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Carlos Marmol bummedIn one fell swoop, the Chicago Cubs today severed ties (mostly) with two of the most polarizing players on the roster in recent memory. Declining reliever Carlos Marmol was designated for assignment, and AAA third baseman Ian Stewart was released.

Marmol is in the final year of an improvident extension inked under the Jim Hendry regime, and has been struggling all season long. His stay as the closer this year lasted but a couple weeks, and he has found only moderate success even in low leverage situations. Without the ability to trade him for anything resembling value, the Cubs today elected to clear up a roster spot by DFA’ing Marmol. The team will now have 10 days to trade, release, or waive Marmol. It’s possible a minor deal can be worked out with the Cubs receiving virtually nothing in return. It’s possible he’ll be released. It’s possible he’ll be waived, but there’s no chance he’ll be claimed with his contract. Either way, it looks like Marmol’s days with the Cubs, after some procedural steps, are over.

I’ll have much more on Marmol as the DFA process plays out. After the smoke has cleared, I’ll also have some thoughts on his days with the Cubs, which were mostly brighter than they were dark.

As for Stewart, the release marks the end of an awkward saga that saw Stewart unable to play for the big team this year, and unable to perform at AAA. He griped about the organization’s moves on Twitter, was suspended, and has now been released. His 10-game, without pay suspension was upheld under appeal, so the Cubs will save about $100,000 in the process. He’ll likely now latch on with another organization.

In Marmol’s place, the Cubs have called up outfielder Brian Bogusevic, who has been raking at AAA Iowa, and will now be a big lefty bat off of the bench – at least until David DeJesus is ready to return.

  • ETS

    My guess is yankees claim marmol off waivers and he becomes good again.

    • demz

      The Cubs would be very lucky for that to happen.

      • MichiganGoat

        That would be a great thing to happen for everybody. Marmol needs a new team the Yankees always need something… maybe we can save a few pennies and Marmol can try things out in another league.

        • cub4life

          isn’t Larry R still the pitching coach over there in NYY?

          • cub4life

            nevermind, scroll down and i would have seen it.

    • http://waittilnextyear.net Nate Corbitt

      Is Larry Rothschild still with the Yankees? That might not be so far fetched.

      • wasssssup

        He is.

    • bbmoney

      There’s no reason for them to claim him though. Just let him clear waivers (since no one is going to pay him $5M for the rest of the year), then sign him to a FA deal once he opts for free agency.

      • BT

        technically there is a reason for them to claim him, in that someone behind them could claim him or the Cubs could trade him and he might not make it to free agency. But those are extreme longshots.

  • Dale Jr

    Harry, saying holy cow folks I can’t believe it!!

  • Grant

    Can Bogusevic play any infield? Seems depth there is awfully thin.

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Luke

      First base is all I’m aware of.

    • MichiganGoat

      Trades they are a coming, we won’t have 6 OF for long I think is what this move is saying.

      • Jp3

        I agree, something in the works for sure.

      • terencemann

        To me, it looks like they’re just giving him a chance to show what he can do before other pieces start moving.

        • http://www.bleachernation.com Luke

          This looks likely to me.

          • MichiganGoat

            agreed but they know a couple of OF will be gone in about a month

            • hansman1982

              Could be that trade partners are interested in him and want to see him in big league action.

  • Cheryl

    Whatever happens with them this is for the best.

  • MichiganGoat

    Sucks that all we saved on Stewart is 100k + whatever minor league contract he gets. I really wanted him to suffer more… but at least he will be gone and we can check in on his antics as he realizes nobody really wants him on their MLB roster

  • Rich H

    Can I stop taking my blood pressure pills now?

    • Scott

      You should stay on them until the end of the season.

      • Dan

        I truly laughed on this one.

  • Jp3

    “He’ll likely now latch on with another organization.” Great line Brett, like a leach or a parasite I assume.

  • Patrick W.

    I’m looking forward to your analysis on Marmol, Brett. It’s good to remember he was a big contributor for many seasons.

    • forlines

      It really is hard to remember how dominant he once was, and not too long ago btw… needless to say, I won’t miss him

      • Grant

        Perhaps my memory’s a bit hazy, but I feel like even when he was dominant that Marmol danced on the line with his control and OBA. Yes, he’d get you out of the inning, but it was rarely 1-2-3, and almost always included a BB or HBP.

