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Zack Greinke and the Dodgers’ lineup did what they were supposed to do last night: beat down a team like the Cubs. That’s that.

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  • Jb1908

    Doesn’t Puig have to be the MVP? As soon as we walked on the field the Dodgers have been insane. Amazing player!

    • Cheese Chad

      Well Hanley Ramirez being healthy helps. He’s actually been better than Puig.

      • Bleed Cubbie Blue

        Completely agree, Hanley is the second best hitter in baseball again. Can you imagine if the marlins never traded him or Miggy…

        • Featherstone

          I think Trout, Davis, and possibly Goldschmidt would like to have a word with you.

    • JeffR

      Are you ESPN?

    • wilbur

      Puig is good but his effect on the team also has to do with motivating a bunch of older players on fat contracts to play like they aren’t just fading into the past. This seeing the future and it aint us effect can be very motivating, also know as scaring the beegeesus out of the players with one foot nearing the scrap heap. You can see a similar effect recently on the whitesox with garcia, the old timers picked up their games when the youngster showed up. This is also known as reverse mentoring where the older wiser players realize if they don’t pick up their game they will soon find their rockers out by the alley.

      • Feeney

        I agree. I believe Puig’s presence is what has helped motivate Hanley Ramirez to have a .363BABIP. I also believe Puig is the reason players like Zach Greinke got healthy and returned to the lineup. And he helped motivate players with one foot onthe scrap heap like Adrian freaking Gonzalez!! Somehow I bet Puig had something to do with the GM signing Ryu in the off season as well.

  • Cubbie in NC

    I am just glad that the Cubs did not get shut out by the Dodgers for the third straight time facing them, especially with Kershaw throwing tonight.

  • http://www.draftday.com udbrky

    The Dodgers ARE who we THOUGHT they were!

  • ssckelley

    Thinking out loud here but with as much ground as Castro covers and his ability to catch the ball does anybody think he has a future as a centerfielder?

    • gocatsgo2003

      Here we go…

    • JeffR

      The thing is, Castro isn’t necessarily fast. He has good range at SS because of reaction time and ability to accelerate (we’ll call it quickness). I would assume he’d have slightly below average speed for a center fielder.

      • ssckelley

        But have you noticed how deep he gets into the outfield going after fly balls? He sometimes screws up the outfielders because he is out there calling for the ball. I have visions of him being able to play a shallow centerfield.

        • JeffR

          Well I’m far from a scout, but I suppose if he could get a good jump on the ball he could probably be decent. I’m not sure if this has been talked about, but depending on how a lot of the prospects develop and whether Castro can return to his 2011 season, but perhaps he could turn into a good utility player. Probably doesn’t happen though for various reasons.

        • DarthHater

          Apart from fielding issues, If the guy’s bat is barely even justifying his playing time at ss, why move him to cf, where the bat is even more important?

      • CubFan Paul

        Almora is nowhere near fast..

        • On The Farm

          On the 8 scale, Almora is a 5 speed tool, just average. Like people have mentioned with Castro, he gets good jumps/reads on the balls off the bat and thats what makes him such a good CF. Although I will mention a particular time Almora was playing deeper in the outfield and he ran all the way toward shallow infield and made a catch and I was surprised he was able to come all the way from Deep CF to make the catch.

          • JeffR

            Question for Luke or someone with a lot of scouting knowledge. When scouts are grading speed, are they actually grading how fast a player is? Or the ability to steal bases?

            • Mr. B. Patient

              The speed ‘tool’ is simply a timed run. For baseball, it’s usually 60 yards. Sometimes scouts time home to first, and 1st to 3rd.

              The ‘skill’ of stealing bases, though speed is involved, is a totally different thing.

              Same for power. If a guy is considered a 70 power, it’s a measure of how far he hits a ball, not how many home runs he would hit. That distance is considered a ‘too’l. Translating power into home runs is a ‘skill’.

              • JeffR

                I read something recently that a high power grade is actually a measure of being able to consistently hit for power, which to me makes sense….450 foot home runs count the same as 375 foot home runs.

                • hansman1982

                  It depends. Some folks just use raw power and others include “barrel-ability” which would include how often the batter should be hitting home-runs.

                  • Mr. B. Patient

                    In ‘scout talk’, that is commonly referred to as usable power.

              • JeffR

                Perhaps the difference in speed tool and base stealing ability explain why you hear about how fast Szczcur is but it seems he gets caught stealing on 50% of his attempts.

        • JeffR

          I think almora has a slightly better 60 time. And it’s well noted that almora speed isn’t one of his strengths, but his instincts and read on the ball make him a potential GG caliber center fielder. I recall Luke saying that almora has decent speed, he just doesn’t have the ability to accelerate as well as others. Maybe you could say the opposite for Castro…he accelerates well just doesn’t have great top end speed. Which IMO is more useful in 90% of baseball situations.

    • Cedlandrum

      I have thought long and hard about this myself. He does get great breaks on balls, and his speed is way underestimated. I think if he didn’t fill out anymore he could be a very good outfielder, especially in center.

  • Stevie B

    Ok, that does it.

    It’s now time to start my research on the upcoming 2014 draft.

    It’s going to be a loooong winter.

  • cub2014

    Since we have nothing real to get excited about,
    here it goes. 2014 cubs lineup by June:
    CF Choo L
    SS Castro R
    1B Rizzo L
    LF Pence R
    RF Schierholz L
    3B Baez R
    2B Alcantera S
    C Castillo R

    Starters:
    Price L
    Samardizja R
    Jackson R
    Wood L
    Arrieta R

    possibly a contender with many iffs…

    • cub2014

      I don’t want to forget our 2014 bench:
      Lake,Valbuena,Navarro,Barney &
      Sweeney or Dejesus.
      Closers? Strop or Gregg? either one is
      way better than marmot last 2 years.

