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nobody effs with dejesusIn a serious surprise, the Chicago Cubs have today traded outfielder David DeJesus to the Washington Nationals, against whom they begin a four-game series today.

Because of his reasonable contract, veteran presence, and adequate production in center field, DeJesus was expected not to clear waivers in August. If he was claimed on waivers, he could be traded, but only to the team that claimed him. At this point, it isn’t known whether DeJesus cleared waivers and was traded to the Nats, or was claimed by the Nats and subsequently traded.

Either way, it’s a surprise. Although Junior Lake’s emergence as a maybe-possible guy for 2014, DeJesus still offered the ability to play all over the outfield and offer quality at bats, particularly at the top of the lineup. The Cubs had control over him for 2014 on a $6.5 million option, which may have made him more attractive to the Nationals (though it makes for an expensive 4th outfielder).

Don’t let the PTBNL return get you down just yet. We’re approaching the end of the minor league season, and it could be that the Cubs are legitimately just choosing between a couple nice prospects. This way, the Cubs get a little more evaluation time.

Obviously we’ll have more on this as it comes out.

UPDATE: Carrie Muskat and Mark Gonzales both also report the trade. Brian Bogusevic will be activated from the disabled list, and will take DeJesus’s spot on the roster, per Gonzales. Given that the Cubs can also bring back Bogusevic on the cheap next year if they like him, it’s all the more understandable that they’d like to open up a spot for him for “try-out” purposes. Keep in mind, Ryan Sweeney will soon be back as well, and he’s another possible option for 2014.

UPDATE 2: The Cubs have confirmed. DeJesus for a PTBNL. Had this deal come at the Deadline, there would be no surprise at all, so I suppose – in terms of roster construction and long-term plan – there’s no surprise today, save for the fact that it was a waiver deal.

UPDATE 3: The money aspect of the deal breaks down thusly: the Cubs save about $1 million in salary this year, and then save the $1.5 million buyout on DeJesus’s 2014 option (the minimum to which they’d be obligated). While money hopefully wasn’t the motivator here, it obviously matters.

UPDATE 4: Speculating on the return, I’d think it would probably be in the range of what the Cubs got for Scott Hairston (also from the Nationals). That was pitching prospect Ivan Pineyro, who has thrown very well at High-A. He was a 20 to 30 organizational guy.

UPDATE 5: Although I’ll discuss this more later, Ken Rosenthal says DeJesus was claimed on waivers by the Nationals, which gave the Cubs the opportunity to be off the hook for the $2.5 million referenced above. If that was the approach all sides were taking, the return here might be pretty slim. In other words, had he cleared waivers, it would have been possible for the Cubs to chip in some salary to land a decent prospect (not every team views a $6.5 million 3rd/4th outfielder as a good investment). Since he did not, and the Cubs and Nats worked out a deal, I’m thinking the money was the biggest part of the deal from the Cubs’ perspective.

  • MichiganGoat

    I understand opening up a spot and I guess something is better than nothing but a PTNL is nothing to get excited by. Remember how we hoped we’d get a decent prospect for him? Oh well…good luck DeJesus, ill miss the Big Leboswki reference and picture.

    • hansman1982

      I think the proximity to the end of the MiLB seasons has A LOT to do with it.

  • Austin8466

    lol some of you guys are hilarious. Who honestly gives a sh*t if Dejesus was the difference between finishing with the 7th worst record, or the 3rd worst?

    He wasn’t part of the future in Chicago, and the PTBNL just might. The Nats gave us Pinyero for Hairston, so I can only imagine the prospect is better than that (which is pretty darn good).

    This is re-building a franchise and a roster. You’d think some of you haven’t been around the last 2.5 years….

    • hansman1982

      DeJesus had a real chance of being a contributor next year.

      I have a feeling we are going to go all out on trading for a big time OF.

      • Austin8466

        Or signing Ellsbury.

        • hansman1982

          or Choo or all three!

          • Austin8466

            Let’s just trade the farm for Giancarlo Stanton.

            I’m only partially joking…

      • MichiganGoat

        Yeah something else is in the works, should be an exciting Winter.

        • WGNstatic

          We will see how exciting the winter will be. I am actually of the mind that we will see a pretty quiet winter.

          The rotation is pretty full, so the only additions that would make sense are a true frontline kind of guy. The bullpen obviously needs help, but I can’t see this front office going after a big name closer at this point (nor do I think they should).

          The 2-9 positions are either filled or have a big time prospect not too far away that the front office may not want to block with a long term contract.

          C: Castillo
          1B: Rizzo
          2B: Barney, Watkins, Valbuena, plus SS overflow – Alcantara (’14-15), Baez (’14-15)
          3B: Olt (’14), Bryant (’14-15), Valbuena
          SS: Castro, Baez
          OF: Lake, Bogusevic, Sweeney (yikes), plus Soler(’14-15), Almora (’16), Sczcur (’14-15), and possibly infield spillover (Bryant, Baez?, etc.)