        • MichiganGoat

          2010 was pure domination (from Wikipedia)

          “2010 Mármol won the DHL Delivery Man Award for the month of September.[6] He finished the 2010 campaign with 16.0 strikeouts averaged per nine innings (138 in 77 2⁄3 innings), breaking the record for highest K/9 ratio by a pitcher with at least 50 innings pitched, previously held by Éric Gagné’s 14.9 mark over his 2003 season. His 138 K’s are a franchise record for a relief pitcher.”

          it was a crazy season and Marmol was just one in a long line of MLB Closers that have one amazing season, get a long term contract, and then fall apart. But 2010 has got to be in the discussion of best closer seasons ever. 16 K/9 is crazy good that slider was disgusting and would actually break for a strike if the batter decided to lay off it. It was absolutely unhittable.

      • JJ

        Marmol was effective this year in non-save situations, not dominant, but effective.

  • Matt Murton

    The Colvin-LeMahieu for Stewart-Weathers has proven to be the worst deal by the new regime, without question…

    • http://www.viewfromthebleachers.com Norm

      And if that’s the worst thing they do, they’ll be quite successful.

      • Tom A.

        Agree Colvin AAA player at best and LeMahieu has no pop in bat even in Colorado.

        • Cedlandrum

          Tyler Colvin was actually pretty good last year OPS+ of 114. He got sent to AAA this year because he had a slow spring and they have a glut of outfielders. He did pretty well in AAA too, including taking 31 walks in 226 PA’s.

          LeMahieu would be a perfect player for the Cubs right now as he can play all 4 infield positions if he had to and he has played pretty well this year.

          I was pissed when they did the trade and I don’t feel any different now. They have spent a fair bit of money to fill 3rd and RF over the last two years and they had two “Assets” for league minimum in the fold already. End of the day is it the worst trade ever? No, but it was still a horrible trade.

          • Cedlandrum

            Two of Colvins 3 years in the bigs he has been a fair amount above average. He is below again this year but only in 40 AB’s so it is too early to say much yet. But irregardless he hasn’t shown to be a AAA player in his brief career unless there are better then avg. players there.

            • MichiganGoat

              we could argue this all day as to what exactly makes for an average player, he’s only had a WAR above 2 once (2.1 in 2012) and yes he’s had a above average OPS for two of his years but is he a quality starter that a team would be willing to give a decent contract to? He has a career as a 4th OF, starter on a bad/mediore team. But to believe he is well above average and deserves a everyday starting job is a stretch. Yeah the trade did not work for the Cubs but they really did not lose anything. If this is the worst trade this FO ever makes then I’m happy happy happy.

              • Cedlandrum

                A 2-3 War is considered a solid starter not a AAA player.

              • Tom A.

                Who would we bump from the roster of 25 this year to add Colvin or LeMahieu ? How about in 2014 or 2015 ?

                This year, Soriano, DeJesus, Hairston, Sweeney, Schierholtz, Bogusevic ALL BETTER !

                Almora, Soler and Jackson likely ALL BETTER in future, when the guys would be 27+ and 30+ years old.

                Colvin is 27/28 years old now and he did not fit. What the hey, Campana was even better than these two guys and he did not make roster. So was Dave Sappelt or Reed Johnson or even Joe Mather.

                I again agree with Norm “And if that’s the worst thing they do, they’ll be quite successful.”

            • Kygavin

              His oWAR for his career is .9 and his d WAR is -.4…. Which means he has contributed half a win in his 371 career games

              • Kyle

                You can’t add them together that way, it doesn’t work. It essentially doubles the theoretical replacement value that the player’s production is being compared against.

                • Kygavin

                  Ya youre right thats my bad… but it does show that he is below average offensively and below replacement level defensively

                • Grant

                  Would it be more (arithmetically) correct to average the two numbers (in which case we’re talking about a quarter of a win rather than half a win)?

          • ssckelley

            Go look at the home/away splits on Colvin and then come back and tell me how great he is.

            • MichiganGoat

              this too Colorado can add some OPS to just about any player

              • Cedlandrum

                Didn’t help Stewart. Highest OPS + was 102. Basically most Rockies home and away splits are going to look lopsided. Not always but even some of Cargo’s years are funny looking. Basically Colvin was just a touch better last year then 2010.

            • Cedlandrum

              I didn’t say he was great. I said he was pretty good, I also said he has shown he isn’t a AAA player. Wow I was really heaping on the praise there.

              • hansman1982

                DAMN YOU AND YOUR IRRATIONAL TYLER COLVIN LOVE!!!!

          • hansman1982

            “He did pretty well in AAA too, including taking 31 walks in 226 PA’s.”

