Joe Girardi on His Impending Decision

joe girardi managerNew York Yankees manager Joe Girardi spoke publicly today about the decision he faces as the season ends, and so does his contract with the Yankees.

His comments, which you can read here at ESPN New York, are relatively noncommittal, as he notes he hasn’t made up his mind yet (perhaps because he hasn’t yet had the opportunity to speak to other teams/TV opportunities). That said, he emphasizes the importance of family in the decision – Girardi has three young-ish kids and a wife – and says his family loves their life in New York. He also down-played his connection to Chicago, having not lived there since 2006. With a 14-year-old, an 11-year-old, and a 7-year-old (and plenty of time to return to managing down the road), it’s not at all difficult to see Girardi taking a short hiatus or a low-stress, lower-commitment TV gig.

All in all, there’s not a ton to take away from his comments. Given that, for our purposes, the job that would possibly be on the other end is still occupied, I can understand why he wouldn’t say much either way.

Girardi is under contract until November, but that’s probably not a significant issue. While the Yankees could simply keep him on lockdown until November 1, regardless of whether he’s returning, they’d not be wise to do so, given that they’re going to want to get a running start on their own managerial search if he leaves. Indeed it would be in the Yankees’ best interests to either lock Girardi up immediately (but, if that was going to happen, why hasn’t it already? The Yankees keep saying publicly they want to re-sign him, and if Girardi wasn’t weighing his options, you’d think he would have re-upped already), or let him talk to other teams relatively quickly.

So, however this plays out, I’d think the Girardi aspect will be resolved before the end of October. And, of course, none of this will matter if Dale Sveum is retained tomorrow.

Brett Taylor is the editor and lead writer at Bleacher Nation, and can also be found as Bleacher Nation on Twitter and on Facebook.

106 responses to “Joe Girardi on His Impending Decision”

  1. Sean

    I feel bad for Sveum because he was handed a terrible lineup and team, but I’d like to see a change in the line up

    1. Jono

      I dont. There are only 32 people in the world who can call themselves a major league manager.

      1. Kyle

        Who are the extra two? :/

        1. Jono

          Jesus. He counts twice

          But yea, that’s the NFL with 32 teams.

        2. davidalanu

          You young kids are your fancy math.

          1. josh ruiter

            you old fellow and your fancy english:)

    2. Kurt

      I don’t feel bad for him because I’m NOT judging him on the lineup, the team, or the wins and losses.

      I’m judging him on his “in game decisions” and how HE handles the lineup, and he has been face-palmingingly frustrating in both categories for far too long.

      I fear that he will be back for 2014…and I find that sad.

    3. sean

      BS analysis

  2. J.F.Edwards

    I like Sveum. I like his approach. I like his even-keel attitude. I like his ability to deal with (say/not-say) what he needs to in regards to the media. I think he’s willing to look at a lot of ways to measure a player’s performance (or lack thereof) and I think if he tinkered with Castro/Rizzo et al this season, it was the perfect year to try some new stuff out. There were mixed results. But just because there’s a best way to take an AB doesn’t mean that player can take the approach and get their best out of that AB.

    Also, the Cubs were never in competition post-Spring Training. They never fielded a contending team, at any point, in the past two years.

    So, for all that. And for what I’ve seen. I still like Sveum.

    But Brett has said before, and I agree, that you get them when they’re available.

    So if you can give me Girardi and start front-loading the idea of a soon-to-be contender I think the team will not only make back $3 or 4 mil for a year of Girardi’s contract via FA discounts and butts-in-the-stands, but it will be a premptive on the strike on the the mantra the new Cubs need to take: No Such Thing As Next Year.

    1. Adventurecizin' Justin

      I pretty much concur…good stuff!

  3. Dean

    Sorry completely off subject, but Kim D. on AmazingRace tonight!

  4. dying cubs fan's last request

    I hate his management style and the way he throws his players under the bus.

  5. Die hard

    Doesn’t matter – next yr again about 100 losses cause nobody to replace Sorianos power and he accounted for 15 wins at least this yr

    1. MichiganGoat

      Sure 15 WAR sure… Do me a favor and look up his WAR, we’ll wait while you do the research.

