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red-sox-logoRumors of a Jake Peavy trade escalated quickly on Twitter this hour, with both Ken Rosenthal and Buster Olney suggesting something is close between the Red Sox and White Sox, after Jon Heyman said serious talks were happening. Medical records are being reviewed, per Olney, and Red Sox shortstop Jose Iglesias was pulled under curious circumstances in the Red Sox game late tonight. Given the Red Sox’s left side infield depth, you could certainly see how Iglesias could be dealt.

It’s hard to project how a big deal like Peavy to the Red Sox can shift the landscape on other trades. No, there isn’t any obvious direct impact (the Red Sox aren’t really in on any Cubs targets, and the Cubs don’t really have a comparable piece to offer at this point). But, just by way of example, perhaps losing out of Peavy forces the Diamondbacks to move on to a backup plan – grabbing a bullpen arm like James Russell, again, for example (and making other moves).

Big moves tend to force big shifts. We’ll see.

UPDATE: David Schuster says it’s happening, with Peavy (and maybe others) going to Red Sox for Iglesias and others. The deal won’t be announced until tomorrow, according to Schuster.

UPDATE 2 (9:45pm CT): Jon Heyman also says it’s a done deal, though the players are unknown.

UPDATE 3 (9:47pm CT): Oh my. WEEI is reporting that this could be a three-way deal involving the Tigers. Jackie Bradley, Jr. is not in the deal, per WEEI. If the Tigers pick up another reliever in this deal, then they’re definitely out on Gregg or Russell, who they may have been still scouting this week (even after picking up Jose Veras). Could also be that the Tigers are looking to pick up an infielder as Jhonny Peralta suspension insurance.

UPDATE 4 (9:49pm CT): And Danny Knobler says it looks like Iglesias is actually going to the Tigers (which tells me they know Peralta is going to be suspended).

UPDATE 5 (9:51pm CT): A number of folks are speculating that Tigers outfield prospect Avisail Garcia could be going to the White Sox, which would be a very nice first piece in a Peavy return. Garcia was pulled earlier tonight in his game at AAA.

UPDATE 6 (9:58pm CT): I suppose the other possible implication here is that, if the Diamondbacks’ shopping of Ian Kennedy (see Cubs-related post here) was predicated on a desire to shed salary in advance of taking on Peavy’s contract, they now may stop shopping Kennedy.

UPDATE 7 (10:29pm CT): The White Sox are also getting three low-level prospects from the Red Sox, per Jon Heyman. The Red Sox are also reportedly getting reliever Brayan Villareal from the Tigers.

  • nick

    “We are going to build around Peavy”

    • CubsFaninMS

      ** “We are going to build around the Peavy trade”

  • http://www.bleachernation.com Luke

    Looks like this is going to be the most active Blogathon in a few years.

    I have to call that a good thing, even if I will be among the sleepers (not to rub it in…).

    • MichiganGoat

      Sleep is nice

  • Joey

    Means Buchholz was probably more hurt then the Sox were letting on. Return could be Jackie Bradley Jr, Jose Iglesis, and Ranaudo. That would be a haul for the WhiteSox

    • VegasGoat

      Wow that would an amazing return for the sox. That’s a ton

      • FFP

        It is.

  • VegasGoat

    Inglesias? As the center piece? I’d be a little disappointed if I were a white sox fan. Yet he is still a quality SS I guess so not bad. I just expected more for peavy

  • Joey

    Via Bradford, Sox Beat writer:
    According to multiple major league sources, the Red Sox are in advanced talks about a three-way deal with the White Sox and Tigers that would bring right-hander Jake Peavy to Boston. While the final shape of the deal is not yet clear, shortstop Jose Iglesias is involved in it. Outfielder Jackie Bradley Jr. is not.

  • MichiganGoat

    That really did escalate quickly… We’ve been spoiled or jaded by how quickly a trade can actually happen.

  • Joey

    Avisal Garcia (Tigers top prospect) was pulled from a AAA game earlier tonight as well. He could be in this 3-Team deal

    • MichiganGoat

      What three team deal are you speaking of?

      • Joey

        Tigers-RedSox-White Sox:

        Will shake out as:

        Red Sox get Jake Peavy
        White Sox get Avisal Garcia
        Tigers get Jose Iglesias

        Obviously more will be added but that looks to be the skeleton of the deal according to Rosenthal

        • MichiganGoat

          Well there goes any Barney to the Tigers discussions

          • YourResidentJag

            Barney could still have value with the Blue Jays depending on where they go this offseason.

