matt garza cubsHere we go …

Ken Rosenthal reports that Matt Garza will not make his start tonight for the Chicago Cubs as expected. Instead, sources tell him, a deal with the Rangers is “near.” That’s is for details so far, but I expect this to develop in the next few hours.

In case you missed it, the Cubs nearly completed a trade involving Garza on Friday. Although you had to do some dot-connecting to get there, it appeared that the package was Garza and another Cub (possibly James Russell) for third base prospect Mike Olt, infield prospect Luis Sardinas, and pitching prospects C.J. Edwards and Neil Ramirez. A medical issue caught the Cubs’ eye after the exchange of records, and the deal was temporarily held up.

We’ll see if the ultimate package – assuming this deal with the Rangers actually goes down now – is similar.

UPDATE: Jon Heyman also reports that Garza has been scratched for tonight, and a deal with the Rangers is close.

UPDATE 2 (3:59pm CT): Jerry Crasnick isn’t quite hearing the same thing as Heyman and Rosenthal, instead saying only that the talks between the Cubs and Rangers have picked back up. He adds that another involved club tells him that the Rangers are making “another big push” to get a deal done.

UPDATE 3 (4:03pm CT): Oh my – Jeff Passan, who initially reported the “snag” on Friday night, now reports that Garza is going to the Rangers.

UPDATE 4 (4:04pm CT): Buster Olney says a deal with Texas is “close.” They were the “most motivated.”

UPDATE 5 (4:04pm CT): Mike Olt is in the deal, per Jeff Passan.

UPDATE 6 (4:06pm CT): Dave Kaplan says the deal is “being finalized,” but not quite done.

UPDATE 7 (4:07pm CT): Jeff Wilson reports that young Rangers reliever Joe Ortiz could be involved. He’s already having success at the big league level at 22, so it’s fair to wonder if he’s been substituted into the deal, given the Cubs’ concerns about Neil Ramirez (again, per Wilson). Wilson says the Rangers did have health concerns about Garza, for whatever that’s worth.

UPDATE 8 (4:10pm CT): Rosenthal reports that it’s Garza for Olt, C.J. Edwards, and a third player.

UPDATE 9 (4:11pm CT): Passan says it’s actually Olt, Edwards, a third player, AND a player to be named later. Evan Grant reports that he’s heard two versions of the package, with one being Olt/Edwards/Ramirez, and one being Olt/Edwards/Rougned Odor (a very good second base prospects at the lower levels).

UPDATE 10 (4:13pm CT): Kaplan says it’s a done deal, and Garza is a Ranger.

UPDATE 11 (4:16pm CT): Jon Heyman says the deal is done pending medicals, and we know how that can go. Unless the replacement piece has any issues, this is going to happen.

UPDATE 12 (4:23pm CT): Although the Cubs aren’t yet ready to announce the deal, they have identified Chris Rusin as tonight’s starter, according to multiple reports.

UPDATE 13 (4:25pm CT): Jeff Passan reports that the final package includes Major League starter Justin Grimm, making it Garza for Olt/Edwards/Grimm and a PTBNL. If so, that’s a hell of a nice haul (albeit a slightly flawed one) for Garza.

UPDATE 14 (4:27pm CT): Grimm, 24, hasn’t had big league success yet, but he’s the same age as Neil Ramirez and already in the bigs (minor league track record is short and decent for Grimm). That’s a nice substitution right there (I’m assuming that Sardinas was dropped because the “other Cub” was dropped).

UPDATE 15 (4:30pm CT): Passan says it was the A’s involvement that spurred the Rangers to “up the ante,” meaning that those involved believed Grimm is an upgrade from Ramirez. I think I’d agree.

UPDATE 16 (4:34pm CT): Gordon Wittenmyer reports that the PTBNL list *includes* Neil Ramirez. If true, this deal is a huge, huge haul for the Cubs. No one else has said anything about the caliber of players on the PTBNL list, or if it’s contingent on anything (like Justin Grimm’s current forearm soreness becoming something more serious).

UPDATE 17 (4:41pm CT): This might be the last update until this thing goes official. When that happens, and some dust settles, I’ll have more on the prospects involved, and an overall evaluation of the trade. Right now, gut says: very solid return for Garza, and just about what I’d expected all along (top 100ish prospect (Olt), and two organizational top 15s (Grimm and Edwards (yes, I know it’s debatable how high up they are – Edwards is borderline top 100 at this point, and Grimm no longer is technically a prospect)). If that PTBNL ends up being someone like Ramirez, then it goes from solid return to oh-wow-seriously-well-done-borderline-squeal.

  • Jon

    Dale Svuem FTW again!

    • wax_eagle

      poke face… face

  • Kygavin

    Hopefully this isnt another let down like last week…

  • nkniacc13

    Wonder if its him by himself this time

  • zack

    Love the work but one little typo it instead of is


      You’re a douchebag

      • zack

        Today, yes. Normally not

  • Jp3

    Where’s Rusin? I’m pretty sure Rosenthal said he was pretty close to 100% garza would throw tonight.. I’m sure he’s enjoying this

    • On The Farm

      RUSIN CAN!