            He hasn’t been able to translate that into a decent MLB walk rate.

            • Cedlandrum

              This is true, but he only has 40 AB’s this year and he never walked in the minors before. It will be interesting to see if he can be a bit more patient this year. It was just a bit eye popping.

        • Rebuilding

          As Goat said – the FO has done fine if this is their “worst trade”. They tried to fill a then gaping hole at 3b with a guy who had shown flashes of power for two mediocreand easily replaceable players. Sweeney and Valbuena are better players than Colvin and LeMahieu. It didn’t work out and nothing of value was lost

      • ssckelley

        I was thinking the same thing

    • willis

      When the decision was made not to retain Ramirez, they went for talent at 3rd where they could find it. I don’t fault this move that much. Re-signing him this year? Completely a waste of time, resources, money, and stress. That was dumb.

      • frank

        My guess is that they would not have re-signed had there been better options available–there just were not (m)any decent third basemen available.

    • MichiganGoat

      It would only be the worst move ever if the players we traded were anything more than a couple of replacement level players. This isn’t the Lou Brock deal, there have been much worse deals in the history of the Cubs. It was a bad gamble but we didn’t have much in the pot to lose anyway.

    • Cubbie Blues

      Obligatory Hamilton for $50K trade snark.

      • MichiganGoat

        well that wasn’t really a trade, we chose for the Reds and they gave us a small cash for the pick. But yeah even that was a worse “move” than the Stewart trade. Hell losing Joe Carter and Rafael Palermo for a good trade return is worse than the Ian Stewart trade.

        • Jp3

          Not this again, we had the 1st pick. The Reds traded him for Edison Volquez a year later. Worst move by Hendry I think but there are a lot of close 2nds unfortunately.

      • bbmoney

        Also wasn’t the current FO.

        • MichiganGoat

          point taken but if the Stewart trade is the worse one THIS FO has made then that is just another reason to be confident that this FO knows what they are doing.

          • Jp3

            I agree, I’m sure they learned from it too. I’m sure they learn from their good acquisitions and the bad ones. I’m actually excited to see what new prospects we have in the system come August 1st. Even if there aren’t any big names, we probably get some type of high upside/high risk guys like last year to obsess over.

      • hansman1982

        grumble

      • cubzforlife

        Marmol and his five carot earings are finally gone. Damn, I learned to really hate that guy. Next up is Ryan Braun. Different team different reasons but hate none the less.

    • http://www.hookersorcake.com Hookers or Cake

      Yeah and on paper Stewart probably had the most talent/highest ceiling. A young solid LH defender at 3B with pop! Unfortunately it looks like he had the least amount of desire. The deal was in no way a WTF. It made sense. Colvin is a 5th OF and DJ is a dime a dozen 2B.
      Stewart will get another shot this season.

  • Kyle

    Hooray. Not that the replacements will be any better.

    • http://cubsdailyrecaps.blogspot.com Jason P

      According to WAR, they should be at least 0.6 wins better.

  • willis

    Marmol was awesome way back when, but his time is up and this is the right move. I’m glad to see Parker staying on board and getting a chance to show what he has.

    As far as Stewart, good riddance. He’s bad a baseball and a POS on top of it. I’m glad the FO admitted a bad mistake and moved on from it. Go suck for someone else.

  • Cubbie Blues

    Brett, Marmol wasn’t only “designed for assignment” he was also designated.

    • Chris Lattier

      lol

  • MichiganGoat

    Okay with this move time to check in on what is left of the Hendry era:
    1-Soriano
    2-Castro
    3-Barney (I think he was brought in under Hendry)

    Anyone else I’m missing? I’m not counting MiLB players I’m sure there is still plenty. How about the bullpen?

    It really shows that the FO is quickly restructuring this entire team is just a couple of years, if they can move Soriano it would just about complete the de-hendrying of the Cubs.

    • Spriggs

      Parker.

      • MichiganGoat

        I really hate myself forgetting him… was he converted to a starter in Hendry’s last year?

        • Cedlandrum

          Nope always been a reliever

    • Spriggs

      Russell

    • cms0101

      Welington Castillo. Garza. Russell.

    • cms0101

      Shark

    • Kyle

      Do you mean actually broke into the regular MLB lineup under Hendry, or was simply acquired by Hendry?

      • MichiganGoat

        more the former… any farm system will have a ton of previous FO players still around.

    • Spriggs

      Shark

    • Featherstone

      Shark and maybe Gregg if he counts.

