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alfonso soriano hittingAlfonso Soriano has had the appropriate conversations with Chicago Cubs management about the possibility of a trade, and the 37-year-old outfielder is apparently now on board.

Soriano, who is sitting out tonight – purportedly on a regularly-scheduled day off – met with Theo Epstein and Dale Sveum last night (Carrie Muskat) and confirmed that he was willing to accept a trade to certain teams, one of which is the New York Yankees. That, of course, is notable, because Soriano/Yankees rumors have been swirling since the wee hours of Tuesday morning.

With only one more year left on his contract with the Cubs, and seeing that the team is not going to compete for a playoff spot this year – and maybe not next year, either – Soriano told the media that, while he’s comfortable in Chicago, “sometimes we have to move.” (Patrick Mooney) When asked about how serious a trade possibility now seems, Soriano wouldn’t call it 100%, but said it’s the closest it’s been in recent years. (Carrie Muskat)

Although it may not happen tonight, it now very much sounds like Soriano will be dealt before next Wednesday’s non-waiver Trade Deadline (though, with his contract, he’d be easy enough to trade in August, as well). The Cubs have been fielding calls from teams other than the Yankees, and it remains to be seen – if ever – what teams are on Soriano’s list. We know, for now, only about the Yankees. And, let’s be frank, trading Soriano to the Yankees makes sense for so many reasons that they are probably the strong favorite.

UPDATE: Soriano tells the media (Carrie Muskat) that today’s day off was Dale Sveum’s idea, and was to give Soriano a chance to “clear his mind.” That strikes me as a very good, respectful approach.

UPDATE 2 (8:18pm CT): Theo Epstein tells Carrie Muskat that Soriano asked for a couple days to think things over before anything becomes official, so we won’t be hearing anything tonight (about Soriano officially being on board with a hypothetical trade, let alone the completion of an actual trade; that said, it sounds like he’s OK with a trade to the Yankees, even if he wants a little time to sleep on it). “He’ll let us know where he’ll go, if anywhere. At that point, it’s up to us if we want to move forward and finalize a deal,” Epstein told Muskat. So, there may or may not be a specific deal on the table with the Yankees. All we know is that the Cubs expect to know from Soriano within the next couple of days where he’ll definitively accept a trade, and the Cubs can finalize things from there – with whichever team – if they are so inclined. It sounds almost like a formal pre-approval for a trade – maybe it’s something the Cubs want after being burned by the informal nature of their discussions with Ryan Dempster last year.

  • X the Cubs fan

    Ill give them Soriano, Russell and Castillo for Sanchez and Whitley. Yankees probably would laugh but maybe we could make them think Castillo is going to be really good.

  • Matt

    That would have been the same comment a Cardinal fan would have said about Molina when he was the same age.

  • Matt

    Give Castillo a chance.

    • X the Cubs fan

      I like Castillo, I think he’ll be a good major league regular but Sanchez has Yadier Molina upside with 7 grade power potential.

      • X the Cubs fan

        He’s about AA ready also.

        • Carew

          AA is very different from MLB also

  • Paul AssenmachWAR

    Watching Samardizja barrel over Darwin Barney is much more entertaining if you imagine Jim Ross calling it. “Mah Gawd, a forearm shiver by Jeff, and I think Darwin’s dead!”

  • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

    Scouting Book place’s the Cubs farm at #2, ahead of Cards :http://www.scoutingbook.com/farms/

    • Blublud

      This would make more sense if they didn’t still have Fujikawa in the rankings.

      • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

        Well, he’s still on a roster, right?

        I didn’t say it was a GREAT site. But is a tool.

    • Mr. B. Patient

      And if you study it, the Cubs are probably #1. Three of Seattle’s top 6 have graduated, so their ranking would probably go down.

  • Bsteady

    Yeah give him a chance. His catching gets better every day. And I love his willingness and ability to use right field!

    • Stogie

      The problem with Castillo is he’s our starting catcher, but he only has 15 RBI. This is the 99th game. I haven’t looked, but he’s gotta have the worst SLG % in the majors by catcher.

