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As of last night, the New York Yankees hadn’t heard a decision from Joe Girardi on their offer to bring him back. Might they hear today?

  • According to a report from Gordon Wittenmyer, the answer may well be yes. A source tells Wittenmyer that the Cubs expect to learn today whether they’ll be able to talk to Girardi soon (suggesting that Girardi’s Yankees decision is forthcoming). As I discussed last night, if the Yankees decide to hold out permission to interview Girardi until after October 31 (when he becomes a free agent), the Cubs could be in something of a bind as other managerial openings are vetted and filled throughout October.
  • The New York Daily News finally breaks out the T word: tampering. “Given that Girardi is under contract, the Yankees could potentially file a tampering charge against the Cubs if they believe Chicago is trying to send messages to Girardi about their level of interest as he negotiates with the Bombers.”
  • First, a general response: Overt tampering really would be an uncool thing. When a team signs a guy to a contract of a certain length, a portion of what they’re paying for is the right to have an exclusive period of negotiations when that contract is ending. The Yankees paid for Girardi through October, and they have the right, then, to not have their employee’s plans/thoughts/desires polluted by another team. Sincerely, I get that.
  • Now a more specific response: Given how high profile all parties involved are, I expect that the Cubs have been exceedingly cautious in any indirect communications that have occurred. And even though Girardi is a Yankees employee right now, the fact is that his days there are limited, should he want to leave. If that’s the case, then all sides – including the Yankees – should want to know and act as soon as possible. In other words, this just doesn’t feel like a classic “tampering” situation.
  • Meanwhile, Jesse Rogers says the Cubs’ meeting with Manny Acta yesterday lasted 7 hours. That’s a hell of a first interview.
  • Patrick Mooney discusses, among other things, the Latin American angle to the managerial search, given the proliferation of top players in the Cubs’ system (and at the big league level) who come from Latin American countries.
  • Chris

    Brett,

    So what you’re suggesting is if the Cubs wait until Oct 31 to speak with Girardi, then we may loose out on the opportunity of hiring Manny Acta, AJ Hinch, or Rick Renteria???

    Oh, drat.

  • Tim

    Sounds to me that if girardi decides to stay with the yanks acta is the FO plan B. Being that they obviously put a great deal of time into him

    • Cyranojoe

      They did long interviews last time around. I don’t think it necessarily signals anything except that Acta is a very serious candidate. Could be as much a message to Girardi as to anyone.

  • On The Farm

    With the Iowa’s homecoming this past weekend, I think I missed a few things. Can anyone fill me in what became of the Mike Maddux speculating?

    • Chad

      I think my time might have been better spent on BN than sitting at Kinnick watching that one.

      • On The Farm

        Yeah, I ended up passing on tickets my friend was going to give me because I really didn’t want to sit in the rain. So I went from kicking myself for not getting the tickets, to relieved I just went to the bar to watch it. Unfortunately once the game ended happy hour was starting and I needed to drown my sorrows (especially with THEE Ohio State University and Northwestern coming up..)

        • LWeb23

          Yea it was rough sitting through that. That fourth quarter was like beating a dead horse with all the penalties and timeouts, it seemed like the game would never end. Unfortunately, I don’t know if the Hawks will win another game this year. Playing at Purdue seems like the only hope to me right now, with the slight possibility of stealing one in Lincoln…

          • Chad

            Purdue is flat out bad, so they’ll probably run 3 fake punts and an on-side kick for the win. I think Iowa could steal one from Michigan, but Iowa would have to play its best game and UM their worst (same with nebby, or close to it). I’d like to think they could get to 6 wins, but I don’t know.

            • Chase S.

              I’m still holding out hope that they’ll steal a game from Michigan and/or NW. And to your point about fake punts and onside kicks… Iowa has had 7 fake punt attempts against them since 2010, all of them successful. They’re also 50% on onside kicks. Yikes.

  • Chris

    Apparently Mike Maddux is more interested in the Cubs gig this time around, but the feeling isn’t as mutual as it once was.

