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2013 mlb draftRandom bits of information in this post-Draft phase that might be of note to you …

  • The Chicago Cubs drafted 40 players from Thursday through Saturday. You can see the recap from Day One’s action here. Day Two is here. And Day Three is here.
  • Of those 40 players, 29 were college or junior college players, and just 11 were high schoolers. The Cubs didn’t take a high schooler until the 9th round (OF Charcer Burks). Their first high school pitcher didn’t come until the 12th round (RHP Trevor Clifton).
  • Of the first 15 players drafted, just four were positional players (3B Kris Bryant first, OF Jacob Hannemann third, OF Charcer Burks ninth, and C Jordan Hankins eleventh). A full 10 of those 15 were college pitchers, and 9 of those 10 were righties.
  • The Cubs’ slot values for their top ten picks are: $6,708,400, $1,361,900, $736,200, $477,300, $357,400, $267,600, $200,400, $159,400, $148,900, and $139,000. The Cubs’ strategy was pretty clearly to try and save a little under slot with picks two and three (LHP Rob Zastryzny and OF Jacob Hannemann) so that they could go slightly over slot with a handful of college pitchers who slipped in the Draft (and then an even smaller handful of high school talents that they took late). We’ll see if it works out, and the success of the strategy may largely depend on how much first round pick Kris Bryant requires to sign. If the Cubs can save just a few hundred thousand off of his allotted slot, they’ll be in pretty good shape to make a run at virtually everyone they selected (keep in mind, the Cubs can go over their total bonus pool by 5% without losing any draft picks – that means they’ve effectively already got an extra $500,000ish to play with). I’ll be keeping an eye on this as the signing information rolls in over the coming weeks.
  • The deadline to sign draft picks is 4pm CT on July 12, just before the All-Star Game. College seniors are not subject to this deadline and can sign at any time up until the next Draft.
  • The Cubs will not sign all of their draft picks. Signing anywhere from 30 to 35 picks would be considered a solid success (unless, of course, the five you don’t sign are the five best players). Last year the Cubs signed just 29 of their 42 selections. Most of those who didn’t sign were upside high schoolers who wanted to take their chances at college. It makes you wonder if that’s at least part of the reason the Cubs went college-heavy this time around. Keep in mind, though, that the 2012 draft wasn’t a failure: the Cubs signed all 20 of their top 20 selections.
  • As players from the Draft sign, they will head to Mesa, Arizona, which is essentially the Cubs’ low-level minor league base of operations. Not only is Mesa home to the Cubs’ Spring Training, it is also home to minor league Spring Training, extended Spring Training, rookie ball, instructional ball, and the Arizona Fall League. It’s a year-round Cubs hub, and it’s the first place young players go to become acclimated to pro life and the Cubs organization.
  • From there, some draftees will head out to short season Low-A ball in Boise, or will play in the Arizona Rookie League. Some will even head up higher in the organizational chain, depending on age and ability. The Northwest League begins play this Friday, June 14, and continues through early September. The Arizona Rookie League runs from June 20 through September 1.
  • Many of the pitchers have already thrown a great deal of innings this season and will not pitch much more this year. Don’t take it as a bad sign if a guy throws only a handful of innings in Arizona.
  • Because there is an influx of a bunch of new players around this time of year, you see a fair bit of organizational turnover. Players who never quite clicked or who have shown that they don’t have the potential to contribute meaningfully down the line will be let go. Others will be promoted up the ladder not only because they are ready, but also to make room for the youngsters taking their spots below them. It’s not unusual to see a great deal of promotion/demotion/release activity in June.
  • MichiganGoat

    This year the carousel of player moves will be fun to watch and discuss here since it marks a full year between drafts where the BN community has been uber aware of prospects and the minor leagues. Thank you Luke (and Brett for making the minors part of our obsession), your insight and daily updates have made us all aware and observant of all things below Chicago. As players are cut that we remember (especially anyone drafted last year) we will be more prepared to discuss and obsess. Because of BN most of us are aware of more than 5 propects. Great work you two keep it up.

  • Idaho Razorback

    Of those 40 players, 19 were college or junior college players, and just 11 were high schoolers. The Cubs didn’t take a high schooler until the 12th round (RHP Trevor Clifton).

    So where did the other 10 come from?

    • MichiganGoat

      After the 12th round

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      Math was not my friend today. Thanks.

  • North Side Irish

    What about undrafted free agents? When can they start signing? I know the Cubs picked up a few last season after the draft and Sickels posted a list of intriguing options he was surprised were available.

