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Kris BryantJon Heyman, who has an unspoken close connection with Scott Boras’s camp, today reports that the Chicago Cubs are close to signing their top draft pick, San Diego third baseman Kris Bryant … who is represented by Boras. In other words, I tend to believe Heyman on this one.

With the signing deadline looming on Friday, this would be news we’ve long waited for. It will clarify how the Cubs are able to proceed with the rest of their spending (although, strictly speaking, it’s my guess that they’ve already got that all worked out).

Interestingly, Heyman reports that Bryant is set to receive a “record” signing bonus, which actually just means that he’ll receive the largest bonus in the new slotting system, with the young man picked ahead of Bryant this year – Mark Appel – currently holding the honor. The slot value for Bryant’s pick is sufficiently higher than Appel’s bonus that, as I’ve noted before, the Cubs can make Bryant the highest-paid player while still saving money under slot. That’s now what I expect to happen.

It’s a little bit of a surprise, given that Appel is also represented by Boras. While getting the biggest bonus for Bryant is a feather in the cap, isn’t not getting the top pick – and the top overall talent – the top bonus, like, the opposite of that? I really would have thought everyone would have agreed that a bonus just under what Appel received was appropriate (if not lower). The third pick, Jonathan Gray, didn’t even top $5 million.

In any event, hopefully this will be wrapped up soon, and Bryant can get his minor league career underway. Whatever Bryant gets, I believe the Cubs will have made certain not to exceed their bonus pool by more than 5% (as high as you can go without losing a future first rounder). I just hope that there was enough money leftover for later round over slot signings.

UPDATES: According to multiple reports (including Peter Gammons and Jim Callis), Bryant is getting slot from the Cubs, or just about $6.7 million. That is surprising for any number of reasons, and modestly disappointing (not for Bryant, who absolutely should have tried to get every dollar he can), if it proves to be accurate.

That said, it’s not that disappointing, especially if the Cubs already prepared for this with respect to their later round picks. The Cubs were about $200,000 over budget before Bryant signed because of over slots in rounds 2 through 10, and Bryant signing at slot will allow them to go over their total pool by about $500,000 without losing a draft pick. Take $200,000 of that away for the earlier round over slots, and you’ve got about $300,000 to spread around the later guys. Tyler Alamo was believed to be an over slot type, as well as Michael Wagner. Each has already signed. Trevor Clifton is believed to have agreed to a deal for “third round money,” which would be $500,000 to $600,000. It sure doesn’t seem like the Cubs can accommodate that if Bryant got slot, so, I guess we’ll see what happens – maybe he’ll end up taking less.

Let’s not lose sight of the fact that Bryant is a ridiculously awesome prospect, and, when he puts pen to paper, the Cubs’ system will get a further talent injection. This is all still pending a physical and the official officialness, but that’s expected soon.

  • JulioZuleta

    $6,708,400 is exactly slot. I think I might have said it was slightly over, and I know some people said it was over. It’s exact. But remember, they still “save” almost $350,000 due to the 5% allowance.

  • Mr. B. Patient

    Hate to rain on the parade, but what does it matter what he signed for. If I remember correctly, this same type of conversation happened with Almora last year. He signed over slot also. Does anyone care now? Does anyone even remember what he signed for? All Bryant needs to do is take the field, hit like a monster and get ready to be a great Cub player as soon as possible.

    • willis

      Yep. He’s a HUGE talent and now he’s officially the Cubs’ talent. He’s in. That’s what matters. Now get him on the field and let’s see what this kid has.

    • ssckelley

      Good point but I do not remember the Cubs sacrificing overslot players that they took later in the draft like they may be doing this year. I forget the exact number but I think only 14 of the 41 draft picks did not sign. Also keep in mind Almora was a HS senior and had more leverage than Bryant. Bryant had way more to lose going back to college for his senior year just to pick up an extra 500K.

      Cubs really needed catcher prospects and Alamo looked promising and Clifton was 3rd round talent. Perhaps there is something else going where the Cubs still get these players, I don’t know, but I can’t help but wonder about the FO’s negotiating stills at this point.