  • Kramden

    Wait a second….

    Dempster & Peavy on the same team? In the same dugout? In the same clubhouse?

    Someone’s gonna get the Noble Peace Prize if this works out.

  • YourResidentJag

    WEEI is reporting that the Peavy trade is a three way with the Tigers.

  • North Side Irish

    Now going to be a three way deal with the Tigers…

  • YourResidentJag

    Avasail Garcia anyone?

  • ssckelley

    I was holding out hope the Cubs were in the mix for Garcia.

  • YourResidentJag

    Iglesias to Det..so that’s their biogenesis plan!

  • Joey

    Tigers are getting Jose Igleasis in the deal according to Danny Knobler. Insurance for the Peralta suspension

  • North Side Irish

    Iglesias to Detroit

  • VegasGoat

    If inglesias is going to the tigers the white sox must get a haul of prospects in this deal

  • Crockett

    Iglesias to Detroit. Garcia to CWS. Peavy to Boston.

    Seems like Boston would have to give up at least something else, right?

    • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

      At least a pitching prospect back to CWS.

  • YourResidentJag

    So, what do the Red Sox get….Smyly, Costellanos?

    • Crockett

      Uhh…Peavy?

      • YourResidentJag

        Yeah, I guess Detroit doesn’t give them anything else.

  • Brian Peters

    I’ll bet Peavy falls off the rest of the season. The AL East is a little more difficult than the Central. Oh, and I hope Demp and Peavy beat the snot out of each other. There, I’m done.

    • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

      Peavy’s velocity has been ticking down:[img]http://www.baseballheatmaps.com/graph/cache/iecca6c6qff0p0lqqumt3ifp33averagespeed.png[/img]

  • YourResidentJag

    Jeff Passan has tweeted that everyone except for A-Rod will accept 50+ game suspensions.

  • ssckelley

    Damn, Gregg is still a Cub.

    • Crockett

      Hahaha…I was just saying that out loud. “Why wasn’t he traded July 15th!”

  • http://bleachernation.com someday…2015?

    I’m really suprised the Tigers gave away Garcia to a division foe. I have a feeling Detroit is going to really regret this trade a few years down the road.

    • Crockett

      They have to be getting something else as well. A reliever?

      • http://bleachernation.com someday…2015?

        I’m just jealous they got Garcia. I really like his bat. Reminds me a lot of ARam.

        • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

          Not really, I think. His entire minor record: 43HR in 2100+ ABs. His best tool looks like a .280+ average. He might get more pop – as AAA shows – but he might not. He doesn’t like to walk at any level. Detroit made a calculated risk on it. Sox need more than this guy to be competitive, IMHO.

          • YourResidentJag

            Agreed, he’s a feast or famine top prospect.

            • ssckelley

              But Garcia is a prospect who keeps getting better as he is moving up through the system. He just turned 22 in June and maybe MLB ready next season.

              • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

                And that development could take 2 more seasons. Its a risk to take given Detroit’s position. And the White Sox will stockpile their toolsy OFers, and pray this guy get to 30HRs by 27 years old w/ 150Ks.

                • YourResidentJag

                  Yep, that last sentence.

      • http://Bleachernation Lou Brock

        They are getting salary relief , Reinsdorf will not pay a cent of Peaveys remaining contract.

        • YourResidentJag

          Dave Cameron still thinks there are lesser prospects coming the White Sox way from Boston.

        • VegasGoat

          Reinsdorf is a first class human being and a good owner but damn is the man cheap. He’ll dish out for the major league payroll when they are drawing fans but if their not he wants the books cleared.

          Even with the bulls he never wanted to pay Jordan or Scotty. He gave Jordan that $30mil a yr deal in his later yrs but he was extremely frugal when he was winning mvp’s as young player. Even now I’m not sure he’ll ever go deep into the luxury tax for the bulls.

          But I will say when it came to MLB employ pension decision to cut pensions he stuck up for the employees a fought for employee pensions. Hence he a first class human being. I was extremely impressed and proud that a Chicago owner would do that

    • http://www.survivingthalia.com Mike Taylor (no relation)

      +1

  • ssckelley

    Wow, Castro does not want to see Gregg traded.

    • college_of_coaches

      What happened?

    • deej34

      not watching the game. what happened?

      • BT

        soft liner, Castro dove when he really didn’t mean to, hit his glove, and popped out, 2 runs score.

        • BT

          really didn’t HAVE to.

