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matt garza cubsWith this morning’s Garza Watch post already loaded with comments and updates, I thought it might be useful to start a new post (especially considering the new information).

Today, Bruce Levine spoke to Matt Garza, who confirmed that he’s expecting to be traded. In a piece that you should definitely read, Levine quotes Garza:ย “They told my agent [earlier in the week] that they were going to move me. They said as much as they like me they need to add inventory for the future. I want to stay but that doesn’t seem possible now.”

Presumably, this came in part out of one-last-try negotiations on an extension. It would be understandable if Garza would prefer to test the market (he’s primed to get paaaaid), and understandable if the Cubs weren’t willing to commit full free agent market price at this time. Good on the Cubs for keeping Garza abreast of their plans. These are all people, you know.

Levine suggests that the Rangers, Indians, Blue Jays and Dodgers are or have been involved, with the Cubs seeking third baseman Lonnie Chisenhall in a deal from the Indians (with the Cubs sending back an infielder, potentially), and the Dodgers unwilling to part with their top two pitching prospects (presumably Zach Lee and Chris Reed or Julio Urias). All teams have been told to make their best and final offer.

We’ll see what ends up happening, but it sounds like a deal will happen before Garza’s scheduled start on Monday. It’s just a matter of finding the right trading partner to blink first.

UPDATE: Reports out of Boston – this one comes from Alex Speier – continue to say that the Red Sox feel comfortable with their starting pitching situation because Clay Buchholz will be back eventually, the other four in the rotation are doing all right, and there is a great deal of pitching depth at the upper levels of the minors. Posturing? Maybe. But Levine didn’t list the Red Sox, and they haven’t seemed like the strongest suitor at any point.

UPDATE 2 (11:43am CT): From Gerry Fraley out of Dallas, the Rangers’ offer is likely Mike Olt plus one of a group of young infield prospects (Fraley speculates Luis Sardinas, Leury Garcia, or Rougned Odor) plus a pitching prospect (Fraley mentions Neil Ramirez and C.J. Edwards). I’m just shooting from the hip here, but if the Cubs could get Olt, Edwards, and one of Odor or Sardinas … that’s looking like a mighty fine package to me.

UPDATE 3 (1:00pm CT): George Ofman chimes in to remind folks that this is not a done deal with the Rangers, and, yes, the Cubs are still working with other potential teams.

UPDATE 4 (1:02pm CT): A big one. Joe Davidson of the Sacramento Bee (who references Garza’s Freso connection, in case you’re wondering why someone in Sacramento would be reporting on this) says that a Cubs/Rangers deal is “99 percent done,” with the medicals now being evaluated. Davidson says there are six players involved, but that doesn’t mean it’s Garza for five players. It could be just about any combination. The medical step with Garza, who has had that stress reaction in his elbow, reportedly related to a screw that was placed there as a kid, isn’t totally perfunctory. In other words, the deal could be “99 percent done” and still kinda-sorta not be a “done deal,” if that makes sense. Not solely because of the medicals, mind you, but that’s a factor.

UPDATE 5 (1:13pm CT): Although he doesn’t yet know the other names involved, Davidson appears quite confident that Garza is going to Texas. Isn’t it funny how the last year has jaded us? Pre-Dempster Saga, we would all also be convinced that Garza to the Rangers was definitely happening, because obviously it’s happening. But now? You’re all probably feeling the way I do: yeah, seems likely he’ll go to the Rangers, and, yeah, seems likely it’ll be today or tomorrow. But nothing would surprise me anymore.

UPDATE 6 (1:38pm CT): Man, the ‘net is a wildfire of speculation about other Cubs’ names potentially being involved in this deal. It’s certainly possible that other Cubs will be in, but no big names have been reported anywhere. In other words, I’d be very, very surprised if Alfonso Soriano was suddenly in this deal (especially considering his no-trade rights) and we didn’t hear a peep about it. A lower-profile, or non-obvious trade target type? Sure. It’s possible.