      • Kyle

        There was that HS outifelder that wanted $1m to buy out of his college commit that people got really stupidly excited about.

        • http://www.bleachernation.com Luke

          Yep. The FO got ripped very harshly by many people for not signing Almora for some absurdly low figure that would allow them to sign that other guy away from Vanderbilt.

          Rationality prevailed a day or two later.

          • ssckelley

            But this is a little different as I do not remember that guy ever having signed a contract. Although I bet the Cubs could have signed Martinez for a million. :D

    • Dustin S

      Agree too. A bit surprised at all the negative response over a guy signing for slot. It’s a good day and great news. Hopefully Clifton signs, and I’m sure the Cubs trying to make up some money with Bryant is what made the negotiations drag out. But in the end you’re talking money for the #2 overall pick vs. #348 in Clifton. It’d be great to get them both, but forced to choose it’s not a tough decision. I’d almost question giving the #348 pick $800k, more than I would Bryant’s deal.

    • Cyranojoe

      It matters because it impacts the total value of prospects we can sign in addition to Bryant.

      • MichiganGoat

        You realize that the success rate of any later draft pick is very low… No need to get upset because we can’t sign anyone. Bryant is the prize- we got him- be happy.

        • ssckelley

          True, but I like the Cubs odds better the more they are able to get signed. Clifton was ranked as a 3rd round talent, BA had him ranked 148 overall and Alamo was one of the top high school catchers ranked 348 overall. Both indicated a desire to skip college and sign with the Cubs, so being the fan I am seeing how much Bryant signed for has me a little concerned.

          But like others have said, let’s see how this all shakes out.

          • gocatsgo2003

            Based on some quick math and Baseball America’s Cubs signings site (http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2013xteam.php?team=1004), if Alamo signed foR $200k, then the Cubs would have about $341k to sign Clifton. The last pick in the third round was slotted at $491k.

            Don’t know if this is a material difference to Clifton, but it won’t quite be “third round money” by the looks of things.

            • D.G.Lang

              I am wondering if that ‘third round’ money might also include some college funds above the signing bonus to constitute the total amount.

        • Chad

          We were always going to get Bryant. Good players come from the lower rounds too, but as you said the odds are very low, so signing more of them into the system is how you increase the odds of those guys working out. The biggest thing is getting them into the system because if you don’t you have wasted that pick totally rather than just potentially on a bust prospect.

    • Neil

      it matters because now we may not be able to sign one of our later round high upside over-slot picks..

  • JB88

    It’s funny to me that so many people are freaking out over what Bryant received, calling out the FO, when we don’t know at all whether there is any consequence for Bryant receiving this amount. If a later round kid is lost, then it is fair to start asking those questions, but it seems awfully premature at this point.

  • Serious Cubs Fan

    I’m really happy we sign Bryant but what the heck? How did Boras manage get him 6.7mil? I was thinking he’d sign for for 6.2?

    • Justin

      I hear ya. I can’t imagine how in the world Bryant could have gone back to school next yr. You think pitchers in that conference would pitch to him next yr?

  • cms0101

    This is good news. Whether or not Clifton signs is the real question now. Looking at the remaining unsigned guys, it seems like they may not sign 15 or more players out of the 40 draft picks. Somebody please tell me my math is wrong.

    • JulioZuleta

      They’ll probably sign 25-31 guys. Remember that picks after the 10th round have a 100K cushion built in. Only the amount over $100K counts against the slot. So if you sign a 13th rounder for $150K, that means 50K counts against your pool. You don’t save money by signing guys for under 100K either.

  • fromthemitten

    He earned it. Don’t hate the player, hate the game (and especially Bud Selig)

  • hansman1982

    So Bryant (top-20 prospect in baseball, easily) finally signs and there is a massive amount of anger on his signing post.

    Sounds about right…

    • Fishin Phil

      I was just sitting here thinking the same thing. It makes my little wooden head hurt.

    • ssckelley

      A lot of it is directed at the wrong entity (or person), I do not hate on Bryant at all and I cannot wait to see him start playing. Good for him that he got the FO to give him 6.7 million, I am happy for him. But the fan in me is hoping the amount of money the FO gave Bryant did not cost them 2 other HS prospects in Alamo and Clifton.