      1. jay

        15 wins??? Put down the crack pipe. Soriano hasn’t been responsible for 15 wins since he’s been here. Best garbage time player ever, maybe. What he did for the Yanks this year was his absolute high water mark.

        1. Die hard

          When he left was leading in production and assists– who has replaced him?

          1. TOOT

            Rizzo? Even win a bad year.

          2. TOOT

            *with

    2. ClevelandCubsFan

      Please tell me you’re trolling….

      1. BT

        It’s a parody account.

        1. MichiganGoat

          That’s the great question about die hard

          1. Jason P

            The thing about trolls is over time it seems like they all either (A) get bored and move onto a new site or (B) step up their trolling to even higher levels (i.e. personal attacks, spamming with millions of posts/links, etc.). Die hard’s stayed persistent and for the most part consistent. Is it possible he actually believes all of the stuff he says?

            1. DarthHater

              Well, he’d have to be a moron to believe all that twaddle, so … hmmmm … Yes.

            2. Die hard

              I’ve been proven right more than wrong and so answer is yes– Darth and company live to shill but I tell it like it is eg Theo not right for this team ;should’ve been Sandberg ; Castro mishandled ; Shark overrated ; about 100 losses this year; to draft Bryant as need power etc.. You can look it up

              1. bbmoney

                no you haven’t and it’s not close.

                1. MichiganGoat

                  Let him believe his delusions he’s the Nostradamus of BN- make enough predictions and a few are bound to stick. Btw how’s Marmol doing as a starter? Has Castro been moved to CF?

                  1. DarthHater

                    “he’s the Nostradumass of BN”

                    FTFY

    3. Rmalm

      You guys need to stop freaking out each time someone mentions WAR. Hostile.

    4. Brains

      I guesstimate 88-92 losses next year, about the same the year after unless there’s some free agent signage. Cubs are officially the worst they’ve ever been in their history under Theo. Some plan.

      1. X The Cubs Fan

        88 loses wouldn’t be too bad, considering we’re a young team getting younger.

  6. Brian Peters

    Those dang kids’ll have too much influence, I’m telling ya. “But we don’t WANT to mooooovvvveeee…” TOO BAD, BRATS! I make the moolah, and I decide where we live!!

  7. desertrat

    I like what Joe Girardi did with the Marlins when he managed in Florida. As I recall, he was given a very young and inexperienced team and turned them into contenders, winning a Manager of the Year award in the process.

    1. MichiganGoat

      True but a couple of those players turned into MVP players and one of them might be the greatest hitter since Ted Williams.

      1. jay

        Who would THAT be?

        1. MichiganGoat

          Miggy

          1. Eternal Pessemist

            But, to his credit, he may have planted the approach in these young players that helped them become MVP players.

            It is impossible to say whether Giardi made those players better than they would have been with another manager (Sveum?) or if he just lucked into a situation with players who were going to fulfill their natural potential. And yes, I realize that many of those players continued to be high performers with Giardi gone, but you just can’t discount what a strong influence a manager/leader can be on your future.

  8. Voice of reason

    Girardi is going to stay with the yanks. He is not going to leave the biggest managerial job in baseball to come to a franchise that has been losing for 100 years.

    He is getting leverage by talking to the cubs and any other team. That’s business.

    The non news Bernstein text that was only a hottopic here said both girardi and the cubs were interested in talking. Really? Girardi is interesting in talkingmto any team and the cubs have to at least listen, too.

    If girardi was definitely interested in the cubs and the cubs in girardi then it would have been national news on ESPN and every other national outlet, it’s the freaking Yankees.

    1. Nick

      Easy killer, let’s watch it all play out

    2. DocPeterWimsey

      Do the Yankees want Girardi back badly? The Yanks have not exactly had the track record that they want while he has managed.

      Moreover, would Girardi really want to join the Cubs? He’s been managing a team where he’s always had a lineup full of guys who could bat 1-4 on most teams: his big decision is deciding who’s feelings to hurt by batting him 7th or 8th. And he’s had a few teams in which he’s had to decide: do I want good reliever A or good reliever B in this situation? Going from that to “which guy is going to make the batter’s agent smile more?” doesn’t sound fun. (And let’s not talk about the 9th: Girardi was on the cab home by then.)

