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david priceThe confluence of the playoffs, the impending hot stove season, the Cubs making their way into the national news (managerial search), and an ill-timed and laughably lame Twitter meltdown have David Price front in center on the rumor mill. And, when it comes to a possible David Price trade, the Cubs have never been too far behind in the mentions.

That’s not to say there isn’t any legitimacy to the latest rumor from Joel Sherman, who discusses the likelihood of a Price trade this offseason, and mentions the Cubs as a top potential suitor. That information came from anonymous baseball executives, with whom Sherman spoke about what could happen if Price were made available this offseason. The Rangers were the top team mentioned, for what it’s worth.

I would just preach caution before getting too invested in Price as a possibility. In April, Price seemed to make a fair bit more sense for the Cubs than he does today. For one thing, he still had another couple MPH on his fastball, and hadn’t missed a chunk in the middle of the year with an elbow issue. For another thing, we were projecting the Cubs to be a fair bit better in 2014 than they now project to be (obviously that’s subject to change), making a Price addition (two years away from free agency) more sensible. Finally, the Cubs’ prospect situation has changed – mostly for the better. But while a package involving, for example, Javier Baez may have made sense in April, it makes a lot less sense today. The Cubs love Albert Almora, Kris Bryant cannot be traded until next Summer, and Jorge Soler has a relatively pricey contract by Tampa Bay standards. Getting the right package together today just seems trickier.

Price is 28, and has two years of arbitration left. He’ll likely make something in the $13 to $14 million range next year, and then something in the $15 to $17 million range in 2014. Those are cost-savings over his market rate, to be sure, but not a steep discount. The arm issue makes you a little nervous, as does the drop in velocity. Price was plenty effective this year, though, and he’s not old. Tip-top arms are tough to find, and they’re worth paying for when you get a shot to lock one down before they’re 30.

For my part, I’d not like to see the Cubs go hard after Price unless (1) they plan to put together a solid team on paper going into 2014 (otherwise, you waste one of the two Price years you acquired); and (2) there is a very strong understanding that Price will sign an extension (preferably, a non-insane one). If the Cubs can’t lock up Jeff Samardzija two years before free agency and decide to shop him, why would they trade to get Price and put themselves in the same situation with him?

We’ll see if more significant rumors pop up after the season ends. You can expect that the Rays will put out feelers on Price, however. So it will be discussed.

  • Kyle

    I don’t mind us kicking the tires a bit, but at the end of the day:

    a) The Rays always ask for absurd deals in trade and almost always get it.
    b) Price is about to exit his prime
    c) Price has had elbow problems and a velocity drop
    d) We’d have to basically pay full price for him twice, once in prospects and once in an extension.

    • Chad

      Agree, prior to the season I was on board with the get Price deal and extend him, but the arm issues scare me along with the drop in velocity/dominance. I would not mind getting him, but not at what the Rays will likely ask, but how in the world will the Rangers give them what they want? They can’t have that much left unless they completely empty the system. Maybe Profar is included I guess.

      However, I’m still not sold on extending Samardzija. I think I would rather see him traded IF and only IF there is a top of the rotation prospect (Archie Bradley for example) as a return.

    • http://www.survivingthalia.com Mike Taylor (no relation)

      SP Pierce Johnson
      2B Arismendy Alcantara
      1B Dan Vogelbach
      CF Jae-Hoon Ha
      SP Duane Underwood

      They get none of The Big Four, and we don’t have to worry about putting Alcantara and Ha on the roster for Rule protection.

      • Kyle

        Not a chance I’d give that much for a pitcher whose arm could blow up on March 1.

        • hansman1982

          and not a chance the Rays take that when other teams are going to dangle a top prospect.

          • CC

            I agree with both of you…

            • cubmig

              Ditto. The Cubs seem to give up the Farm (Nolasco) and get stuck with the Shit-House. No Thanks. We have enough reclamation projects on board…… .

        • http://www.survivingthalia.com Mike Taylor (no relation)

          I figure we’ll get something in return along with Price. Maybe Jesse Hahn, a TJS rehab guy. Ha, ha.

        • BWA

          I’d do that deal in a heartbeat

    • http://obstructedview.net Myles

      I’d rather pay twice than never

    • Jay

      Totally agree. And I for one didn’t sit thru the last couple of years where our sole goal was piling up minor league talent just to give half of it away for this guy.

