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mike maddux cubsWhile everyone is focused on Joe Girardi, another prominent name is popping up in connection with the Chicago Cubs’ managerial search: Mike Maddux.

You may recall that the Rangers’ pitching coach was a candidate for the Cubs’ last opening, before pulling out of consideration at the last minute, citing family concerns. The Cubs opted for Dale Sveum, and Maddux returned to Texas. This time around, according to a reported from ESPN, Maddux is more willing to leave Texas to get a managerial gig.

Maddux, 52, has been a pitching coach since 2003, first with the Brewers and then the Rangers. Although he has no managerial experience, Theo Epstein’s enumerated criteria for the job didn’t explicitly require managerial experience. It is, however, something the Cubs say they’re looking for.

We’ll see if the Cubs wind up reaching out to Maddux, which they’ve not yet done, according to ESPN.

And, yes, I understand that you’re going to want to make some comment about Greg Maddux following his brother Mike to the Cubs in some capacity. Maybe he would. But keep in mind: Maddux first left the Cubs organization when Epstein and Co. took over. The dude potentially coming as the manager is the primary story here.

  • On The Farm

    This is probably the move that would satisfy me the most.

    • Patrick W.

      +1

    • Jay

      I suspect that his whole “need to stay near my family” blah blah was in part smokescreen because he knew what kind of misery whoever they hired two years ago was going to go thru. Now that we’re two years closer to actually being a real team, I’m not surprised he’s more interested now. I’d be glad to see him here. And his brother.

  • Die hard

    Well at least his brother bleeds Cubby blue- if this is as close as Theo will venture to former Cub there is nothing we can do but suck it up and wait for oppty to complain later

    • DarthHater

      Because the opportunity to complain is, of course, what’s really important here.

  • Griff

    Maddux is interesting but I think I’d rather have him as a pitching coach. Has there been anything said about possibly seeing if there is any chance we could get Maddon? I don’t know his contract staus or the rules of tampering. That’s what makes Dave Martinez interesting. You would think he’s been able to soak up some of what Maddon is preaching.

    • Jono

      Maddon is probably the most unlikely to leave his current position out of all the …30…. managers

    • ClevelandCubsFan

      No Maddon. No. He’s under contract as a manager. The Rays will never let him talk to another club about doing the same job somewhere else. People keep asking this. It’s not like leaving one corporate job for another. There’s generally good will about a guy having a shot at a promotion (like Maddux or Epstein before him) but lateral moves don’t happen.

  • Blackhawks1963

    Pitching coaches rarely are considered to manage. Fewer still make good managers. Bud Black is rare exception. I need to know a LOT more about Mike Maddux before I could opine.

    • Patrick W.

      John Farrell seems to be doing alright for himself so far.

      • Dudeski

        And Bud Black

        • MightyBear

          Larry Rothchild

          Bwahahahah!!! I couldn’t say that with a straight face.

  • TWC

    Lulz.

    This story line gets more ridiculous by the hour.

    Amazing.

    • Norm

      /agree

  • CubbieBubba

    I know the New York Post is ALWAYS a source of reliable information – however, they say the Yankees aren’t going to let Joe talk to other teams until Nov. 1st regardless.

    • Scotti

      That would likely screw them over for him ever managing with them again. Not too bright.

  • terencemann

    I don’t believe anything until there’s a contract offer but it would make sense that Maddux sees that he’s not going to manage in Texas anytime soon now that Wash is getting an extension (reportedly).

  • fromthemitten

    While his mustache is less formidable than Tidrow’s, he would make a good candidate even if he had a different last name.

  • CeeDeeVee

    This would be a dream:
    Maddux/ Girardi HC….Greg Maddux pitching coach….and for hitting coach….Mark Grace!!

    • CeeDeeVee

      HC? Oops lol. Manager**

      • NyN

        That never stopped Larussa from winning

    • jon

      Mark Grace..”too drinky”

      • CeeDeeVee

        Haha yea that came to my head but then I thought hmm maybe he can help Rizzo.

    • fatoldhippy

      Yes.. Mark Grace for hitting coach. Just what the Cubs need, a druken asshole to teach the young guys the finer points of DUI’s & how to accessorize orange jump suits.

  • Clark Addison

    Maddux was my choice when they ended up hiring Sveum. I’m guessing when Theo outlined his scorched earth plans, Mike bowed out realizing it would be career suicide. Now that there’s light at the end of the tunnel, and the Rangers are on a treadmill, I can see why he’d be interested in moving on.

    Girardi is still my first choice, but if he passes I’d be happy with Maddux. Especially if he brings along his little brother on a full time basis. Maybe semi retirement, golf, and a part time gig with the Rangers has gotten boring.

