dioner navarro cubsIt was referenced in the last Twitter dump, but chatter about productive Cubs back-up catcher Dioner Navarro is picking up.

A free agent after the year, and hitting .294/.370/.510 this season, Navarro has long been an expected trade piece. But it wasn’t until a knee issue put Yadier Molina on the DL today that chatter picked up considerably.

Multiple sources are reporting that the Cubs and Cardinals have discussed Navarro, and there is no reluctance to deal with a rival (why would there be? Navarro helps the Cardinals this year, which is of no consequence to Cubs; and the return to the Cubs isn’t going to be anything that the Cards kick themselves about for years).

Bruce Levine adds, though, that at least one other team is in on Navarro, and Phil Rogers suggests that it’s multiple teams.

Navarro is a nice piece for the stretch run, ably backing up and even filling in as a starter in case of injury. He switch hits, so he can also pinch hit (if the team can cover the whole “losing your other catcher” thing). He’s got sufficient value that he should net a notable return – as in, it’ll be worth discussing – but it won’t be huge.

UPDATE: Ken Rosenthal reports, from a source, that the Cubs and Cardinals are discussing a Navarro trade. That’s almost not an update, but it sounds a little more certain and serious.

UPDATE 2: I notice that the Cardinals got a 2014 competitive balance pick after the second round in the lottery this year … might that be an appropriate value for Navarro?

UPDATE 3: Ken Rosenthal says a deal now looks unlikely as the sides have had trouble agreeing on a price for Navarro.

UPDATE 4: Jon Heyman says it’s not happening, as Cardinals were unwilling to give up anything of value. If it was truly no value, there was no sense in moving him. Cardinals … may they miss or bow out of the playoffs for lack of having Navarro. Somehow. I will remember this.

  • Mike

    If Navarro gets traded, I hope the Cubs can pick him up again as a free agent this winter.

    • Noah

      Depends on how much he costs. The better numbers this year could earn him at least a split starting gig in 2014, and giving Castillo playing time has to be the continued priority.

  • jacob w

    “A deal sending navarro to the cardinals is posible but not close” per mlbtr wouldnt u think with an hour to go they should get close if Its gonna happen?

  • StillCubsFan

    If Navarro is traded, who’s be the Cubs’ backup catcher?

    • mak

      Hector Villanueva

    • Jp3

      Lake, 80 graded arm

    • Chris

      I know the org. from top to bottom and we just do not have catching–weakest cog in org.

      • Jp3

        Yeah I’m not sure anyone can be worse than Koyie Hill’s .207/.266/.290 slash line with 7 HRs in over 800 ABs. I’m sure we can find someone that will suffice.

      • hansman1982

        Whoa, so there is noone in the system that can squat behind home once ever 4-5 days?

        That’d make the minor league games interesting.

        • jh03

          Hey, maybe Darwin Barney could do it! His bat would be more acceptable coming from behind the plate! /s

          • On The Farm

            He is the emergency catcher

        • Jp3

          Yeah, we’re not trying to replace Molina behind home plate for us…. Too soon card fans?

    • rhino70

      Is Koyie Hill still available?


    • Jon

      Scott Servais

  • Justin Koehneke

    I think the best thing the cubs can do is package a couple players to get a better prospect in return/

    • Cyranojoe

      Cardinals don’t need anybody else, though.

      • Featherstone


  • tbone

    I hate to see them help the Cardinals even if it doesn’t hurt the Cubs this year, especially if the return isn’t very good. I HATE the Cardinals…. And I was kinda hoping we could extend Navarro.

    • ETS

      maybe navarro will intentionally tank the rest of the season if the cubs promise to sign him at the end of the year for what he reasonably could have expected had he finished the season not tanking.

      • tbone

        That would be tremendous. I am not entirely rational on this, but my hatred of the Cardinals runs almost as deep as my love for the Cubs. I know a lot of Cubs fans don’t totally get this but if they don’t I am guessing they don’t live downstate. If they did, they would get it…

  • http://www.survivingthalia.com Mike Taylor (no relation)

    J.C. Boscan in AAA gets put on the big league roster and gets a raise. Bats vs. LHP

  • Abe Froman

    How long does a trade take, calling it in to commish office, checking medicals, etc?

  • Awakeape

    I would help them for this year if it gives us a brighter future.

  • North Side Irish

    Nick Cafardo ‏@nickcafardo 43s
    Looks like Nate Schierholz staying put with Cubs

    Consider the source…

  • http://Thekarlinlawfirm.com Brad

    Not a fan of helping the division, especially if cubs will ostensibly be competing in near future. Only rental types would make me comfortable ie Navarro.

  • RoughRiider

    Don’t make a trade just for the sake of making a trade. If the Cubs can’t get a REAL prospect no point in it.