UPDATE 7 (3:18pm CT): Jesse Rodgers says that we can expect to hear something on a Garza trade today or tomorrow (though he added a “?,” so there’s probably some speculation there).

UPDATE 8 (3:35pm CT): An ESPN report out of Dallas has Jim Bowden saying that Neil Ramirez has “emerged as the center piece” of a Garza deal. That would be pretty surprising given that the other names reportedly discussed – Mike Olt, C.J. Edwards, etc. – are generally thought to be better prospects. Might Ramirez be in the deal? Sure. Might he be an important piece? Sure. The “center piece”? Implying that the other pieces are far inferior? That would be a surprise.

UPDATE 9 (3:55pm CT): Garza is still with the Cubs in Colorado, doing his normal warm-ups, per Patrick Mooney.

UPDATE 10 (4:03pm CT): Gordon Wittenmyer has a Cubs source who says a mystery NL team could pop up and “intercept” Garza from the Rangers. If there was one thing this process was missing, it was a mystery team … (Pirates? Diamondbacks? Cardinals? Dodgers? They were the most frequently mentioned NL teams.)

UPDATE 11 (4:43pm CT): Jim Bowden tweets something that will probably be unpopular, but backs up UPDATE 8: “The Rangers – Cubs…Matt Garza deal will get done and Neil Ramirez will be center piece according to source.” If the deal truly ends up being Garza for Ramirez and then a lesser prospect or two, I would be surprised. I’ve said all along that I expected a return less than the Greinke deal last year, though – something more in the realm of a top 100 and then a couple top 15 organizational types – so you’re encouraged to keep expectations reasonable, however this plays out.

UPDATE 12 (4:46pm CT): BP’s Jason Parks expresses – in his unique, colorful way – disbelief about Ramirez being the “centerpiece” of a Garza deal: “Neil Ramirez might be in the Garza deal, but if he’s the centerpiece of the deal (which I doubt), the Cubs are getting [um, a bad deal].”

UPDATE 13 (4:53pm CT): Bowden reports that Ramirez has been scratched from his scheduled start tonight, which could be nothing, could be an injury, or could be holding him out in advance of a trade. We’ll dig into that one a bit.

UPDATE 14 (4:58pm CT): Hooray for conflicting reports (at least temporarily) – T.R. Sullivan says Ramirez is still in line to start tonight. Maybe he just hasn’t heard yet, or maybe Bowden jumped the gun.

UPDATE 15 (5:02pm CT): Bowden retracts and does a little mea culpa: “I am now being told that Neil Ramirez wasn’t scratched.Was given wrong information. My fault for not following up with 2nd source #apologies” Not that you needed another reminder after the last year, but: take the information, all of it, with a grain of salt. It’s interesting, it’s useful, it’s fun. But we live in an era where things happen quickly and mistakes are made. Try to stay calm throughout the process, and just enjoy.

UPDATE 16 (5:17pm CT): A report from Jeff Wilson (Star-Telegram) suggests (but does not state explicitly outright) that the deal on the table is Garza and an unidentified Cubs player for Olt, Ramirez, Edwards, and Luis Sardinas. If true, I’d expect the other Cubs piece to be something fairly good, as Sardinas is a legit prospect (good enough that you could argue he’s the best prospect in the deal … hard to say who the “centerpiece” is). That six player deal would comport with the original Joe Davidson report (UPDATE 4).

UPDATE 17 (6:14pm CT): Tim Brown tweets that the “final stage” of the deal has been reached, with the exchange of medical information having taken place. Joe Davidson’s original report included that bit, so it’s fair to guess that evaluating – and then discussing within the context of the trade – those medicals has taken some time. Neil Ramirez is still pitching (at last check), so, if he’s in the deal, we haven’t yet reached the stage of bro hugs.

  • Eric

    Chisenhall would be a great addition. Just sayin’

  • Dustin S

    My guess is that Assman might be right, and it’ll be Garza/Valbuena/Gregg going that way. Not a lot of need for Valbuena if we’re getting Olt. Gregg I wonder more about but it sounds right.