          Obviously, not every prospect will work out and some may very well be traded. But, there aren’t a lot of obvious openings for a long term commitment. I suppose an OF could make sense, but I am not sure.

          • Nate

            But some of those prospects would clearly go in a big trade so those spots would ‘open up’. Not sure what the thought is going to be but if you identify a guy you like that’s already producing in the bigs and have the prospect you’re willing to part with (and there’s a lot of depth so I figure there’s probably a couple). Then a trade could be coming. Or not

            • WGNstatic

              Absolutely, some of these guys will almost certainly be traded. That said, I am not sure that this offseason is the time to pull the trigger on any of them. I just don’t see this winter as the time to shift into buyer mode (in terms of giving up prospects).

      • ari gold

        Besides Stanton, what other OF’s could be available? I’m struggling to think of anybody else.

        • Patrick G

          CarGo

        • gocatsgo2003

          Honestly wouldn’t be that upset with a Corey Hart signing, either.

          • CubsFaninMS

            I’m not sure about him. He wears his sunglasses at night.

    • Kyle

      The fact that it’s been going on for 2.5 years is exactly why we should start caring about guys who can contribute next year.

      That said, DeJesus was probably extraneous at this point.

  • Werner

    I don’t remember if Hoyer or Theo was praising Dejesus right before the deadline. Yeah, I do not get this from our side or the Nats. Maybe this is just to make room for offseason trade/FA.

  • On The Farm

    I would think this means the FO feels pretty confident with Sweeney returning next season. Although I can’t decide if that is a good thing or not yet. I love Sweeney (Cedar Rapids ties), but the idea of him-Schierholtz-Lake across the OF doesn’t exactly light up the eyes.

  • Rich

    Can someone wake me up in 2016

  • Justin

    Bye Kim Dejesus.. Gone but never forgotten.

    • ND Cub

      ^This^

    • SenorCub

      That’s the DeJesus I will miss as well. Man did she look good in a Cubbie shirt! In all seriousness, he was batting .250 and not worth $6.5M next year at the same time, who will take his place. What happened to getting MLB ready players. At some point you may have too many Low A players that are years away from being MLB ready. Ugh….my patience is really being tried.

      • http://www.bleachernation.com Luke

        The Cubs are not hurting for outfielders in the upper minors who will be ready for a look in the majors next year.

        Lake, Vitters, Ha, Szczur, Watkins (he also plays center as well as 2B), and Bogusevic come to mind right away.

        • JB88

          I was hoping that Ha might be on the 40-man. Given his hitting at AAA this year, I’d be curious to see him get a cup of coffee in September.

          • cms0101

            Ha and Vitters are probably more likely to be in line for next year’s righthanded portion of the OF platoon. My prediction would be Lake plays most days with Sweeney and Schierholtz holding down the LH platoon spots. I don’t envision an Ellsbury signing like many do, but maybe they consider bringing in a more experienced bat. Bogusevic will probably be in the mix as well.

  • Cubbies4Life

    I am NOT happy. I can’t think of anything to say except WHAT THE F**K!!!!????

    • Vulcan

      I agree. Nobody f**ks with DeJesus.

  • Eric

    Lots of moves. Makes me wonder whats in store for next season.

  • North Side Irish

    Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 34s
    The #Nats likely have no intention on keeping DeJesus in 2014 since he has option for $6.5 million or $1.5 million buyout,

    • ssckelley

      If this is real then this deal makes no sense.

      • On The Farm

        I second that.

      • Cyranojoe

        Could actually be that he returns to the Cubs next year…?

      • BT

        Why? If this is real, then it shows that DeJesus wasn’t that valuable to begin with, so why is everyone crapping their pants that he is gone, and no longer available for a last place team?

        Assuming this is real, the Cubs got something for a guy that will be readily available to them again next year, if they really want to go that route again. So it makes sense for the Cubs.

        The Nats get a guy who can help them try to make the playoffs, which will cost them a couple of million dollars, and mid to low level prospect. It makes sense for them.

        In other words, if that is true, it probably makes a lot of sense.

        • Nate

          They’re 9.5 games out of the WC and 15.5 back in the division with 39 games to go. They aren’t making the playoffs. That’s why it makes no sense.

          • BT

            and it’s costing them 2.5 million and in all likelihood a middling prospect to find out if they can change that in a month and a half. I’m sure if the Cubs were in a similar situation you’d be screaming at them to give up, right?

    • JB88

      My guess is that Washington made the pick because they feared Atlanta picking up DeJesus off of waivers.

      • Eternal Pessimist

        …and they care why???