    • cms0101

      I believe those guys are available immediately.

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      I seem to recall the Cubs signing UFAs almost immediately. Those discussions are definitely already happening.

      • ncsujuri

        Any affect on the pool etc. of signing an undrafted FA? Not likely that someone who is really worth big $$ is actually available but are they also subject to the $100K thing that the guys from round 11-40 are subject to?

        • MikeW

          Yeah. Any UDFA signings over 100K (not overly likely – but it happened last year with a guy the D-Backs liked), come out of your bonus budget.

          • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

            Bingo. If a UFA gets even $100K, the Cubs must love him.

  • http://cubsdailyrecaps.blogspot.com Jason P

    It’ll be interesting to see who gets promoted. I’m guessing they’ve got to promote Pierce Johnson and probably Matt Szczur along with possibly Jae-Hoon Ha and Justin Bour. From Kane County, unless they feel Almora’s ready, maybe Rademacher gets bumped up?

    • MichiganGoat

      I hope they leave Almora at KC for the year let him get repitition at the same level for one year, then start him in Daytona and consider moving him to AA middle of next year if he continues to look good. No need to rush him this year.

    • Jed Jam Band

      Pierce Johnson will be bumped up from Kane County, as he is slightly old for the level and is doing a nice job. He’s the most obvious candidate from that level. Also, Soler will be promoted from Daytona to Tennessee.

    • cms0101

      Szczur probably gets the bump. I’d love to see Alcantara move up too, but I don’t think they want to rush him, despite his success in Tennessee. Ha and Bour are just about to return from injury. Kyle Hendricks to Iowa doesn’t seem like a stretch. I’m guessing they’ll get a few more weeks in Tenn. Soler, Geiger, and Baez appear to be the most ready to move up to Tenn, but I suspect Soler goes before the other two. From Kane Co., Johnson and Vogelbach seem like good candidates for a bump. I don’t think they’ll move Almora just yet. Maybe in 2 months, toward the end of the minor league season. Possible Rock Shoulders. I’m sure I’m forgetting a few pitchers.

      • http://cubsdailyrecaps.blogspot.com Jason P

        I’m not so sure about Baez. He’s had some problems with his approach this year that need to be corrected before he moves higher. Shoulders was on fire to start the year, but he’s cooled off, so I’m guessing he stays put. Ha is coming off an injury, but he’s been at AA a while, and a Bour promotion would be purely to make room for someone else, maybe Geiger.

  • ChicagoMike702

    Isn’t 9th rounder Charcer Burks a HS player?

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      Yeah – thanks, guys. I meant to talk about Burks and Clifton separately.

  • http://Bleachernation Lou Brock

    Correction Brett cubs took Charcer Burks OF from HS in Houston in the 9th round.

  • http://Yahoo shelby menge

    How many draft picks of 2013 have the chjicago cubs signed so far?

  • Patrick G

    Will Bryant go to Arizona or straight to Kane County or Daytone?

    • JB88

      You have to imagine that the Cubs will at least on-board him at Arizona. Of course, a lot of that will depend on how soon he is signed.

      • MichiganGoat

        I’m certain a base was agreed to (something between the 2nd & 3rd slot money) plus whatever is left from the signing pool. Hence he won’t sign until that figure is decided upon.

    • MichiganGoat

      I think everyone reports to AZ for at least for a couple of weeks to go through orientation/evaluation before being assigned. It really comes down to when he signs which I’m certain he will be one of the last since Boras will want to get every last dollar abailable from the signing pool and that number isn’t finalized until we sign everyone else.

      • cms0101

        Agreed. He’ll be in Az when he signs. From there I would expect he’ll make a stop in Boise. Most of the guys signed last season played at least a few games in Boise before they went up to Peoria. It’s not out of the realm of possibility that they send him to Kane County, but also keep in mind they have a plan in place for Candelario, which also requires he get innings at 3rd base. I could see Bryant playing the rest of the season in Boise, then skipping over Candelario next year, and maybe starting out in Daytona. He’s older and is more advanced than Candelario, but it doesn’t make sense to move Candelario up now, as he’s not quite lighting the sky on fire in Kane County. Since they drafted so many pitchers, I could see some of those guys starting in Kane Co. They just don’t have the rotation space in AZ and Boise to house them all. Plus you’ve still got the guys from last year’s draft that are hanging in AZ.

  • Tommy

    According to Cubs.com, the Cubs didn’t sign Joshua Conway, their 4th round pick last year, which means they signed19 of their top 20 picks. Is this accurate, or did this Conway kid end up signing with us? Can you verify, Brett?