      And for all the implications that Girardi would make “tough” decisions, remember how brave Girardi was about moving Jeter off of SS?

      At any rate, I do not see any reason to particularly covet Girardi for the Cubs. He certainly has not done anything to suggest that he would have made this year’s team a 90-loss team rather than a 96-loss team.

      1. Adventurecizin' Justin

        I don’t think anyone would have produced a much better record than Sveum. However, the question becomes: Is Dale “The Guy” beyond his contract? If he isn’t in Theo & Jed’s eyes & “The Guy” is available now, it might be time to strike. I like Dale, but the 2013 regessions of our young core does not help his case. Not blaming him…but it raises a flag for me as our crop if youngsters get closer to the bigs.

        1. Scotti

          For me it isn’t about wanting a better record in 2013 but, rather, the development of core players. Girardi has proven that he can create an atmosphere where young, talented players can thrive. Sveam did not.

          1. Eternal Pessemist

            It seems difficult to take the risk at continued developmental problems with the young core, even if Sveum is not definitely the problem. A change may be necessary because the potential risk/harm is just so great.

        2. Jason Powers

          Here’s the question, would anyone else want Dale Sveum as their field manager? If he gets fired, does he get interviews elsewhere immediately?

          1. CubsFaninMS

            This is all speculation, but my guess would be that he won’t find a managing position with another team, maybe as a hitting coach or base coach.

    3. bpaoni

      “If girardi was definitely interested in the cubs and the cubs in girardi then it would have been national news on ESPN and every other national outlet, it’s the freaking Yankees.”

      Yeah see that’d be tampering, which is a big no-no. Besides how many national guys KNEW Theo was coming to the Cubs more than a day in advance? None….

  9. cubmig

    I, for one, don’t believe Girardi will come to he Cubs…….unless he knows (not “feels”, or “thinks”) he can fix what ails this Cubs club AND he has the full, unwavering support of the front office to do the job he knows he has to do. There is no other way. Girardi would be undermining all he”s achieved as skipper of the Yankees, as well as compromise his reputation if he failed as the Cubs’ manager. The Cubs are a young team who have, and who continue to prove inconsistent. They have yet to show a resiliency to overcome shortcomings to win, and to win whatever the pressures. They have shown us they know how to let a game get away, or slip into demoralizing losing streaks. Now they would have to show the opposite. Girardi would step right in the middle of all the issues that have mitigated against not just being the kind of winner that gets them to the Big Show. It would fall on him to work that miracle. Against all that has been and is, “it” is a fuckin’ BIG job.

    Will Girardi gamble all for the chance to make history? That’s the question he faces.

  10. Oswego chris

    I had a player back in 2007 that was being scouted by every MLB team…I talked to the Marlins scout for probably an hour one day…he was dead right about a couple of things…said that the Marlins were thrilled to get Nolasco from Cubs…bulldog he called him, and said Rich Hill did not have what it took to make it…

    I asked him how Girardi got fired after being manager of the year, he said it was because he did not listen to management…did what wanted…

    I can only guess it had to do with using young pitchers or something like that…Yanks a good fit for him I think

    As far as Svuem, he just doesn’t strike me as a leader…not quite sure what it is…but I am fine keeping him or canning him….

    1. ClevelandCubsFan

      If I recall, The owner of the Marlins was in the stands yelling at the umps for “bad calls,” which really made a mockery of the team and players. Finally, Girardi had enough and chewed the boss out. Yeah, Wikipedia here it goes…

      [quote]But Girardi was nearly fired in early August when he got into an argument with Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria during a game. According to witnesses and video footage, the Marlins owner was heckling homeplate umpire Larry Vanover. When the umpire warned Girardi about the harassment, Girardi and his bench coach Gary Tuck then turned to Loria and told him to stop. Loria had to be talked out of firing Girardi immediately after the game.[/quote]

  11. ssckelley

    “he emphasizes the importance of family in the decision – Girardi has three young-ish kids and a wife – and says his family loves their life in New York.”

    In other words, if the Cubs want him then pony up the cash.