      • Chad

        I’m fine trading some the young talent because not all of them (by a long shot) will make it to the majors or be worth a crap even if they do. And even if they were all to make it there won’t be enough spots so if you have to trade them to get a CY young or an MVP caliber player you can should do it. Not saying the cubs should for Price because I don’t believe in his health and I doubt they would do the deal mentioned above.

    • Jason P

      I think your second point is debatable. Many pitcher’s are able to extend their prime at least into their early 30’s. The velocity drop is a concern, but his command has improved and he still throws 3 mph faster than league average. If we made a trade for Price, I’d be more concerned about the number of years he’d ask for on an extension. If we got him and signed him immediately, 6 years wouldn’t be outrageous (taking him through his age 34 season), but anything more and you’re asking for trouble.

      Perhaps a trade package of Castillo, Alcantara, Arrieta, Villanueva? That offer may very well get outbid, but if we stick at something like that I’d feel pretty good about our side of the deal.

      • Kyle

        It’s true that some pitchers have longer, later primes. But on average, they don’t, so there’d have to be some reason to think Price was different before we assumed otherwise.

        • Patrick W.

          It would be interesting to see if there was a correlation between drafted college pitchers and average age of prime.

  • Voice of Reason

    *IF* we were an ace starting pitcher away from winning it all then I would say go for it. That isn’t the case. For goodness sake he’s had elbow problems. Talk about a red flag!

    Trading three or four top prospects for a high priced starting pitcher who has had arm trouble is what the old Cub owners and management would have done. Let’s not be the old Cubs!

    Here’s hoping the Cubs take a pass!

  • jon

    Considering velo concerns and the fact he’s going to demand a huge extension, I’d offer Almora, Vogelbach and that’s it.

    If another team beats that deal, good for them.

  • macpete22

    If the Cubs can’t lock up Samardzija, I could possibly see them dealing him to Tampa in a deal for Price

    • Chris

      Why would Tampa deal Price for Samardzija ?

    • Patrick G

      that would make 0 sense because shark is in the same boat and will want more money than TB can afford.

      • Eternal Pessimist

        At least Tampa would get two cheaper years (Shark would get less for those two years), but we would need to throw in something extra, of course.

    • Chad

      That won’t help them. Shark is still going to be expensive for them and he has only 2 years left. They want low low cost and highly controllable assets.

    • CubChymyst

      It need to be a 3 team trade, Tampa likely won’t take Samardzija for the same reasons they are trading price.

    • http://www.survivingthalia.com Mike Taylor (no relation)

      We would deal Samardzija to another team, possibly for prospects we could use in the Price trade.

  • macpete22
    • CubChymyst

      Alomar Jr. is my favorite of the names listed so far.

    • cubmig

      Hinch & Accta. Both underwhelm me in the one department that will count in getting the Cubs to the post season. Wins.

      And yes….as Billy Beane is purported to have replied to Art Howe’s 2001& 2002 win seasons comment: “If you lose the last game of the season, nobody gives a shit.”

      But….I’d gamble on the 100+ win records……..

  • http://Bleachernation Lou Brock

    If Kershaw with the Dodgers is talking 10 years at $250 million at the age of 27 as a starting point, then you have to feel Price at 30 would be 6/7 years at about $150 to $175 million plus the high end prospects it would take to trade for him. No way Theo & company pursue that avenue of ” rebuilding”.
    I see them taking a high end college pitcher from the draft this year, Rodon or Beede, or Hoffman, or Nola would all fit nicely as a TOR starter to go along with Samardzija, Wood, Arrieta, and CJ Edwards. No need to strip away position prospects for a pitcher like Price who may have already seen his best years.
    Castro will be the trade bait used to fill any holes remaining on this team after the initial wave of big time prospects hit the majors.

    • Voice of Reason

      10 years for a starting pitcher?
      I would never go past five years for a starter and I wouldn’t care who it was.
      Five years at $25 million a year or $125 million dollars total is more than enough. He’ll be able to live pay check to pay check and get by!
      When do these salaries stop increasing? Why not just offer Kershaw part ownership of the team? lol

    • Brains

      We’re not going to get price because we’d lose a lot of prospects that we need. But even more centrally, the front office doesn’t plan to contend for at least 4 more years. We have _nothing_ to work with on the major league level. Nothing. This is a decade long project doomed to fail because you don’t spontaneously contend and they won’t install competitive pieces.

  • Jon

    Don’t get the allure with Many Acta

    • Cubbie Blues

      Because more is better.

      • jon

        Indians got exponentially better when Acta left.

        • Cubbie Blues

          But, they had only one Manny Acta not many of them.