    • EB

      I would think Vitters and not Valbuena. Someone still needs to play third for us this year and I don’t think Olt is quite ready yet.

      • Cubbie Blues

        We just brought Lake up.

        • EB

          True. Forgot about that. Still, I think Vitters might be part of it.

          • Cubbie Blues

            Well, he needs to be a part of something. He sure hasn’t been a part of the Cubs organization this year.

            • On The Farm

              By the look of him hanging out on the DL I would say he has taken a page out of Stewart’ book.

              I jest

          • Scotti

            Lake is nowhere near ready to play MLB 3B. Not even close. He will likely never be ready for third. His best position (the only one he can play without killing you) right now is 2B but RF is a possibility down the road, too.

  • http://Bleachernation Lou Brock

    This is an educated guess but no inside info – Garza and Ransom to Rangers for Edwards, Font, Claudio, and Solarte a 2B at AAA.

  • matt

    i hate this part…this is where the Cubs have a history of the deal getting srewed up

  • johnny chess

    Perez, Olt, Edwards for Garza Soriano Navarro + cash

    • Matt H.

      Haha. Wrong. Texas isn’t full moron.

  • gocatsgo2003

    “6 players in the mix” could also very well mean that the Cubs have, say, locked in one player and get to choose two more from a list of five.

  • Matt H.

    I don’t trust “Joe Davidson” of the Sacramento Bee. Seriously, how is THAT guy the one with the scoop? Looking over his page he hasn’t broken a story in his career.

    I wish they’d just trade Garza already, I have a lot of work to do before the weekend.

    • cjdubbya

      Garza’s from Fresno

  • afinch

    Did you ever think you’d clamor for inside information from a person named “Assman”?

    That being said, I’ve searched for any posts for him several times in the last week. I’m not the only one.

  • Brian

    Though I don’t live under a rock (lol), I’m not all that familiar with players in other farm systems that I don’t read about here at bleachernation (keep up the great work Brett). With that said, I guess I don’t see any trade for Garza being a “good one” unless we can snag a Major League-ready player…as in, a kid who can step in and contribute immediately. Garza is one of, if not, the best player on the Cubbies roster, so I’d personally hate to see him go for a couple kids who may or may not be ready to contribute within the next 3-5 years. The last time I checked, I spend hard-earned money to watch the Chicago Cubs and to buy their team apparel…not the Peoria Chiefs for crying out loud hahaha.

    Point being, I hope they can get someone that we Cubs fans can be excited about NOW…a guy who can help the big league club immediately, not a kid who MIGHT be able to help out in the next half-decade.

    • DReese

      Olt is in AAA

    • itzscott

      Believe me, no team is going to give up what you’re looking for in exchange for a 2 month rental

      • Geo

        Believe me you’d be surprised what a team 2 games out of first playing chicken with the cubs for best pitcher on the market with the a’s foot on there throat with multiple pitchers on DL would do ! Cubs are holding the strong hand & will bring in good haul if they keep there poker face & not flinch? Don’t be a downer.

      • Reality Check

        I like Garza; seems to be a competitive guy and has done well on the big stage with the rays. under 30. yet we are trading him when the higher levels of minors have weak SP prospects. to me olt is josh vitters 2.0. getting A ball players means this rebuild very well could blow past 2016 and not have playoffs in the 1st 5 yrs of the largest large market rebuild ever. theo should know Garza from his days in the AL east; Garza should of been signed in 2011 or traded then; not getting AA or AAA pitchers means the FO missed the boat on this deal and Garza is the BIG chip to trade when compared to demp, maholm or Feldman. I guess the big clue that there is NO pressue on theo to win by 2016 is Ricketts has NOT said when he expects a playoff team; just “sustained success” supposedly, but when? rickets never really answers that question; most of his efforts are on Wrigley being rebuilt; not the team. (by next yr attendance should be down to 2.5M; 800K from it’s peak pre-Ricketts. at $40/tix estimate; that’s 32M lost revenue.)
        rather have spent 75M on Garza than wasting the 52M on ejax or the other 28M wasted on baker, fujikawa, concepcion, stewart, and hairston.