      • fromthemitten

        these are the same people who think we should fire Sveum in the middle of the season like it’ll miraculously turn the roster around and trade Soriano for David Price straight up

        • Voice of Reason

          Sveum should receive manager of the year votes for directing this team to the number of victories it has so far.

          The only positive about this team has been the starting pitching.

          And, wait till Garza is traded. Take Garza and the now departed Feldman out of the rotation…. OUCH!!

      • hansman1982

        The anger should be directed internally. Theo and Jed weren’t out preaching they were going to sign him under slot and there are always guys in drafts you lose out on because the money isn’t there.

        • ssckelley

          The money just isn’t there because Theo and Jed cannot sit at a negotiation table and win anything, all I seem them doing is give give give. They had a lot of leverage with Bryant, there is no way he goes back to school and passes on 6 million dollars. Boras and Bryant would have been insane to return to school over 700K when he could have signed for 6. Hannemanns dad came on record and said he was looking for 700 to a million, good negotiators get the deal done at 700 (or even less) but Jed/Theo pay the high mark (a million). It seemed like they overshot a few international players as well, Jimenez was rumored to want 2.5 million and the Cubs paid 2.8. Heck the Cubs just built a state of the art academy, that should be a selling point to get kids to sign for less.

          • cubsfanforever

            you must have been in on the negotiations. How the hell do you know anything. Oh yes you dont

            • ssckelley

              Yeah, you are right I was not at the negotiation table but I know Boras would be the dumbest agent alive if he would advice his client to pass on 6 million to go back to college where even if he gets drafted #1 next year would have even less leverage. It is called salesmanship and negotiation skills, Theo and Jed look more like strategist and planners. They might know how to build an organization but they suck at negotiating money.

          • Fishin Phil

            Yes, they are obviously idiots. Look at the shambles our minor league system is in. Where did I leave my pitchfork and torch?

            • ssckelley

              I think I have mentioned a fair number of times I think they are great at building an organization, I love the shape the minor league system is in. I am confident they will get the job done at the major league level as well. What I question is their negotiation skills, obviously Boras worked over Jed and Theo pretty good on this one.

          • JB88

            I’m fairly certain that Jimenez was reported to be between 2.8 and 3.2 M. There were also at least one report that said he was offered more by another team but still decided to go with the Cubs for other reasons (love of Sammy Sosa being the most cited one). So you might be right on Bryant and even Hannemann, but I don’t think your argument works with Jimenez.

            • ssckelley

              Fair enough, I am just going by what I’ve seen rumored as well. Don’t get me wrong I love the strategy they used with the International players, it appears to me Jed/Theo know how to take advantage of a market.

              • JB88

                I also think it might be premature to worry about what they spent on Bryant and Hannemann. There are lots of things in life that raise my blood pressure, but it doesn’t seem like this is one of those things. If we hear about the Cubs losing a kid that had agreed to sign, then I’ll definitely be a bit PO, but it is too soon to worry about that.

                • ssckelley

                  I hope you are right, but Clifton was on record saying he would not sign for less than 3rd round money. With the amount Bryant is reported to have signed for this looks to be impossible without jeopardizing next years first round pick.

              • hansman1982

                It’s possible they aren’t good at negotiating (however, that does seem implausible that one of the three isn’t good at it) or, with these prospects, they are more worried about ensuring Bryant got in the door than risk losing him for a year and a draft pick.

                Making sure Bryant gets in and developed > (to the power of infinity) signing Clifton and Alamo (and it’s still possible we get one of those two

                Boras has done seemingly stupid things in the past.

                • ssckelley

                  But the Cubs would not have lost a draft pick had he went back to school. They would have gotten an extra 1st round pick in next years draft where they could draft him again, with even less leverage.

                  • Hansman1982

                    If I’m not mistaken, the cubs were going to lose next years draft pick had they not signed him so they’d be down one top o the draft prospect over $700k.

                    • ssckelley

                      I think that is including Clifton though, Baseball America has them $186,900 over budget and I think they only show reported contracts. I don’t think the FO guaranteed any of these other contracts until Bryant was signed.