        • hansman1982

          He is a two-time Manager of the Year.

          Indians also got a lot more talent this year.

          • jon

            Indians major acquisitions between were Bourn, Swisher and Kazmir, and Bourn did nothing.

            Young internal arms like Masterson, Jimenzez got much better AFTER he left(knock on player development) I know he says the right stuff on sabre metrics, but that doesn’t make him a rock star candidate.

          • jon

            Also, Acta has never won manager of the year, to my recollection.

            • hansman1982

              You’re right, finished 4th and 5th, misread his BR page.

  • Leo L

    I think the cubs have interest in that if the trade makes sense in that they don’t give up too much then they would have another commodity. He can be traded in season to a team that may be willing to give up a better prospect than the cubs gave away. I don’t think they are looking to win in 2014. But if they don’t feel like they are getting a bargain..then forget it. not gonna happen

  • Spoda17

    I’ll pass on Price. I am close to saying I’d deal Samardzija as well.

    • Jim

      I agree. If Samardzija is not willing to work out an extension this Winter, then I have no problem with them trading him. Add some more prospects to the nice haul we have now. If we aren’t too sure how good the 2014 team with be then I would rather try Rusin, Arieta, and others just to see where we are in Pitching and then maybe make a play for a pitcher next offseason if needed.

  • Jono

    Velocity concerns? Has he had control issues? I thought it was just a speed issue.

  • CubChymyst

    Not a fan of the Nerds comment in Price’s twitter rant.

  • Kevin F.

    Agree that Price is about to see his summit in a year. If the biggest piece (no pun intended) in a deal would be Vogelbach, I’d go for that. Any of their top 5 position players or pitchers, no thanks. The Cubs have stocked the TB system enough.

  • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

    If we are shopping in Tampa, pick up Ben Zobrist.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/z/zobribe01.shtml#trans
    2 years control; cost effective; switch hitting versatile guy. high OBP. Vet presence we no longer have much of and playoff experience, if those things at all matter.

    He’s an option the Cubs could do things with. And the asking Price would not be the same as David’s. (Maybe 3 prospects…not named Almora, Bryant, Baez, Edwards, Soler). Might even dump a Barney on them…since they are all about fielding metrics/and shifts. JMO.

    • Eternal Pessimist

      I don’t see how this helps us. 2014 is not looking as good as I thought it would (regression) and trading away our prospects for a 2 year control guy is a waste of our future talent.

      • Jono

        Be a little more optimistic…

  • jt

    what Kyle said
    makes sense to me

  • http://It'searly Mike F

    I would be against trading for Price, unless Castro were part of the deal. Basically Castro would help offset part of his salary. Trading Baez would be ignorant. Anything that included top 5 prospects would be insane. Even then, with all due respect Brett you are too kind with the money issue. Price is going to make 35-40 M in the next two years in arbitration. And to get another 5 years you are probably talking about 125M. Anyway you cut it, Price is going to exceed a long term 7 year 160 M deal. Kyle is right, you will pay twice. And bluntly it ignores the problem the Cubs have the next 2-3 years. They don’t have either a leadoff bat or real middle of the order bats. Expecting rookies to do that is insane. Boston had Damon, Ortiz and Manny. Theo needs to think long and hard about Jacoby E. iIf they are going to throw money around that is a place to start.

    • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

      It comes down to wow factor. Is the FO ready to WOW us?

      This hot stove best solve a bunch of problems – FA AND Trade(s).

    • JM

      Mostly agree, but Ellsbury doesn’t make too much sense to me. Gonna have to pay quite a bit, but won’t get the value from him. Good hitter, good contact, but unless the Cubs get something to go around him, he will just become the guy that gets left on base every third inning.

      • http://It'searly Mike F

        Ib this sense he does. First he can hit 1-3. Second, he is a patient OBP guy. Third he provides some speed. Finally he play CF until Almora is ready or if the ship Almora. He makes a lot of sense for this FO. And he will end up getting considerably less than Price and won’t require shipping out prospects.

  • Drew

    Let’s be real and go after Pettite, Clemens and Maddux. They can be Number 1 by committee and pitch every 15th day.

    They’re all available to sign as free agents.

  • sven-erik312

    Leave him alone, lets run with what we have. We have enough damaged arms to worry about.

  • Justin

    Screw Price. I would much rather have Alex Cobb than him, considering his contract situation. Plus, the Cubs need to avoid trading with the anyway. No way I give up top prospects and a $200 Mill extension to Price (which is what it would take).