        • Jed

          Actually, I’d say Olt is the opposite of Vitters. Lower contact rate. Higher strikeout rate. Better power. Better defense. Higher ceiling. A much better option than Vitters at this point.

    • cubzfan23

      I agree, nice post. Im a garza fan and I love his clubhouse presence and hate they are moving him. I am trying to stay positive about the FO’s decision on this move.

      • EQ76

        and this FO will continue to do this until we start competing.. Honestly, I wish we would have never signed Edwin Jackson and used some of that money to lock up Garza for the next 4-5 years. but, oh well.. maybe we’ll look back at this trade like the Marshall to the Reds trade and feel like we won it.

    • Jed Jam Band

      Of course you don’t spend money on the Peoria Chiefs. The Kane County Cougars are our A ball affiliate these days.

      • On The Farm

        Yeah if you are buying stuff for the Chiefs that makes you a ……. CARDINAL FAN! SPY GET HIM!

        • Stevie B

          A spy and a moran!!!

      • Austin8466

        Beat me to it lol

  • itzscott

    Update 5 = Deja Vu

    Hopefully we won’t be hearing how Garza just needs that screw in his elbow tightened and we’ll all need to go thru this same time next year.

  • Crockett

    I cannot wait for Brett’s 30 (or 36) hour blog-a-thon that will involve exactly zero Cubs because they’re all traded in the next week.

    Gonna be a chore!

    • On The Farm

      I guess his job will be just straight blogging on minute-by-miunte update of his kids or something.

    • DReese

      “Hour 16: My cat is still sleeping on my lap…”

      • hansman1982

        Hour 17: Got bored so I bought some nifty new PJ’s for him and having him walk the runway for me…here are the pics:

        • DReese

          Brett, can we do this instead!?!?!?
          Great idea hansman

        • On The Farm

          the runway….. or the cat walk?

          • DReese

            Both, Brett will have more than enough time.

          • hansman1982

            Doing the cat walk on the catwalk.

        • Austin8466

          Hour 18: still trying to teach my cat how to “catwalk”. Seems like it shouldn’t be this hard.

  • Serious Cubs Fan

    I wonder if Texas would prefer not letting go of Odor and instead giving up Sardinas. Ordor’s bat is better but plays less premium position. Give me Odor over Sardinas

    • itzscott

      Funny if Barry Foote was still playing for the Cubs and batted in front of Odor. The Cubs would have Foote-Odor leading off an inning at some point.

    • cubspong

      I wonder if there are any Alcantara implications if Sardinas or Odor are part of the deal. I know it’s unlikely that one prospect would effect the other especially when Alcantara is at double A but it is possible this deal could make Alcantara expendable. If the FO does not have as high hopes for him as the various experts that we have seen lately, then it is possible that they could deem him a sell high candidate.

      • cubchymyst

        The Front office is sill acquire players. At some point the front office will start trading off prospects but I’d be surprised if that happened this offseason. My guess is Alcantara will be in AAA next year as a Cubs and given a chance to prove himself.

      • Serious Cubs Fan

        I think Alcantara has been a trade chip all along. He is a toolsy, top 100 middle infield prospect. Could be a great trade chip in a Price or Giancarlo Stanton trade down the line. Alcantara’s stock is pretty much as high as it going to be IMO. I personally don’t think he’s going to be a star but I think he’d be a solid major league second baseman though. I think we should personally sell high, but only for guys like Price or Stanton. Alcantara will not net us Stanton or Price but he might be enough to hopefully not make us give up more then one of the Big 4 for, for them. But this is all speculation. We have no clue whats going to happen down the line here

        • Chad

          If you want Price or Stanton 1 or 2 of the Big 4 will be going that way no matter who else is in the deal. I don’t think they have trading Alcantra in mind (unless they think a guy like Odor is better suited for their system) but they have moved him to 2B to get him reps because they think he will play there in Chicago, soon. Just my opinion.