                    • Serious Cubs Fan

                      Maybe Clifton gets what ever we have left in the signing bonus pool + $250k for college education in the contract? Probably still not enough money to sign him

                  • Pat

                    Ok, let’s say they play hardball and insist he take half a million less than his draft status would indicate, so they can give it to someone else – seeing as they have the leverage. If they really expect him to succeed, that is a horrible strategy. If you fuck with him now, what do you think the odds are he is going to give the team any sort of break in the future (when comparatively bigger dollars would be on the table). Why piss off the 2nd pick to make the 328th pick happy?

                    • mdavis

                      frankly, from the sound of it Clifton had absolutely no desire to attend school in any way. i think he will take whatever is left. if not, he can go to CC.

                    • ssckelley

                      Oh ok, so Bryant is going to give them a break down the road? I hope they got that in writing. Gosh, I hope the Astros and Rockies did not piss off Appel and Gray when they signed for under slot.

                      Even if Bryant gets mad over something like this, I think that goes away quickly when you take a little of your signing bonus and go buy yourself a new car, house, or whatever he wants. Either way he went from being a college student to a millionaire, I cannot imagine anybody being pissed off for very long.

      • Adam

        The other thing is he got slot value. They gave Almora about $650k over slot.

  • RY22

    glad i spent time reading about lebron james on a cubs blog… anyone else excited we just got a hugeee impact bat in our system? seems like everybody is so mad about not saving any money that they forget how big of a signing this is… if clifton was cant miss like most of you are making it out to seem they would have drafted him higher and made sure they got him, we just signed the 2nd best player in the draft and everyone is losing their minds over clifton… i get that it woulda been nice to be able to grab both but some of you are gonna need a long walk and some blood pressure medicine after this news when realistically you should be pumped the cubs just made a giant step to the final goal…

    • cms0101

      This is a good thing that he signed. While it’s disappointing they may lose out on a Clifton or somebody like him, he’s going to be one of the top 2 or 3 prospects in the system instantly, so it’s definitely a good signing. If they gave Alamo $200k, they could still give Clifton $340,925. I believe that is close to the bottom end of the 3rd round slots. I’m only speculating on Alamo’s signing though, but I just wanted to call out a potential scenario.

    • Mr. B. Patient

      YES!!!

      2nd overall pick, college hitter…success rate at about 75%
      3rd round pick.(projected) high school pitcher…success rate about 5%?

      What’s the big deal?

      (I bet they get Clifton, anyway).

      • Assman22

        Cubs supposedly will still sign Clifton and because of that the Cubs were able to give slot to Bryant…my apologies for my erroneous post earlier but it’s what I was told, sorry guys…

        • http://bleachernation.com someday…2015?

          That’s good news. Not suprising though. Wasn’t Clifton the one who said he hated school, or something along those lines?

          • Kyle

            What are the chances that this ends with some sort of evasion charge against the Cubs later when Clifton gets his money in a non-conventional way. 20%?

            • MichiganGoat

              When did you become all Die Hardian conspiracy Kyle?

            • DarthHater

              I hear Clifton is getting the franchise for the Wal-Mart under the bleachers.

              • MichiganGoat

                Nah he’s getting 5% of the Jumbotron ad revenue… and Tunney is furious.

            • Trevor Clifton

              I do SO have a billionaire Russian great uncle who just died and left me a multi-zillion ruble dacha on the Black Sea!

        • cubchymyst

          Just keep pass what ya hear. It is always good to read.

        • DarthHater

          You’re forgiven, Assman. But Gammons gets one free shot to call you an idiot. :-P

          • Hansman1982

            I’d like to hear that ESPN report.

        • baldtaxguy

          The Assman never needs to apologize.

  • cubsfanforever

    Bizarre that people could be pissed. Its almost like its your money. I think I will stay on the bandwagon that the management actually know what they are doing.. Unlike myself and a few others on here

    • Lou Brown

      Only pissed if they lost Clifton when they didn’t need to. the best of these guys are a 1 in 3 shot to make it. I would rather have two 1 in 3 shots than one.