    • BluBlud

      22 of the 40 players currently on the 40 man roster are from Hendry’s era.

      • BluBlud

        and 7 players on the 25 man roster.

    • willis

      Castillo?

    • MichiganGoat

      see I knew that I’d forget a handful: so Garza looks like he’s leaving, Shark and Castillo will be interesting to watch what this FO decides to do with them. Maybe this is just standard turnover, new FO changes but it seems like this FO has really gotten rid of a ton of Hendry players.

    • http://. Sven-Erik312

      Great point, MG. Last season I was suggesting to trade Castro to the AL as a DH/utility infielder. I think it would still make sense. I believe that if Castro had come up in this FO, they would have kept him in AAA longer.

  • Kygavin

    As much as Marmol has been hated the last few seasons, he was still awesome for his peak years. All this shows is that long, expensive extensions for RP are never a good idea.

  • BluBlud

    So after all the discussion about which reliever will be sent down, Marmol is the guy. This took big balls for the Fo to do this, but I like it. I am a be loyal to Cubs players type of guy, but this move makes me respect the FO even more. It was easily the right move.

    As for Ian stewart, I haven’t really commmented in the past on his situation, but right now, I just glad the whole thing is over. I supported the trade for him, I wish him success in the future, but good riddance.

  • Tom A.

    Good luck Carlos and thanks !

    Go screw yourself Ian, you worthless example of a selfish athlete with no skills !!!

    I sure do feel better.

  • jh03

    I asked Jason Parks what the separator between Almora and Baez was and this was his response:

    “Not much. I think Baez has special tools, the kind that superstars have. Correa is a very nice player with a very high ceiling, but Baez is the home run of the two. Correa, despite being much younger, is actually the safer bet (in my opinion) to reach his potential.”

    I’m assuming he just meant Almora where he said Correa? lol.

    • BluBlud

      I agree with everything he said there. So once again, how does this equal to Correa…..I mean Almora, being the betterr prospect.

      • jh03

        Once again, it’s becasue Almora has the higher floor along with a high ceiling.

        • BluBlud

          MLB.com says they have the same hit stick, Baez has more power, the run the same(no way) Baez has the stronger arm, and Almora is the better fielder. They also rank Almora future as a 6, Baez as a 7. They are not even on the same plane.

          • jh03

            First off, mlb.com is not a credible source for prospect rankings.

            Secondly, think what you want. I was just informing everybody what the expert said about it. I’m not going to argue with you about who’s better when scouts are split. It’s asinine for either one of us to think we know who the better prospect is.

      • Cubbie Blues

        “safer bet (in my opinion) to reach his potential”

      • jh03

        Parks also says that there isn’t much of a difference between 11 and 16, so the difference between 15 and 17 is virtually nothing.

        • BluBlud

          The difference is that Baez is one of the best prospect in baseball and i do not understand how he is ranked in the teens. He has to be the most under appreciated prospects in all of baseball. i have no problem with Almora’s ranking, but Baez should be in the top 10 at least.

          • jh03

            Do you watch every single prospect in baseball? Do you evaluate every single players tools and abilities? No.

            This list is Parks’ opinions along with multiple trusted scouts inputs. I’m going to take what they have to say and trust that it’s pretty freaking accurate, until I’m moved to do otherwise.

            • jh03

              Baez’s ceiling plays in the top 10, but his floor scares the crap out of a lot of guys. Hence, he lands at 17. Makes perfect sense.

            • BluBlud

              I have no problem with Parks list either. He can rank them however he see fit. I just stating that it’s my opinion that his opinon is wrong.That’s pretty much how it works. I never said shark was STUPID for ranking Almora ahead of Baez, just that from my perspective, I don’t understand it.

              And Yes, I do not just follow Cubs prospects. I am a Cubs fan, but I am a bhuge baseball fan also. I follow all the top prospect in baseball, and a whole lot of college players also. I have also seen a lot of players play in High school. The one you would be most familiar with is Dan Vogelbach. But that’s just the baseball fan in me.

              • jh03

                Here ya go. Guy asked who have the highest ceilings in the game. Parks answer: “Byron Buxton, Oscar Taveras, Javier Baez, Archie Bradley, Jorge Alfaro (hard to name five)”

                So Baez OBVIOUSLY falls because of his floor. 17 seems pretty reasonable.

                • Kygavin

                  Surprised to see Alfaro on this list

              • jh03

                Another Baez question: (pretty much says) Why is Lindor ahead of Baez?

