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at&t parkAlfonso Soriano is playing in New York already, and replacing him on the roster is Eduardo Sanchez, a waiver wire reliever stash about whom you’d probably already forgotten. Sanchez, 24, has pitched well in relief at AAA this year in every way … except the walks (6.3 per 9). He’s got upside, and it would be nice to see him take this job and roll with it. Otherwise, he’ll just be a temporary fill-in while the Cubs give the rest of the bullpen a break.

Edwin Jackson has been a better pitcher than Matt Cain this year, at least by the advanced stats.

Game Info

Chicago Cubs (45-55) at San Francisco Giants (46-55), 9:15 CT on WGN.

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Starting Pitchers

Edwin Jackson (6-11, 5.03 ERA, 3.62 FIP)

versus

Matt Cain (6-6, 5.00 ERA, 4.15 FIP)

San Francisco Giants Lineup

1. Gregor Blanco, CF

2. Tony Abreu, 2B

3. Buster Posey, C

4. Pablo Sandoval, 3B

5. Hunter Pence, RF

6. Brandon Belt, 1B

7. Jeff Francoeur, LF

8. Brandon Crawford, SS

9. Matt Cain, P

Chicago Cubs Lineup

1. David DeJesus, CF

2. Junior Lake, LF

3. Anthony Rizzo, 1B

4. Nate Schierholtz, RF

5. Starlin Castro, SS

6. Luis Valbuena, 3B

7. Darwin Barney, 2B

8. Welington Castillo, C

9. Edwin Jackson, P

  • COW142

    I like it! 2x CF’s and no LF’er… Innovative!

    • Kurt

      That Lake kid’s got speeeeed, speeeed, demon speed, (sorry, having a Rocky II flashback). He’ll just play both fields, like we used to occasionally do in Navy softball.

  • Mike S

    Brett,
    Who’s playing left?

  • William

    So, does that mean we can put a fourth outfielder in left? Good luck getting a hit San Francisco!

  • Ivy Walls

    Mascut writes that Lake is LF against RHP and CF against LHP, but Assman 22 says Cubs and Pitt were talking about Schierholtz and Gregg, so how long for this? Clue, Bogusevic off DL Tuesday.

    • Jp3

      5days or less😁

  • college_of_coaches

    Wow, Javier Baez just took a walk!!!

    • another JP

      Was a beautiful BB by Javy, 7 pitch AB & he swung once. The guy’s figuring it out at AA, and if he had enough ABs to qualify his .875 OPS entering tonight’s game would lead the league. Not bad for a 20 y/o whippersnapper.

      • college_of_coaches

        Nice

  • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

    If that deal goes through, we may get more clarity as to DeJesus et. al. in the OF.

    Lake I think, depending on his regression, will get all the time he needs to be a future OF/utility guy.

    It will be also interesting to see how much the Cubs target starting pitching – veterans like Halladay and now, Hudson – are 2014 FAs. They are not what they were, and of course, injury recovery may not be all that, but I think they are 1-2 year deal guys for up to 10/11 mil (Maddux was at 10 mil in 2008) you can justify if only for their vet presence and drawing power (not saying it is awesome – but Halladay, was pretty darn good just 2-3 years ago.)

    Again, emphasis, on health. Course it is risk/reward thing.

    Plus, if say, Roy is doing well enough, we’d flip them at the deadline in 2014, assuming we are out of it, for prospects. Otherwise, we’ll be pretty pleased.

    Just a thought towards 2014.

  • KidCubbie

    Crazy stat from the Yankees. They haven’t had a HR from a right handed batter since May 23rd. Ouch.

  • http://Bleachernation Lou Brock

    Grimm getting his ass handed to him at Iowa , 8 runs in 3 innings.

    • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

      Puns begin: Grimm’s fairy tale starts in Iowa; unhappy ending

  • http://Bleachernation Lou Brock

    Early returns from Garza deal says Rangers winners. Grimm gets blown out of first start and Olt has 1 hit in 3 games.

    • #23

      I would guess they have Grimm working on some adjustments at Iowa, so I wouldn’t read too much into his early results.