    • WGNstatic

      Nightengale is a moron then. The Nats are 9.5 out of the wild card, they are almost certainly toast for this year. I can’t see them giving up anything of value to get DeJesus for this year only, at $2.5M remaining including the buyout, that is pretty spendy for 40 games of DDJ.

  • Dave Bach

    This probably opens up the addition of Jacoby Ellsbury in the off-season !!!!

  • Jon

    This clears up a starting spot in LF for Giancarlo Stanton, so that’s the good news.

    • Vulcan

      Pass.

      • hansman1982

        Pass? Unless he costs 2 of our top 4 (and even then) why would you pass?

        • Vulcan

          That’s essentially why I would pass. I’ll take my chances with our top 4 prospects instead if cashing in all on one player.

        • JulioZuleta

          If it’s 2 of the top 4 (which I think it would be) plus some spare parts, I’d pass too. Stanton hasn’t stayed healthy even at a young age and this year, even when healthy, has like the 110th OPS or something insane like that.

      • Jon
        • gocatsgo2003

          “I haven’t shown up to play all season,” Stanton told MLB.com last week. “And that’s the most frustrating thing in the world. I’ve probably had two 15 at-bat stints where I’ve played OK, and that’s it. All season.”

          “Read it exactly how it is,” he said. “I haven’t shown up to play. Did I prepare less? No. Did I care less? No. It just hasn’t been there. As the person that I am and how prepared as I am, that’s unacceptable.”

          http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/sports/baseball/giancarlo-stantons-struggles-are-as-bad-as-marlins/nZRgP/

          • Cyranojoe

            Good for him. I like that attitude, honestly, and it makes me more interested in acquiring Stanton. Not that I think it’s possible without breaking the bank, but…

            • gocatsgo2003

              OK, now what would happen if that were posted but said “Castro” or “Rizzo” instead of “Stanton”? Would we still be excited about the player?

              • Patrick G

                I know all this Stanton is all fun and games, would Castro net Stanton? Both young very talented, obviously Stanton has more potential, but Castro is under control for a long time, something Mia would value and could open the gates for Baez. Again just speculating before people rip my head off

  • bleedcubbieblue21

    Kims gone??? Nobody is goin to the park now

  • jkppkj

    Baaah, I just got done typing my response in the forum about positives on the field this year and started off with how I always like how DDJ plays. Honestly, either he or Schierholtz had to go, with neither of them being able to hang in the lineup against lefites. Oh, how I hate waiting to find out who the PTBNL is.

  • Kevin F.

    “LAKE CF” Ugh. Or, work in progress, if glass half full.

  • On The Farm

    I am going to miss posts about DeJesus with that picture. Bummer

  • pfk

    He will be missed but it was inevitable. Good to see the commitment to rebuild with prospects continues unabated. Speaking if prospects…I’m surprised that we don’t hear anything from either the front office or the media about the alarming state of Rizzo’s hitting. He looks lost at the plate. MLB pitchers have the “book” on him and he hasn’t adjusted at all. At this point it’s getting to be more than just a slump. We’ve been counting heavily on him for the future.

  • North Side Irish

    Danny Ecker ‏@DannyEcker 3m
    RT @ckamka So with DeJesus going to Nationals, the current #Cubs player with the most career home runs is now Dioner Navarro with 51.

    Zoinks.

    • Cyranojoe

      I was horrified at first, then I realized that all of us who have been hoping to see the young’ns get their shot… well, this is all part of that.

      • marc

        seeing the young guys is great. more donnie murphy and darnell mcdonald is pretty bleh

        • Jon

          They are all out of “young guys” really. I heard the Cubs are signing Bernard Gilkey to replace DeJesus.

  • marc

    Are we up to 7 ptbnl now?

    • Cyranojoe

      LOL. There’s the 40-man, the 25-man, and the PTBNL-man roster.

    • Bwa

      Off the top of my head. 1 or 2 for garza, 1 for dejesus, 1 for lillabridge, 1 for that pitcher we sent to the giants. Which ones am I missing?

      • Josh

        1 from Colorado for Takahashi, 1 from Colorado for carpenter, 1 from Yankees for Gonzalez

        • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

          And one for Hairston (but the Cubs also owe one).

          • gocatsgo2003

            Holy moly. When do all these PTBNLs “come due?”

            • cms0101

              I believe most of them are going to be monetary, not players coming back, given the impact these guys have had on their respective teams. If I remember correctly, I know at least half of the PTBNLs had the cash stipulation attached. Since none of the names have really done anything, my guess would be a cash exchange. The Cubs never bothered to complete the deal with the Padres to get Hoyer and McLeod.

      • cms0101

        The other infielder sent to the Yankees before Lillabridge. Was there one going both directions in the Hairston deal too? The Japenese pitcher to the Rockies netted another one.