    • North Side Irish

      He signed and got injured pitching on a muddy mound in Arizona…

    • http://Bleachernation Lou Brock

      Conway signed and is currently on 60 day DL due to arm injury suffered a few weeks ago.

    • Tommy

      nevermind, I was reading it wrong. He did sign.

    • Dynastyin2017

      Josh Conway has a broken arm he suffered in the Cubs extended spring training this year. So he did, in fact, sign.

  • http://Yahoo shelby menge

    Do you think kris bryant will sign soon?

    • TWC

      Do you think 2013 Cubs Chicago Cubs # number 1 draft pick Kris Bryant will be signed soon by the 2013 Chicago Cubs as their #1 draft pick?

      • Jimbo

        Perfect.

      • DarthHater

        No, I think that 2013 Chicago Cubs # number 1 draft pick Kris Bryant’s agent, Scott Boras, will have 2013 Chicago Cubs # number 1 draft pick Kris Bryant wait as long as possible before signing with the 2013 Chicago Cubs.

    • Patrick G

      Not too soon. Think Boras will try to get as much money as he can before finally signing, just like goat said previously

      • Jim

        I disagree there. I would think that the Cubs were already working numbers before they decided between Bryant and Gray. Bryant also said that he was ready to start facing MLB pitchers right away. So I don’t really see a hold out there for money. I think a deal was close to in place during the draft and a signing should come soon.

  • Michael

    Interesting read on Feldman and the return on him if we choose to flip him!

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/06/trade-candidate-scott-feldman.html

  • http://Yahoo shelby menge

    How many draft picks will chicago cubs will sign from this class of 2013

    • cms0101

      The over/under for me is 34. There are a handful of HS picks that I don’t think will sign. But I would expect most of the college pitchers to sign.

  • Honey nut Sorianos

    What do you all think the organization top 10 are?

    1) Almora
    2) Baez
    3)Bryant
    4) Soler
    5) Johnson

    • http://bleachernation.com someday…2015?

      Your top 5 looks good to me. I would have the next 5 as…
      6. Alcantara
      7. Vizcaino
      8. Lake
      9. Vogelbach
      10. Hendricks

      • Shane McConnell

        So what happened to Brett Jackson being one of our top prospects?

        • Cubbie Blues

          He can’t get his bat to make enough contact with the ball. This is highly detrimental to one’s offensive skill set.

          • Shane McConnell

            I saw that .238 BA… He is almost 26 starting to think bust.

        • Kevin B

          What happened is that simply the past few years the Cubs have drafted better prospects then Brett Jackson. The Cubs drafted Baez #9, Almora #6 and Bryant #2. They should be better then Jackson who was picked around #23-25

    • Joepoe321

      I would have Baez at te too because of the value of his position then soler at 2 because he is at a higher level 3. Bryant and then 4. Almora….idk why but I’m just not a big fan of almora :(

  • Cheryl

    As Goat says, the next few weeks will be interesting. What’s the possibility of Bryant going to AAA? Part of the agreement with him may be a fast track to the big leagues and Sveum said something about him moving up rapidly, I believe. What would really be surprising would be a brief stint in the majors as a September call-up. Any chance of that?

    • Edwin

      0 possibility. For either scenerio.

    • Honey nut Sorianos

      Jason McCloud seems to think he will move fast also, but…. He compared him to Baez needing a full season in the minors. His interview on WGN suggested he may start in AZ and the go to Tennessee. Who knows hopefully we see Bryant with the big club as a September call up in 2014. That will be a stretch though.

      • cms0101

        McCleod said maybe he could even get to Tennessee, but he was talking about Bryant climbing his way there, not going straight from AZ to Tenn. They’re not going to rush him. Just like they did with Rizzo, they will take their time, evaluate him at each level, and move him up as he earns it. I can’t see Bryant much farther than Kane County by the end of the season. Next year, I’d be happy if he made it to AA. If all goes well, he could be contending for the ML in 2015.

    • Dynastyin2017

      Why waste a spot on the 40 man roster. Do what Seattle did with Zunino (very similar college bats), start him in Boise/Kane and if he crushes it, move him to Daytona/Tennesee. If he adjust well, give him a cup of coffee in Sept 2014.

  • Honey nut Sorianos

    Who would be the next 5?

  • Chad

    I think Bryant could move quickly too. If he stays at 3B and he his hitting the way we all expect him too, I would think 2nd half of 2014 is a good prediction.

    • Ivy Walls

      wishful thinking? He hasn’t faced one professional pitcher nor even signed on as a professional.