  12. cubmig

    ^ sentence correction:

    Girardi would step right in the middle of all the issues that have mitigated against not just being the kind of winner we’ve seen, but rather be the kind that gets the Cubs to the Big Show.

  13. Sparks

    I think Oswego Chris above made a key point: ” I asked him how Girardi got fired after being manager of the year, he said it was because he did not listen to management…did what wanted…”. I do not think the FO will be willing to let Girardi manage the way he wants. They have their own ideas, and they will expect their manager to do their way. Castro’s hitting this year is an example.

    1. ClevelandCubsFan

      As long as Tom Ricketts isn’t heckling the ump from behind home plate, I think Girardi will be fine.

      1. Scotti

        True and I would hope that Theo and his team value what Girardi brings to the table. The fit is dynamic. The needs of the Cubs and the skills, abilities and character of Girardi are almost an exact fit.

        1. Jason Powers

          Judging by the comments, he’s not offering really anything that says YET what Joe wants. Monday will tell us – if Theo’s self-imposed deadline for evaluation holds.

          To O. Chris’s comment, about doing what he wanted, he had Jeffrey Loria to work for. Joe took the position, and probably regretted it from then on.

          Doing what he wanted, entailed doing whatever Loria and Samson would not interfere with – which wasn’t much. This recent slam piece by Scott Miller, pretty much reflects the culture in So Flo – http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/scott-miller/23878728/at-seasons-end-marlins-jeffrey-loria-rears-his-ugly-head-again

          Tomorrow begins 2014!

          1. Scotti

            “Joe took the position, and probably regretted it from then on.”

            True, but he made the best of it. Girardi took the job before the selloff (they never bothered to tell him about the depths of the selloff in the interview process.. Given how low they went that should have been common courtesy, I’d think).

            1. Jason Powers

              I agree completely. I WANT Girardi…He turned some lemony top brass into player lemonade.

              Maybe a better question is, would anyone else hire Sveum, right away, to lead their team as their field manager? What team sees him as a better option than what they currently have? (And its not a complete knock on him; but who else is clamoring for Dale Sveum?)

              I think most people think a field manager’s power to create wins is static and comes from/through title and authority. It does not. It comes from creating an environment that wins, and a growing ability to craft his team, and the organization to fit ideas about that winning plan.

              It’s dynamic, and the consistency to put a team on the field that can win, based on talent, and the parts doing what they should, is at least worth the 2-3 wins at the margins, which is, well, often a playoff appearance for teams at 90 wins. Seem to remember the Red Sox letting go Grady Little to acquire Terry Francona’s services… (And the Cubs hired Little…2004-2005)

              And certainly, you don’t win without talented players.

              But what is Management but:
              1) People mgmt – how to create the right atmosphere
              2) Talent evaluation
              3) Perception mgmt through the Media
              4) The Philosophy of how to get things done
              5) Crisis – player conflicts, injuries to stars, rookies that have to perform
              6) Communication, communication, and more, communication of
              expectations. Sometimes, silence is golden. And knowing when and where to talk to a player is a skill too. And the media…seems we forget the buck stops usually with the field guys quite a bit.

              It’s not rocket science; and it’s not irrelevant.

              I suspect tomorrow tells us a lot.

          2. Scotti

            Nice link, BTW.

            Q: You say managers are first and foremost managers of men. Managing the game is only a secondary job function. Were you able to take this into account in your analysis? Is it possible to measure objectively the former skill?

            A: It’ll never be possible to perfectly analyze managing’s “softer skills side” (for lack of better way of putting it). A certain degree of uncertainty and inexactitude will forever remain…

      2. DocPeterWimsey

        Nobody would notice if Ricketts was berating an ump for a bad call: because even in a bad year, there would be hundreds of people around him doing the same thing.

    2. CubsFaninMS

      I see and respect your points here totally, but my hunch is that they would be willing to “let the reigns loose” with Girardi alot more than with Sveum. Think about it from a business standpoint. You have a newby who’s just been promoted, managing new tasks. You want input into the decision that person makes because he is inexperienced. With Girardi, you’ll pay but salary-wise but you’ll have someone who can make decisions moreso on their own. I believe Girardi and Epstein have (or may be having as we speak) a frank conversation about managing styles, situation, and whether they are a fit for each other. I would think there’s a high degree of confidence that both part are speaking frankly and will know quickly whether it’s a match.