    • CubsFaninMS

      Can we officially call it a TTBNL? Team To Be Named Later.

  • Kyle

    I was just thinking the other day he was likely dealt in the offseason (after picking up his option). With Junior Lake’s emergence as a likely guy (he’s overrated by some, but his peripherals say he can be yet another “cheap, credible” type of guy), there’s no need for three lefty “decent if they are cheap” outfielders at the same time.

    Is this one of those “home league gets priority” waivers? Because he’d have only had to make it past seven teams to get to the Nats.

    • hansman1982

      Yes.

    • JulioZuleta

      I believe all waivers work like that, don’t they?

      • JayPaul

        First half of the year is based off reversed standings from previous season regardless of league. Cubs had #2 priority entire first half on waiver claims.

  • Chris

    Sweet!! We’re now all the closer to losing 95+ games this season!!!

  • North Side Irish

    David Kaplan ‏@thekapman 23s
    I spoke w/David DeJesus + he said that he was surprised to be traded. However, he would have interest in returning when his contract is up.

    Just like Dempster did!

    • ssckelley

      DeJesus maybe a little more sincere, he lives close by and his wife loves Chicago. I could see him return maybe as a 4th outfielder at a home town discount.

      • JB88

        Kim is from Wheaton and they currently have a very nice house there.

  • Joepoe321

    Wouldn’t mind jake johansen? Big righty and has put up solid numbers so far. Mlb.com has him at 20 for the nats.

  • ripiceman

    Folks need to calm down…

    DeJesus is a good clubhouse guy and a “good” player to have on this team but I’m fine with him being dealt. They saved $2.5M, give other young guys more of a look, and get a PTBNL. Theo/Jed got pretty good return on Hairston – i dont doubt they might be getting something nice back again.

    If the PTBNL is something significant, then this is a good deal. If not, this deal is purely a salary dump and maybe using some money to fund the IFA overspending tax.

    • Patrick G

      Ya I don’t see all the fuss. We weren’t winning this year and he wasn’t part of the rebuild process in the long term

  • Rich

    yea when do we get those 1 or 2 from Texas for Garza deal?

  • kluv

    Kim Dejesus was the hottest Cubs wife of all time. I’m pretty sad to see her go.

    • MichiganGoat

      I think that’s depending on Neil Ramirez’s injury. It’s him or two others.

  • Spencer

    You think David DeJesus is worth the same as Scott Hairston?

    • MichiganGoat

      That’s my only issue he should get more than Harriston.

      • cms0101

        But the “more” could be the money eaten by the Nats. The guy they got for Hairston has been pretty good in Daytona. I’d settle for something comparable. With young, hard throwing arms, you never know when a guy can figure something out. I’d love to see an updated tally of the PTBNLs that are out there from trades this season. I’ve lost track.

  • UCF

    Dejesus quickly became one of my favorite players in the league. He plays the game the right way….at least in my mind. I had hoped that we would keep him for next year. I wish him well in Washington.

  • ripiceman

    What is our PTBNL count up to now? Is it only 2? Rangers and Nats?

  • marc

    so lake leads off for the rest of the year? lake castro rizzo shierholtz castillo bogesevuic murphy barney? this is gonna be brutal till september

    • On The Farm

      I am not a Szczur proponent, but at this point I wouldn’t mind him called up to the big league club to be a lead off guy for my September game I bought tickets to. Oy

      • marc

        do september call ups have to be on the 40 man roster?

        • hansman1982

          Yes.

      • willis

        On the farm, I totally agree. He’s been good but not great. Saying that I’d much rather see him in the outfield every day from here on out vs. a hack like Bogusevic. We know what he is. We don’t know what Szczur is…may as well find out.

    • kluv

      Can’t Logan Watkins play the OF? Wouldn’t mind seeing him playing LF and see what he can do at the top of the lineup. He’s always been a guy who can take pitches and get on base. Not a fan of these Minor league veterans taking spots over guys that potentially can produce.

      • cms0101

        He can, but I’m guessing Watkins will go back to Iowa if Sweeney comes back before September. I don’t think they brought Watkins up to play, I think he was a body to cover for the injuries. Now that Murphy has played decent, Watkins will probably just sit on the bench.

        • Eternal Pessimist

          That says a lot (to me) about their belief, or lack thereof, that Watkins could be a legitimate big leaguer.

      • marc

        agreed. i dont really care to watch darnell mcdonald take at bats while the team is losing. any chance this opens up an audition for vitters?

        • kluv

          I believe Vitters is still hurt and on the 7 day DL in AAA. But it would’ve been a nice option for him to come up and play LF.

        • ssckelley

          Vitters is hurt again

  • Corey

    I wonder if he leads off for the Nats today.

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