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wrigley field from right bleachersTravis Wood will try to clinch a second straight series against the Cardinals, which, neat.

Game Info

St. Louis Cardinals (69-52) at Chicago Cubs (53-68), 3:05 CT on FOX.

Game Thread and Series Preview

The Game Thread lives here. You should participate in the madness. And, of course, for those who aren’t into message board-style game threads, please feel free to use the comments on this post for your in-game commentary/outbursts.

The Series Preview for this series lives here.

Starting Pitchers

Joe Kelley (3-3, 3.14 ERA, 4.15 FIP)

versus

Travis Wood (7-9, 3.00 ERA, 3.69 FIP)

St. Louis Cardinals Lineup

1. Matt Carpenter, 2B

2. Carlos Beltran, RF

3. Matt Holliday, LF

4. Allen Craig, 1B

5. Yadier Molina, C

6. David Freese, 3B

7. Jon Jay, CF

8. Pete Kozma, SS

9. Joe Kelly, P

Chicago Cubs Lineup

1. David DeJesus, CF

2. Junior Lake, LF

3. Anthony Rizzo, 1B

4. Nate Schierholtz, RF

5. Welington Castillo, C

6. Donnie Murphy, 3B

7. Starlin Castro, SS

8. Darwin Barney, 2B

9. Travis Wood, P

  • EB

    If you guys don’t want to listen to these knuckleheads on FOX, you can listen to WGN Radio on MLB.TV; the delay is only about one second, maybe two at some point. (The feed moving through the interwebs takes up most of the delay).

  • willis

    7 pitch first for Wood. I like that.

    • jaslhill

      Uuuuh … *Spoiler Alert*. A little courtesy, please. Sheesh …

      • willis

        ?? This usually has live game comments in the thread. Kind of how things work.

        • jaslhill

          Yes, that was … nevermind.

  • KidCubbie

    MLB.TV sucks on the weekends.

  • willis

    Oh Rizzo…What has happened to you?

  • Eternal Pessimist

    Royal’s Tejada suspended 105 games…still no Cubs on the list. Whew!!!

    • Jason

      Adderal suspension. What is so odd that he did not get o.k. from medical legally as there are nearly 200 MLB guys on this drug legally. Adderal which many folks on here may use or family member use is a salt amphetamine. It is much abused but also very effective for select symptoms.

      • Mr. B. Patient

        He actually had the okay for the previous 5 years, and was denied an extension for this year. Someone had said that Adderal masks other PED use. Is this true?

  • Jason

    I was so wrong about Wood and the Sean Marshall deal. Wood is so athletic and with a decent team would have a great W-L record. I just thought our huge young lefty Marshall might pitch well until he was 39 or so.

  • willis

    Easiest run ever to predict. Cubs load bases and whiff their way out of it. Everyone on the planet knew the cardinals would score there.

  • Jason

    If-If Cubs all yr long could have produced in these situations and with the really good starting pitching–we could have been competitive. Dibble and Dale teach swing hard and lack of contact is so apparent with club.

  • Curt

    Omg can these fox announcers being any more cardinal homers its like thd cubs aren’t even here. They could pretend to be not biased .

  • Mr. B. Patient

    Did you guys see Castro hang his head after that strike out? Not good.

  • Curt

    damn Castro and everyone on cubs not paying attention just assuming the play is over

  • IndyCubsFan

    Castro needs to get his head out of his butt. Baez is gonna show him how to play!

    • willis

      Too late. I think the kid is so mind fucked this disaster is going to continue all year…well the rest of the year. It’s been a horrible year for him. Soon enough hell hear the footsteps.

    • caryatid62

      How about we pump the brakes a little on Baez. Getting overly excited about a young player is the kind of behavior that results in fans booing a guy the first time he slumps.

  • Jason

    Starlin is the one who may need approval for Adderal and I am professionally serious.

  • Mat B

    I have refrained from bashing Castro, but after that play, I say bench him, bench him, bench him!