  14. Frank

    Since nobody has or wants to say it, I will. “Wait till next year”

    1. TOOT

      Or the year after. Or the year after. Yikes. Come on man!

  15. macpete22

    Anyone who says managers don’t make a difference, answer this. Would the Indians have made the playoffs if Svuem was their manager?

    1. Headscratchin

      This is intended to be funny, so work with me here – I wish he were there so we knew!

    2. ClevelandCubsFan

      Well, since managers make 1-4 wins difference over average from most sources, can we assume Francona is 1 win better than Sveum. Probably? That would likely put them out of the WC. So yeah. But it’s not a meaningful point.

      1. TOOT

        Whoa! Where does this 1-4 game win difference come from? A good manager can make a HUGE difference. If that were not not the case, the good one’s would not be making millions. Could simply hire anybody to do the job.

        1. ClevelandCubsFan

          The science is new. Statisticians are really just getting to work on the data. It’s really rough. Here’s a good read:

          http://www.azsnakepit.com/2010/1/22/1201672/evaluating-baseball-managers-a

          1. Chase S.

            Read? What’s read?

        2. arta

          Toot, over the years most good managers have said u could give them credit for 2-3 wins a year max. Players win games. decisions help win/lose games.

          a good manager could save u 8-10 games by their decisions. Dale/Marmol would be an example. a good manager may not have continued to use Marmol in save situations.

          does that make sense? lol

          1. TOOT

            Nope. I believe a manager could change a team completely around. Of course he has to be good. And make no mistake, those GOOD managers are hard to find,(See previous post about TOP managers)

      2. BubblesHargrave

        Managers may not win very many for you, but they sure can lose quite a few. Case in point, almost every game Sveum put Marmol in to close the last two years. I’m still scratchin’ my head about that.

        1. ClevelandCubsFan

          I give Sveum the benefit of the doubt on Marmol if I assume, as a competitor, his plan was to win the World Series some way, somehow. However unlikely. In that case–if he was managing to win the WS, not trying to minimize losses–then with the roster he has constructed, he NEEDED Marmol to be a dominant closer again. The last two years were teams of a million ifs. Do you play to give yourself the best shot at a respectable record? Or do you play to win it all?

          I can’t say I know what was n Dale’s head, but if I was going for it all, that might be how I’d manage.

        2. Mike F

          Did Theo give him a better option to close? Did Theo trade Marmol out from under him? Has Theo had input into those decisions? Seems to me, many of you excuse the players, coaching and look for Dale to blame on everything. You also never give him credit for the advancement of players like Wood and Castillo. Case in point Junior Lake. When Lake came up and was on fire, it was despite Sveum. Suddenly he struggles and it is all on Dale. Unfortunately this is the pack mentality at its absolute worst. On Deck and looking to get swept out, Theo Epstein. Take note Theo. It is a hell of lot hotter and Chicago fans turn more quickly than you thought.

      3. hansman1982

        If they made the difference of more than 4 wins, they’d be making a helluva lot more than $5M a year.

        1. ClevelandCubsFan

          Yep.

        2. TOOT

          Please explain your reasoning on this point.

          1. hansman1982

            Baseball front offices are a helluva lot smarter than I am (even the dumb ones) and if they are still paying the managers peanuts, and there isn’t any conflicting information that is screaming otherwise, the managers are worth peanuts.

            1. TOOT

              O.K. i’m goona bite. How are managers being paid peanuts?

              1. Hansman1982

                Girardi is one of the highest paid at $5M. If he is worth more than 5 WAR (and the same with Francona, gardenhire, Scoscia, Maddon) why are they being paid the same as a good middle reliever?

                1. TOOT

                  Politics?

                2. Jason P

                  Agreed. 5 wins is a ton. Only 6 wins this year separated the best team in the NL (Atlanta) from the 5 seed (Cincy). If we were 3 wins better 60% of the way through the season (approximately) we would have been 51-52 with a run differential approaching +20-25, which would have probably meant no major sell-off.

                  Sveum didn’t make *that* big a difference.

                  1. Jason P

                    Okay, maybe not the run differential — it probably would have been closer to even. But same point.