    • Justin

      *trading with the Rays anyway

  • jon

    IN terms of trading with the Rays, we didn’t really get screwed on that. Out of Archer, Lee, Guyer, Chrinois..Archer and Lee were the only valuable pieces, and only Archer has proven to be a valuable piece at the MLB level.

    Meanwhile the Cubs got 2 1/2 years of solid performance from Garza, and got a legitimate top 100 prospect in CJ Edwards when we finally dumped him.

    I would not be “afraid” at all in dealing with the rays. I’d just make my firm offer and move on if they didn’t take it. Vogelbach makes too much sense in this deal. He’s blocked, can’t play any other position and the Rays have the DH.

    • cms0101

      Archer looks pretty good. Lee had a bad injury, otherwise he looked pretty good too. So I agree with you, that deal worked out in the end. Don’t forget the great Sam Fuld though… All of those guys were top 30 prospects in the system at that time period, but clearly the system was not as strong as it is now. I can’t imagine Chirinos, Guyer, or Fuld would have been in this top 30. And with so many SS prospects in the system right now, Lee would have been in the middle of the pack, at best. Too bad they didn’t send McNutt instead of Archer. Then this deal would have been even better.

      • Scotti

        A healthy Lee would be our 6th best prospect right now. The 2010 version of Brandon Guyer would have definitely been in our top 30. He got injured as well…

    • Justin

      I am not sure if you’re talking to me about trading with the Rays, but I don’t think the Garza trade with the Rays was bad for either team. It was solid. My point is there are way dumber GM’s in baseball that I would prefer the cubs deal with. Wil Myers think the Rays are pretty smart as well.

  • http://Cubs.com Ronnie

    Lets draft a David Price not trade our top prospects
    How do teams like Tampa StLouis Dodgers etc find great pitching
    We get the fourth pick next year do your work Jed

  • JoyceDaddy

    Please, not another prospect-laden Garza-ish trade again. I do not blame Hendry for moving on Garza when he did, but wouldn’t it be nice to see Chris Archer pitching for the Cubs right about now??? Let’s hang onto the prospects this time around and see what we have.

  • Bilbo161

    I agree with those who feel now is the wrong time to go after Price. He is losing velo and that is not a good sign along with elbow issues that send him to the DL. I’m thinking we let someone else gut their system and overpay. I’m hoping to see the cubs sign Tanaka, pick up a manager who can lead, and motivate, as well as teach, and continue to be willing to trade what they consider short term talent for longer term talent. They are doing it the right way so let’s stay the course.

  • Chef Brian

    That twitter rant was the definition of lame. Just what the Cub’s need, a conceited, whiny, man-child. If he can’t hold it together on a winning team, whats he going to do here. I wouldn’t trade for him.

  • Diamond Don

    Don’t want Price. but if we go after him offer Jeff Smaj. even up for Price.

  • Awakeape

    I would much rather take a chance on tanaka from Japan and trade for cargo.

  • Diamond Don

    I would love to get Cargo!!! I would give up Castro for him.

    • hutch

      for cargo we d have to trade castro and 2 of our top 10 prospects. Cargo is a top 10 everyday player. Castro alone might get cuydeher on his own

      • Rich H

        At his salary for the next 2 years Cargo is not going to cost any of the big 4. The more money a player costs the less impact hall you can expect.
        I would start Arieta, Lake and probably Vog’s. It might take a little more but not much.

  • Awakeape

    Great obp hits for power and average. He bats left handed as well.

    • Voice of Reason

      Totally pass on Carlos Gonzalez!! The dude can’t stay healthy for an entire season. He is owed over $63 million dollars over the next four years!!

      Stay away from Carlos Gonzalez! Sure he hits over 20 home runs, but he plays half his games in Colorado! If he was hitting over 35 home runs and could stay healthy, then yes, I would say trade for Carlos Gonzalez.

      I’m not taking on that big of a salary for a guy who has proven that he can’t stay healthy for 162 games.

      • jon

        Take a look at his home/away splits, Voice of UnReason.

        • Voice of Reason

          Take a look at the games he has missed over his career. He has NEVER played 162 games or close enough to it (most in a season was 145 games). The one element I like about his game is he brings speed to the table!

          But, I can’t overcome the injuries that plague him every year.

          For the amount of money he is owed, we can do better!

          • jon

            Ok, the injuries I guess you could say is valid, but will you admit to making shit up about him being a product of Coors Field?