    • On The Farm

      Thanks

  • Spriggs

    I get the feeling that the Yankees feel challenged by the Cubs interest in Girardi but also by Theo in particular. I don’t think they have this kind of hard core reaction to anyone but the Cubs (by hardcore, I mean the possibility they may even leave themselves open to problems by letting it go on until the end of the month)… Why have recent Cub things been so drawn out and ultimately disappointing or watered down? The sale to Ricketts, the Wrigley renovation, the Sanchez thing, the trade deadlines of the last 2 years, the new spring training facilities, etc…..

    • Blublud

      I think Cashman refuses to lose to Epstein. There is history there and I’m sure that is playing a part here.

  • Kramden

    The Latin America Angle?

    Maybe they can dig up Preston Gomez for an encore.

    Weekend At Preston’s …. Can’t be any worse than any of the other stiffs the Cubs have had as manager lately.

  • ETS

    “Patrick Mooney discusses, among other things, the Latin American angle to the managerial search, given the proliferation of top players in the Cubs’ system (and at the big league level) who come from Latin American countries.”
    Sounds like Ozzie Guillenis our best option (which is the sarcastic font ?)

  • SenorGato

    Just hire Girardi, sign Cano, sign Tanaka, and maybe trade for CarGo. Time to start making some money and winning games.

    • SenorGato

      Only a little tongue in cheek. I also like Ellsbury.

      • Jared

        You forgot about signing Jose Abreu as well.

      • Cyranojoe

        LOL. For a second I was going to accuse you of making that suggestion seriously, and therefore being Die hard.

  • Blackhawks1963

    It seems to be the case that TheoJed have identified and are interviewing 3 candidates while they presumably wait on Joe Girardi. Manny Acta, Rich Renteria and AJ Hinch. They are reported to have ruled out Sandy Alomar for consideration. And despite the rumors, there has been nothing to suggest that Mike Maddux is getting an interview. Or anybody else for that matter.

    As I’ve said before, I could care less if a manager “failed” in a previous stint. A lot of highly successful managers in this game struggled mightily in the beginning. Hence why if TheoJed decide Acta or Hinch is the right choice, then I’m perfectly fine and supportive of the decision.

    • SenorGato

      Both Acta and Hinch seem fine, but it sure would be nice to land the best available for once.

    • WGNstatic

      I agree, previous failures in a managerial role are by no means a deal breaker.

      That said, does anyone recall the press surrounding either Acta or Hinch when they were fired? Acta immediately caught on in Cleveland after his DC ouster, which says something, and Hinch was part of a broader house cleaning in AZ. Still, I really don’t recall what the vibe was when either lost his job(s).

  • Jon

    I really don’t think tampering is all that terrible. It happens all the time, in every sport. And everyone does it at one point.

  • Kyle

    Whether or not Girardi wants to leave would be influenced by those back-channels the Cubs are using.

    It’s absolutely tampering, and it’s absolutely circumventing the rule. But that’s modern sports.

    • DarthHater

      Theo to media: “I’m shocked at any suggestion of tampering. We understand and respect the rules and have every intention of waiting until Girardi is no longer under contract before we offer him 5 years/$30 million.” :-P

    • Kevin

      Are the Yankees ganna run to mama everytime they don’t get the unfair advantage they have grown accustomed to? .

    • ssckelley

      I imagine the penalties must be really stiff to tamper with a manager who is 3 weeks from not being under contract during the teams off season.

  • Jon

    I’m pretty sure the Yankees did plenty of tampering during their hayday of free agent spending this past decade.

    “pssst, agent..pssst…don’t sign that extension, we got 180 million guaranteed for you this offseason”

    Turnabouts fair play…

  • When the Music’s Over

    Each day nothing happens with Girardi, the story about his “decision” gets more bleh.

    • chrisfchi

      As long as it doesn’t turn into LeBron James’s “decision” I will be happy

  • cubzforlife

    Girardi is technically not available.