          • deej34

            thanks for the info

      • ssckelley

        A soft liner went off his glove, would have been the 3rd out. Instead 2 score and the Cubs now behind.

        • Chris

          thanks.

  • VegasGoat

    I don’t blame Gregg for this blown save

    • ssckelley

      No, he should have been out of the inning before that happened. The ump would not pull the trigger on that breaking ball at the knees.

    • VegasGoat

      I hope what ever scouts are at this game realize this inning wasn’t completely his fault. That play that Castro missed I’ve seen high school player make routinely. Castro absolutely miss judged and overplayed the ball

    • William

      How is this on Castro? People love to criticize him at every turn. The only one to blame is Kevin Gregg.

      • BT

        Kevin Gregg struck out the previous batter, but the ump sucks, and Castro dropped the ball. How is Gregg to blame?

        • VegasGoat

          Agreed not all on Castro either. The umps strike zone was terrible as well

      • VegasGoat

        I’m not one of those ppl who like to critique him at every turn but he missed that play. Plain simple

      • ssckelley

        William, did you SEE the play?

      • mjhurdle

        agreed. anytime the closer puts himself in a position that requires players to make diving catches, not sure you can blame anyone but the pitcher.

        • Cubman23

          I agree with that overall premise, but Gregg looked good tonight. It was borderline that Castro even had to dive on that ball. The ump was pretty brutal too.

        • VegasGoat

          Not sure Castro need to dive. JJ and Len even mentioned that in the broadcast. He overplayed that ball by a lot. Of course takes some of the blame but there was a lot to go around in that inning and Castro isn’t exempt from that

        • mjhurdle

          it wasn’t a impossible play, and Castro should have caught it.
          But loading the bases in the 9th to me has less to do with Castro and more to do with Gregg.

          • Cubman23

            By that logic though you blame the pitcher when a run scores on a play the fielder should have made. That doesn’t really make sense.

            • Cubes

              it was a borderline should have been made play and if Gregg got 1 of the 3 baserunners onboard out it would have never come to that. Blame goes to the aging crappy worthless closer. case closed.

              • mudge

                Game is on the line, you catch the ball.

            • mjhurdle

              It makes sense.
              It may not be 100% fair, but if a pitcher puts himself in a jam and leaves himself and his team with 0 room for error, then he shoulders a good portion of the blame.
              For instance, if the pitcher gets 2 outs, then walks the bases loaded. Then on a 3-2 count, a strike gets called a ball and he walks in a run.
              To me that is more (not all, but mostly) on the pitcher. Bad things happen in baseball, and you shouldn’t put yourself into a situation where everything has to be perfect for you to succeed.
              and that ball to Castro was ruled a hit, so it isn’t just me that thinks that, while Castro should have caught the ball, it was an easy play. if he caught it, it would have been a really good play. It isn’t like Gregg got the batter to slow roll the ball and Castro booted it.

              • Cubman23

                Yeah, I think I misinterpreted it as you putting all the blame on Gregg. I agree that it’s a shared burden.

                Goddam it must be frustrating to play on this team if you’re a starting pitcher!

      • Kyle

        The fun thing about blame is that it can be shared.

  • Joey

    Gregg’s arm is gonna fall off before the deadline, 30 pitches and counting

  • Chris

    somebody please tell me about that single to Castro. No tv tonight,

  • Joey

    Brayan Villarreal is going to the Red Sox in the Peavy deal according to Nick Cafardo

  • Chad

    Also, Sveum does not make enough changes in late innings. No pinch runner for Navarro last inning and now no lefty ph for Barney. Make a move… It’s your job!

    • BT

      See, I knew we could blame it on Sveum! Do you know how often managers pinch run for their catcher, especially in a close game, leaving them with no backup in case of injury? It’s not never, but it’s pretty close.

      • mjhurdle

        stop ruining the “Blame Sveum” party with your logical reasoning!!!

  • greg

    Can’t anyone see that Castro is the worst shortstop in the league.I’m not talking about just tonight, day in and day out he makes the dumbest plays!!!

  • Chad

    I judge managers on how they do in one-run games. Sveum just kept trotting out Marmol all year when anyone would have been a better option… anyone.

    • Internet Random

      Thankfully for Sveum, the people who sign his paychecks judge him on how well he carries out his marching orders.

      • BT

        exactly. I saw him try to pinch hit for Barney today, but he looked up to the skybox, and Theo shook his head, so Dale just slumped back into his seat, looking dejected.

        • Internet Random

          It seems like you think you made a point.

          That’s funny.

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