  • johnny chess Aka 2much2say

    Lake Lake Show Double trouble

  • Rich

    Please don’t trade Nate
    Please

    • Brent

      SELL HIGH!!!

  • DarthHater

    This business about Soriano needing a couple days to think is a bunch of crap. Not only has the entire world known for several years that the Cubs were trying to trade him, but he himself said before the season started that he would want to be traded if the Cubs were out of contention. So, only NOW does he finally get around to putting together a list of teams to which he would consider a trade? There are only 30 f-ing teams in MLB. How many goddam months does it take to read a list of 30 cities and decide which ones you don’t want to move to? And the Yankees not only have been the most likely trade destination for him for months, but he has played there before. The only reason why he “needs time” to make up his mind now is because he wants to piss out the boundaries of his territory to prove how important he is.

    • Jp3

      Awesome😝

      • DarthHater

        Grrrr ;-)

    • Jp3

      I don’t believe I’ve seen you so animated On a subject around here like that. I think your legitimately ticked off. I agree with this message 100%, maybe not as emphatically but yeah he’s being a little bitch about it. I bet he doesn’t even live in Chicago in the offseason anyways.

      • DarthHater

        You must not have heard me on the subject of Dempster about a year ago. :-D

    • Blublud

      This is absurd. He earned his no trade and his 10/5. I personally hope turns down a trade to the Yanks and stays a Cub through next deadline. I don’t see a reason to force him out of town. But even if he except, he has right to do it on his terms and he earned those rights.

      I agree it shouldn’t take that, be obviously doesn’t agree.

      • Blublud

        Huh

        • Jp3

          I agree, huh? That’s last part lost me. He’s got the right to say no and we’ve got the right to start Dejesus, sweeney and Lake ahead of him for the rest of his career. Ride off into the sunset with a ring or ride off with splinters in his ass

      • DarthHater

        He has the right to make his decision however he wants and I have the right to think and say what I please about it.

        • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

          Amen Darth, you used the force there.

        • Jason Parker

          Why are you being so hard on Soriano? He’s earned the right to choose where he plays. Also, if you had played on the same team for 6 1/2 years, wouldn’t you want a couple f-ing days to prepare to leave?

    • mjhurdle

      hmm, so strange that someone would take a couple days to decide the future for both them and their families.
      just because most Cub fans let things happen first, then judge after the fact whether it was good or not does not mean that it is the best way to approach life decisions :)

      • DarthHater

        As I said before, he has already had months to think about this decision and he himself anticipated it before the season started. It’s got nothing to do with his family. He’s just flexing his ability to delay for the sake of doing it, same as Dempster did.

        • mjhurdle

          your level of assumption regarding both your understanding Soriano’s life circumstances and his intentions regarding asking time to consider a trade border on Timmy level.

          i admit that i have no idea whether what you say is true or not. it is certainly possible that he is simply doing this to massage his ego. But, in my opinion, it says a lot about your pre-existing opinion of Soriano that you would jump immediately and resolutely to the idea that he is simply being an egomaniac.

          • Jp3

            You are correct that I don’t know much about Soriano’s personal life but I know that they make satin sheets and plush pillows in NYC just as good as Chicago assuming you’re making $18 mill a year and I just get tired of him talking out of both sides of his mouth. He was quoted as saying earlier this year, (I’ll paraphrase) that he wanted to stay in Chicago but if we’re not going to have a chance to win and I’m not part of the rebuilding process it’ll probably be time to move on. Which part of that statement isn’t active right now? Just say hey I love it here and no way in hell I’m leaving unless they cut me. I’d actually be ok with that but the penis measuring with the front office is what irks me.

            • mjhurdle

              i agree with some of that. However, i think maybe the fact that 18 million provides the same life in any city means that Soriano has/wants to consider things outside what the average person looks at when determining his destination.
              And as far as his quote, where did he say he will go wherever and whenever the cubs decide?

