matt garza cubsHere we go …

Ken Rosenthal reports that Matt Garza will not make his start tonight for the Chicago Cubs as expected. Instead, sources tell him, a deal with the Rangers is “near.” That’s is for details so far, but I expect this to develop in the next few hours.

In case you missed it, the Cubs nearly completed a trade involving Garza on Friday. Although you had to do some dot-connecting to get there, it appeared that the package was Garza and another Cub (possibly James Russell) for third base prospect Mike Olt, infield prospect Luis Sardinas, and pitching prospects C.J. Edwards and Neil Ramirez. A medical issue caught the Cubs’ eye after the exchange of records, and the deal was temporarily held up.

We’ll see if the ultimate package – assuming this deal with the Rangers actually goes down now – is similar.

UPDATE: Jon Heyman also reports that Garza has been scratched for tonight, and a deal with the Rangers is close.

UPDATE 2 (3:59pm CT): Jerry Crasnick isn’t quite hearing the same thing as Heyman and Rosenthal, instead saying only that the talks between the Cubs and Rangers have picked back up. He adds that another involved club tells him that the Rangers are making “another big push” to get a deal done.

UPDATE 3 (4:03pm CT): Oh my – Jeff Passan, who initially reported the “snag” on Friday night, now reports that Garza is going to the Rangers.

UPDATE 4 (4:04pm CT): Buster Olney says a deal with Texas is “close.” They were the “most motivated.”

UPDATE 5 (4:04pm CT): Mike Olt is in the deal, per Jeff Passan.

UPDATE 6 (4:06pm CT): Dave Kaplan says the deal is “being finalized,” but not quite done.

UPDATE 7 (4:07pm CT): Jeff Wilson reports that young Rangers reliever Joe Ortiz could be involved. He’s already having success at the big league level at 22, so it’s fair to wonder if he’s been substituted into the deal, given the Cubs’ concerns about Neil Ramirez (again, per Wilson). Wilson says the Rangers did have health concerns about Garza, for whatever that’s worth.

UPDATE 8 (4:10pm CT): Rosenthal reports that it’s Garza for Olt, C.J. Edwards, and a third player.

UPDATE 9 (4:11pm CT): Passan says it’s actually Olt, Edwards, a third player, AND a player to be named later. Evan Grant reports that he’s heard two versions of the package, with one being Olt/Edwards/Ramirez, and one being Olt/Edwards/Rougned Odor (a very good second base prospects at the lower levels).

UPDATE 10 (4:13pm CT): Kaplan says it’s a done deal, and Garza is a Ranger.

UPDATE 11 (4:16pm CT): Jon Heyman says the deal is done pending medicals, and we know how that can go. Unless the replacement piece has any issues, this is going to happen.

UPDATE 12 (4:23pm CT): Although the Cubs aren’t yet ready to announce the deal, they have identified Chris Rusin as tonight’s starter, according to multiple reports.

UPDATE 13 (4:25pm CT): Jeff Passan reports that the final package includes Major League starter Justin Grimm, making it Garza for Olt/Edwards/Grimm and a PTBNL. If so, that’s a hell of a nice haul (albeit a slightly flawed one) for Garza.

UPDATE 14 (4:27pm CT): Grimm, 24, hasn’t had big league success yet, but he’s the same age as Neil Ramirez and already in the bigs (minor league track record is short and decent for Grimm). That’s a nice substitution right there (I’m assuming that Sardinas was dropped because the “other Cub” was dropped).

UPDATE 15 (4:30pm CT): Passan says it was the A’s involvement that spurred the Rangers to “up the ante,” meaning that those involved believed Grimm is an upgrade from Ramirez. I think I’d agree.

UPDATE 16 (4:34pm CT): Gordon Wittenmyer reports that the PTBNL list *includes* Neil Ramirez. If true, this deal is a huge, huge haul for the Cubs. No one else has said anything about the caliber of players on the PTBNL list, or if it’s contingent on anything (like Justin Grimm’s current forearm soreness becoming something more serious).