    • Jon

      “Well, technically…” Blah, blah, blah!”
      [img]http://www.zuguide.com/image/Bradley-Whitford-Billy-Madison.4.jpg[/img]

  • Kevin

    Just one more reason to hate the Yankees!

  • cavemencubbie

    Tampering? Give me a break. It’s one thing to approach someone who has a year or more to go on his contract, quite another for one who has a month. If the damn yankees wanted to keep JG they could have offered him a good renewal 6 months ago. I am not a JG fan but anyone has the right to test the monetary waters for his services. Anyone who thinks there is such a thing as FO, player or manager loyalty is smoking some great weed. It’s all about the money, stupid! What I do find interesting is the time it is taking for JG to make up his mind, but then again I am not privy to all the news.

    • Jon

      ” If the damn yankees wanted to keep JG they could have offered him a good renewal 6 months ago. I am not a JG fan but anyone has the right to test the monetary waters for his services. ”

      Couldn’t have said it better myself. Excellent point.

  • Jon

    Tampering is much like the speed limit. And right now the Cubs are doing 40 in a 35 MPH zone.

  • Eric

    I think Acta is our horse in this race.

    • lmendez

      I agree. Acta should be hired soon. He has the Latin American presence that the team needs, will help player development with guys like Starlin, Baez, Alcantara, and Soler. Also a huge plus is he is inclined to sabermetrics, he will put players in position to succeed.

    • http://It'searly Mike F

      Acta has been a loser twice not once. If he’s a horse, he would be compared well to a nag. He has also been described as the Nationals Sveum. People couldn’t wait to fire Sveum and now we want a repacked version. Acta and Hinch are just more of the same, who if they get off to a bad start will be exiting quickly leaving the organization in disarray. You have to think ahead on the chess board.

      • lmendez

        http://www.baseball-reference.com/managers/actama99.shtml

        Go to this link and just take a quick glance into the teams he was given during his Nationals years. He just didn’t get a fair chance, those are very mediocre rosters. Given the quality of Latin American players in the cubs system, and the sabermetric knowledge he would seem like a sound fit for the team. With the prospects coming up in mid 2014 and full force 2015 I believe he can have success if all the right pieces fall into place.

      • Eric

        Terry Francona. Tony LaRussa. Those two off the top of my head started off horribly and went on to great success.

        • http://It'searly Mike F

          Here’s the thing, we delude ourselves if we think the Cubs roster was underperforming. Sure Castro and Rizzo didn’t play up to expectations, but there is ample reason to be concerned the expectations may be the problem. And that always fails to take into account a slew of people who may have been exceeding expectations.

          And we shouldn’t fool ourselves, none of these second tier guys have shown anything close to LaRussa. While he failed with the White Sox, he was superior in Oakland and St. Louis. As to Francona, he is a mixed bag, but he wanted Theo to interview him and Theo made clear when he came to the Cubs he wasn’t interested.

          You have to think ahead. If someone gets off to a bad start, they will need something to fall back on, he isn’t winning but he has in the past therefore we can hope thing. Acta and Hinch being proven nannies is far less important than people think. Do you really think LaRussa was Cardinal in nanny in chief. This whole development centric thing strikes me as scapegoating and neutering the manager. It is the GM job to get coachable players. It is the manager’s job to manage. I’m in Theo’s corner, but it seems inevitable to me, Theo wants to micro a lot of things. And all rhetoric aside Acta who has drawn comparisons to Sveum strikes me as pointing to scapegoating.

  • jh03

    I’m ready for this search to be over already. Everybody has an opinion that every canidate sucks for some reason, and it’s gotten pretty old, pretty fast. As outsiders, we only know so much about a manager. We have no idea how good he (maybe she, someday lol) actually is at developing players, handling players, teaching, communicating, etc. If we can accept that this is a pure FO decison (I know some can’t, and that’s fine.), I don’t think it makes any sense to doubt what the FO wants in this case. Player moves are different, we can see numbers and visibly watch what they do from day-to-day. With managers we can’t. We just kind of have to trust that the FO really does find their guy and can get him, because only they really know what they want. Which probably scares the hell out of some people ha. Whether it be Acta or Joe or even Al Yellon, if they believe he’s right for the job, and they’re theo ones making the decision, I feel like we’re in no position to doubt it, because we don’t have enough information to judge it properly.