              This is really similar to the ridiculous notion that was tossed around that Kris bryant was not a team player because he didn’t take less money in order to let the Cubs sign other players.
              Why should Soriano give up the rights that he has earned simply because it would benefit an organization and its fans, most of which dont appreciate anything he has done? Why did so many fans defend Bryant, a rookie that has contributed nothing to the Cubs, yet attack Soriano for doing the same thing?
              People have a right to their opinions, just would be nice if they were consistent :)

              • Jp3

                He never said he’ll do whatever the Cubs want but he did say when. When we are out of the hunt… I’d say its safe to say that now we’re
                Long out of it. I’m not even asking him to do what’s best for the organization, he was quoted THIS WEEK saying he’d like to go out a winner… Bad news friend, it won’t be here this year or his final contract year. He wants to win, go somewhere and win. Good for him, everyone wins.

                • mjhurdle

                  but he hasn’t even said no. all he asked was a couple days to think about it.
                  Whether we want to admit it or not, he has earned this right. And the fact that he is even working with the organization is more than he technically has to do.
                  Not to mention the premise of this argument is that Soriano doesn’t like the organization to the extent the he wants to get into a ego-match with them, yet he is deliberately sabotaging the attempts to move him to a new “better’ organization.
                  he is getting paid no matter where he is.
                  IMO, this whole thing is blown out of proportion by a) his ridiculous contract and b) media reports of what did or didn’t happen and how last year.
                  Again, it is always possible that he is simply a jerk. but there is as much if not more evidence against that idea that you have to ignore if you want to believe that Soriano is simply in a pissing match with the organization.

                  • Jp3

                    I don’t think he’s a jerk, I think he’s earned his rights. By all accounts he’s a great teammate, i just hate it when people are indecisive. That is definitely what he’s being, Carrie Muskat got the lowdown today that he said NY is on his list but then talks out the other side of his mouth and says hold up I’m just saying I would go there, not necessarily now though. We’re just going to have to agree to disagree on this one MJ. In the honor of all the Lebowski quoting tonight, I’ll sign off with, “well that’s like…your opinion man”.

          • D.G.Lang

            Very well said.

            I fully appreciate your comment about the poster raising to ‘Timmy level’ with his absurd and hateful comments.

            I try to stay polite on message boards and not criticize others but sometimes people are simply so wrong in their behavior that someone needs to say something and put an end to the garbage.

            Thank you

        • Jason Parker

          Is Soriano texting you his thoughts from the dugout? If not, how are you making these assumptions?

        • Jason Parker

          I’m waiting for your response Darth…

          • waittilthisyear

            i started reading this thread w/o having a strong opinion either way, and ive got to say, darth makes a good point. and i like soriano (overall)

      • Geo

        A few days? This has been going on for a couple yrs, didnt they try trading him last year ? Are you slow in the head? This didnt come out of nowhere! Get your head out of your behind & pay attention!!

    • wasssup

      Its times like these that I would rather have Die Hard’s witty comments than your over the top rants. Soriano has done an admirable job for the cubs and he deserves to do, what he pleases, for him. He owes us nothing. We can bitch and moan about his contract, but he has been loyal, faithful, and has played hard, while healthy, for us. He’s not a Braun, he’s legit.

      • SirCub

        Hahaha, did you really just call Die Hard’s comments “witty” ?

        • wasssup

          adjective wit·ti·er, wit·ti·est.
          1. possessing wit in speech or writing; amusingly clever in perception and expression

          Yes. I did.

          • SirCub

            ha, alright. I guess everybody can drawn their own conclusions about what constitutes a comment being, “amusingly clever in perception and expression.”

            • TWC

              No. Wassup is wrong.

              • SirCub

                Haha. That was clever.

            • wasssup

              He writes clever. Clever enough that people try to ‘shun’ him, which draws more chaos to the wittiness. All I am saying is that its easier to read a one liner of obnoxious than a cell phone screen of rant.

              • scorecardpaul

                I long for the day when I never see another diehard post on here again. crap like this makes him think that he is appreciated on this site. If you are really happy when you read his crap just tell me that you are, but I truly think you are just making fun of him. diehard is to thick to see your attempt at humor, and it just feeds his fire

              • D.G.Lang

                I agree that a simple one liner is less obnoxious than a screen full of garbage but hateful character assignation is still bad whether it is a simple witty ‘one liner’ or a full screen.