                Answer: “Baez has the ceiling, but Lindor has the floor. He [Lindor] is the superior defensive player and has a much better all-around approach to the game.”

          • Drew7

            I think you’re underestimating the size of the red flag that is Baez’s K-rate.

            • hansman1982

              Combined with the career 4.4% BB rate.

              • BluBlud

                right, and Almora’s 2% walk rate blow Baez’s out the roof because he is so good.

                • hansman1982

                  It is starting to become curious because it contradicts the scouting reports. At the same time, the K rates are in two entirely different realms.

                  • Drew7

                    I’m gonna wait a bit longer than 261 professional PA’s before I start distrusting scouting reports.

                    • hansman1982

                      Same here, which is why I said it was curious, the 0 walks in 60+ PA (I wonder what the statistical chances of that just happening are) really stand out to me as someone who is not being challenged at all.

                • http://www.shadowsofwrigley.com T C

                  So then you look at their K rates next to each other. Almora’s suggests that he isn’t walking much because he’s not getting deep enough into counts to walk OR strikeout, a sign of a guy who is not challenged by where he’s at. Up until recently, Baez’s K rate was gigantic. Not going to plug my own site, but I wrote a piece that showed he was basically the only top 100 prospect since rankings started to have such an extreme K%-BB%, and the ones who got close to him all busted or sucked huge ass in their time in the bigs. Baez’s talent is huge, but he’s got the floor of a guy to never get out of AA.

                  • hansman1982

                    I just plugged it for you below…

                  • hansman1982

                    Also, I just looked up Brett Jackson’s A+ K rate…20.2%. Yikes.

                    • Drew7

                      And that was probably coupled with a double-digit BB-rate.

                    • BluBlud

                      If Adam Dunn was a SS, he would probably be a First Ballot HOF.

                    • hansman1982

                      “And that was probably coupled with a double-digit BB-rate.”

                      Rk-A+ BB rate: 13.2
                      Rk-A+ K rate: 21.2

                      “If Adam Dunn was a SS, he would probably be a First Ballot HOF.”

                      I think this is better suited in one of our discussions about Vogelbach being ranked so low.

          • ssckelley

            Your love fest for Baez is getting creepy.

            • Blublud

              You are the only one calling it that. I just think the guy is one hell of a ball player.

          • Kygavin

            Let me know when that walk rate becomes manageable and we can talk about top 10

          • Rebuilding

            I don’t see how you can argue with any of the Top 10 on that list. If it was just based on highest ceiling then I could see your point, but out of the Top 17 I would say they Baez has the greatest chance to never be a productive major league player (just talking probabilities – I love Baez)

            • BluBlud

              The fact is that Baez has 1 of the top 2 or 3 Ceilings in all of the minor leagues. Out of that list of prospect, how many can you look at and say this guy could be the best player in baseball one day. I’m not saying Baez will be, just that he has the talent to be. There are few, if any, on that list that has a better chance then Baez.

              • hansman1982

                If we are talking in actual percentage points, actually, there probably is. His low floor severely limits the liklihood of him hitting his ceiling.

                • jh03

                  Exactly why Baez falls a tiny bit in these rankings. If he can show improvements in K% and BB% he will be a top 10 guy next time. The higher he raises his floor the higher he goes on the list.

                  Right now, Almora has a better chance of being a superstar than Baez does because Almora has a higher chance of reaching his ceiling.

                  Baez has all the potential in the world. We all understand that. His floor kills him in rankings though.

                  • BluBlud

                    JH03, the thing is, Almora does not have the ceiling of a super star. He has the ceiling ofa guy who might hit .280, might hit 10-15 HR, might steal 10-15 bases and will play solid defense. In other, he is a slightly improved version of Darwin Barney in CF. That’s actually not a knock, because that is a very good ball player, but not close to a Super star.

                    • jh03

                      Darwin Barney wishes he could hit .280.

                      My point was, Almora is much more likely to reach his potential and play in the MLB. Which gives him a higher chance than Baez, at this time, because Baez’s floor is so so low.

                      Nobody disagrees with you about Baez’s upside. We’re just trying to get it across to you that these player’s floor mean a whole lot too.

                    • http://www.shadowsofwrigley.com T C

                      This is patently false. If we’re talking *pure* ceiling, Almora’s sits at 20 HRs, 20 SB, .310 avg, OK on base skills, great baserunning skills, and gold glove (1-2 dWAR) defense in center. That’s not improved Darwin Barney, that’s a freakin stud, a 5-6 win player in peak seasons.