                    1. Scotti

                      The MANAGING that a manager does isn’t likely to make a huge difference in W-L. What play do I put on here? What order do I bat the players in today? The LEADING a manager does–especially early on (his first Spring Training with a given team)–can have a drastic impact on W-L. That is especially true when a good leader is following a poor leader (or even just following a leader who has lost his team).

                      This is true in business, non-profit, the military, sports and, yes, even government. And that isn’t a knock on management. I don’t believe in leadership over management. It’s just that good leadership needs to come before good management for the effectiveness of management to be, well, effective.

                      For instance, you can manage your typing (become a very effective typist–words per minute, errors per thousand, etc.) but still crank out drivel if you don’t know how to actually WRITE. What’s the topic? Who’s the audience? It simply doesn’t matter if you are error free if you are headed in the wrong direction (the late Stephen Covey was all over this).

                      A good leader gets you on board with his/her plan. You trust them to direct you. You aren’t fighting their direction. You are all pulling in the same direction.

                      In baseball, a good leader comes in with an expectation to win. Girardi talked about winning the World Series in Spring Training with the Marlins (and throughout the year). They failed to reach that goal but that striving made them better than they ever would have been without it (collectively and individually).

                      THIS team might not be ready to spend now but its fanbase needs it to TRY to win now. The team on the field needs to be all in. The managers and coaches need to hold the team, and each other, accountable for its every effort. We haven’t seen that since before Sweet Lou went back on his prune juice.

                  2. TOOT

                    No Sveum did’t. That just lended to the argument that a good mamager would make a big difference.

                    1. Jason P

                      Not at all. It’s widely accepted that 10 additional runs is equal to 1 additional win, and multiple study’s have been done to prove that (if you don’t believe me, google how many runs are equal to a win in baseball and you’ll see a bunch of articles pop up). Plain and simple, there’s no manager in baseball that can create or destroy that many runs for their team. Even Quade wasn’t close to that bad.

        3. TOOT

          Please don’t tell me you hold Sveum up there with:
          1) Casey Stengel
          2) Sparky Anderson
          3) Joe Torre
          4) T0ny La Russa
          5) Bobby Cox
          6) Jim Leyland
          7) Billy Martin
          8) Tommy Lasorda

          1. hansman1982

            Thanks for letting me know I think that.

            1. TOOT

              Just trying to make a point brother. The 1-4 win difference as mentioned by others is bullshit when it comes to managers.

              1. Hansman1982

                You’re also comparing Sveum to guys who had 20+ years to perfect their crafts, many of whom also failed with a team early on.

                1. TOOT

                  Good point. However, I am of the group that says Sveum is a coach at best. No changing my mind. Good comments. We’ll talk.

                2. ClevelandCubsFan

                  The one definitive statistical correlation for managers as I’ve read is that they get better with experience.

              2. ClevelandCubsFan

                Can you demonstrate otherwise?

                We pay players based mainly on Added ability to win games. Same goes for managers.

                Considering each team only gets one and they are so rare the laws of economics say the managers will get paid way more than they do. So either they are not THAT valuable or the GMs are blind to their value.

                1. TOOT

                  Not being smart, but could you re-post that in the same form.

                2. TOOT

                  What’s your point, exactly?

                3. TOOT

                  Also, sports doesn’t follow the rules of economics. Yes?

    3. DocPeterWimsey

      Very possibly. They certainly would have been in the running until the end.

  16. Brian Peters

    Nope. Nyet. Non. Hell friggin’ nah.

  17. wilbur

    It’s a dance. The season is just ended. Now Girardi has made his statement to the press about his future plans. Family, yadda yadda. Chicago only mentioned peripherally, as you’d expect since girardi is still under contract. On Monday, the cubs will make their statement regarding coaches and Sveum, If they don’t part ways, then the next question to them will be are they going to extend him since it’s the final year of his deal. And if they aren’t going to extend him then why keep him for another year? Why not make the change now when their are some experienced managers available. Those questions will be coming and if not answered hover over the entire offseason and next season. It won’t really be a vote of confidence for Sveum just a holding pattern for the team.

