kameron loe brewersNow this is a bullpen move worth discussing. Apologies to Kevin Gregg. Not that this is a *huge* move.

Today, the Chicago Cubs claimed right-handed reliever Kameron Loe off of waivers from the Seattle Mariners. To make room for Loe on the 40-man roster, the Cubs placed catcher Steve Clevenger (oblique) on the 60-day disabled list.

Loe, 31, couldn’t quite break out with the Rangers early in his career, and departed for Japan in 2009. He returned a year later, and became a quality arm in the Milwaukee bullpen. After a down 2012 season – 4.61 ERA, 1.434 WHIP, 90 ERA+ – Loe caught on with the Mariners this Spring, but became expendable when they added Aaron Harang late last week.

Loe isn’t a stud, but he’s been very steady over the last three years, with a K-rate solidly over 7.0 per 9, and a BB-rate solidly below 3.0 per 9. Most of his “down” 2012 season is attributable to an increased HR rate, which could normalize over time. He’s also a huge, hulking dude – 6’8″ and 250 lbs – for whatever that’s worth.

That is all to say that Loe is probably a guy worthy of a bullpen spot, and I can see why the Cubs would be willing to take a flyer on him.

Given that they’ve used a 40-man roster spot on him, we could actually see him in the pen relatively soon, depending on whether the Cubs really want Rafel Dolis filling Kyuji Fujikawa’s abdicated roster spot. Loe is probably a guy the Cubs see potential rebound value in, and want to see what he can do over the next few months.

Or he’s a roster stash, and will head to AAA Iowa. There wasn’t anyone else immediately needing a 40-man spot, and, since Clevenger is obviously going to be out for a while, there was no reason not to make this move.

  • Kyle

    Six HRs allowed in 6.2 IP this year? That’s amazing.

    • Jp3

      Yeah I mentioned that HR total earlier, I think Prince Fielder is probably going to call him to throw BB to him in the HR derby. He’ll probably just tell him to throw just like he would during a regular game

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  • Jed Jam Band

    I like it. It might mean that I won’t have to watch Dolis pitch.

    • Cedlandrum

      I really don’t understand this line of thinking. So if a guy struggles as a rookie, then he will never be good? Dolis has as high of a ceiling as almost any reliever the Cubs have in their system. He can get wild, but he is working on a new delivery that is more repeatable. If he can smooth that out with a mid/high 90’s fastball that has a ton of movement, watch out.

      • JulioZuleta

        Agreed. I’d be willing to say that Dolis has a brighter future than almost everyone else in the pen, except Russell and maybe, maybe Fujikawa. I’d rather have him in there than Shawn Camp. His voodoo magic from the first half of last year could only last so long. He had absolutely nothing yesterday. He looked like a AA longman.

  • waittilthisyear

    BIG NATE BABY. there have been some posters, who will remain unnamed, who have had a lot of doubts about nate (we need to come up w/some nicknames for these new guys). how long til he gets some love?

    • Drew7

      I’ve always been on board with the signing, but we should probably wait a little longer than 2 weeks before we start calling Blue Blood out :)

  • willis

    Yay a rebound candidate! They always work out in Chicago…er, wait a second.

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      Rebound candidates are, by definition, a low probability move. But you don’t have to search very far to find ones that have worked. Hell, the last cast-off bullpen guy the Cubs grabbed from the Mariners – Shawn Camp – worked out pretty well.

  • Mike

    Gregg, now Loe. How about we just sign Roger Clemens to a major league deal, while we’re signing has-beens and guys who think they belong in the majors, but can’t cut it anymore. What’s funny to me about all of this, is that we are actually wasting a 40 man roster spot on Loe. Yeah, he could bounce back. Um, I just don’t see that happening. We have plenty of AAAA arms in AAA right now that could be on the 40-man as well. I guess when you are desparate for pitching, you sink pretty Loe.