      • chirogerg

        I think we should be more worried about Wagner than Clifton

        • Jason ( Thundermug)

          Wagner is signed and pitching in Arizona or Boise already :)

  • Wally

    Hey BluBlud…..Forget Nashville…..you should move to Kodak Tn….Home of the Smokies..I’m just glad that we are signing Bryant….Think Positive….that’s why we are all Cub Fans!!!!

  • Serious Cubs Fan

    damn… I very mix feeling right now. Happy he signed but disappointed he signed for so much. No Clifton now. but Bryant (potential top 25 guy) > Clifton (12round overslot guy)

    • Michael

      And you know this how. Curious In what position you hold with the Cubs to determine this.

      • Serious Cubs Fan

        Michael: What the heck are you talking? Since when is it a crime to speculate Clifton hasn’t signed. Trust me I think the Clifton is going to be a stud and has a great arm but what I’m saying if it came down to making sure we sign Bryant who is a more sure thing talent, you have to make sure you sign Bryant over Clifton. If you just do a little math its hard, i don’t know where their going to come up with enough money to sign clifton for third round money. I’d be pretty bummed if Clifton didn’t sign, because I think the kid is going to be really good.

        What your deal? Your mad that I said “no clifton now?” I apologize I guess for taking an educated assumption.

        • Michael

          No a assumption would go something like I really don’t think we can sign Clifton now. Or saying No Clifton now ?. Just saying you made it sound like you know for sure that Clifton wouldn’t sign now. And yes I agree Bryant is more important and the clear choice to get signed. But it’s all good man sorry if what I wrote made you mad just not a fan of people seemingly saying what will happen when they are just a regular person like you or me. But after looking again your not that type

  • cubzforlife

    I sell cars. I had a man walk in and ask to see a new car. In the small talk get to know you phase he said he won the Illinois lottery, 4.8 million, 2.4 after taxes. Showed me the paperwork seemed like a nice guy. Found a car he wanted started below sticker, ended up a few hundred under invoice. Guy wanted to save a few hundred more, said a dealer 30 miles away would make the deal. The fact that he “found ” alot of money played no part in my decision to throw him out. It turned out he was just a dick.
    How much is enough? How careful are you when you spend it? How do you treat the people you spend it with? I think the kid should get as much as he can and treat the car guy nice when he gives you a great deal on that new car.

    • JB88

      Maybe there is a lot more missing from that story, but the guy trying to buy the car doesn’t sound like the dick. To be honest, the way you portray things, you are the one who comes across in the wrong.

      • cubsfanforever

        ouch

    • Michael

      Who cares if he wanted to save a few hundred more. Most dealerships rip people off so whats the problem trying to get the best deal. I don’t get what the lottery had to do with this though?.

    • bbmoney

      It’s like you think he owed you something………

  • Funn Dave

    Pumped to have four of the top twenty (or thirty, depending on whom you ask) prospects in baseball!

  • hansman1982

    I saw a tweet earlier that said something to this effect:

    Kris Bryant just signed with the Cubs. Light the sparklers!

  • When the Music’s Over

    It’s amazing that signing top draft picks is now a great accomplishment, especially the very high end ones. It’s like you have to grovel to get them to take $6.7M vs. $6.4M. When did this become the case?

    • Funn Dave

      I think everyone’s just relieved because it went so close to the deadline.

  • Mr. Gonzo

    Excellent news. This will be my excuse for drinking tonight.

  • mak

    Happy for the kid and hope he enjoys every penny. He earned it with years of hard work at every level. Looking forward to watching him play at Wrigley.

  • Eric

    I’m fine with this. Just get his ass into games pronto. You don’t worry about losing a 15-20 system range prospect for a top 20 in all of baseball.

  • JonnyRed

    Great news! Anyone have an idea where he will get assigned?

  • another JP

    This is the guy we had to sign. I can only imagine the thousands of man-hours expended scouting Bryant and the other five guys we were looking @ #2… losing him at the expense of guys picked after the tenth round makes no sense. With the recent additions of Bryant, Paniagua, Arrieta, and the IFA guys this is a top three farm system. By the time we deal Garza et. al. we might even be #1.

  • Mr. P

    Sweet!!!!! Too bad Boise games aren’t on milb.tv anymore though. What is up with that?