      • Kyle

        So? He’s been intensely observed by professional scouts and graded very highly on his abilities.

        • cms0101

          If he gets to Wrigley sometime next season, great. I think 2015 is more realistic.

        • Cheryl

          Kyle, When do you think he’ll hit the big club?

          • BluBlud

            I don’t think Bryant is slated anywhere yet, but I don’t think it’s impossible for him to be in Chicago by Sepember, 2014. I don’t see him starting anywhere below Daytona, unless its just a short time. He’ll go to Arizona for a few weeks, then maybe get a few games at Boise to get adjusted to live ball action, and then get his permenant assignment. I suspect it’ll be Daytona at the least and Tennessee at the most. I don’t really see him at KC or Iowa.

            • cms0101

              I’ll have to respectfully disagree, to some extent. I think he doesn’t see past Kane County this season, then starts in Daytona next year. In 2014, he’ll make it to Tennessee. Obviously, if he just goes on a tear they won’t be able to keep him down. But I think they’re going to want to see him perform and work his way up. Ideally, he forces them to call him up in September 2014. I just think a more realistic arrival date would be in 2015 sometime.

              • BluBlud

                I don’t think there is anyway he sees KC. That’s a step down for most top college players in my opinion. Check out the roster, you don’t see to many top college players on that roster. Pierce Johnson is the only one. Most odf the top talent on that roster are either High School kids or international signees.

                • cms0101

                  Pierce Johnson is the only top college player the Cubs have from last year’s draft. Who on Daytona’s roster was a college stud last year? Which college players on Daytona’s roster skipped Peoria or Kane County completely? Bruno skipped Kane Co. this year, but started in Boise all of last season. Carhart played in AZ last year, then went to Daytona. Saunders started in AZ, went to Peoria, then ended up with Daytona. They all started in Daytona this season. I believe this front office will start Bryant out in Boise, move him to Kane Co. if he hits, and then the season will end before they have a chance to move him up. Believe me, I hope he moves as quickly as possible. The precedent just doesn’t say that, in my opinion. I’m also factoring in when he signs and gets started. If he signed tomorrow and was in AZ getting at bats, maybe he could push the timetable up.

                  • Blublud

                    I think you are 100% wrong. If Bruno is good enough not to play at KC, then what the hell makes you think they’ll send Bryant there. He’s better then anyone down there right now, and that includes Almora, who should be moving to Daytona sooner rather then later himself, and he’s a kid compared to Bryant. Bryant is way to advanced for KC. The only question after Arizona, and possibly a week in Boise to adjust is Daytona or Tennessee.

                    • cms0101

                      Right out of college, Bruno played the entire season in Boise. He didn’t skip all the levels and go to Daytona. They skipped him up this season because of all the young international guys they wanted to send to Kane County. I don’t expect Bryant is going to sign extremely quickly. He’s going to need a little time in Arizona. Then I expect he’ll go to Boise. If he dominates in Boise, and they want to move him up, I could see a scenario where he goes to Daytona because they won’t move Candelario up. But that seems to be a big if in my mind. I fully agree though, next season, he’ll probably make it to Tennessee, probably with a stop in Daytona, and he’ll effectively jump over Candelario. I just think it won’t happen in the partial season. There is no precedence that says otherwise with the two draft classes this FO has produced thus far. There are NO 2012 draft class players even in Tennessee even right now. I know Bryant is a better class of hitter than anyone drafted last season. I hope he moves up quickly. I just don’t think they’re going to rush him in 2013. He’ll make big jumps in 2014, after a full spring under their control.

          • Kyle

            Best guess? Cup of coffee in 2014, full-time regular in 2015 after the requisite service time deadlines are passed.

  • Ivy Walls

    Everything dovetails off of the the 41st, 75th and 108th draft pick signings, which equals $2,575,400. Trevor Clifton already stated he signed for 3rd round slot money (somewhere between $736,000 and $475,000 minus $100,000 allotment for 11th round and under that don’t count against allotment, plus an additional $527,825 over their 2013 money that won’t affect next year’s draft position—whew)

    Therefore if Clifton signed for $626,000 (plus the $100K that does not count taking the number to the highest 3rd round count) than if the Cubs can sign picks 2-3-4 for $2M the Cubs are within $25K of getting 4 for 3 if Clifton is of a talent of a 3rd rounder.

    Strategy aside, it will be interesting to see how it actually pans out. If Zastryzny and Hanneman were overslot by a round or more this equals almost $1M add in Skulina possibly you get there for certain, it would mean the Cubs would still have money left over, where that money goes either up to Bryant and afterward the remaining targets in rounds 5 thru 10.