UPDATE 17 (4:41pm CT): This might be the last update until this thing goes official. When that happens, and some dust settles, I’ll have more on the prospects involved, and an overall evaluation of the trade. Right now, gut says: very solid return for Garza, and just about what I’d expected all along (top 100ish prospect (Olt), and two organizational top 15s (Grimm and Edwards (yes, I know it’s debatable how high up they are – Edwards is borderline top 100 at this point, and Grimm no longer is technically a prospect)). If that PTBNL ends up being someone like Ramirez, then it goes from solid return to oh-wow-seriously-well-done-borderline-squeal.

  • RockSolid

    Olt and Grimm to Iowa. Edwards to daytona.

  • Brad Brewer
  • Matt

    Thank god a few of you aren’t scouts. We would be getting rid of players constantly after one bad season.

    • Brad Brewer

      So funny to hear a lot of guys try to write off EVERY prospect in our system… Smh

      • Earl Cunningham

        How many would’ve written off Maddux after his shitty rookie season?

  • Bric

    “Steve Holt!”… I mean “Mike Olt!”

    • Afinch

      Hi possible nephew!


    Nice deal for the Cubs. I doubt Garza would have return to the Cubs and the the Rangers can afford the deal . I think the front office did a good job.

  • nkniacc13

    Brett what does the 40 man situation now aren’t they at 40 as of start of day and with losing Garza but gaining 2 ( guessing Grimm and Olt are on 40) that means another move? Could they be making another trade today or early tomorrow to ease this situation?

  • kmr1453

    Now saying 3 plus 2 PTBNL for Garza.

  • Nmints

    This is another great move made by the front office. We traded a player who we were not going to extend for a top 100 player and a couple players who should have solid impact at the major league level. Best case scenario we have a sold starting 3rd baseman and two pitchers to play with (starting and bullpen).

    A lot of cubs fans don’t realize what kind of position the front office is putting us in. All of these trades, great drafts, international prospect signings, etc. are all leading to us having a top farm system year in and year out. A trade like this may not bring back an ace, or a bonifide all star, but what it does do is give us even more pieces we can use in future trades, roster moves, and quality high level depth. It’s a reBUILDING process and I feel absolutely confident that the front office has laid down the foundation that will allow us to be competitive for a long, long time.

  • sossa

    Now we trade Soriano and gregg to Tampa for Desmond jennings and another arm and then we will have something really going. Trade schierholtz to seattle for pitching prospect and Milton Bradley’s mental evaluation.

    • Jon

      What makes you say that the Rays would be trading Desmond Jennings. I would love this deal but I don’t see that happening.

  • thejackal

    i think we all overlook the fact we got all this for a 2 month rental .. I BELIEVE ITS A GOOD HAUL. now its time for a BN poll how many for and how many against what we got back in the trade? im for

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  • shane mcconnell

    Great retrospective about all of this is I bet the cubs sign Garza in the off-season. If that happens #1 jeff samardzija #2 Matt Garza #3 Edwin Jackson #4 Matt Wood #5 Miguel Alfredo seems like a beast rotation to me.

    • Chad

      Who is Matt Wood? Don’t put much into resigning Garza. I will go with about 0.5%

      • shane mcconnell

        Meant travis wood my friends name is matt wood haha

  • Derek

    ESPN and MLBTR saying we got 5 players for Garza. Anyone else read it that way?

  • miggy80

    The one day I’m super busy at work and I can’t get to BN and I miss the Garza trade go down in updates!

  • johnny chess Aka 2much2say

    PTBNL are probably contingent on Garza’s health. It will be either 1 player (Ramirez) or 2 low level substitutes.

    • nkniacc13

      nope its cubs choice so Garza health has no barring

      • johnny chess Aka 2much2say

        It has been reported Ramirez or 2 PTBNL They have 6 months to decide. Also Garza Elbow issue pulled Odor from deal and added Grimm. So the PTBNL is contingent on Garza’s health.

        • Crockett

          You’re wrong. Let it go.

  • praying the cubs get ready to win

    Front office did a great job. Time will tell if they did an amazing job with this trade. I am certain there will be a couple more trades this week.

  • JayPaul

    If Nick Martinez is player B or C, i think id like to see the Cubs pass on Ramirez, and grab the 2 PTBNL. I believe i read Hoyer stated that all players on agreed list are pitchers, so this could very well be the case. Martinez + a similar upside play would trump Ramirez for me, while adding yet another egg to the basket.