  • Die hard

    Good move-hope he can field the bunt and hit the curve

    • DarthHater

      Gee, what happened to all the vacuous clap-trap about the Cubs failing to sign Bryant?

      • Die hard

        I had you at good move and u obviously failed to look beyond ur long beak to see my caveats — not surprised

        • DarthHater

          Yea, your one-line internet feces tosses are just chock full of subtle innuendo. Face it Die hard, there is no way you can retroactively rewrite history to escape from the utterly indisputable fact that you have made a complete fool out of yourself on this subject for the past couple weeks.

          • DarthHater

            BTW, Sandberg’s not managing the Phillies yet, either, is he? :-P

            • MichiganGoat

              Not in this plane of existence but in the Die Hardian Universe he is… Geez do you need a lesson on the multiverse?

              • DarthHater

                [img]http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3747/9179773544_40eb9124fb_o.jpg[/img]

                • Die hard

                  Hertz Donut .. Donut!

              • DarthHater

                [img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_spCP3JtxOPc/S2RY_NMbkEI/AAAAAAAABUE/Dbim30NAoJo/s400/285-13.jpg[/img]

          • TWC

            “Face it Die hard, there is no way you can … escape from the utterly indisputable fact that you have made a complete fool out of yourself *repeatedly on every possible subject from day one*.”

            FTFY.

            ps: DICK TIDROW!

            • DarthHater

              Thanks. I knew that sounded wrong when I wrote it…

              • DarthHater

                Still – individual acts of egregious stupidity should not be disregarded just because they inhabit a galactic cloud of more generalized idiocy.

                • TWC

                  I’m totally on board with that.

                • MichiganGoat

                  That’s why I’m shunning the his ridiculous comments and all his imitators

  • Cheryl

    One thing Boras has done for him is turn some of us off this entire process. Bryant may be very good, but if your unemployed or on a fixed income reading about this and some of the other salaries these guys get gives it a negative aura. I’m glad Bryant signed but at this point in time it wouldn’t have bothered me if he hadn’t.

    • ssckelley

      Boras is just doing his job, and a good one at that. Obviously he can run circles around Theo and Jed when it comes to negotiating.

      • TOOT

        Bah!

      • DarthHater

        Obviously you have little understanding of what the word obviously means.

        • ssckelley

          oops, evidently a better one?

          KMA! :D

          • DarthHater

            Thanks for demonstrating that you don’t know what evidently means, either.

            GFY! :-D

      • Ben

        I realize this is a business and the cubs are trying to pinch pennies to sign other prospects, but what’s wrong with giving the guy what he deserves. Who knows, maybe when his next contract is due, it will pay off.

        • Jimmy James

          I don’t have problem with giving him slot…hope they are still able to sign the over slots they wanted

    • DocPeterWimsey

      Yes, Joe Unemployed would gladly take a fraction of what Bryant is getting to play baseball. But here is the catch: nobody is willing to offer Joe Unemployed *any* money to play baseball or football, or to play lead guitar in a rock band, or anything like that. A small fraction of people have Talent: and that small fraction lives under a different set of rules than do other people.

      As for Boras, he is just doing his job. He almost always gets the maximum for his clients. (I’m not sure what happened with Appel: obviously, that was a big exception, and we cannot expect to see that often in the future.)

      • TOOT

        Boras is good, but he is certainly not running cicles around the FO. FO is giving him a dog treat for being good.

    • TWC

      “I’m glad Bryant signed but at this point in time it wouldn’t have bothered me if he hadn’t.”

      Yeah, who cares if we sign one of the best-regarded players in the draft? That’s meaningless.

      • DarthHater

        Guess this means it’s back to school for the Cubs’ 41st pick. A little more education probably won’t hurt him.

  • Joe

    I don’t think this FO knows what they are doing at all. All they have done since they arrived is make a small improvement to our major league talent. And the minor league talent has improved significantly. And they saved dollars that can be used in the future. And the coaching changes have shown signs of improvement. And they have a plan that, whether you agree with it or not, is being executed. Wait … what was I saying about the FO?