  • Brains

    The problem is that the team has set artificial constraints on its own progress, for whatever reasons contrived, diabolical, or in poverty.

    Players want to play, if we pay them they’ll come here. But good quality management is going to look elsewhere to a team more on the level and more inclined toward success instead of mere profiteering. We have no chance at Girardi unless the team gets him players he can manage for success. It’s very simple. We’re going to have to go with a young thirsty manager who’s going to make mistakes, or pull from a pool of second tier coaches with optimistic blood.

  • Blackhawks1963

    Very curious that there is nothing coming from Girardi or the Yankees regarding the new contract offer. Something has to break on this within 48 hours. Yankees aren’t going to wait until October 31st on Girardi. At some point they pull the offer and move on to Plan B. I also get the feeling that Girardi is conflicted as to whether he really wants to manage in 2013. Maybe the guy wants to go to the booth for a few years?

  • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

    Yankees are like an obsessive but popular meatball boyfriend whose main squeeze has a wandering eye…and what’s out there is better than what she’s got. Only, she’s scared because: “I’m suppose to date this guy. He’s popular. QB of the losing football team. He showers me with attention and shiny gifts.” Only, its never about the relationship, just satisfying his controlling ego – keeping her on a short leash.

    But Joe has to wonder if he wants to get knocked up ‘again’ by the Yankees.

    Try something new Joe. The Cubs will pay you. And real estate is cheaper here than in NYC area. (You can have a car dealership too in no time – Bob Rohrman gotta be getting close…to the great gig in the sky.)

    • Blackhawks1963

      Yeah, but Girardi is “defined” as a Yankee way more than he is a Cub. He was an integral player and team leader to 3 World Series Championship teams as a player in Pinstripes. And he’s one a World Series as the skipper in the Bronx. He’s enormously well respected in NY (which is the toughest stage on earth) and works for the most prestigious and successful franchise in all of professional sports. I still don’t get why he walks away from him legacy in New York, especially to come to the Cubs?!? So what that he grew up in Peoria, played at Northwestern and came up with the Cubs. His resume shouts YANKEES way, way more than Cubs.

      • EQ76

        true, but being the manager that finally gets the Cubs to a WS title will far and away overshadow anything he’s accomplished in NY.

      • WGNstatic

        The one reason, outside of any personal/emotional factors which I won’t pretend to have any insight into, that I can see Girardi leaving NY is that he sees some pretty lean years ahead in the Bronx.

        That is an aging roster with little in terms of reinforcements coming along. If he were to leave now, and in 3 years the Cubs are winning and the Yankees are losing, his managerial star is all the brighter.

        • Blackhawks1963

          True, but I don’t see the Steinbrenner boys tolerating much losing. And I’m also not buying all this “fiscal responsibility” talk coming from them. They will be aggressive in free agency like they always are, and they will also be aggressive in acquiring the “bad contracts” of other teams as a way to build. I can see them going big time after Garza and Tanaka. I can see them going big time after Ellsbury and Choo. I can see them very aggressive in the trade market.

          • Cyranojoe

            Not this year. In two years, yes. Which will kind of suck for the Cubs, I suspect.

          • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

            If the A-Rod drama shakes out to their favor, thats about 35M to shift to those contracts.

            https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ah4PW47PiAi-dHlNa3NEdk5laU5raUVXX0FSQ2ZQV0E&output=html

            Take A-Rod off the 2014 payroll, and they have about 100-110M to play with under the luxury tax ceiling (with bumps on arb players factored in.)

            Very easily could sign 4-6 players at 13-20 million per in 2014, with backloading of contracts going forward. So, Cano – they should let go if he can’t take 20M for 6 years…(which to me is A BAD DEAL, but that’s the trend MO Money.)