                    • BluBlud

                      Darwin barney hit .276 in 2011 in almost 600 PA’s.

                      Giving Almora 15 HR is modest, giving him 20 is absolutely insain. Almora does not have any top speed, he is an ok runner. I doubt the guy ever steals 20 bases. And i do think it’s possible he could hit .310, but that would be a 1 or 2 season better then his norm type of thing, then a .310 hitter every year.

                      I would damn near bet my life that Almora would never hit .310 with 20 HR and 20 SB. I’m not going to bet my life, because I would love to see him turn into that type of player, but i just don’t see it. I honestly still think he behind Soler in terms of prospects.

                    • http://www.shadowsofwrigley.com T C

                      Have you ever seen Almora play? His barrel-to-ball ability is tremendous. He may never have better-than-average raw power, but he’s going to square up so many pitches that his power is going to play up a full grade.

                      Baserunning =/= base stealing. He has very obvious instinctual advantages over most players, and that’s going to help him take extra bases, go 1st to 3rd, and do all the other little things so well that it wouldnt shock me to see his baserunning value at a full win in his peak seasons. Those same instincts are also what are going to allow him to be so great in centerfield, even as an average runner.

                      I really do hate to play the “you need to see him in person” card, but you really, really do to appreciate what he does. It’s extremely impressive.

                    • BluBlud

                      So basicly what you are saying is that Almora is Derek jeter in CF. I would love that, but there is no chance.

                    • MichiganGoat

                      See Blu how can we take any of this serious when you admitted that all the energy and discussion we had with you about Campana was really just a joke you stuck with. I think you are doing the same thing here just sticking with an argument for no other reason than to play.

                    • http://www.shadowsofwrigley.com T C

                      That’d be an awesome comp if Derek Jeter could play defense.

                • BluBlud

                  How low is his floor. I believe the gap in his ceiling and Almora’s Ceiling is much larger then the gap in his floor and Amlmora’s floor. I don’t see how people think Baez has a low floor. I clearly stated while he was striking out at “alarming” rates, that he was trying to hit a homerun on every pitch. I felt he was upset because he started so low after crushing ST. Now that he has settled down, once again, like I said he would before he ever did, you see the results. He wasn’t striking out on balls out of the zone, he was swinging through ball’s in the zone because he was trying to hit a HR. Now that he is taking the proper approach, you see the results.

          • hansman1982

            “The difference is that Baez is one of the best prospect in baseball …”

            Which is why he was ranked highly.

            • TWC

              For anyone who wants to argue, again, again, again, with Jay about the Baez/Almora rankings, just flip back a few months and look at the bazillion-comment-long chains about Tony Campana, or how Nate Schierholtz was the Worst. Signing. Ever.

              I’ll give Jay credit for admitting when he’s wrong, when it happens, but dude is hard core stubborn and will stick with his gut feeling regardless of — if not in spite of — anything you say.

              • hansman1982

                Ya, I really like beating my head against this wall…

                Right now the discussion is:

                Why is Baez ranked so low, he has an amazing ceiling!
                Because his floor is so low.
                But he could be a zooperstar!
                But he has these red flags.
                But that power and bat speed!
                His floor is really low.
                His ceiling!
                Floor
                CEILING

                • BluBlud

                  I get what you guys are saying about Ceilings vs Floors. I don’t disagree with that. The disagreement is that I don’t think Baez has a low floor. I do believe Almora has a better chance of reaching his potential, I just don’t believe his potential is all that much better then solid to good player with an occasional all-star selection. I think he is getting Theo’s firtst draft pick love, and Baez is getting Hendry’s last draft pick hate.

                  • hansman1982

                    And I would challenge you to find 5 MLB players, in all of history, who succeeded at the MLB level with the A+ BB/K split Baez has.

                    His floor truly is not making the bigs, at all. AA is going to be a huge challenge for him. If he can have a season of success in AA, there’s hope for him.

              • BluBlud

                Hey, I told you the Campana love was a storyline that I stuck to on purpose, I vary rarely believed anything I said about him. Give me a break. :)

                • TWC

                  Mmm-hmm. Retconning your comments. Awesome.

                • MichiganGoat

                  What! Okay know you’ve just lost all credibility. You were absolutely positively on the Scrappy train… Fine i dug your commitment but to now say you were just playing around with you Campy Love, instead of doing what you did before by admitting you were wrong and moving on. So now I’m just reading all of you comments and observations as a argumentative baiting joke. Man that disappoints.