                We’ve had more than enough garbage talk on here and while some like Timmy went way beyond what is tolerable others seem to like to push the boundaries.

                To be honest, after awhile those ‘witty’ comments trashing others become as oppressive and contemptible as the full screen character assaults and wind up destroying not only the targets reputation along with the listeners who approve of them and totally destroy the posters reputation as well.

                In summary when people spew the same lies and libels three people wind up being harmed by them and the source is the one who deserves and winds up receiving the results of his own hateful statements.

  • Kyle

    Nobody let him talk to Fred McGriff for guidance.

    • Jp3

      Or Dumster

  • http://Bleachernation Lou Brock

    Pirates price for Schierholtz going up by the day. Glasnow has to be the target and we’ll throw in Valbuena as well.

  • Blublud

    Stewart Scott just said he was a Cubs fan and didn’t want to trade Garza.

  • http://Bleachernation Lou Brock

    Or Gregg if they want to throw Hanson our way.

  • Aaron

    Barney’s days at second are numbered. He made a big error this evening that allowed 2 runs to score. Batting average stands at .220. Time soon for a change at 2nd base with a player that can hit for average and can steal bases near the top of the order.

    • Rickyp024

      Slow it down a little. That was his 3rd error and the cubs are still up by 4. Why the rush to get rid of him? It’s not like we’re WS bound this year.

    • Brent

      The ball hit the base. That was not at all his fault. But I see Barney being a good utility/late inning replacement in the years to come. Just doesnt provide enough offense.

  • Starlin Backer

    Alcantara will be here by the time it’s important.

  • David

    Dudes… We’re gonna have so many prospects by the end of the trading period… We’re gonna take a stab at Price in the off season. Love it.

  • Bill

    I’m not sure about Price. Aside from the injury he had earlier this year, he’s going to cost you a haul of prospects, and he’s a FA in a couple years. Do the Cubs want to pay the money/years to offer him an extension? If we are going to trade away a lot of prospects, I’d rather do it on a younger guy, like Stanton.

    • Geo

      What is all the hype over Stanton????? You want all of his 6 dingers this year? You have valbuena for 150,000.For all we know he’s s juicer laying low in the weeds with all the noise going on with biogenesis.

      • hansman1982

        He has 11 homers, plays on a team where the starters high-water mark for OPS (outside of him) is below .700.

        Oh, and he hit 71 homers between his age 21 and 22 seasons.

      • mjhurdle

        maybe it is the hamstring, knee, and shoulder problems that have appeared already by age 23?

  • Aaron

    Glad to see how well Junior Lake is doing in the big show. He looks really good and he’s having a positive impact on the team. Just imagine how good this team will be with studs at 2nd and 3rd base.

  • Kramden
  • Believe in 2015

    Is it just me or does Junior Lake remind you of a young Sammy Sosa? That swing is just pure. I could watch those home runs all day long

    • Josh t

      Lake doesn’t so much remind me of Sosa bc of body type. I hate to say it but Puig reminds me a ton of Sosa. Lake is more like Shawon Dunston. Both great athletes but I think there approach the plate is very similar. They both hardly walk and have am extremely aggressive approach

      • SirCub

        I totally agree on the Puig-Sammy comp. They’re almost like dopplegangers.

      • Scotti

        Lake is MUCH bigger than Dunston was. A good 40 pounds bigger. Taller, too. Dunston was also one of the fastest players in the league and, while Lake has good speed, he isn’t in that same class.

        Lake is also a much more disciplined hitter than Dunston. If you threw the ball, Dunston swung. During his first go around with the Cubs, Dunston walked 163 times in 4405 PA (3.7% which is really, really bad). But 44 of those BB were intentional! That leaves him with a 2.7% non-intentional walk rate.

        Lake actually has had very disciplined AB’s. The reason his minor league walk rates are low has more to do with an extreme hitch he had early on that caused him to cheat (swing early–affecting the way he approach FB, anything with a bend, anything off speed and the AB in general). He’s a different hitter now. In 880 PA in AA/AAA Lake has walked 58 times (never intentionally) for 6.6% as opposed to 5.5% below AA. That’s actually a 17% difference and that’s significant.