          • ssckelley

            The Yankees are at the maximum luxary tax penalties, they want to get below the penalty level this year so it “resets”, saving them millions of dollars. With the Yankees shedding some contracts this year it is the perfect time to do it.

      • WGNstatic

        On another note, I looked up Girardi’s Baseball Reference page and a few things jumped out at me.

        First, is that he was actually a better hitter than I recalled. Second, I see that he is rated by BR as the 1,522nd ranked hitter of all time, right behind Randy Hundley who checks in at 1,521. Interesting.

      • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

        I appreciate the compendium of accomplishments. I knew that. I know his bio.

        But to address what I think your point is, he should be defined by his current position as a Yankee?

        Why?

        If you really desire to be successful in life, in general, you must try new things.
        Expand your horizons – and be willing to take reasonable chances. Or at least, be willing to risk failure….taking a Chicago job is that risk/ with enormous upside.

        In only 7 years of managing, he’s all ready won a WS, manager of the year award, and now will be the 1st or 2nd highest paid manager…So, what motivation does he have to stay in NYC? To manage that drama – see if A-Rod can smear MLB to submission?

        I guess that could motivate…

        He’s 47, and could manage for 10-20 years more. As you stated, he won in NYC.

        Is that REALLY accomplishing something??? Huggins, McCarthy, Stengel, Houk, Martin, Torre, Girardi have all won in NYC.

        How many in Chicago? Frank Chance.

        Joe could play it safe. Stay put. No doubt. But at 47, if he stays for 4 or 5 more years, it gets harder and harder to think about moving on…if he wins again in NYC, in 2017-8, does he somehow get more satisfaction? I doubt it.

        If the Cubs win by 2017, and he’s the manager, the satisfaction, and HISTORICAL signficance jumps. As few have won with multiple teams and in both leagues. He become assured of a legacy..staying in NYC, he’s just another successful NYC manager of lore….one of many, NOT SPECIAL or unique.

    • cavemencubbie

      Perhaps he should give her a ‘gift’ in the shower? :)

      • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

        Only a caveman would say it…or DO IT!

  • Jon

    The whole “expanding horizons” thing is why I think we should make a play for Joe Maddon(and why I think Maddon should leave)

    he’s widely regarded as the best manager in the game, but is saddled with a roster that is always turning over players, and a lethargic fanbase.

    Wouldn’t he love to win a WS in a huge market?

    • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

      And what do you think Tampa wants for that other Joe of note?

      Tampa doesn’t just give him up. I suspect he’ll be inline for an extension every bit as good as Joe’s contract. (And he probably likes Tampa – I would – for the climate.)

      He’s possibly a different sort: for one, he hasn’t won it in Tampa. THAT’s BIG. He has something still to prove.

  • Blackhawks1963

    Joe Maddon is under contract with Tampa thru 2015. He’s happy in Tampa and there is no way Andrew Friedman is going to let him go. Where on EARTH does this discussion of his availability OR interest derive?!? I don’t get it. Yes, the Rays are payroll challenged and have an awful stadium and fan base. But they are perennially successful, and Maddon is a rock star with the Rays. He ain’t going anywhere folks…at least not for the next two seasons.

    • Jon

      He could be a rock star with the Cubs and triple his salary to boot.

      • Blackhawks1963

        He’s under contract. For two more seasons. He is not a free agent manager like Joe Girardi is.

      • Kyle

        Until the first 72-90 season or the second playoff ousting, then he’ll be turned on just like all the others.

        • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

          What drives our interest in Tampa? Well, 5 years of 90+ wins in the since 2008. http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TBD/

          Cubs 90+ win seasons: 5 times…since…wait for it….1945!

    • When the Music’s Over

      Yep, the homer attitudes are out of control in terms of thinking that ALL managers will 100% want to leave their very comfy positions to come manage the Cubs.