                  • BluBlud

                    No, I didn’t say that, or mean to say it like that. I liked Campana and I truely did believe he deserved the chance. I was truely on his side. I talking about all the Angry post or the cutting Campana is the worse move the FO will ever make statements. Those were the comments I was talking about. As far as Campana being a decent player deserved a chance to start, I did believe that. and yes, it looks as if I’m wrong.

                    • DarthHater

                      You’ve made us all very sad. ;-)

                  • MichiganGoat

                    See Blu I’m still not sure what you believe or don’t believe in anymore. You go on and on with your “gut” when facts and reasons are clearly laid out. And now you bring up the fact that some of it was all a game.

                    • Blublud

                      Like I said, the Campana was a good player who deserved a chance stuff I really believed. The post DFA, I’m mad at the FO, biggest trade they’ll regret stuff is what I meant was a joke. I really did think Campana could be a good MLB player.

                    • Blublud

                      Also, I admitted that way back then, right after he was traded.

                    • Cubbie Blues

                      Campana could be a good MLB player, but even when he makes contact, he doesn’t have the power to hit it into the grass, he can’t play outfield and when he does get to the ball he can’t reach the cutoff man in the air.

                • DarthHater

                  [img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8249/8489339423_96509b2084_o.jpg[/img]

          • Dynastyin2017

            Don’t fret, Blublud, it has a lot to do with stats (even though Parks would deny it). Almora hasn’t struggled yet, Baez has. Almora is the only top prospect that has a plus defense tool.

            • Crockett

              Are we positive Soler isn’t a plus defender?

              • Dynastyin2017

                No. No I’m not. Just haven’t heard any of the ‘experts’ use that word to describe his defense. Plus arm I’ve heard.

          • Josh C.

            If the kid could learn to have plate selection he probably would be in the top 10 at least. That’s why everyone is so high on Profar, he just hits like a big leauger already. If Baez can learn to take a walk every now and then, I truly think it will be Castro moving to third and Baez at short, and be top 5 by next year.

      • davidalanu

        Probably because he’s the safer bet to reach his potential.

    • Spriggs

      reads like a response from one of my direct reports at work…

  • Vin23

    Boy, it sucks to have wasted $2 Mil on Stewart this year. The trade was meh, but the re-signing was worse, especially when you have a bullpen that is awful.
    Everyone who watched Stewart last year knew that it was dumb.

  • BD

    It’s pretty obvious Marmol will wind up on the Cardinals and win a Cy Young award as the most recent 30-game winner. Voo-doo magic.

    • OCCubFan

      Supported by Stewart hitting 50 HRs for the Cardinals and winning the MVP.

  • mudge

    Good moves. Now trade Sori and don’t be choosy.

    • Justin

      The only thing choosy about a Sori trade is Sori himself with his NTC. #weatherhastobenice #eastcoastteam #Sorisiscontentlosing

  • Cedlandrum

    Glad for Bogie to get the call up. Sad to see Marmol’s days with the Cubs end like this. He has been a very fun and terrifying player to watch over the years. Best of luck Marmolade.

  • Korean Goat

    Marmol has been good as a reliever of late inning but closer. I think it is too early. So sad news

  • RoughRiider

    I wish them both well. I would be amazed if another team signs Stewert before the off season. He hasn’t exactly ingratiated himself with MLB. I suppose the Rockies might sign him but I doubt it.

  • RizzoCastro

    They took his JOBBBB!!!!!!!!!! About damn time!!!!!

    • Scott

      Back to the pile.

      • RizzoCastro

        lol

  • JulioZuleta

    Paul Sullivan ‏@PWSullivan 18m
    Marmol knew the move was probably coming. His agent talked to Theo this weekend. Ready for a fresh start.

    I’m confused, I thought after Brett reported that someone overheard him saying something to this effect in a hotel lobby, he was appalled that he had been spied on and assured everyone that he wanted to be a Cub forever. Odd.

    • BluBlud

      I would assume that after you are released, you would be ready for a new start. Probably because you have no other choice but to be ready for a fresh start.

      • JulioZuleta

        I think that tweet suggests that his agent indicated to Theo this past weekend that he was ready for a fresh start.

        • BluBlud

          right, after he knew he would probably be DFA’d. I pretty sure Marmol seen this coming around last off-season when he was pretty much traded, only to have to come back. I sure if he had it his way, he would stay in Chicago forever, and be looking for an extension right now instead of a DFA. unfortunately, he didn’t pitch his way to one. there is nothing wrong with what he said in either of the cases. The spy incident or what he said this weekend.