          • On The Farm

            I know prospects turn into trade chips, but some of them have to graduate our system so we can actually have good players too. This team will be hurting for something to get the fans excited about next year and Alacantra providing some energy into the lineup and a Castro/Rizzo resurgence would be ideal. That way two core guys are where you want to see them, and then you have a new young guy (not like Rizzo and Castro are old) to get excited about too.

            • Serious Cubs Fan

              Alcantara probably wouldn’t get called up to the bigs till midseason next year at the earliest. That is only if he continues to hit. Theo/Jed like to see that 500 at bats at Iowa before the kids get called up. The only reason Lake got called up was because of injuries to the outfield

            • Mr. B. Patient

              OTF. Yeah, our prospects are trade chips (as unfortunate as that truth is), but with all the Cubs needs, I’m hoping we get 3 above avg players from them, either them themselves or who we trade them for. If we trade 2 of the top 4, with throw-ins, I worry we may be putting all our eggs in one basket.

              With all our needs, I don’t see adding a Stanton or a Price would guarantee we get that much better.

              What would be worse, though, is if the FO panics and sells off the big 4 for average guys. That may open our competitive window earlier, but our ceiling would be lower.

          • Serious Cubs Fan

            Chad: Like I said if we trade Alcantara in the future in Price or Stanton deal, we are definitely going to have to still give up one of the Big 4, but if you throw in Alcantara in the deal and with one of the Big for MAYBE you don’t have give up more then 1 of the Big 4. My guess we’d still too but you never know. I like Alcantara but I’m not sure his stock gets much higher then it is now. His ability to play up the middle of the infield and his great tools are what makes him such a highly rated prospect.

            • Chad

              Agreed and misread your initial post. I don’t think the cubs are going to be doing a deal in which they give up 2 of the top 4 yet. Maybe as it gets closer. 1 would be ok, but I doubt they give up 2 of 4 right now.

  • josh ruiter

    I want to be hearing Alfaro, Jackson, Edwards and Olt for Garza and Soriano/Navarro

    • DReese

      I hope

  • #23

    I agree, Olt, Sardinas, Jackson, Edwards for Garza +1 would be a great return!

  • Steele82

    Brett, realistically, what are the odds of the Cubs maybe being able to sign Garza in the off season? Any word of the Rangers won’t trade for MG unless they lock him up to extension?

    • cubzfan23

      This just doesnt happen, guarantee locks him up.

  • BRANT BROWN

    Is Nefali Feliz off the table? I know he had TJ but the guy has electric stuff. He could be the closer of the future but the stuff if healthy he could be a 2. I know its a gamble but a gamble worth taking if its even possible.

    • Cubbie Blues

      People would lose their shit if we picked up another TJ guy.

      • Crockett

        I’m all for Neftali, I just don’t think it’s going to happen.

  • jeff1969

    Looking at their numbers, Chisenhall actually looks like he has a better chance to make it than Olt does. Chisenhall is bats LH, seems passable in the field, but doesn’t get the praise Olt does for his defense. He looks to have less power than Olt, but has already been up & down in the majors the past three years, though he is a few months younger than Olt. Hmmm…Would Cleveland do Chisenhall, Bauer, and someone else for what Assman said was Garza, Valbuena, Gregg?

    • Cubman23

      I wouldn’t touch Bauer at this point. Aside from his pretty crappy numbers, it won’t take much googling to figure out what a headcase he is. He would not fit in well with the FO’s vision.

  • DReese

    Well I’m wrong, it does not include Sori

  • Assman22

    Cubs have given up Garza’s medicals and Rangers have spoken with his agent numerous times today…all but done…should be announced by 5pm…

    • Cubbie Blues

      So it has been spoken, so shall it be done.