    • TOOT

      Yep. Pretty soon when North Side is mentioned it will be because they are North in the division. First place.

    • MichiganGoat

      Yup they are utterly clueless the make Jim Frey look like a genius- obviously they are idiots because they paid Bryant the slot MLB allowed for him. FIRE THEO!

  • cubsin

    I, too, would like to see the Cubs sign Clifton. But I’m not whining about it if they don’t, and I won’t be blaming Bryant, Boras, the Front Office or Hanneman if they don’t.

    • MichiganGoat

      Exactly!

  • MichiganGoat

    Geez what should be good news sure has ruffled the feathers of an already caustic fanbase- I guess we are winning so the negative has to come out somewhere. This is good news we signed our top draft pick, yet some have found this as a reason to get angry at the FO?

    • ssckelley

      I am not angry with the FO, I still like the overall body of work. But I think their negotiation skills suck.

      • King Jeff

        Based on your speculation of how the negotiations played out. Not based on anything that has actually been proven to have happened. Yeah, we got it from your other 17 posts on the matter.

      • MichiganGoat

        Why, because you’ve been intimately involved with the process or because you are unhappy with the final price? If its the former you have valid insight otherwise your just relating you disappointment to a fantasy that satisfies you need to blame something. We signed him- that’s the good news, be happy.

        • ssckelley

          If the Cubs get all the players signed without giving up a draft pick then honestly I don’t care how much Bryant got. But my initial impression is the amount Bryant got may have cost them Clifton and/or Alamo. Hopefully I am wrong and they are all signed.

      • TWC

        “I am not angry with the FO, I still like the overall body of work. But I think their negotiation skills suck.”

        … because the draftee appears to have received exactly what his bonus was “supposed” to be? Makes sense.

        ::rolls eyes::

        • ssckelley

          Yeah, those General Managers for Houston and Colorado are horrible for signing their #1 picks under slot.

          • TWC

            Do you have any idea of what Bryant/Boras came in to the negotiations demanding? Do you? No? But you’re *positive* that the Cubs’ FO screwed this up.

            No, no prejudice there. Not at all.

            • MichiganGoat

              It’s amazing how a persons frustration when something doesn’t go according to THEIR plan because flaw of someone else.

              • ssckelley

                Goat, this wasn’t my plan. Evidently these players had signed contracts, the Cubs drafted them, so they were part of the FO’s plan as well. At some point the FO must have thought they were going to be able to have enough money to sign them all or they would not have drafted or signed them to contracts to begin with.

                • MichiganGoat

                  Possibly or they drafted what they wanted told these players their bonuses was contingent on XYZ happening and that is exactly what is happening.

                  • ssckelley

                    That is what I am hoping didn’t happen. Hopefully the Cubs got all 3 of them signed and we are all arguing a mute point. The word on Clifton was he wanted 3rd round money, how much that is exactly I have no idea and Alamo never gave any indication on how much he wanted either. Perhaps they both just signed for the 100K plus whatever the 5% over the Cubs are allowed and everybody is happy.

                    • TWC

                      “The word on Clifton was he wanted 3rd round money, how much that is exactly I have no idea…”

                      But you’re sure that the Cubs screwed it up. You have no idea, but you’re sure the FO negotiated poorly. Bizarre.

                • King Jeff

                  Yeah, because every team signs every player that they drafted. You are really harping on this that they negotiated themselves away from being able to sign Clifton and Alamo when you really have no idea if they can still sign them, and all signs point to both still being Cubs.

                • MichiganGoat

                  Remember dollars have not been announced on most of these players.

            • ssckelley

              TWC, that is on the FO as well. They should have had an idea what the demands were before they selected him, and it is odd how the Cubs went over their alloted time for the pick. At some point the Cubs had to of thought they were going to get him signed under slot or why would they make deals with Alamo and Clifton?

              • King Jeff

                Once again, where do you see that they can’t sign either guy now? Where have you seen that they spent all of their budget and can’t sign anyone else? You haven’t, yet here you are, 50 posts later, saying the same crap over and over like you have some knowledge that no one else has.