            • Voice of Reason

              You GUESS the injuries are valid?

              You’re telling me that playing in Coors Field doesn’t lead to more home runs for a player, especially when they play half their games in Coors Field? If you say otherwise, you’re nuts!

              • jon

                No, statistics say he’s nearly as productive offensively outside of Coors field. But I know you and facts don’t jive.

        • jon

          Cargo has a career OPS .887, .920 as a Rockie, and in 300 PA his OPS in NL Central stadiums is 940.

          But far be it from the Voice of Unreason to just make shit up out of the blue before researching.

          • Voice of Reason

            What did I make up there, jonny boy?

            • jon

              ” but he plays half his games in Colorado”

              You are inferring he’s a product of Coors field,

          • jon

            And I’ll gladly take 120-130 games of Cargo over 162 games of bogusevic or whatever crap they throw out there.

            • Voice of Reason

              Well, I won’t.

              • On The Farm

                CarGo only played 110 games this year and still had a 4.9 WAR. I would take that over Bogusevic everyday (maybe bogie can fill in when CarGo can’t play).

                • jon

                  Cargo with Lake back filling in case of injury would actually be perfect.

          • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

            http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=gonzaca01&year=Career&t=b#hmvis::none

            Cargo: .992OPS at Coors
            .774 everywhere else

            Sample sizes in NL Central is pretty small. In 110 PA, in Great American and Wrigley he has raked…though.
            http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=gonzaca01&year=Career&t=b#site::4

            I’d pass because:
            1) Coors generated stats;
            2) High BABip – .329 away, .369 home
            3) He’s a pricey lot – that will not come cheap in any trade. Might as well look around for other opportunities.

            • Kyle

              I seem to recall similar concerns about Holliday.

              Good hitters tend to adjust when leaving Coors.

              • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

                So the injuries, and the growing salaries wouldn’t chase you off?

                • jon

                  His salary is fine given his production.

                  • Voice of Reason

                    No thanks on gonzalez.

                    Im not spending that kind of money on a guy who can’t stay healthy for a season.

                    Spin the numbers however you want. He plays half his games in a hitter friendly ballpark. Everyone else sees that and you should, too.

                    • Eric

                      Everyone else see that and you should, too? Well you’re completely wrong there.

                      CarGo would certainly be a risk and it would depend on who we would have to trade but as others have said I would certainly take that level of production for 120-130 games over some of the replacement level production we’ve been getting.

                      And while money is apparently tight right now $64 million dollars over 4 years seems downright reasonable for a large market franchise.

                    • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

                      Who are you gonna trade for him?

                      Crafty Colorado GM: CJ Edwards, Arismendy Alcantara, Jorge Soler is my open.

                      You play Cubs GM.

                    • MichiganGoat

                      I’ll offer the cleats if Tony Campana and a single Tidrow stashe hair- which is worth at least 10 WAR.

                    • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

                      Amusing.

                      Of course I’d take Cargo if money is irrelevant (to me, the fan, it is) and have faith I can replenish my prospects…good news there in 2014 draft.

                      Again, what do you think the GM of Colorado is gonna do? Let you dry f-him out of Cargo. He’ll want your best pitching prospect, a OF (though they seem to have a surplus there (Dickerson)) and a guy that can be a super utility.

                      Or 2 SP prospects, Hendricks and Edwards plus a Soler/Almora. And do the Cubs have a ton of pitching prospects? No.

                      Didn’t we just see Archer get some love in Tampa? http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/archech01.shtml

            • jt

              CarGo away game OPS 2010-2013 in form of 0.xxx
              775, 757, 707, 987
              as bad as he was in 2012 he was good in 2013 (actually better than at Coors in 2013)
              As Kyle stated, a good batter probably adjusts a bit when moving from Coors.
              I don’t believe an expectation of an OPS of 770-800 would be too much. Add the defense and the speed and he would make a better value at $65M than Choo at $100M.
              Yes, there would be a cost in terms of prospects. Hey, this is a good player.

              • Eric

                This is in response to Jason above – the site wouldn’t let me respond directly to his post.

                If the Colorado GM asks for Soler, Edwards and Alcantara you simply walk away. I wouldn’t trade any of the Big 4 for him, especially if you are taking on $64 million dollars. Personally I consider Alcantara expendable.

                Even with all of the young talent we have coming up we do need an established bat in the lineup and CarGo would provide that.

                • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

                  That’s fair. I would have expected as much.

                  I don’t dismiss Cargo as a player. He has done pretty well, aside from those injuries.