      • MichiganGoat

        All hail the mighty Assman ;)

        • Neil

          lmfao.. u guys hailing a normal guy who forwards twitter posts is hilarious. assman has NO insider info, he posts on PSD regularly and takes whats said there and adds his own made up details

          • Carew

            We get it. You are not the first to doubt and mention your doubt. We’ve all seen it the past few days. Take everything with a grain of salt

          • ssckelley

            STFU, we are fortunate to have an insider like Assman here. Do not ruin it for us.

          • Big Joe

            As apposed to you, who forwards nothing, adds nothing, and contributes nothing. I see your point. Carry on.

            • Austin8466

              Well played, sir. Well played.

            • Hansman1982

              I don’t mind the Assman bashing. Until they started doing that, I never knew PSD existed.

              • On The Farm

                What’s PSD?

                • Hansman1982

                  Pro sports daily. Another message board.

                  • On The Farm

                    Thank you sir, I have seen it reference, but never spelled out so never knew where to go. Appreciate your business.

                • Mick

                  It’s where Neil hangs out so…

                • DarthHater

                  Post-traumatic Stress Disorder

          • MichiganGoat

            It’s called having FUN… would you be happy if I hailed your brilliance oh great and powerful Neil?

            See part of the power of the Assman is the name… Neil just is blah :)

            • Jp3

              I agree Even if he gets it from PSD I don’t care saves me the trip to that site๐Ÿ˜

              • MichiganGoat

                PSD makes the trolling, arguments, and crying sometimes found on here look like Xanadu.

    • http://bleachernation.com someday…2015?

      Thanks for all the updates Assman. It’s much appreciated.

      Do you know any of the names going and coming back?(other then Garza obviously)

    • Abe Froman

      Who is the other Cub involved?

      • Assman22

        If Texas, OF…DeJesus or Schierholtz most likely…if Cleveland, Gregg and/or Valbuena…still too much back and forth to clarify…

        • Abe Froman

          Solid haul for the Cubs?

          • Assman22

            We’ll all be very pleased with any of the scenarios I’ve heard today…

        • Assman22

          Every 30 seconds it’s something a bit different…sorry guys trying my best…

          • Abe Froman

            No worries, thanks for what you can offer.

          • afinch

            We can wait another few hours. Thanks for the updates though!

          • Jp3

            Assman, your best? What do you think this is we’re paying you for? You don’t get an award for effort, we need MOAR!๐Ÿ˜ This is crazy because my wife thinks I’m talking to other women on my phone because of all the constant checking… My eyes could use a break

            • Neil

              You guys aren’t counting on Assman to be an insider are you? He posts regularly on PSD and basically takes what is said there and adds a couple details of his own to try to spice it up.

              • waittilthisyear

                he has proven to be reliable. doesnt affect you anyway, so piss off

              • frank

                You said that already.

              • Abe Froman

                What is PSD?

              • Mick

                Hey Neil, try not to be such a Neil.

              • CubsFaninMS

                Was it your wife’s ass? Simmer down, Neil.

            • AlwaysNextYear

              My wife just says I cheat on her with Cubs so I’m good.

        • X The Cubs Fan

          Bauer and Chisenhall for Garza, Valbuena and Gregg sounds about even

        • fresno cub fan

          Thanks A-man!

    • afinch

      I hope Mike Olt’s power is as prodigious as I’ve heard and the holes in his swing are sewed up. I hope C.J. Edwards’ skinny frame will hold up to the grueling demands of a major league season. I hope whatever other minor leaguers that are about to enter the Cubs’ organization are all part of the first world series champions in over 100 years.

      I hope.

      -Red

      • turn two

        excellent

    • Vince

      5pm Central Daylight Time? Mountain Time? Pacific?!?!

    • Andrewmoore4isu

      5pm IN WHAT TIME ZONE?!?!

