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carlos marmol yesWhen embattled Chicago Cubs reliever Carlos Marmol was designated for assignment last week, it seemed like simply the first stop on the way to Release Town. Sure, it gave the Cubs 10 days to release, waive, or trade Marmol, but a trade seemed a virtual impossibility given Marmol’s performance woes this year.

Well, a report from Bruce Levine shakes its fist at we of little faith. Two sources tell Levine that the Cubs are “closing in on a trade” that would send Marmol to the Dodgers.

Keep in mind, the return from the Dodgers – if this deal goes down – will simply be enough to buy them the first right to grab Marmol, since the Cubs otherwise would have released him (allowing him to sign with any team he wanted, rather than only the Dodgers). So there’s a teeny, tiny bit of value there, if the Dodgers think they can reclaim Marmol – and they do need bullpen help.

Levine adds that Marmol’s limited no-trade clause allows him to block deals to six teams, and that the Dodgers are one of those teams (makes sense, given that the Angels were also on the list, as we learned in the offseason). If Marmol believes he’ll be given a legitimate shot in Los Angeles to stick in the pen, I suspect he won’t block the deal.

We’ll keep our eyes on this one, but I’d still keep my hopes in check. There is no healthy Dan Haren on the other end of this trade.

UPDATE: Well, Peter Gammons seems to think this is happening, saying that Bruce Levine is “right again.”

UPDATE 2 (5:03pm CT): Jon Heyman confirms that the two teams have talked about Marmol, but there’s nothing official yet. He suspects the move might save the Cubs a little money, which is what you should be hoping for at this point.

UPDATE 3 (5:05pm CT): Carrie Muskat says the Cubs aren’t commenting.

UPDATE 4 (5:40pm CT): Patrick Mooney confirms that a deal is close, and that the Cubs won’t be getting anything but a little bit of salary relief.

UPDATE 5 (6:58pm CT): Dodgers.com writer Ken Gurnick says that if a deal goes through, the Cubs will be picking up “most, if not all” of the $5 million left on Marmol’s deal. He says the Cubs would be getting a player recently removed from the Dodgers’ roster – i.e., someone DFA’d like Marmol. In the last few days, the Dodgers have designed infielder Luis Cruz and reliever Matt Guerrier for assignment, so there’s your short list. They both fall into the maybe-not-even-worth-a-roster-spot category, which sounds about right. The Cubs might be figuring that, since each guy has had past success as a complementary piece, maybe they can take a hail mary at reclaiming some value in the next 30 days. It’s a stretch, obviously.

UPDATE 6 (8:10pm CT): Theo Epstein is on Dave Kaplan’s new show on WGN Radio tonight, and he just said that, yeah, a deal might be in the works involving Marmol and getting him a change of scenery. But, if it does happen, it isn’t going to be a significant deal.

  • Ed

    Marmol to the dodgers for ptbnl.

  • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

    It reminds me of 1926: seemingly washed up HOF Grover Cleveland goes to St. Louis as the Cubs floundered to 4th. But those resourceful Cards got a 39-yr old liquored up usually Cleveland to outduel those mighty Yankees.

    Could Marmol be the next Cub in the lore of Cubs to go somewhere and make an impact??? We shall hopefully get to see. (Note: Marmol is NOT Alexander’s pecker on Carlos’s best day.)

    • TWC

      ZOMG!!!!lol1!! This trade is way SO WORSE than Brock for Broglio! Cubz suck!!!1!

      • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

        It will be REAL funny if the Dodgers get to the World Series and Carlos does a George Frazier (NY in 1981). But I’d rather see him succeed – its a positive karma thing.

        • DarthHater

          Haven’t you been keeping up? The Dodgers will make Marmol a starter and he will win 15 games per year for the next 5 years. Die hardian guarantee.

          • Die hard

            Book it Danno!! Will be a Hawaii 5 yrs Oh!

            • DarthHater

              And once they have Marmol as a starter, they won’t need to worry about spending all that money on an extension for Kershaw! :-P

            • DarthHater

              Quit trying to sound young and hip, Die hard. ;-)

  • DarthHater

    @TommyBirch: #IowaCubs catcher/infielder Steve Clevenger just left the team clubhouse with his bags packed. #Cubs #PCL”

    • Rebuilding

      Hmmm…I wonder if he is heading to Oakland or somewhere else

      • DarthHater

        Hey, Brett! You got any connections stalking Clevenger??? ;-)

    • Carew

      My gut feeling is he’s being called up. I hope I’m right

    • North Side Irish

      Tommy Birch (@TommyBirch) tweeted at 5:45 PM on Mon, Jul 01, 2013:
      Clevenger said he’s been hurt and was sent to his hotel to await word in what he’ll do next. Not being called up. #IowaCubs #Cubs #PCL
      (https://twitter.com/TommyBirch/status/351833921345945600)

      • Rcleven

        Clevenger and Marmol to Dodgers? Would sweeten the pot and get a decent C prospect back.