  • FastBall

    I don’t there is any signficance to Acta having a 7 hour interview. There are a lot of thing to cover in an interview process. I think the Cubs just keep going through the motions of interviewing candidates. They need to have some kind of governance over a process. Ensure all the boxes are checked off for every candidate. This will take some time. Anybody worth their salt is going to be considered by the Nats and Reds as well as any other job that comes open this month. None of this organizations are going to jump in and hire some inexperienced coach. You don’t hand the Nat’s or Reds over to some clown and his possey. Patience will be required to wait on Girardi. Theo & Co. need to not be a part of any back channel communications from here on out. You have to respect the contract the Yankees have with Girardi. I think our organization over stepped the boundaries to some extent when hiring Theo from Boston. Cubs don’t need to be pegged as operating outside the rules of MLB.

  • Americanha

    I laugh at all these yankee fans on twitter saying no one would ever leave the yankees for another team. No more Rivera, Pettite, Jeter (soon enough anyway), little talent in the farm system, aging sqaud, questions about sabathia, the new tax threshold, possibility of not bringing back cano and kuroda, cashman’s contract ending next year, having to deal with arod. All these things are probably on his mind, but that being said if I were Girardi I would take the nationals job over the cubs. The cubs are still a ways away and have core guys regressing.

    • Justin

      I think there is a fair argument that the Yankee job might be the worst in all of baseball even with the rich history over the next several yrs. The expectations are going to be thru the roof as always, and cupboard is bare unless your into terrible contracts with old, past their prime dudes, a shrinking payroll, turd farm system, and all the ARod b.s.

      • When the Music’s Over

        People appear to be way to caught up in the Yankees shrinking payroll. It’s still likely to be around $190M next year (2014 Luxury Tax limit is $189M). If Arod gets suspended and his payroll next year goes away, the Yankees might only have about $65M committed after taking into account credits paid by other teams for players like Soriano and Wells. They are going to have so much money to spend.

        https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tpQLwiiQL4kzEzLhsUqVjLQ&output=html

        • Justin

          OK, take the payroll thing out, and I still think it’s a shit job with all the other issues they have and enormous expectations after the run they have had the last 15 yrs. Plus, the ARod thing is a big if. I think there is a good chance the suspension gets marked down a ton.

          • When the Music’s Over

            Ok, put Arod back in and the Yankees still only have a $90M payroll and relatively cheap Arbitration cases. I’m just trying to make a point that this is the type of exercise the Yankees front office is likely going through in attempting to keep him on board. The Arod headache is certainly an issue, but other than that, there really isn’t much drama with that team right now.

            • Justin

              OK, I guess I just don’t see them being successful at all in the AL East in the near future. Plus, like all the other teams in that division way better than them over the next 3 yrs. But maybe I am off and they find ways to spend ass loads of money on players who come available out of nowhere. Who knows.. If I am a manager in demand I would sure want to talk to other teams too, though. Just saying…

            • Playoffs!

              I don’t agree with the comment there isn’t much drama in New York. A-Rod is suing the Yankees doctor, and the MLB… Toxic work environment much? Let’s say JG stays in New York, and misses the playoffs after signing a new deal. Are you telling me New York won’t freak out after that..

        • Justin

          Plus, your math is way off. If you take out ARod’s full salary next year (a big if) it’s way more than $65 Mill already committed when you add the salary arb guys. Plus who all are they going to sign. I think we all can tell free agent classes blow compared to what they were when the yankees were doing there thing in the past.

          • When the Music’s Over

            Way off is quite a stretch.

            The Yankees don’t have many arbitration cases, and the majority of the ones they do have are cheap. The only ones of substance are David Robinson and Brett Gardner. Maybe all in, the arb cases reach $10M.

            The Yankees can sign plenty of guys.

            One of Choo or Ellsbury – $15M
            Cano – $20M
            Kuroda – $15M
            McCann – $15M
            Jeter- $7M
            Garza – $15M

            You can mix and match however you want, but either way, they are going to have a ton of money to blow should they want to do so.

            Again, I’m just showing an exercise that I’m guessing the Yankees are going through with him to show that they can be very competitive in 2014 and beyond.