  • johnny chess

    The fact that 6 players are involved indicates Garza wasn’t enough for the package.
    Hence, Olt, Martin plus another prospect for Garza, Soriano, Gregg/Navarro /Plus Cash

    • davidalanu

      I can’t find anything on Hence. What position does he play?

  • SalukiHawk

    Help me out here someone. Cleveland fans were going bezerk about Chisenhall possibly being part of the Garza deal. Why? What am I not seeing. This is his third year in the big leagues, and looks mediocre, and appears to have regressed if anything. I seriously need to know.

    • On The Farm

      The same reason some Cubs fans don’t want to lose Vitters, we like our toys and we don’t want anyone else to play with them. Especially if they are going to have more fun with them then we did.

      • SalukiHawk

        I would “lose” Vitters in a heartbeat. I just don’t think anyone else would want him.

        • On The Farm

          I said some people want to keep Vitters, even Luke has said its still a little early to give up on him. He is 23

          • Scotti

            Trading a guy for Garza and “giving up on a guy” are two different things.

    • Edwin

      Everyone loves their own prospects/players, and downplays prospects/players from other teams. This happens wherever you go.

      • Edwin

        It’s why some Cubs fans view Garza as an ace/#1 pitcher, while some Rangers fans view him as a 3 or 4 starter with injury problems.

    • Mr. B. Patient

      Because a team’s fans, including us, are afraid the guys we trade away, even if they are not performing, will become the next Chris Davis.

      • SalukiHawk

        Or perhaps the next Brant Brown, Corey Patterson, Matt Murton, Jake Fox, or Felix Pie?

  • Boba Fett

    Assman do you know if one of the young infielders are involved? Maybe Odor? What kind of names are being mentioned on Cleveland’s side?

  • Tank

    Who is going into the Cubs rotation? It can’t be one of those R’s from AAA can it?

    • X The Cubs Fan

      I hope it’s Cabrera…

      • Tank

        ok I am good with that. i can’t stand to watch any worse baseball

    • On The Farm

      Here comes Rusin!

    • BJS

      Hopefully Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez!

  • cub2014

    if its the indians I would like to see Chisenhall
    come over he would fill 3B need now, probably
    send Ransom the other way.

    So Garza and Ransom for Chisenhall & 3
    prospects?

    • Serious Cubs Fan

      Your not getting Chisenhall for Ransom. NOT HAPPENING.

      • Serious Cubs Fan

        The absolute Best case scenario in a Ransom trade would be a similar return as the Hairston deal. A high upside A ball pitcher.

      • cub2014

        Ransom would be part of the Garza deal

    • SalukiHawk

      Ransom? You think they’ll want Ransom?

  • BRANT BROWN

    Cubs trade Ryan Dempster to the Braves for Randall Delgado.

    [Edit: We’re not doing the jokey “Breaking News” stuff today.]

    • Austin8466

      What might’ve been…

      • Serious Cubs Fan

        If the Dempster deal with the Braves happens then we don’t get Arodys Vizcaino, who IMO has much more upside, but a little more risk because of the small frame and injury history. Arodys Vizcaino has a much more electric arm then Delgado. Delgado is a little less risky and will probably end up being a mid-bottom rotation starter for a while but I’d take the risk with Vzciano, because if it doesn’t work out for him in the rotation then you got a great bullpen arm.

        Delgado really hasn’t been that impressive thus far in his career yet he’s still young.

        http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/delgara01.shtml

    • X The Cubs Fan

      Thanks Brett.

  • http://It'searly Mike F

    At AAA unlike some of the spin, the odor Olt creates continues, BA of .208 OBP .211 , the worst comparison I’ve seen is to a 23 year old Anthony Rizzo. Rizzo never struggled in the minors like this soon to be 25 year old. I guess we can let Rowson and his crew do for him what he has our young guys. If that’s the 3 and no PTBNL, i think its long on gamble short on substance.

  • Cubsfan21

    Why are we even talking about the Indians right now when its “99%” Garza to the Rangers pending medicals? Did I miss something?