      • Serious Cubs Fan

        If Grimm can develop a half way decent change up then he could hopefully be a solid #4 or #5 in a rotation

      • Drew7

        “Its only been 4 days, so I wouldn’t read too much into the results”

        FTFY

        • Eternal Pessimist

          They just need to remove the splinter from his paw…and then…

    • Serious Cubs Fan

      Are we going to have to put Grimm on the 40 man roster? Bc that is thats going to be head ache fitting him in the 40 man roster next year bc he’s a project. We are already going to have enough 40 man roster problems during this upcoming offseason

      • Jason Powers

        Id say hes Bullpen material only…2013 offseason to work on 3rd pitch. Then eval in spring.

        • Serious Cubs Fan

          Yeah he’s probably a bullpen guy, but I bet the FO will let start in the rotation next season and hope he develops that third pitch (change-up), and midseason if it just isn’t working out then they’ll throw him in the bullpen, which I think he’ll be a lot more successful

          • Jason Powers

            Id hope theyd set roles earlier but i see your point. 3rd pitch woes. We got a ton of project pitchers…

      • cubchymyst

        Grimm is already on the 40 man

  • nkniacc13

    on the cubs 25 man they only have Navarro and Gregg that are FA after the year right?

    • Jason Powers

      Cots contracts gives info. DeJesus has opt that could be bought out.

  • ssckelley

    DeJesus quick got a quick at bat in Arizona before heading to San Fransico.

    http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2013_07_20_cubrok_angrok_1&t=g_box&sid=milb

    • baldtaxguy

      Last Saturday game

      • ssckelley

        You ruined it!

        • Whiteflag

          It says 7/20 right on the link.

          • ssckelley

            Crap, well they did finish the game today.

  • Dustin S

    About 1-2 years too early to start analyzing the Garza trade.

    They knew they were getting a couple guys that were fixer-uppers. The key is whether the Cubs coaches are able to turn Olt and Grimm around. But that’s going to take a while to figure out.

  • Carl

    Alfonso just flied out with bases loaded and 2 outs. Darn–he usually is Mr. Clutch.

  • KidCubbie

    Miguel Alfredo Gonzales to sign with the Phillies.

    • Tobias

      I’ve been reading on Twitter 6/50+

    • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

      Well, with Halladay gone at end of season to FA, they could afford to step up.

      • caryatid62

        With the Cubs down to a $50 million payroll for next season, they could have afforded to step up, too. Unless they really thought Gonzalez wasn’t a starter, $9/year through the prime years is a deal, and will make this seem like a big miss.

        • Serious Cubs Fan

          I think the Cubs should really work on deal with Samardzija and front load the heck out of the deal. I’m not sure if you factoring in that were entirely taking on Soriano’s $18mil he’s due next season

          • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

            We are not taking on all of it. 5 mill is off the books, if Brett’s reports are right.

            So 14 mil to Soriano. Reduces forward payroll to about 50 million at Cots.
            https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ah4PW47PiAi-dEhlQ2VhNHpQQWhSVzh0dGlzUEtkQXc&output=html

            Cubs will have, if my math is close, 40 million available to keep payroll at 106 mil. (THAT includes reasonable arbitration increases – Samardzija being tops on that list.)

            We have holes at C, OF, SP, to fill.

            So, do we get 2-3 high ticket FAs? Or 4-5 mid-levels? Or save some, an apply in 2015?

            • http://Jplgxk AlwaysNextYear

              You wait til 2015 at least I hope they do. Could be some good talent in FA. Nothing to great this year. And no need to give Cano a huge contract.

              • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

                The names I see – and you have to consider: Ellsbury, Shoo, McCann, Halladay, Tim Hudson.

                2 are doing well – and will command FU money. The other two – injury reclamation projects – could do short term deals of 1/2/3 years.

                No way on Cano. He’ll want 8 years. Five or less – on ALL deals for players over 29.

                • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

                  Shoo is doing well too. Not so impressed though. Good OBP though.

                  • http://Jplgxk AlwaysNextYear

                    Out of that McCaan and Ellsbury are the only ones I would like to see but FO is content with Wellington I think but Ellsbury would be a good pickup without breaking the bank. Just look at some of the SP in 2015.

                    • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

                      2014 FA SP all pretty much suck. The name pitchers at least can bring in fans…in theory, no analysis to support how much they affect attendance.

                      Halladay is 37 in May. He might have 2-3 years left, if that shoulder cleanout worked. At least, he knows how to pitch. Prove it deal could work.

                      Ellsbury brings speed, decent CF defense, OBP, and some gap pop to the lineup. Shane Victorino got 3/39 at 32 years old. Ells – 5/70-75ish?