  • DarthHater

    Could the Marmol trade include international draft pool money?

  • Rebuilding

    Unless I missed another move I assume this is to take Sweeney’s roster spot

  • http://Bleachernation Lou Brock

    My Dodger connection says Cubs asking for a AA LHP Michael Thomas , pretty decent relief pitcher with good control.

    • Voice of Reason

      My dodger connection says the cubs want at least puig and probably more. Given the flexibility of marmols contract this is certainly understandable.

      • Die hard

        Wouldn’t be touting a LA connection with NSA DEA IRS and FBI monitoring all communications … Wonder if they know if this Marmol rumor is fact or fiction ? Or in the HGTV lingo — Love It or List It

        • TWC

          You know, it’s crap comments like this that make me think you’re losing your touch. Less is more, kid.

          • Die hard

            You lost me at ” me think “…kid was flattering tho

            • TWC

              “You lost me at ” me think “”

              I don’t think anyone is surprised by that.

              • Internet Random

                Thinking is hard.

  • Keith cole

    Would be the cubs’ luck for marmol to return to ’10 all-star form when/if they trade him!

    • DarthHater

      I don’t think it would be bad luck if Marmol pitched well for his new team. He wasn’t going to get more chances in Chicago anyway, so no loss to us. And if he does well, it tells other teams that trading with Theojed can be worthwhile.

    • North Side Irish

      As long as Marmol isnt pitching in his 2013 form for the Cubs, its fine with me…

  • Michael

    I’d call up Junior Lake. The Cubs have finally wised up and have him playing 3rd at Iowa. Clevenger sucks. His best position is catcher, and we already have two. The Cubs could put Barney in a Feldman deal, move Valbuena to 2nd, put Lake at 3rd. We need to kick this rebuilding thing in high gear.

    • Steve124

      Any chance Navarro is involved in the deal? They need a backup catcher, which would make complete sense of Clevenger… This may get an actual prospect

    • Alex S.

      I like Lake, I do, but I wish to hell he’d take a few more walks. He came back this year and started so well, taking two in his first three games, but he’s only taken four since then while striking out 20% of the time…

    • Rcleven

      Please go back and look at Lakes numbers since being sent to AAA. Clearly not ready for the Major league club. He has cooled off quite a bit.

    • DarthHater

      No idea what “kick[ing] this rebuilding thing in high gear” means, but it sounds good to me.

  • Timmy

    I think the Cubs are trying to get rid of Marmol to free up cash to resign Milton Bradley.

    • DarthHater

      I thought they needed all their cash to build a Walmart in the bleachers?

      • Timmy

        under the scoreboard, not bleachers. and i think walmart was outbid by restoration hardware.

  • Die hard

    Dodgers need starters and Marmol was good starter in minors after career start as catcher where he had strong throw to 2B… Do the math …

    • DarthHater

      If the Dodgers are bold and creative, they will make Marmol his own personal catcher!

      • Rich H

        He may be the only one who can catch him. Well maybe not he probably doesn’t know where the ball is going either.

    • Rich H

      yep he is going to go 10 and 1 down the stretch and do the LA version of Rick Sutcliff. Way to call it Die hard.

      • Die hard

        As it was written … So shall it be… Now go forth young man and fleece your locks with your staff before the Darth wolves devour them

        • DarthHater

          [img]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4567980134_47562a5a75_m.jpg[/img]

  • Cedlandrum

    What do you make of the Clevenger deal Ace?

    • Die hard

      Sounds like another clever media deal blitz by the Theoster

  • Die hard

    Before you strangle yourself with your shorts there is nada on the lada trade blogs about this latest Theo ad blitz

    • Internet Random

      “nada on the lada”

      La-di-da-di, we like to party.
      We don’t cause trouble, we don’t bother nobody.

    • Rcleven

      From our very own.

      Justin Jabs ‏@justinjabs 3m

      Via some #ding #dings, @TommyBirch implies Clevenger joining LAD alongside Marmol? #Cubs http://bit.ly/19Qo0Ni

      • Rcleven

        Tommy Birch ‏@TommyBirch 1m

        @justinjabs simply a guess. I have absolutely no idea.

    • Carew

      What are you talking about? Come on, man

      • Rcleven

        Bags packed? My guess is Clevenger to LA.
        Jumped the gun. For that I am sorry. (Wishful thinking).
        Just not confirmed yet. (per second post)

        • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

          I was just assuming he’s hurt, and heading back to Arizona for rehab.

          • North Side Irish

            Tommy Birch Tweeted that Clevenger is injured and awaiting instructions…

          • Rcleven

            Has been hurt for a week now since the re-injury. Why wait a week for reassignment or not DL’ed again?