  • IndyCubsFan

    @Mat B, ya got your wish! haha No more excuses. The guys’ been an all-star!

  • Mat B

    He can’t be pampered.

  • jon

    Castro is a piece of shit!

    • caryatid62

      Stay classy.

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    • Mr. B. Patient

      That’s unnecessary.

    • cubbiehawkeye

      Real cool guy

  • Mr. B. Patient

    If tomorrow was Sept 1st, I say hell with the 40 man roster problem, bring up Baez and let him finish the year.

  • rockin’ dawg

    Starlin Castro for David Price?

  • Mr. B. Patient

    Pulling him from the game was the right move. But we should all be pissed if Dale Sveum persecutes him the press.

    BTW, shouldn’t we want Theo to take Sveum out of the game for bunting with DeJesus with no outs?

  • willis

    Well, the good news is the cubs have a hell of a shortstop waiting in the wings, hell they have a great one and a good one (if you count Alcantara as that). I’ve been a huge Castro fan but he’s wearing quite thin. Not to mention this move by Sveum ain’t going to make things easier on him. I could see a decent conflict arising.

    Either way, kid needs to get his head out of his ass, and soon. I’m sick of his crap this year. What a disappointment.

  • jon

    It all started going down hill with this idiot when he got in trouble 2 off-season s ago. On and off the field he thinks he can do whatever he wants. I’m just done with him

  • Can’t think of a cool name

    I think Castro responsible for Molina’s homer also. I think he was responsible for the Cubs not scoring when they loaded the bases. I think he was also responsible for the failed bunt attempt with 2 on and no out.

    Bad play by Castro, yes. Bad year for Castro, yes. But I wish someone would send Svuem to the showers. I’ve got no problem with reprimanding the kid for a bad play but Svuem knows this is a national televised game and is further damaging a fragile psyche.

    One can argue that with a fragile psyche Castro should be traded. I’m okay with that argument. However until he is traded Svuem should be trying to get the best out of him to either try to get him back to his previous level or increase his trade value. Castro has done nothing but digress under him.

    My 2 cents.

    • jon

      Yeah, there is a difference between physical/errors and short comings and mental lapses and lack of effort. Not sure of the point in the first part of your post

      • Can’t think of a cool name

        My point is that the focus is on one play from Castro but there is a lot of bad baseball today by the Cubs.

  • willis

    Well, the commenters refusing to accept Castro’s regression the last two years are probably silent now.

    He just looks like a totally different player the last year and a half. I don’t know why…but he ain’t who we thought he was.

    • Can’t think of a cool name

      I point to over coaching. I think their is too much in his head. Just let him play naturally and if its not the Cubs way at least he increases his trade value.

      • Mr. B. Patient

        “The Cubs Way”

        The biggest bill of goods the FO has tried to sell us.

        OVERRATED.

        • AB

          Laziness and bad play are what they are.

          However, I thought the idea that there would actually be a physical “The Cubs Way” manual with all this BS written down was a joke aimed at pacifying the meatheads in the city; subtlely brilliant in a way.

      • willis

        I pretty much agree with that. This new regime has been good for most and is rebuilding this organization. But for Castro they have been the opposite.

  • rockin’ dawg

    I’ve always been a big fan of Castro as well. But showing up for Spring Training out-of-shape, troubles off the field, chronic ongoing mental errors, and most of all NOT hitting….have made me reconsider. I still think he has a bright future and I don’t think his trade value is all that depleted. If he can help get us a frontline SP, that’s the way to go. Baez is the future at SS.

  • Lou Brown

    The kid has talent. I hate to sell low on him, but he needs to get his on straight. He has lost all confidence. Might be time to get a shrink in there. Maybe he “pulled something” on that play, and put him on the 15 day DL for a breather, and some therapy sessions. He can pound some of the lower level pitchers on a rehab assignment, and get that confidence back.

    • Vulcan

      I like that idea. What do we really stand to lose (win?)?