        • ssckelley

          Explain where you see the payroll being around 190 million. Baseball Reference has the Yankees estimated at $122.8 million including options and arbitration estimates. They need to get below $189 million, which leaves them around $65 million to resign players like Cano, Granderson, and Kuroda. They do have some holes to fill but I cannot imagine them going crazy in the free agent market. After this year they will have paid over $250 million in luxury taxes, $29 million this year alone. Right now they are paying the maximum penalty (50% of anything above the tax rate) compared to 17.5% the Dodgers pay for being first time offenders ($9.9 million). If they get under the tax next season in 2015 they will be able to go back to over spending while dropping their tax rate from 50% down to 17.5%.

          • When the Music’s Over

            They have $36M in payroll credits from other teams. I think that’s our difference.

            https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tpQLwiiQL4kzEzLhsUqVjLQ&output=html

            As for $190M guess. I’ll I’ve read so far is that the Yankees want to get below the luxury tax line, which would be $190M. Not sure why everyone thinks they will dip way below that.

            • ssckelley

              Baseball Reference includes the credits: http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/2013-payroll-salaries.shtml

              No, you are right they will still spend this off season up to the luxury tax amount. But in the AL East even spending up to $189 million may still not get you into the playoffs. If they get some savings on ARod’s contract could make a significant difference, even more importantly not having him on the active roster. The Yankees will be counting on Teixiera returning to form and veterans like Soriano, Sabathia, and Wells to keep them contending. It is not impossible but would be a big challenge for any manager especially with little to no prospects coming up through the system.

          • When the Music’s Over

            And don’t forget that there’s a very good chance that at least 50% of Arod’s salary is gone as well.

  • YourResidentJag

    In case it hasn’t been mentioned here, Bosio is going to stay per Patrick Mooney at CSN.com. Thank God. Apparently this is why they (Theo) don’t want Mike Maddux.

    • Blackhawks1963

      That’s a VERY curious development if you ask me. And leads me to believe that Girardi WILL NOT be coming to the Cubs. Girardi is not going to want to inherit a pitching coach. He may want to retain Chris Bosio, but he sure as hell won’t accept having a pitching coach crammed down his throat and will demand the ability to pick all of his coaches.

      I get the growing sense Manny Acta is the new Cub manager. I just do.

      • Norm

        Maybe Girardi already said keeping Bosio wouldn’t affect his decision through these “back channels”?

  • Blackhawks1963

    A dose of reality on the 2014 payroll of the Yankees. Rivera, Pettitte, Chamberlain, Hughes, Kuroda, Granderson, Youklis, Cervilli all come off the books this offseason. Ditto Cano ! Ichiri, Wells (Angels are paying 75% of his salary), Soriano (Cubs are paying 80% of his salary) and JETER come off the books next offseason.

    And the Yankees have a multi BILLION TV deal with the YES Network that they own. So luxury tax or not, the Yankees have a LOT of financial flexibility. And the Steinbrenners are always going to spend on salaries.

    • Justin

      I think most people under stand all that. Thanks for the “dose of reality” though. Good luck spending all that payroll on the free agent classes in the near future Mr. Yankee expert.

    • ssckelley

      They have a lot of financial flexibility but they are not stupid. If they resign their own free agents (Cano, Granderson, and Kuroda) the rest of the FA market looks horrible. Now is the perfect time for them to get below the luxury tax for the first time since it was implemented. Take this year for example they went over about $58 million and ended up spending $29 million in luxury tax, they would have only paid $5.7 million had they been first time offenders. I know they have a huge TV contract but saving $23 million is still a lot of money.

      The only question is does Girardi want to be managing the Yankees while they get “cheap” for 1 season?

  • Blackhawks1963

    I’m going out on a flimsy limb and officially predicting that Manny Acta will be named the new manager of the Cubs. 7 hour plus interview yesterday with Theo, Jed and also Jason McLeod. Cubs retain Chris Bosio today…Girardi would NOT be wild about inheriting any coaches and would want the ability to interview and have final say on all coaches.

    So yes, on October 8th I’m going to say Manny Acta is the new manager of the 2014 Chicago Cubs. I’ll trust TheoJed and their judgment on this one. Welcome Manny.