    I think they will let him go and thank him for his efforts on some difficult circumstances etc. I don’t mind Sveum personally, and he may even be an ok manager, but I was never a fan of the hire. I think they wanted Maddox and the Maddoxes don’t have any warm feelings toward the cubs or chicago. Sveum was a second choice for the cubs and he was passed over by the Brewers after being their interim manager. HIring castoffs from the Brewers isn’t going to build much excitement, at least not for me. I’d just as soon say thanks Dale, hop on your harley and head up the highway to MKE. I’m sure he would have preferred the breweers job anyway.

    So back to the Dance. Once the cubs have said so long to Dale and company, then they can start contacting candidates for the job, or ask permission from teams to talk, if the manager is still under contract, like Girardi. This could take awhile or happen quickly depending on if the team with the contract wants to hold things up and maybe try and convince him to stay on. So no guarantees, and may take awhile to sort out. Probably the cubs will have to make the first move with Sveum, Then once there is an opening, then Girardi can make interested sounding noises, wifes family is from chicago, grandparents, etc and ask the yankees for permission to talk to the cubs before his deal is up in November. And the cubs can then ask the Yankees for permission to talk with Girardi. Then they can talk, once the yankees say ok, after no doubt, making a run or two at resigning him themselves first. This is the cubs, why would it be simple? .

    But I think it gets done, eventually.

  18. The Show

    Gardenhire anyone?

  19. Cheryl

    At this point does it really matter who we want? If Sveum stays – we shrug. If Girardi comes – a tad more interest. If the team loses 100 games next year it won’t matter who’s in charge.

  20. Nomar's Left Glove

    I think that there are a couple of interesting aspects to this that are not really getting discussed in any of the posts that I’ve read.
    First. Although everyone is talking up Girardi’s connection to the team and the city, nobody’s talking about the 800 lb elephant in the room. The reason why a person would leave a managerial job in New York is the same reason why someone might want to leave a GM gig in Boston. To win a World Series in either New York or Boston is great but it will be epic here. Whatever manager is at the helm at the time would be carbon frozen like Han Solo and sent to Cooperstown.
    Second. I think that a number of managers, including Girardi, would want to work with Theo and his brain trust. If you stop and think of the pipeline of premium young talent that is headed towards Chicago in the next 2 years (excluding next years #4 pick!) it’s easy to dream on the kind of team the the FO is putting behind any manager on the big league team.

  21. ab

    I am fine if Sveum continues on, no new thought here but you wonder what the record would be if they stuck with all the traded players.

    That said, what I thought was surprising was the lack of support coming from players other than Samardzija, and even that seemed tepid. I actually thought he’d have more back up from his players, unless maybe some of those comments just didn’t bubble up in this weekend’s coverage.

  22. Leroy K

    There is a funny line from “Rookie of the Year” The owner of the Cubs is talking to Henry’s mother and she says she is going down to sit in the lower seats and the owner says, NO, that’s not a good idea. Henry’s mom looks incredulously at him, and he responds by saying, “Me? The owner of the Chicago Cubs sitting with the fans? They’d kill me”

    So true…

  23. cub2014

    If the Cubs go get Girardi. I really think
    they will try hard to get a couple of quality
    big league hitters this year: Choo & Gonzalez.
    2014 1st half lineup: with balance
    1.Choo
    2.Castro(return back to normal)
    3.Gonzalez
    4.Castillo (getting ready to be a power guy)
    5.Rizzo
    6.Lake
    7.Watkins
    8.Olt
    2nd half 2014: still balanced
    1.Choo
    2.Castro
    3.Gonzalez
    4.Bryant or Baez
    5.Rizzo
    6.Baez or Bryant
    7.Alcantera
    8.Castillo
    I know I have been known to be a bit
    optomistic. Regardless of the 3 rookies
    success that would be a much better
    lineup then 2013. You are only adding
    26m in payroll to do it.

  24. cub2014

    oops! optimistic

  25. Jarrod C

    Girardi would be attracted by the Cubs for the same reason that Theo was… If you can win a title on the North Side, you will go down in history as the guy that ended the curse. If you don’t, big deal, you’re just like everyone else who’s ever tried. Oh, and the Cubs have some money to spend on a manager, too. That always helps.

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