    • CubbieBubba

      plus Greg was recently the pitching coach for Team USA in the WBC – though that was more of a prestige/honorary position on that team and I never once saw him stroll out to the mound.

  • cubs4life

    cant say im any more sold on Girardi as i am in Maddux honestly. Yes Girardi now has experience but he also has experience on a 200+ million dollar ball club, which the cubs no longer are.. can he help develop these young guys on the team.

    • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

      No, the Cubs will be a $350 million ballclub by 2018. (Generated revenues at minimum by 2018. They did about $270 just last year. Forbes)

      Unless a Depression hits, U.S. defaults on their debt (self-inflicted and moronic), the Cubs, MLB, have more cash coming in…The media contracts, the renovation revenues, and even the attendance will grow back…

      • cubs4life

        i dont mean in revenue, i know the cubs are clearing that, i mean in wages on the field, i dont see the cubs going out and buying up all the free agents out there like the dodgers, which means we need to develop, but can Girardi, or Maddux do that…. I dont doubt they know the game, maddux being a pitcher and girardi a catcher, gives both of them a very in depth knowledge of situations, but it the development factor there.

        • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

          I knew what you meant. The Cubs will spend, but it aint dollars on 30 year olds, but dollars on 25 year olds that can matter most. Bring in a vet or two, when we are THERE to round out a playoff team.

          1) they will develop them (every player is a little different – some need constant instruction to form better habits; others tweaks to an aspect; still others playing time and reps with guidance on their brain, less on their physical mechanics . It is such an instinctual game, got no time to think in the moment, prepare and be aware of the situations)

          2) Make the trade that could do the trick
          3) Its a process-oriented (Kaizen) type of rebuild
          4) The goal is to buy wins, not players.

          I am being more patient with this MGMT team because they have a track record; did the same sort of things in Boston (renovation, International players, build the minors up) and can repeat in time.

      • cub2014

        default on our debt that notion is moronic!
        For every $1 our gov bring in we spend
        $1.46 our debt commitment is $0.07 (which
        is sad in itself) military is $0.29 (that needs
        to come down) and social security (which
        shouldn’t be in the budget) is $0.30 How
        we divide the other $0.34 (if we don’t raise
        the debt limit) will be the real argument.

        • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

          Really?

          I very aware of our debt situation. And how we never had the debt limit arguments until 2011. Before that, never an issue. Just handled, and moved on.

          No politics please. But here’s my 2 cents:

          It is moronic to default when you don’t have to – analogy: Like being aware your father has a terminal illness. He’s fine in the moment. Still able to get around and knows everything he has always known. But your action: well, dad doesn’t need to live in his home anymore, he’s gonna a die soon enough, time for a hospice – 1,3,5 years, you don’t know, but you are preparing for his death straight away. Tossing aside his present and rewarding moments to just go right to the inevitable: that we all die, but his death is assured by some disease you can’t see. (My mother: dementia and brain cancer, and I took care of her in her last months. So, expert. EXPERT.)

          Our debts are atrocious. And there solutions. The words are: SACRIFICE. COOPERATION. COLLABORATION. APOLITICAL. NON-DOGMATIC. LOGIC. TEAMWORK.

          We tend to fight over and over and over again the same issues. Can’t settle a thing. Fight, just to do it. Pick a party, or ideological bent, and plow over anyone cause we can – FREEDOM of idiocy.

          We do it on these message boards over the meaningless direction of the Cubs. Entertainment to amuse the masses, and keep them from tearing each other apart. Just like the Romans…

          So, we have some weighty issues that need addressing in a logical, and life-protecting manner. Does ANYONE think the current politicians have any interest in helping us? Are we also now so cynical to refuse to believe anyone can have the country’s best interests, first and foremost?

          The answer lies within us…But I doubt, many will ever broach this answer. Easier to blame and critique than it is to pick up a shovel, or change a bed sheet, or volunteer to do what one can for love alone.

          We need big answers and small ones alike. That’s my rant.

          • Pat

            1995 called and would like you to reassess your first paragraph

            • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

              Smartass.

              • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/653cc0c5f0eded621ab13b4f631de7da.png Cizzle

                You can’t hardly rant and not expect a critique of an obvious flaw. The thing to remember about debt is that when you issued the debt, you were given an asset. So what has the government done with the assets they received in exchange for the debt?
                Seeing how the poverty gap has been widening as the government’s debt has increased, it would seem that the federal government (you and I in reality) is taking on Trillions in liabilities and giving Trillions in assets to the rich. The debt should be more of our political discussions, after all, they’re borrowing in our name.

                • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

                  And we know it was hardly made the issue it is today.