    • YourResidentJag

      I have my suspicions as well about this. If Girardi waits to interview with the Cubs and then bolts for say a broadcasting career, then the Cubs would be in REAL trouble with other candidates because of the Nats and Reds jobs out there.

      • Blackhawks1963

        It’s been reported this morning that Fox Sports is prepared to offer Joe Girardi their top analyst job paired with Joe Buck in the TV booth. And that they are prepared to give him a 5 year contract, to INCLUDE opt out language should he want to accept any offer to manage once he fulfills 2 years on his Fox contract.

        Maybe Joe wants to go the cushy comforts of the TV booth where he will be well paid AND have a lot of free time to devote to wife, children and other pursuits?!?

        • YourResidentJag

          And given that it’s tied to working with MLBNetwork (headquartered in NYC) why not?

        • Jon

          “IN MYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY VIEW” I wouldn’t replace a savy booth veteran in Tim McCarver with a younger Girardi.

        • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

          I must be missing that specific report.

        • http://It'searly Mike F

          Anyway you cut it there would be a perception Manny Acta is rehashed vomit in the media and fan base. A bad start would cost these guys a great deal. Manny has lost in both jobs and hasn’t been close. Theo needs to be very careful here, he is not on as firm a footing as he was 2 years ago. And frankly on this one, lets be honest even as a Theo guy he hasn’t been as great at picking managers as he might think. He had to fire 2 of his 3 picks prematurely and the third was run out of Boston for what could best be described as animal house mutiny. I think Acta or Hinch are putrid mistakes. Either Maddux or Alomar would be far better to turn the page. If you are going to fire Sveum you don’t replace him with Sveum.

  • FastBall

    The Yankees don’t give a damn about the luxury tax or how much it will cost to put a winner on the field. The owner is not Ricketts. So if somebody thinks the Yankees will not be relevant over the next few years thats not likely to happen. It doesn’t matter what they have in the farm system. Money solves all their issues and they have a ton of it. More than anyone else. They have been operating this way since Christ was Corporal. It’s how they do business always has been and always will be. I wouldn’t call it a shit job being the manager of the Yankees. It’s probably the premier management job in professional sports. Winning the WS as a Cubs manager will be great for somebody some day. It would be nice if you were Girardi and had a WS from both places. I am quite sure Cashman has already told Girardi he will have a far above average roster next season. At this time we are trying to poach their organizations manager because he still under contract. If the Cubs want him they will either find out in a few days he has re-signed or that they have to wait until Nov. 1st. If I was the Steinbrenners and JG wasn’t resigning I would tell everybody else to sit back and relax because your not talking to him until Nov. 1st, he is ours til then so get over it. It’s business and its a tuff business especially when your dealing with the number 1 franchise in the sport. Patience is a virtue the Cubs need to keep holding onto if it’s 22 more days or 48 more hours.

    • Blackhawks1963

      Exactly. If somebody like Ellsbury or Choo does hit the open market (if the Sox and Reds take a pass) then you can bet the ranch the Steinbrenners will be all over both of them. Ditto Tanaka. Probably ditto Garza. And Cano stands the greatest chance of returning to the Bronx versus other destinations. Yankees are going to turn into the Mets folks.

    • ssckelley

      They obviously give a damn or they wouldn’t have made the Cubs and Angels eat most of Wells and Soriano’s contracts or let Russell Martin leave for the Pirates over a $3 million difference. All the signs point to the Yankees getting under the luxury tax next year.

      In coming years there will be stars like Trout and Harper available via free agency. If the Yankees reset their tax now they would save about $90 million if they were to sign either player for 10yr/$300m.

    • gocatsgo2003

      Except that it is pretty well-established that they are trying to avoid luxury tax dollars in the future… sure!

    • Brains

      I think it’s pretty obvious that we’re reverting to fantasy baseball arbitrary salary limit arguments again here. The Cubs have the money, they wont spend it. The Yanks have the money, they’ll spend it. That’s it. Who do you think a coach is going to want to work with when they have their choice?

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