                • ssckelley

                  No I am not, I have no more knowledge than any of you guys. All we were told is Clifton wanted 3rd round money. But I find it odd that Clifton signed a couple of weeks ago and the amount was never announced nor have we seen anything official on it, and all we got on Alamo is him posting twitter pictures of him signing a Cubs contract. It does lead me to believe that their contracts were contingent on how much Bryant signed for.

                  I would be thrilled to be wrong on this.

                  • King Jeff

                    Betsy Clifton ‏@betseyclifton 2h

                    Its your turn @trevorclifton1 ! :)
                    Retweeted by Clifton
                    from Tennessee, US

                    Tweeted by a relative of Clifton, retweeted by Clifton, immediately after he tweeted that the Cubs signed Bryant. So much for having more knowledge than the rest of us.

                    • ssckelley

                      Jeff, read my previous reply to you. Jeeeeeeez

              • TWC

                “They should have had an idea what the demands were before they selected him…”

                How do you know that they didn’t? You don’t. He may have told the Cubs before the draft that he wanted $7.5m. You. Don’t. Know.

                It’s remarkable how hung up you are on a bunch of intracranial speculation here, especially as there’s no indication that Alamo and/or Clifton are out of the picture.

                But you’re *sure* that the Cubs screwed this up. Which is amazing to me.

                • MichiganGoat

                  Agreed- we will never know what the plan and the contigencies have been, but be certain there was a plan.

                • ssckelley

                  I am quite amazing, thanks!

                  :D

                • MichiganGoat

                  I think that might have been the situation all along- Bryant said he would not sign under slot, FO prepared for this but hoped he would change his mind, they drafted and signed players and leaked information that they would be vast overslot signings to put pressure on Bryant, he didn’t balk and they signed him at slot. The whole time they informed their other signing that this could happen and couldn’t promise dollars until his signing was official. Now we want and see what comes next.

                  • DarthHater

                    Maybe. Given the precipitous drop-off in career ML success rates after the first few picks in the draft, I’m a helluva lot happier to have Bryant signed than I am worried about the possible loss of any number of 3rd-round or lower level talents with a 0.5% chance of making it.

                    • MichiganGoat

                      Agreed, these HS overslot players are nothing to get upset about.

          • MichiganGoat

            Again here you going connecting dots that aren’t comparable- we have no idea what has been happening. Just because one team got underfoot deals does not equal that our FO was played for fools and can’t negotiate. Each team, each pick is solely it’s own process and situation. Let go of this misplaced frustration and focus on what is good- WE SIGNED HIM! Geez I hate t see how you react to bad news.

    • Internet Random

      It’s not enough to sign a player for slot. You have to send them away from the negotiations crying and broken. You want them to show up dejected and demoralized to play ball.

  • King Jeff

    Haven’t seen this among the muck in these comments, but Hoyer says that Bryant is going to start in Boise due to not having played in weeks.

    • MichiganGoat

      That’s where I expected him to start all along.

    • cubchymyst

      Speaking of Boise Does anyone know why Hanneman is on the 7 day DL? Is it cause he is taking longer to recover from what ever made him sick or did something else happen.

  • Josh

    I know this is off topic and may have been answered earlier, but can anyone explain why Ronald Torreyes had an AB for Tennessee today? Is it just a misprint?

    • Mr. B. Patient

      This was a continuation of a suspended game that was started in June.

  • Brandon

    This is why I figured Almora was in town, so when do the photos of the two of them go on sale? And how much ?

    • JeffR

      Well he is playing in a game right now so he is no longer in town.

  • http://BleacherNation.com Dean

    Was wondering if Boris bargained for language in Appel’s contract that guarantees he’s added to the big league roster at a certain date, and with that Appel gave up some money. Possibly the Cubs weren’t playing that game with Bryant, so Boris said well I guess your paying full slot then. It’s about the only thing I can think of that makes sense for an agent of the number 1 pick to let his guy sign quick and low, and then sign his guy at number 2 for more money than his number 1 pick.

    • Mr. B. Patient

      I think the new CBA prohibits that language in a contract. Not to say a winky-winky deal wasn’t made. I’m wondering, just speculating here, if Appel told Boras to accept Houston’s first offer so he could get started. Don’t know.

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