    • willis

      He was surely to be traded, and then he was 100% going to start tonight. And now this. As the world turns…

      I really hope it was the Rangers who got desperate and not the Cubs.

      • m@

        The Rangers must have blinked, I can’t imagine Theo would be desperate at this stage of the game – he’s got plenty of time.

  • William

    Dale Svuem’s job is to prepare as if Garza I going to pitch.

  • willis

    Rats, wanted to see him one more time. Hate to see him go.

    Better be a good return.

  • Andrewmoore4isu

    Same song new tune?

  • Kygavin

    Easy solution just move Wood up a day.I doubt there is enough time to call someone up

    • nkniacc13

      unless they had someone on their way just in case.

      • Kygavin

        Unless they had someone on the way yes haha

    • willis

      Yep, then who gets the nod tomorrow? Rusin is supposed to start tonight, so they could pull him I guess. Not sure other options. There are no good ones.

      • On The Farm


        • nkniacc13

          I doubt it because they will keep him down work on control and save the Super 2 year

        • Adarecub

          Arrietta pitched over the weekend. Might have a bearing on it

  • Kramden

    My guess is Olt’s out, Jackson’s in.

    • DReese


    • nkniacc13

      idk why they would do that when cubs didn’t want Jackson in the original deal

      • Kramden

        Just a WAG on my part solely because the Cub talent is at the lower levels, which they can continue to fill in as they go along.

    • DReese

      Olt is in the deal

      • nkniacc13

        wonder if he gets flipped

  • DReese

    WFT! REALLY? I was ready to let my F5 key relax tonight.

    • YourResidentJag

      Funny my F5 key doesn’t do this. Must have an inferior product.

  • mudge

    There’s still a 14% chance that he’ll start.

  • jpeck

    Is this Friday’s story or todays? —- Lets get it done.

  • Jon

    I’m still hoping they caved on Martin Perez

  • X the Cubs Fan

    So no Pirates or Indians? :(

  • Sweet Swinging 26

    I would love to get Feliz or Perez, but bet it is an arm further away from having major league impact.

    • willis

      More of those…yes!

  • YourResidentJag

    I predict 1000 responses to this thread by midnight. I want a Brett counter.

  • chrisfchi

    If he is traded tonight, thoughts on who would take his spot on the roster?

    • Kygavin

      I hope Arrieta. I had enough watching Raley and Rusin getting blown up last year to last a lifetime

      • chrisfchi

        I hope its not rusin also. he helped provide the only lost ive ever seen sitting in the bleachers. ruined my 35 game streak of not paying to see a loss at wrigley

      • CubsFaninMS

        Raley + Rusin = Cubs-logo punching bag

      • Jay

        You ain’t kidding. Raley throws batting practice.

    • On The Farm

      Rusin until Baker is ready to re-join the rotation

      • willis

        GROSS. And even Grosser when it’s Baker.

        Guaranteed losses every 5th day for the rest of the year. Ick.

  • jpeck

    I think Olt had 2 HR’s against Iowa this last weekend. I say Olt is still in.

    • Cizzle

      1/11, HR, 6Ks

      • jpeck

        Iowa website had Olt 1-3 on saturday with a 3run HR. sunday he was 2-3 with another 3run HR

  • Dustin S

    Jerry Crasnick ‏@jcrasnick 2m
    Official from another team in Garza sweepstakes said the #rangers are making another big push for him. #cubs

    Not a lot new there…but passing along for the fellow news starved.

  • TonyP

    If that is the trade, are we happy???

  • nkniacc13

    I would be shocked if its just him and hope they get better players

  • Believe in 2015

    Giddy up boys! It’s time to ride the night away

  • Jp3

    I’m thinking with the Rangers falling further back of the A’s and having TBA god knows how many SP matchups this week they hopefully caved. I think they had more to lose by not making this deal.

    • Rebuilding

      Supposedly Darvish and Ogando are going to start the next two nights and Colby Lewis is only a “few weeks away”. I had started to lose a little hope that the Rangers were still in play OR is Perez now in play

  • North Side Irish

    John Arguello ‏@CubsDen 2m
    Just heard deal may be for less players but better quality. #cubs

    • Dustin S

      Tempering expectations, but I’m liking the better quality talk…

    • Jp3

      I’m thinking this could be awesome or pitchforkS

  • falselife

    Hey may be scratched as a show of good will as they attempt to complete a deal.

  • Ash

    C’mon people, if Sveum really thought Garza was going to pitch he would have said he was “110% sure”.

    • Spriggs

      He would have said, “I’m ya know, uh, 110% sure…”

  • Jon

    Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 5m
    Mike Olt is going to the Cubs.

  • chrisfchi

    Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 2m
    Mike Olt is going to the Cubs.

  • caryatid62

    “I’ve never seen any of the players the Cubs will be getting for Garza, and only heard of them last Friday, but based upon their pages on baseball-reference, the Cubs got screwed on this deal!”

    –most of the internet, later tonight