        Long story short, Lake’s a rookie so he’ll swing at some stuff he shouldn’t but he is no Shawon Dunston (fortunately, neither is Shawon Dunston, Jr. with 40 BB in 401 PA).

  • CubsFaninMS

    Complete and utter prediction: We find out Soriano agrees to trade with Yankees for prospects tomorrow. It’s interesting the comparison between the Soriano trade and Garza trade. It sounds like the negotiations with the Yanks are advanced, yet we’re hearing very little about who might be in return. With the Garza trade, it sounds like someone in the front office was a reporter/mole for the Rangers. We had a play-by-play.

    • Jp3

      We’re not leaking anything because we don’t want to offend soriano’s delicate sensibilities in the morning.

  • AD

    Were there any Assman22 sightings today?

    • SirCub

      I think he said something about the Cubs not wanting Ramirez as the PTBNL, since he was put on the DL.

      • AD

        Thanks. I always enjoy the trade insights whether completely valid or not.

      • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

        Something about DL pitchers tends to do that.

        Oh, well. We got potential all ready. See how it all goes.

  • http://It'searly Mike F

    Soriano has earned what? I want to puke. We have so lowered out standards that Soriano is now some kind of hero. Like I said, this is an incredible job by some Theo, for all future GM’s of the world take a page from his book. As to Soriano, he is a patent underachiever who is paid an obscene amount of money. He was brought in to win a WS and has ushered in Manager dismissals and regime falls. But lets get drunk on kool aid and make him the hammer. Why not, he’s been using the screw for the life his contract on the cubs…………

    If Theo gets a warm to the touch prospect for Soriano we ought to be demanding a street be named after him…..

    • mudge

      Now I want to puke too.

    • Mr. B. Patient

      Actually, Soriano is a borderline HOF’er. A few more good years and he’ll exceed Dawson in most counting stats.

      Also, major league rules say 10/5 players have no trade rights. Soriano is a 10/5 player. Therefore, YES, Soriano has earned them.

      • iowacubs

        Soriano has trade rights cause of his no trade clause…not 10/5

        • jptopdog

          He would have no trade rights by now regardless of the clause in his contract.

        • daveyrosello

          You are very wrong. Soriano had (past tense) trade veto rights with a no-trade clause at the beginning of his contract. Beginning with last season, he achieved 5 years with the Cubs and that makes him a 10/5 guy, regardless of any contract provisions. In fact, AZP once posted the details of Soriano’s contract, it says right in there it has a no-trade clause for 2007 valid through 2011.

          All players with 10/5 status have no-trade veto rights.

  • jptopdog

    Not one of us would have turned down the contract Soriano signed. He dosen’t have to leave unless he wants to, same as last year. As much as has been said about his ego and such, could simply be he wants to prepare for the switch, family wise or whatever. About having all season to decide, maybe he wanted to block out the distraction. I would be more than happy to give him 2-3 days and approve it, than flat out turn it down as others suggest.

  • arta

    unless i read it wrong, Theo told Soriano it’s time to move on and let the kids play. so he may have no trade rights, but the Cubs don’t have to play him. just saying.

    • jptopdog

      That’s true, but the Cubs wouldn’t play hard ass like that with a veteran player, unless he really was a jag like Bradley. The FO is doning it the right way. Other clubs, players, FA will have an appreciation for that in the long run.

  • Cubsfan21

    I love the hate Soriano seems to get here for wanting to stay a Cub. When he was asked why he didn’t care to go to the Giants in a trade, one of the reasons was because he said when he signed his contract, he wanted to be part of a World Series in Chicago. He’s talked multiple times about how much he and his family love this city, loves being a Cub and even talked about how much he loved the fans here.

    This coming from a guy who spent a huge portion of his career being booed here from those same fans he loves. He never complained once. Most players would never put up with that shit the way Soriano has.

    A total class act and you can tell how much this guy means to the clubhouse. You can’t find a single Cub to talk bad about him. They all just rave about his work ethic and his willingness to help young players. Soriano owes us nothing and can take as long as he wants. He has earned that.

    • wvcubsfan

      Can not agree more!

    • mjhurdle

      100% agree

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