                  And it focuses on the LEAST important detail to the OVERARCHING thesis. Leave it to message boarders to take a spirited response and miss the point entirely.

                  Here is something I wrote a couple years back – problems and solutions to the ills (a pamphlet). You may disagree, but at LEAST, I am thinking about it in more than 30 second, or 100 word summaries.

                  http://www.docstoc.com/docs/86867656/The-21st-Century-and-Common-Sense-A-Path-to-A-Second-Constitutional-Convention

                  See if you can read it all, before you make more comments. You just might get a surprise or two about where I actually stand….

  • aCubsFan

    Wittenmeyer just tweeted Maddux is not a candidate this time around.

  • Rmalm

    Can’t help but chuckle at the comments of “he was my choice” or “I prefer him over…” As if anyone here will have the slightest impact on who’s ultimately hired. Theo and co. will hopefully vett out the best possible candidate, and learn from where we went wrong with Sveum.

    • TWC

      ehmigerd! There are people on the internet expressing opinions!

  • Blackhawks1963

    The Maddux interest is untrue. Or so says Gordo who normally speaking is credible.

    • Internet Random

      How did he sound when he said that? Was he speaking normally or abnormally?

  • Die hard

    Ivan DeJesus may work?

  • Jono

    Sorry, but ill take the bait. If he can get his bro to be pitching coach, im all for it. But I got the impression that they’re looking for someone to develop their young hitters. I guess I can’t pinpoint where I got that from. Maybe that’s just my analysis (novice analysis)

  • http://epicfunhub.com Frank

    I wonder if Theo will even call Maddox given he turned him down once.

  • itzscott

    So what is this? Once you interview for manager with the Cubs you move up the ladder when the previous “winner” gets fired but remain a managerial candidate with the Cubs for life??

    Maddux, Alomar…. who else was out there that the Cubs interviewed last time around?

    This is getting to be like “Round Up The Usual Suspects”

    • frank

      Maybe we can get Kaiser Soze to be manager.

      • frank

        *Keyser*

  • Bill

    what about Pete Mckanin.I know it is not a big name but he is a pretty well respected baseball man.

    • frank

      Wasn’t he interviewed last time, too?

  • Required

    Sign all the players and managers!!!

  • Gabe Athouse

    Steve Stone?

    • Required

      At least Stoney would tell it like it is.

      • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/653cc0c5f0eded621ab13b4f631de7da.png Cizzle

        In a condescending know-it-all tone. Gee, he’d fit in here.

  • Ryan Tadych

    There is a part of me that says Girardi is going to turn down the offer because he wants to at least TALK to the Cubs, and obviously he is my number one choice.

    However, I think Maddux is my second choice. I would love to have him here, even as a pitching coach. While the Maddux brothers both being coaches is very slim, that would be pretty awesome and something I might consider over Girardi!

    Either way, I hope they make a decision that keeps the manager around for many years!

  • Darth Die hard

    Rooftops will agree to not sue Cubs over view if Cubs will agree to make Tom Tunney interim manager. :-P

    • Jon

      I’m sure Tom would bend over backwards to spend some time in the Cubs locker room

      • Eternal Pessimist

        …and he will be “UP YOUR ASS”. (in a squirrely voice).

  • Bill

    Yes

  • #1lahairfan

    I just don’t have enough of a handle on him to have a valid opinion on his potential hire.

  • Voice of Reason

    Tell mike maddux no thanks, take a hike, get bent….

  • Internet Random

    Two words, bitches: Mike Quade.

    • Darth Die hard

      [img]http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2856/10091165433_dd050343c3.jpg[/img]

  • Aaron

    Mike Maddux was reported as Theo Epstein’s top choice two years ago, but he turned down the job then to remain close to his two daughters who were in school in Texas at the time.

    Would love to have Maddux on the next coaching staff but not as team manager. Garardi is still my top choice and what I believe to be the best candidate for the job.

  • Die hard

    Smoke and Mirrors – we won’t know choice until we do… Until then more luck playing the lottery …. But as long as you ask my $2.00 is on someone on one of teams still playing

    • Jono

      Inflation is a real problem. It used to be “my two cents” not dollars. Fuck the fed

      • Jono

        On second reading, I initially read your comment wrong. Nevermind

        • DocPeterWimsey

          You also need an explanation for inflation in about 190+ other countries….

          • Jono

            Most central banks have been printing money since 2008

          • Jono

            The fed is printing $85 billion a month. Not much more explaining should be needed

      • Ron

        Ha, you had my attention!!

  • Jono

    Maybe girardi let the cubs know through back channels that he wanted Maddux as his pitching coach?

    Aaaaand “the cubs win the world series!!!”

    Give me asome break, its cubs daydreaming day…week…month…….century?

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