        • http://Jplgxk AlwaysNextYear

          Guy has not pitched a game in the majors or minors. Thanks FO for not signing him

          • Hawkeye

            Either had Yu Darvish, Ichiro, Puig, and I would gladly take any of them in a Cubs uniform. There’s going to come a point where this team has to step up and dole out some money, pretty soon this isn’t just rebuilding its runny a team cheap.

            • http://Jplgxk AlwaysNextYear

              Now show me the list of players who have tanked and I’m sure you could write a story.

              • http://Jplgxk AlwaysNextYear

                Puig has played just about half a season and so did Kosuke Fukudome. Just sayin

              • Hawkeye

                Yes and there’s many players who tanked who had played major or minor league baseball as well. You thanked the FO for not signing him because he hadn’t played in the majors or minors which is pretty narrow minded.

                • http://Jplgxk AlwaysNextYear

                  No I thanked them for not spending 48 million dollars to a player with no reputation who barley has pitched in 2 yrs. Darvish was well known for awhile and had all the tools in the world same with Ichiro.

                  • http://Jplgxk AlwaysNextYear

                    Sorry barely

                  • Hawkeye

                    I guess your far more confident that these prospects will turn out then I am. Some will. The problem I have is thus far we really haven’t signed anyone of particular note. Now maybe more of these prospects hit then I expect but I have seen no proof that we will pull the trigger and do what it takes to be a constant contender. Which includes spending money. Maybe we will but so far I haven’t seen that.

                • http://Jplgxk AlwaysNextYear

                  Also those in the minors do not get 48 million dollars in a contract.

                  • Hawkeye

                    OK, but if you don’t want guys like this and you don’t want guys like Cano. Who should the Cubs sign?

                    • Jimmy James

                      Hopefully Milton bradley

                    • http://Jplgxk AlwaysNextYear

                      Simple the supporting cast when all the talent starts coming up. Cubs already have some building blocks including Wellington,Rizzo,Castro,Samardzija/Wood/Jackson and some bullpen pieces. There’s Olt and Bryant at 3rd. So you now have one position open in the infield and if Nate and DeJesus stay put then we have a spot in the OF with maybe Lake taking that if he continues to play. So why sign Cano creating a logjam of prospects for one position. If Almora, Soler pan out with Bryant theirs your outfield in 2015 and beyond. Lots of ifs but there’s no reason to take a chance when your building this team the way they are when they start contending then that’s when you take the chances along with FA if and when some prospects fail and that’s a couple years away.

                    • Caryatid62

                      In other words, hope like crazy that these guys are superstars and don’t sign anyone until 2016. Can’t agree with that strategy.

                    • http://Jplgxk AlwaysNextYear

                      Well please tell me who you would have spent money on as a GM starting back to when the FO took over and who would you like to sign in 2014 and 2015 FA’s

                  • Serious Cubs Fan

                    I’d trade Russell if we had got the right deal. He’s essentially a LOOGY as much ppl hate to hear that. He’s a good one but ppl need to realize that relief pitcher can lose it at any moment. Look at K-rod. Sell high on Russell.

                    I do think Blake Parker is good piece for the future though.

                    • http://Jplgxk AlwaysNextYear

                      Parker is decent, Strop is pitching very good and some of the players we got this year on waivers/trades have a decent shot for being a quality bullpen arm.

          • caryatid62

            This was an opportunity to sign a young, potentially #3 starter to a $9 million per year deal through his prime years. Jackson, who looks more like a #3/#4, received $11 million/year.

            It’s certainly possible that he could be no good, but big market teams (especially ones with $50 million dollar payrolls) take $9 million/year risks.

            • Mush

              Some scouts weren’t convinced he was a starter. Maybe that’s why.

              • caryatid62

                If it’s a scouting decision, that’s one thing. But they better be damn sure that their scouts were convinced that he wasn’t a starter, or else this is a bad miss for a team desperate for young pitching.

                • http://Jplgxk AlwaysNextYear

                  No such thing as damn sure when it comes to somebody who has no professional experience. Lacking young pitching so lets throw 48 million at a kid. I wonder how many young pitchers in our farm it would take to get to 48 million.

        • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

          I agree on payroll – they have plenty of flexibility. We scouted him. maybe he did not wow for the price tag bantered.

          There are some MLB arms, some reclamation or injured FA projects, that might bridge until we get all those minor league project pitchers up to snuff.