          • Drew7

            “I pretty sure Marmol seen…”

            Saw

            • JulioZuleta

              Even in writing the misuse of “saw/seen” is like nails on a chalkboard. Weird.

    • DarthHater

      I’m shocked, shocked to find the odor of mendacity in this establishment.

      • JulioZuleta

        Good word, you don’t see a whole lot of “mendacity” these days.

        • DarthHater

          You may not see the word, but you see plenty of the thing.

          • JulioZuleta

            Yup

    • DarthHater

      That’s why it’s so very important that journalists seek confirmation from the subject of the story before going public – so that the subject of the story has a fair opportunity to lie about it.

      • JulioZuleta

        “Hey Carlos, we heard you said this. Did you actually say this? No? Ok, never mind then. We believe you.”

  • http://cubsdailyrecaps.blogspot.com Jason P

    Well that’s a relief. Now some other team can take a flyer on him and he’ll go ruin their games.

  • In Theo We Trust

    Watch the Cardinals claim him and he becomes and all star for the next 10 years with a 0.00 ERA.

  • Don

    Baez was drafted by Hendry.

  • Rich H

    Now that the story is written how do we remember Marmol? Do we remember the wipeout slider that was unhittable. The battles with control always made Cub fans antsy? Do we remember the shell of his former self that we have seen the last two years?

    I for one am going to remember the great runs in 2007-2010 that found him being an Allstar and actually getting votes for MVP. That is the Marmol I choose to remember because even after all the antacids that I have had to take the last 3 years when he was young and cheap he was AWESOME.

    When I look at what Marmol has become at age 30 I want to go find Lou Panella and Dusty Baker and break their arms like they obviously broke his.

    • http://vdcinc.biz 70’scub

      Agree, Marmol should be remembered for the great seasons he had for the Cubs, not the last two years. I hope he regains some bite on his breaking pitch and comes back to being able to extend his MLB career with another team. It was time for the FO to cut ties and they the FO are handling this situation with class. I remember Marmol always giving Max effort!!!! The Stewart situation not being able to make the Cub team, unprofessional conduct left the FO with no choice!

    • Rebuilding

      Yeah, I will always remember Marmol as the dominant set-up man (I realize he was also good in the closer’s role for a time). It was great to see him come in in the 7th with two on and none out and legitimately feel like he was going to strikeout the side. At his peak that slider may be one of the most devestating pitches in the history of the game – simply unhittable. Nothing to be ashamed about with his career. Unfortunately, much like Soriano he was measured to the terrible contract Hendry gave him.

      • MichiganGoat

        Again go look at 2010- he had one of the best years for a closer EVER. 16 K/9 is unworldly impressive.

        • hansman1982

          Record-breaking even.

        • Rebuilding

          Oh I agree. I just enjoyed watching him pitch in the 7th and 8th when he entered in almost impossible situations and just blew people away.It was a little less enjoyable for me when he helped create the almost impossible situations

    • MichiganGoat

      I don’t think any blame can go on Dusty or Lou for Marmol. He was just one in a long line of uber-dominate-for-one-year closer that can be found all over baseball. 2010 he was absolutely lights out and watching his slider break and hit a corner for a strike was one of the best pitches we might ever see. But closers will filthy stuff is just not sustainable (hell the idea of a true closer is nearly unsustainable for more than a two years). When you rely on a wicked breaking pitch to hit the corner repeatedly you’re asking for future troubles. How Dusty and Lou used him as nothing to do with this… it just couldn’t continue. The real issue is Hendry deciding to buy out the arbitration years of a reliever. Bullpen arms are just not very secure investments on any MLB team. What we have all learned here is DON’T SIGN RELIEVERS TO BIG CONTRACTS AFTER THEY JUST HAD THE BEST YEAR OF THEIR CAREER.

      • Rich H

        Led the league in appearances 2 strait years then the decline began so I do think Dusty and Panella have a lot to do with his demise. But I do agree on the idea that he was walking an edge. That edge just may have lasted a little longer if these guys didn’t get so religious about order in the back of the pen.

  • Tommy

    Good riddance to Stewart who seemed more interested in tweeting than working on his game. I hope most fans don’t put Marmol in the same category. Marmol was awesome for us when he was good, and even when he wasn’t good, he still gave it his best and never caused any issues with his attitude. I wish him well and hope he can rebound with another team some day (just not against the Cubs).

    Good luck, Carlos. Good riddance, Ian.

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