  • Timothy Scarbrough

    MLBTR speculates that the Cubs could recieve Matt Guerrier. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/guerrma02.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-www.typepad.com He certainly walks less guys then Marmol.

  • DocPeterWimsey

    I consider this strong evidence that the Giants have a sleeper agent in the Dodgers’ FO.

    • Carne Harris

      [img]http://i.imgur.com/o1WR99T.jpg[/img]

      • DarthWolf

        That does it. Your image posting privileges are suspended for 24 hours, Carne.

        • Carne Harris

          So Lasorda’s my undoing, just as the prophecy foretold.

  • iowacubs

    Mlb trade rumors says if deal is completed Cubs may get a guy who was DFA’ed…. I.e Matt Gueirra (spelling ??)

  • Timmy

    Why would we pay all of his salary to get rid of him for another DFAed player that we’d have to pay for? “Theo the Ineffective” is about to strike again.

    • Carew

      Much rather take a shot-in-the-dark player than a pitcher that almost single-handedly loses games

    • DarthWolf

      Anyone who expects this non-event to actually be of more than the slightest significance is an idiot, as is anyone who bases their assessment of a team’s FO on such trivialities.

      • baldtaxguy

        Every other scene has been cool, Why are we fighting?

    • Cyranojoe

      And the alternative is… he gets fully released, we pay ALL of his salary, some team other than the Dodgers grabs him, and the Dodgers don’t feel like our FO did them any favors. Awesome plan, man!

      • Timmy

        Much better that we pay all of his salary, and then all of the salary of a different washed up player that was already released?

        I don’t think Theo passed grade school math. He doesn’t add appropriate contracts well, and he takes on numerable small bad contracts that add up to one big bad contract.

  • Dale Jr

    Get this over with boys com on

  • EricR

    Clevenger isn’t hurt or being called up? Going to LA?

  • Timothy Scarbrough

    Luis Cruz went from a 105 OPS+ last year, to a -2 this year. Surely something didn’t go that wrong, there must be a great deal of negative variance there.

  • Rebuilding

    Good new from around the league: Gallardo is getting beat up tonight and the Kickham kid the Giants are pitching is also getting blasted

  • cubzforlife

    Marmol becomes Dennis Eckersley.

    • Rich H

      No Die Hardon has already said he is becoming Rick Suttcliff. He can not be both so one of you is wrong.

  • aCubsFan

    I don’t think the Dodger players were designed; more likely they were designated.

    • Carne Harris

      DESIGN ALL THE PLAYERS!!!1

    • Alex S.

      Actually, when people say the Dodgers are “Buying ALL THE PLAYERZ!!!!!” they are actually referring to the purchase of lab designed players. Yasiel Puig was made from the shards of one of Cliff Floyd’s bats, some rubber from Barry Bonds’ shoes, and one of Soriano’s teeth. It’s just not fair, man.

      • Timothy Scarbrough

        Why are we letting Cuba get the necessary ingredients to make allstar caliber MLB players?

        • Alex S.

          Well, the parts were stolen from Braun’s urine sample. That’s actually why he got away with it, because while it contained steroids, it also contained other ingredients which the test taker could not bear to admit he stole because, “Ew, he touched pee.”

  • Nate

    Let’s just trade Marmol for a bag of pretzels. Pretzels don’t walk batters or sabotage games.

  • cubmig

    wow…….one rumor about a potential Marmol trade and the speculation machine has gone out of control to churn out everything about nothing……patience grasshopper, patience.

    • Rich H

      It is the first trade of the year. Of course we are not waiting patiently. We want to to TRADE!

  • Alex S.

    As far as this update goes, I’m hoping it’s for Cruz. Unless the Dodgers are going to pay the remainder of their contracts (considering the Cubs are paying Marmol’s), then I’d say hell take both.

  • Rebuilding

    The Diamondbacks just placed Trevor Cahill on the 15 day DL with a hip problem. More pitching needs

    • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

      Well heres hoping they reconsider on Garza…

  • EvenBetterNewsV2.0

    Marmol to the Dodgers for July phone bill relief for the FO?

  • Jono

    I absolutely love reading about the possibilities of a Marmol exit. This is awesome. I can’t wait until the obsessive soriano trade speculation

  • North Side Irish

    Wittenmayer says Cubs will get $245k in salary relief. As long as they out it back into on field product…

  • YourResidentJag

    Theo’s currently on WGN….I’ll let Brett fill us in on particulars.

    • Die hard

      He should be on the phone making a real deal… Not on the radio pretending to ….hoping other GMs may be listening… It like a Boiler Room hyping penny stocks

      • DarthWolf

        What makes you think Jed isn’t on the phone, Brainiac.

        • YourResidentJag

          He’s not….didn’t you hear–while Theo’s on the phone, Jed’s in studio. Kaplan’s just not letting him talk. ;)

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