          We might just feel we can get the same for cheaper, or less years, IDK.

  • http://bleachernation.com someday…2015?

    Not sure if this has been mentioned but Kris Bryant hit his first Cubs HR tonight.

    • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

      Hey Hey!

      • http://bleachernation.com someday…2015?

        Tweets from @BoiseHawksRadio

        @BoiseHawks 4, Spokane 1 (bottom 3) @KrisBryant_23 with a DEEP 3-R BOMB to CF for his first professional home run! We have it on video!

        @Graba15 @KrisBryant_23 We are trying to upload it to the @BoiseHawks website as soon as possible. Should be up by the end of the night.

  • Serious Cubs Fan

    I think Roy Halladay and Josh Johnson would be great 1yr prove it deals the Cubs could sign this offseason and pawn them off next trade deadline. High risk, High reward. Perfect for the Cubs this offseason. I’m sipping the kool-aid and think were going to be competing next season. It will be fun to see if Rizzo and Castro can take the next step and become big time stars but I think these 2 guys could be great buy lows. Crossing my fingers that Toronto doesn’t give Josh Johnson a qualifying offer, because then theres no way we sign him and give up a top draft pick

    • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

      I agree. Roy Halladay – even 75% of him – is probably as good as 100% of Action Jackson.

    • Scott

      Don’t you think those guys will get offers for more than one year?

      • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

        I’d go 2 years/ team option for 3:

        Halladay: 2/21 + 16 team opt for 14M; buyout of 2M.
        Hudson: 2/16 + vesting 200 IP in 2015 for 2016- This is all depending on if he’s throwing again by January 1st and workouts.
        Johnson: No idea. Young still.

        • Serious Cubs Fan

          I wouldn’t give Halladay or Johnson more then one yr deals, unless there was a team option tacked on. To big of a risk for injury with johnson and with Halladay, if he never regains at least a little of his old velocity then thats a terrible 2 yr deal.

          To high of a risk to give them more then a 1 yr deal, but we could pawn them off as rentals at the trade deadline if even one worked out. (Personally I think they’re both too big of a risk for Theo/Jed.) I’m willing to bet someone will take a risk with Johnson and give him a 2yr deal. If Johnson doesn’t find the right deal out there then he’ll probably take a high annual 1yr deal. He may accept the qualifying offer if Toronto offered one

          • Scott

            I think the risk is worth the reward to give Johnson, Holliday, or Hudson a two year deal, or one year plus team option. The main reason is because it is rewarding to have the top pitcher on the market at the trade dead line. The cubs could eat a big portion of the 2nd year and get a solid prospect package in reture.

            • Scott

              Especially if they come out and preform well up to the deadline.

              • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

                Which I stated before.

                2 year deal will NOT cripple this FO’s plans. They might go for Phil Hughes or just do some other scenario. I just think we took fliers on TJ guys, we should consider them if HEALTH is proved.

          • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

            Not really – of course, I want to see velocity – I would not entertain any deal without that being proven FIRST. Workouts – I am not going to do anything blind if I was GM.

            Halladay is throwing now off a mound – he might be back, or not, in September. He has incentive to prove health – or else, he’ll get a flier come spring.

            (And 2 years is not bad. Maddux got 10M for San Diego at plus 40 years old. Different pitcher, but same pitching abilities.)

            • Scott

              Of course any deal would be based on proven health.

              • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

                ^^^Exactly.

                • Serious Cubs Fan

                  Halladay is not the same pitcher. Halladay is no longer a cy young caliber pitcher, if we were to sign him on a 1yr deal, the most we could hope for is that he learns how to to pitch with out his 93-94mph fastball and learns to throw 89-90mph. I don’t think that velocity is coming back. His arm has taken a toll, too many +200inning seasons.

                  We would be signing him in hopes that he is solid pitcher, who can help a contending team in the playoffs. He’d flipped for hopefully a Maholm/Feldman type of return.

                  • Jason Powers

                    I know hes not the same. Geez. You just ignore pretty much everything i said. No problem. We disagree on semantics. Prove health. Workout for team like brian wilson just did. Evaluate. Deternine risks.
                    Sign if warranted to 2 year deal. If…not whatever. Sign scott feldman if you want.

  • Mush

    Can someone please tell Rizzo his hands are too low?

    • David

      I agree. I don’t particularly like swing – It seems like it should be more compact. Looks like he is standing straight when he makes contact.