    • ssckelley

      A little to over optimistic with Alcantara at second, he might need a full season in AAA. But I am hoping to see a competition for the middle infield positions between Castro, Baez, Watkins, and Barney along with a competition for 3rd between Olt, Villanueva, and Valbuena.

      I still have a hard time believing they will go after another left handed bat in the outfield. I still say a right handed “value” guy like Hart or Morse.

      • Cedlandrum

        It’s not a little over optimistic, it is a dream. You are right Alcantara needs another season in the minors. I could see him called up in September or something, but Dale loves him some Barney for crying out loud so there is no reason to think anyone but Barney will start at Second next year unless the FO trades him.

        • cub2014

          I know Alcantera more than likely wont be ready
          byJune but maybe by August. He definitely is
          worn down right now. I think if he has a decent
          spring Olt will be at 3rd but Baez will be lirking.
          Villanueva might have to be traded (no place
          to put him to start 2014) Olt-Chicago Baez-Iowa
          Bryant-Tenn.
          Barney would be a very valuable utility infielder.

          • JeffR

            I would think between 3rd base, outfield and dh, Villanueva will have plenty of places to get in the lineup at AAA next year.

            • cub2014

              I forgot about DH. Can Watkins play SS?
              Iowa infield might be:Bour,Alcantera,Watkins
              Baez

              I could see Villanueva being part of a package
              for Price along with? Soler,Black,Dungston
              and maybe one of those higher level starters

              • Mr. B. Patient

                cub2014, any trade proposal for Price that doesn’t include Baez will be laughed at by Tampa Bay. they won’t take Soler’s contract either.

                • Blublud

                  They Rays know Baez is not getting traded. If the Cubs and Rays talk, they will probably start with Almora, Vogelbach, Alcantara and one of Pierce Johnson or C.J. Edwards. Soler is to expensive and Bryant is not eligible. The 3 above and one of the pitchers would be enough to start the talks and I would definitely be ok with dumping Almora while he is still overrated.

                  • C. Steadman

                    i think they might want another pitcher too (Blackburn or Underwood) and maybe Szczur for their future 4th OF (DDJ is a rental and Fuld…is just Fuld)

                • JeffR

                  Great point on Soler, not something I’d given any thought about. But his trade value is probably quite low to small market teams at the moment. When he is at higher levels and is more of a known quality his contract probably doesn’t affect his value as much (providing he is still considered a top 50 prospect).

              • C. Steadman

                i think watkins if in AAA will play OF to give alcantera 2B, Baez still at SS, and Villanueva at 3B(assuming theres no trades, Olt is in Chicago and Watkins is in Iowa)

                • On The Farm

                  I think there is a decent shot one of Olt of Vitters will break with the MLB club out of ST as a LFer.

                  • Danny Ballgame

                    Olt can actually play 3B. Vitters is an LF for sure

                    • On The Farm

                      True, I guess I just assumed the FO will be moving Baez to 3B to get him to the majors next year. I just hope one of Olt and Vitters can recover their ability to hit and stay healthy.

              • Blublud

                That package wouldn’t get it done, plus the Rays probably have no interest in a non MLB ready Soler for the price they would have to pay him.

              • On The Farm

                Yeah a AAA 3B prospect, an expensive Soler, a A ball CF, and a AA pitcher who projects as a future RP isn’t going to be near enough the caliber Tampa will want for a 29 Cy Young contender.

      • JeffR

        I’d like to see Alcantara spend the season at Iowa working to continue to cut down k’s and increase walks. He may never be a high average guy, but could be a high OBP with some good pop, especially for a 2nd baseman. If he comes up too soon he isn’t really much of an upgrade over Barney, and we won’t be in a position where 2-3 wins will make a great deal of difference.

        • cub2014

          Alcantera walk rate is good at 11%
          k rate isn’t bad at 22% but good pop
          and good speed (32sb). Right now
          would be a down grade defensively.
          So we will know quite a bit more about
          him by June of next year.

    • gocatsgo2003

      Yeah, no.

  • http://bleachernation.com ramy 16

    Go Bears!! Lol

  • RY

    Magic Number=31!

  • cub2014

    while we are at it look at
    vogelbach career numbers:
    k rate 15.5% walk rate 12.50%
    those are really good numbers.

    • JeffR

      Vogelbach’s approach is great and seems to be getting better. Seems to be a very coachable kid. The question for me other than his defense is will his bat speed be enough for him to have success in the upp levels and majors. Perhaps the cubs will sell high on him.

      • Blublud

        Vogs bat speed is fine. I actually don’t believe Vogs will be a huge HR guy in the majors. I think he has a chance to be a 40 HR guy, but with his approach, I doubt he ever does it. He’s a very good hitting and very selective. He tries to take what’s there instead of swinging for the fences. This will cost him HR but allow him to sustain his high OBP and walk rates.

        • On The Farm

          If it means he is getting on base for Rizzo to double him to 3B, I am all for it. Two in scoring position for the #6 hitter Soler.

        • JeffR

          I’m all for sacrificing a little power for OBP.

          • Blublud

            Oh. I definitely agree. I think Vogs has a great approach. I think a GM would love to have 13 guys with his approach.

  • Paul

    whatever you have to pay 4 a ballpark 1st one more year of the same 2015 win it all

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