  • ssckelley

    The Cubs drafted 42 players last year, don’t forget the 2 compensation picks. Only 13 of them failed to sign.

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      I count 14 that didn’t sign. If memory serves, Pentecost signed but did not pass his physical.

      • ssckelley

        Ok, I am going by the Cubs website who incorrectly list Tyler Bremer as unsigned for some reason.

      • ssckelley

        Brett, you fixed the 40 to 42 but you left the amount signed last year at 26. I am pretty sure the Cubs signed 29 of their 42 draft picks last year. Tyler Bremer played in rookie and in Boise last year and the Cubs list him as unsigned.

        • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

          You’re right – Bremer was the issue. He was a senior who didn’t sign by the deadline, but must have signed later on. Good catch. Thanks.

  • North Side Irish

    Jason Parks ‏@ProfessorParks 42m
    The #Cubs could have four prospects ranked in the top 20 in the game when the Baseball Prospectus mid-season top 50 is released. #could

    • hansman1982

      Bryant needs to sign and Baez needs to get hot.

      GETERDONE

    • Ivy Walls

      Lt Wetblanket says so what. It is only part one of a three step process, first is acquiring raw talent, second is developing that talent to make it to the show, third is that developed talent becoming MLB superior performers.

      • hansman1982

        I’d tweak it:

        1. Acquire talent
        2. Develop talent to peak value
        3. Use that talent to build a damn good baseball team

        The difference being that you use the minor leaguers to get good major leaguers, even if that means you trade them away.

  • North Side Irish

    Wayne Randazzo ‏@WayneRandazzo 6m
    Sorry to hear about the passing of longtime @peoriachiefs owner Pete Vonachen today. A MiLB legend and certainly well known to #Cubs fans.

    An old friend of Harry Caray’s and a big part of the Cubs former minor league affiliate…

  • http://Bleachernation Lou Brock

    Interesting note on Cubs round 11 pick Jordan Hankins from Austin Peay . Cubs listed him as C when choice was made, but this kid has not caught in the last two years. He has mostly played 2B & 3B exclusively. Maybe the Cubs have a super utility role like Clevenger C/3B/1B, for this guy.

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      The Cubs are apparently going to try and make him into a catcher.

  • Shane McConnell

    Is it possible that the cubs go after Hunter Pence and Jacoby Ellsbury in the offseason. Or possibly looking at Tim Lincecum.

  • North Side Irish

    J.J. Cooper from BA was at Kane County over the weekend and posted a write up about Vogelbach today. Also had a note on Almora…

    http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/prospect-notebook-dan-vogelbach-gets-best-of-former-teammate/

  • Austin

    I’m good friends with David Gardner’s mom and he has signed his paper work and flying out to Mesa tomorrow for the physical to make it official. I didn’t ask if he took slot, under, or over but I’m guessing he took at slot value which is 200k for him. They are hoping he can get on to a team as soon as possible this year and he is actually a little taller than 6’0″. Not the 5’11″ they announced him at.

  • http://Yahoo shelby menge

    So has kris bryant signed his contract yet?

    • Jp3

      AWESOME! He’s good at playing baseball

  • http://Yahoo shelby menge

    Has kris bryant signed yet?

    • DarthHater

      You mean 2013 Chicago Cubs #1 draft pick Kris Bryant?

    • Bric

      There were rumors that a hand shake kind of deal may’ve already happened before he was picked but not to my knowledge has anyone officially said that.

  • http://Yahoo shelby menge

    Is Kris bryant getting closer to sign with the chicago cubs?

    • Cubbie Blues

      You sir, are losing your touch.

  • Die hard

    Would hope that Cubs set some rules for these future Wrigley citizens– no weight lifting; no ball between Oct 1 and Feb 1; lose 15 lbs in off season thru healthy eating ; and no banned substances

  • carklos

    Sandberg – getting close. sick of looking at that sour puss of Sverum

  • carklos

    Hes got these guys hanging there heads. handles the guys like misbehaving kids. If anyone needs a kick in the rear is Sevrum. A good job for him is sitting along side the Hawk. Shades of hawks side kick ( the crazy boston outfielder)

    • Die hard

      In Sveum defense Theo threw him in the deep end but didn’t ask if he can float let alone swim so blame Theo for misjudging capabilities which is worrisome for entire ship

      • Jp3

        Sandberg unfortunately will never coach an inning one Chicago… I would love for him to but they’ve made it abundantly clear he’s not an option.

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