                  I think we all yearn to have players other teams’ fans covet. Since we aren’t putting much on the field but waiver wire OF guys, young and still developing, and mid-level players, we dream big.

                  We may not like FA. But that’s where you buy once, and hope to flip, if the need or desire arises.

                  • Eric

                    Agreed. And as much as we like to dream of the all homegrown lineup that’s just not going to happen. If we can get an All-Star caliber player without giving up the big 4 I think you have to at least consider it. I don’t know if CarGo is that player or if he is even available but I think that bat would like nice in our lineup.

                    Plus he is just turning 28 so we would be paying for his prime years. If he is available and Colorado asks for too much I trust our front office to make the right decision.

                    • cub2014

                      would you trade: arrieta schierholz
                      and vogelbach for CarGo because
                      that is the rumor.

                    • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

                      For a rumor, let me sign that deal.

                      Arrieta is the only piece that gives me pause. He’s has potential…but he also always has had that.

                    • DarthHater

                      “would you trade: arrieta schierholz
                      and vogelbach for CarGo ”

                      Heck, yeah, I’d make that trade in an instant.

                  • cub2014

                    if you trade for cargo and sign choo and
                    only give up arrieta and vogelbach I say
                    sign me up. for the next 4 years you have
                    your #1 and #3 hitters locked up and the
                    lineup around them suddenly looks very
                    good

                • cub2014

                  that would be a great trade for the cubs and a
                  good trade for the rockies (helton retired so
                  there would be a need for vogs who might have
                  big numbers in Denver) probably not gonna
                  happen though

                  • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

                    Colorado needs arms. Arrieta satisfies that.
                    Vogelbach can wait 2 years until Cuddyer declines.

                    Colorado does have prospect OF..a plenty. I was praying the summer they’d stay in it, and LA would cool off for them. Hoping our BP (Russell, Gregg, a body) would help and we could land Corey Dickerson, who is a good prospect hitter. (He’ll do things, I stake my internet reputation on it. HA!)
                    http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=dicker001mck

              • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

                Never said he wasn’t any good.

                I don’t think paying 100M for Choo makes sense either.
                Or 110M for Ellsbury; since the 75-80M barrier is officially departed with Hunter Pence’s 90M large extension.

                But Colorado’s GM is NOT gonna take a mediocre deal. He has fans to satisfy; and ownership will kill him too for not getting max value.

                So we, best find a vet or two to do 80-90% of what Choo or Ellsbury can be expect to do for 1/3-1/2 the cost.

                • jt

                  yeah, good players do not come cheap.
                  I’d be willing to pay more than you.
                  But Brett would be in search of posters if we all agreed all the time.
                  Long and short; it will be interesting to see how the FO plays their hand this winter.

                  • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

                    I expect A LOT from the FO.

                    Good convo.

  • hutch

    if they signed tanaka and traded for price they could be very good in 2015. Its conceivable that a deal could get done without giving up 1 of the big 4. A package based around vogie and alcantara would be a solid start. Both are somewhat close(within 2 years- 3 max) to making impact. and tampa could use high end offensive talent. They’ve always got pitching. With that staff and the position players coming in late 2014 cubs could be very good in 2015

  • FastBall

    I would love to have Price but the cost will be too high. That is unless Theo just completely hood winks TB which isn’t going to happen. I personally don’t want to dump several top notch prospefts at this time. We don’t which if any will amount to a hill of beans at the ML level. I would rather be stacked up at several positions than end up being thin in minors. Our organization isn’t known for it’s super star prospects making it at the ML level. I know it can be said those were all from a different era of management. I won’t buy into these prospects of ours until they are producing very well at the ML level. Until then they are prospects who can get hurt or hit an unforseeable ceiling. Shit happens for a reason and it always happens. Look at Olt as an example. People where all about him a year ago. Now he is hoping he has a future. So let’s not get ahead of reality too far. I think Theo goes out and signs 3 or 4 more pitchers of the Feldman variety this off season. But this season I think he needs to hang onto a few if they are pitching well in Chicago. I personally think Phil Hughes will come to the NL and kick ass. Much like Burkett did with the Pirates. Big difference between where they pitch and where the Cubs are playing (AL East). I think Theo trades Shark this off season to honest. He isn’t a top of the rotation pitcher IMO but while he is highly regarded we should get the most out of him we can. He is a half season starter just like he has demonstrated the past two years.

  • jt

    I still believe KC offers the best match for Cubs trades.

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