still think they should have traded him to the angels even with dan harens sucky back. It would have been better than this crap.

    • Mrp

      Yes sir! Quite frankly I’d take a used tampon for Marmol at this point.

  • Jeff

    I’d take a 40lb over weight out of shape Borowski over Marmol any day.

  • corey costello

    Man, fucking Marmol. Seen enough yet Sveum?

  • 5412


    You know what really pisses me off? The implication that Marmol is our guy, even with the string he ran last fall. Cub fans are not stupid, we know the game. I personally feel the implication that the team can pretend that nothing is wrong is an insult to our intelligence.

    I agree with those who think Marmol should have been dumped for anything at the end of the year. He is not part of the future, never was, and should be just as gone as all the others like Dempster etc.


  • Gcheezpuff

    Clearly Marmol is Jed & Theo’s insurance that the Cubs finish last and end up with the first pick in the draft…. Just incase the team they built ends up being good before they are ready.

  • Ramy16

    I agree Cory.. If he comes in the 9th on Monday I hope the wrigley faithful boo the piss out of him!!!

  • Kyle

    I’m not going to be blame people if Marmol gets booed in his first appearance at Wrigley, but it’s not like we have any reason to believe the guy isn’t trying his best.

    It’d be cool if we were the kind of fans who cheered him when he makes that first home appearance, and then he strikes out the side to justify a support. That’d be a cool moment.

    At least wait until something goes wrong in that game before you boo him.

    • Tom A.

      His best is no longer major league good enough. He knows it too ! He should retire !

    • Ron

      You are right.

    • Patrick W

      Could not agree more. I do not understand booing a guy before he’s done anything in the game. I will be there Monday and I will not boo anybody.

  • Jeff

    I’ve come up for a use for Carlos Marmol! If we enter the 7th inning down by more than 5 runs, we can pitch Marmol for the rest of the game and say the arms in the bullpen. Don’t really care if he throws 3 innings a game 3 days in a row and hurts his arm.

    My sacrificial Lamb we call Marmol.

    • Jeff

      that was “save’

  • Kyle

    Whoever put “try to put fastballs on the edge of the zone with two strikes on power hitters” in The Cubs Way should probably ask for everyone’s copy back so he can make some revisions.

  • MVR

    Well that short leash Marmol should be right in front of Sveum’s face! Cut the damn lease and send him to AA – we don’t want him here in Iowa (AAA)!! He has no value anymore – it shows up as losses for Cubs. All the other team wants us to keep him so we keep losing!! DUH!!!

  • Ron

    I think i should take the blame for this one. I was repainting my kitchen (fixing a disaster) took a break to watch the game. When i turned the tv on the Cubs had the bases loaded nobody out. The rest well…sorry guys. At least TWC was camping and missed it.

  • Jason

    I’m starting to hate Marmol more than I did Kevin Gregg. And that guy absolutely sucked.

    • Vulcan

      oh god dont remind me of kevin gregg. hated that guy

  • Kevin

    Tanking for a better pick in the draft is a crapshoot. Baseball’s draft is not an exact science.

    Percentage of MLB draft picks that reach the majors:

    Round 1 66%
    Round 2 49%
    Rounds 3-5 32%
    Rounds 6-10 20%
    Rounds 11-20 11%
    Rounds 21 – 40 7%

  • NCMoss

    My brain imploded…