  • pfk

    Just watching the game and once again Castro spaced out on a play. Sveum have him a good dressing down for not being alert. The problem is, Castro just isn’t very bright. A nice kid but has the IQ of dish rag. No way you can win a championship with a .240 hitter with a lousy glove and a worse brain.

    • Mr. B. Patient

      How do you know he’s not smart?

      His concentration is lacking, that is for sure, but to call him names or label him as dumb is classless.

  • Jason P

    I just got home, so I didn’t see the Castro play, What happened?

  • Jon

    “The Cubs Way” is far from a bill of goods. It’s being taught at all leves of the minors and you will see it come to fruition once turds like Castro are “flushed” out of the system

    • Mr. B. Patient

      Could you imagine how good Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, and Ted Williams if they had ‘The Cubs Way’ to teach them?

      They make it sound like selectively aggressive hitting is something they invented. Not so much, but someone with Theo’s ego sure will make it seem like it. If they teach it better than previous administrations, great, they’ll get credit for it, but they sure the hell aren’t doing anything special (other than marketing themselves).

      • jt

        Retired T. Williams would talk for hours in the RS locker room after ST practices. From what I understand no one would leave. Long and short, those lectures are the basis for what Theo is trying to bring to Cubbie hitting.
        Willie Mays used the basket catch because he believed he could get off a throw 0.3 seconds faster from the position of that catch. He figured in baserunners terms that would cut off 3 yards from the runners sprint.
        These guys were stars because they figured things out. So if The Cubs way is to pass along some of the genius developed in past generations then it has my support.

        • Mr. B. Patient

          Maybe they can communicate it better.
          Maybe they can teach it better.
          Maybe they can draft to it better.

          These would be good.

          But they are acting like they invented it.

          • Jason

            Mr. B. Sounds like you have been around the Cubs facilities like me for awhile. There has been a Cub way and scouts and video and veteran players communicating long before Boston hit town. There is a bullshit factor with this group that has suckered in the fairweather fans . This guy who did not even play little league ball will stand behind the cages with his arms folded like he was a player–but yes, I do want this group to be successful. I dislike losing at any level.

            • Mr. B. Patient

              Jason, one of my first memories of the Cubs was being thrilled that the Cubs had more managers than other teams (yes, the College of Coaches). I thought that would mean we’d win more than every other team. I mean, the theory was simple, keep rotating the same guys through out the organization so all the players would learn the same thing. Consistency through out! Yes!

              Sound familiar?

              (I had to wait 20 years before I saw the Cubs in a playoff game. Actuary charts don’t give me a chance if Theo is on a 20 year plan).

          • turn two

            The only way to implement something like this in an entire system is to eat, sleep and breathe it. So yes, they will talk about it all the time and they will make certain everyone knows it is a change taking place from our old methods. You can’t create transformative change in any other way. You can think its them being braggarts but they need to act this way to make the change real.

            • Mr. B. Patient

              Two different arguments. To actually stress fundamentals rather than just talking about it is an improvement (I’m talking organization-wide) from previous administrations. I don’t question that.

              What I do question is the narrative that they are the ones who invented baseball. I feel it. I just don’t see it. I’ll believe they are geniuses when we start making the playoffs. Regularly. Hey, these are the guys that currently have a team of AAA castoffs.

              • Jason

                The fundamentals by the seasoned veteran players has been terrible all season–baserunning, bunting, pitchers fielding bunts, catchers blocking pitches, guys getting picked off bases, decisions on sending guys to home–it has not just been Castro.

                • turn two

                  You guys don’t understand, its not going to change immediately at the major league level, you implement those changes at the minor league level and they change over time.

          • jt

            Red Auerbach drafted as to character before talent. The Celtics did things a certain way and he wanted players he could teach. Beyond that, I don’t believe there are many who can maintain focus day in and day out for a 162 game season. I think that ability to focus is another attribute that Auerbach looked for. I’d guess it is also a criteria for Theo.

  • The Magicman

    Baez with a 11 pitch at bat resulting in a walk

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