  • Die hard

    I am sure there is madness to Theos method or vice versa but I can’t figure it out

  • Mike

    Anyone notice how Buster Posey just kinda looks at Clevenger in excruciating pain at the end of yesterday’s game, and he still just walks out to his pitcher to congratulate him? He couldn’t even stop, for 5 seconds, and say, he, are you ok? I know the Cubs’ trainer was on his way out, but, I mean, man, really? Maybe if Clevenger had blood spewing out of him, then maybe Posey would have stopped for a moment to see what was wrong.

    • Diesel

      That’s because the giants and all of their fans are big pieces of excrement

  • JR

    So maybe Vizcaino in return for Maholm wasn’t as great as a deal as it seemed at the time. Maholm has been absolutely dominant for the Braves.

    • Kyle

      Meh. It was a deal that made sense for both teams. It wasn’t a robbery of the Braves, but it improved the Cubs.

      • JR

        I guess. I just remember thinking that was a trade the Cubs won big at the time. I don’t think that anymore.. Maholm might be the best free agent pitcher next yr. the ways he’s pitching.

        • Bric

          I’m never on board with trading for an injured player. It’s like the Carfax commercial- just show me the medical records, or buying a broken TV cheap because you think you can fix it. But I guess that helps explain why the Braves are 10 and 1 and the Cubs are 4 and 7. Once again though I’m probably the lone voice in the wilderness.

        • YourResidentJag

          I totally agree. I really hate to compare players, but I just have to in this case. Maholm looks like he’s taken the progression that Lilly made after joining the Cubs back in 2007. Meh, says Kyle, I think we should have kept him. Besides, maybe we’ll be trading Garza to the Braves this year anyway.

          • Kygavin

            Maholm is a FA after this year (which doesnt help the Cubs) Viz is under their control for awhile and was a top 25ish prospect who never would have been on the block the year before. Huge chance for the Cubs to buy low for a guy who would have left after this year anyway

            • YourResidentJag

              Unless, Maholm’s guy you extend with the kind of contract you gave Jackson. I agree with Goldstein who thinks Vizcaino is a reliever more than a SP. If he’s right, not a good trade.

              • DarthHater

                Cubs signed Jackson to 4 years at age 29. Maholm will be 31 when he’s a free agent. Signing a pitcher through age 35 is riskier than signing him through age 33. Not sure that 4/52 at age 29 is a deal the current FO would do.

                However, I tend to agree with you that if Vizcaino ends up as only a reliever, then it was not a very helpful trade.

                • YourResidentJag

                  Yeah, it’s risker. But, and maybe you or someone can help here, do SP show the same regression with age as offensive players do? I know this example doesn’t apply to a SP like Shark.

                  • DarthHater

                    It’s a good question and I don;t know the answer. I suspect it depends on the type of pitcher – i.e. power guys probably lose power and drop of more than guys like, say, Jamie Moyer. πŸ˜‰

                    I also wonder if a pitcher who manages to be largely uninjured to age 31 might actually have better prospects of remaining productive longer at the end of his career.

                    • DarthHater

                      *drop off more

  • Dan

    I don’t know I’am kind of high on Loe

    • Internet Random

      “I’am kind of high”

      I never would’ve guessed.

      • DarthHater

        I guess that makes you low on getting high. πŸ˜‰

        • Internet Random


  • ReiCow

    “He’s also a huge, hulking dude – 6’8β€³ and 250 lbs” – *shew* We have someone to protect the Cubs from Carlos Quentin!


  • Die hard

    LaTroy Hawkins available

  • Dan

    wow do not know about you guys but I kept seeing double play written all over the 8 th a cub walking with bases loaded whew !!

    • DarthHater

      Dude, did you predict 45 minutes ago what just happened?

  • therealPattyP

    Kameron Loe is quite possibly the worst non Cub reliever in the world.

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  • nkniacc13

    The iowa bullpen isn’t doing very well and as we have seen the CHC bullpen is struggling right now as well. So the signed another low cost flier that may or may not help the cubs and who knows depending on how he performs could he be a throw in at the deadline.

  • Edwin

    I remember Loe being decent againts RHB, but insanely terrible against LHB. ROOGY?

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