  • http://bleachernation.com someday…2015?

    If Navarro goes to the Cardinals I hope we get their competition balance pick.

    • http://bleachernation.com someday…2015?


  • X the Cubs Fan

    2Waytrades ‏@2waytrades 1m
    It is not for sure but some speculate that the #Pirates have made prospect Taillon available in a trade with the #Cubs for Samardjiza

    • Jp3

      We’ll see in about 40 minutes… I have a feeling this deadline is going to finish with a :::rim shot:::

    • CubsFaninMS

      Schiermardzija for Glasnow, Taillon, Polanco, and a lesser prospect. Very unlikely the Pirates would gut their farm that much.. but it would be a bold move for Pittsburgh and a win/win for both sides. Controllable players on both sides.

      • X the Cubs Fan

        That would be our Mark Texira trade.

      • http://www.survivingthalia.com Mike Taylor (no relation)

        I’d say this is the year they should go for it.

        • CubsFaninMS

          It would be a bold move and certainly without a loss for the Pirates. Here are the benefits from both sides.


          (1) The Pirates need a bold move after 30 years of losing and the frustrations from the last two seasons. Well.. here’s that bold move. Both players are obvious difference-makers.
          (2) Samardzija and Schierholtz both can be of benefit to them this year and next, making a pennant run likely in both years (outside the Cubs perceived window of contention). Combined with Marte, Alvarez, Cole, and McCutchen and they have a serious team.

          (1) The bust likelihood of all three of those prospects would be very low. For a Samardzija deal, it’s absolutely critical that you get one piece that translates well at the MLB level.
          (2) At least two of the three players will likely surface during OUR perceived window of contention.

          Win-win for both teams but, like I said, I would be in complete shock if such a deal took place.

  • North Side Irish

    Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 54s
    #cardinals won’t be getting dioner navarro. wouldnt give up anything of value. #cubs

    • mudge


    • Jp3

      Screw them. I’m sure whatever flunky has been they put back there now will be the WS MVP.

      • willis

        Dude, spot on. That is exactly how they roll.

        • Jp3

          What can you say, they make the Ryan Theriots look decent…

      • Ken

        Yeah, but those fans still have to live in the ugliest city in America.

    • Coop

      Very much hoping for a Cards collapse due to no catcher. That would be great.

  • Justin

    I am curious if the Cards weren’t willing to give up anything of value for Navarro. What were they to give up for him? A turd sandwich? Why even ask if they weren’t willing to give up anything? Weird..

    • Coop


      Mozeliak – “Um, will you please just give us Navarro? We will owe you a solid sometime down the road (*cough*never*cough*)…”

      Theo – *click*

      • Justin

        That’s funny Coop. It really does seem like something like that went down. Why inquire about a player if you’re not willing to give up anything?

  • Jon

    Cubs are closing in on Matt Lawton, per my sources.

    • willis

      That’s funny.

  • DReese

    THIS IS SO EXCITI… z…z…z…z

  • matt

    4 MINUTES!

  • ChicagoMike702

    Side note: How do the competitive balance picks make any sense? The Cards have won 11 WS titles, do they really need additional draft picks?

    • Kyle

      If the goal is to level the playing field, the fact that some teams are adept despite the uneven playing field is not relevant.

      • ChicagoMike702

        All those teams have been successful though, some more than others but still all have had amounts of success. Money doesn’t equate to winning in baseball, that’s been shown time and time again; the playing field is fine.

  • cubsin

    Cardinals could have had Cruz as back-up catcher behind Yadi and Dioner on the bench as a switch-hitting pinch-hitter for all of September. Their mistake.

  • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/653cc0c5f0eded621ab13b4f631de7da.png Cizzle

    No trade…good. F the Cardinals

  • Vulcan

    Well that’s it, folks.

  • cubfanincardinalland

    Screw the Deadbirds. Crash and burn in full mode for them. Waste of time for teams to try and deal with them, they think all their minor league players are Faberge eggs.
    Funniest thing I have seen in a while, some posters on the Cards talk site have been questioning whether Navarro has been hitting so well because he is taking steroids. Have they ever seen Dionner? He’s been taking growth hormones all right, tacos and burritos washed down with Coronas no doubt. Such a fun loving player like Navarro would be a shame on a tight assed team like Deadbirds.

  • Cory

    Why would the Yanks not be in on Navarro?

  • http://bleachernation.com ramy16

    Michael Barrett..lol..so he can punch AJ Pierznski in the face lol

  • http://bleachernation.com ramy16

    Actually I hope they resign Navarro

    • ssckelley

      I do to, he has been solid for the Cubs especially with the bat. We have not seen that kind of home runs per at bat since Hector Villanueva.