  • Clark Addison

    Bryant hit his first pro home run tonight.

  • Rcleven
    • ssckelley

      Yeah it does, awesome!

    • cubchymyst

      nice HR happens at 1:00 mark

    • Bill

      Big deal. The guy is a platoon player, who can only hit lefties. :-)

    • gocatsgo2003

      The center fielder tracked it for a second and gave up after realizing how far gone it was. Me likey.

  • David

    I’d like to see what it’d take to sign Granderson from the Yanks. May be a good fill outfielder for a couple of years. Great guy/ teammate with a few good years left. Local guy, too. 2 year contract with option for 3???

    • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

      K’s too much; OBP is ok, not WOW. YES, he has power – New Yankee stadium was built again for lefties. He’s 33 – and his defense has been on the decline 2011 and 2012 was negative.

      The local boy thing: LaTroy Hawkins comes to mind about that. Samardzija worked out. So, I don’t go by that.

  • cubchymyst

    Is wgn (outside chicago) choppy for anyone else right now?

  • Serious Cubs Fan

    Speaking of WGN, does anyone think they will pony up the massive amount of $$$ need to retain Cubs TV rights?

    • Rcleven

      Better question will the Satellite sights pay to pick up WGN.
      Dispute with Direct TV last year says no.
      Can WGN ask more dollars from cable?

      • Serious Cubs Fan

        I’m sure how many ppl from outside Chicagoland tune into WGN channel news around the nation. I know ppl watch WGN for the Cubs games but does the casual viewer in say Portland tune in to watch WGN? I’m not sure. Its not like the old days when there were only 7 channels.

        WGN has served as great platform to make Cubs fan from all around the nation, but I don’t think WGN has the big time cash of say FOX or other major networks to give the Cubs a major TV deal

        • Serious Cubs Fan

          Who are the potential candidates to buy the Cubs TV rights? CSN? FOX? WGN? I don’t know who else. Maybe the Cubs form their own network so they don’t have to share as much TV revenue such as the YES network (yankees), Red Sox have their own network.

          I know the Dodgers have a partnership with Time Warner Cable to have “their own network.” I know the Dodgers TV rights deal is a little funky and they are circumventing the revenue sharing rules. MLB and them are still fighting that out.

          • Rcleven

            Fox has never stepped up big time in the Chicago market.
            Comcast is in partnership with NBC. Comcast seems the obvious player.
            CSN has gone the PPV route and failed. Don’t think they want to travel that road again.

            • Kevin

              Can the Cubs get out of the Comcast deal early?

    • H.A.
  • caryatid62

    Nope.

  • daveyrosello

    EJax, wow, I guess this is why they gave him that contract. Giants are pretty punchless, that’s true, but even so Jackson looks terrific.

  • Dustin S

    Awesome pitching my Jackson tonight. A 1-2-3 save by Gregg would be even better.

  • Cory

    I keep seeing this Halladay talk and prove it deals. All I have to say is this per Fan Graphs players over the age of 35 to have a shoulder injury resulting in a DL stint averaged only 59 innings over the rest of there careers. That’s not surgery that’s any injury! I love Doc as much as anyone but odds aren’t in his favor. Missing on Gonzalez is a little upsetting , but I want my team spending money on proven commodities. When the time is right I would rather flip prospects for pitching then piss away money on a guy that we have no idea what his workload has been like.

  • http://bleachernation.com someday…2015?

    Wow!! Hell of a play by Barney!

    • socalicubsfan

      Amazing!!!!

  • Adam

    Come on Pablo, you can do it!

    Please move the microphone before I rip my ears off

    • socalicubsfan

      Very enthusiastic kid! Somebody get that kid some garlic fries!

    • http://bleachernation.com someday…2015?

      Come on Pence! You can do it Pence! You can hit a homerun Pence!

  • socalicubsfan

    Pen or no pen?

    • http://bleachernation.com someday…2015?

      1 more for Jackson.

      • socalicubsfan

        I like the call (not the result), but will the pitchforks for Dale come out?

        • http://bleachernation.com someday…2015?

          I hope not. Jackson earned the oppurtunity to try to get himself out of that spot by pitching a gem up untill that point. He made a good pitch and Francoeur blooped a lucky base hit off his hands.

  • http://bleachernation.com someday…2015?

    Dumb luck for Francoeur.

    • socalicubsfan

      Did you see pitch location? Jammed the heck out of him. Lucky Frenchy!

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