    I know anything can happen….I just feel like I’m missing out on some info?

    • Hansman1982

      I’m sure that if the rangers back out, the cubs will go to other teams. Might as well keep them engaged right now.

    • jeff1969

      I think Cleveland gets mentioned because we’re all having fun speculating. That’s all. So let’s mention them some more! I do think that Chisenhall would be a nice pick up though. How about a package deal involving maybe like Russell, Gregg, Valbuena, for Danny Salazar & Lonnie Chisenhall? I’m hoping obviously that Olt gets dropped from the Garza trade in this case.

  • Mr. Cubster
    • Chad

      From April 16th.

  • Ricky

    Ben Devine โ€@Chicago_NFL_NBA 4m
    Matt Garza to the Rangers is 99.9% done. Finishing medical records right now. Cubs get Olt, CJ Edwards, Neil Ramirez & 2 more.

    • Mark S

      I’d be very pleased if this is true.

    • Augiepb

      5 for 1 would be crazy

    • SalukiHawk

      This is an unsourced tweet that keeps getting retweeted. This is NOT happening.

  • NotThatAssman22

    Olt, Perez, Jackson, Edwards for Garza and Schierholtz pending physicals.

    As I said before, deal will be announced by 5.

    [You guys put me in an awkward position. Without saying whether Assman’s information is legit or not, folks should know that this person is not the Assman that you’ve come to know.]

    • Hansman1982

      Holy mother of god.

      • Crockett

        I just J’d in my P’s and I don’t care who knows!

        • On The Farm

          And your open-ness is what make the BN a family not a group of random people

        • gocatsgo2003

          Anything from the Great White North on the topic?

          • On The Farm

            Canada?

    • http://bleachernation.com someday…2015?

      PEREZ? Martin Perez?!

    • Ricky

      If that’s the package we are receiving, I’d say that’s a HUGE win.

    • Mark S

      Woah. Perez??? I hope this is true.

    • Jed Jam Band

      Wait, Perez? Really?! Oh, that would be so sweet!

    • Dudeski

      I want to believe

    • http://bleachernation.com someday…2015?

      If this is true I’m going out and celebrating tonight. Amazing deal!

    • Mick

      Holy hell, if that’s the return, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGVZKo41pYk

    • mdavis

      wow, parted with perez? if this is correct, very good haul in my opinion. Lake takes over RF?

      • afinch

        Lake apparently is playing center tonight. Sappelt in right.

    • cub2014

      Martin Perez?

    • On The Farm

      Is anyone else disappointed we won’t see Rusin because we got Perez?

      • Tank

        very much so

    • afinch

      I hope you are 100% right…..

    • Neil

      I honestly hope after this trade DOESNT happen, you don’t say its because “the rangers saw something in the medicals that scared them”

      • Mick

        The definition of Neil’ing.

    • Carew

      If this is true, holy crap

    • http://twitter.com/Brad_S_Brewer Brad Brewer

      I’m at work, but I just jumped up out of my desk and started into the Hallelujah Corus! lol

    • cubchymyst

      Holy shit, I just walked home from work and was hoping for some good news. If this comes to fruition that will be an amazing return.

    • Dustin S

      We’re all hoping you’re right Assman. If that’s really the deal it’s a jaw dropping haul.

    • EvenBetterNewV2.0

      Why don’t you call yourself Boobman or something if you are the opposite of Assman? Mind… Blown…

      • EvenBetterNewV2.0

        I must say, I am LMAO at everyone’s response to the troll of Assman. More than likely from PSD since he isn’t very well thought of over there. We are NOT getting Perez with that haul. I would be willing to lay my house on it unless his arm had blown up in his sleep. The person that did it, did it with the purpose of making Assman look like a fool when the trade he stated couldn’t be further from the truth.

        • SalukiHawk

          Agreed, why even talk about such outlandish nonsense. If I’d known there were so many gullible people out there, I would have doubled my offer beachfront property south of Phoenix.

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