Obsessive New Manager Watch: If Not Yesterday, Word on Girardi’s Decision Today?

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As of last night, the New York Yankees hadn’t heard a decision from Joe Girardi on their offer to bring him back. Might they hear today?

  • According to a report from Gordon Wittenmyer, the answer may well be yes. A source tells Wittenmyer that the Cubs expect to learn today whether they’ll be able to talk to Girardi soon (suggesting that Girardi’s Yankees decision is forthcoming). As I discussed last night, if the Yankees decide to hold out permission to interview Girardi until after October 31 (when he becomes a free agent), the Cubs could be in something of a bind as other managerial openings are vetted and filled throughout October.
  • The New York Daily News finally breaks out the T word: tampering. “Given that Girardi is under contract, the Yankees could potentially file a tampering charge against the Cubs if they believe Chicago is trying to send messages to Girardi about their level of interest as he negotiates with the Bombers.”
  • First, a general response: Overt tampering really would be an uncool thing. When a team signs a guy to a contract of a certain length, a portion of what they’re paying for is the right to have an exclusive period of negotiations when that contract is ending. The Yankees paid for Girardi through October, and they have the right, then, to not have their employee’s plans/thoughts/desires polluted by another team. Sincerely, I get that.
  • Now a more specific response: Given how high profile all parties involved are, I expect that the Cubs have been exceedingly cautious in any indirect communications that have occurred. And even though Girardi is a Yankees employee right now, the fact is that his days there are limited, should he want to leave. If that’s the case, then all sides – including the Yankees – should want to know and act as soon as possible. In other words, this just doesn’t feel like a classic “tampering” situation.
  • Meanwhile, Jesse Rogers says the Cubs’ meeting with Manny Acta yesterday lasted 7 hours. That’s a hell of a first interview.
  • Patrick Mooney discusses, among other things, the Latin American angle to the managerial search, given the proliferation of top players in the Cubs’ system (and at the big league level) who come from Latin American countries.

Brett Taylor is the editor and lead writer at Bleacher Nation, and can also be found as Bleacher Nation on Twitter and on Facebook.

140 responses to “Obsessive New Manager Watch: If Not Yesterday, Word on Girardi’s Decision Today?”

  1. Tennessee Cub

    This just in, CNN is prepared to match any offer FOX makes to Joe G. and they are going to team him up with Wolfe Blitzer. Wow!! This is getting deep!!!!

  2. FastBall

    There’s always the FOX Sports gig. I bet the pay him rather well. That might be a larger consideration than the Cubs. Funny how FOX can send him a job offer and it’s not tampering. Maybe Theo sent his job offer via FOX as well. The pro’s of that job are real nice. Drastically reduced travel, no Arod bullshit, no other cockey assed hi priced players and their bullshit, no Cashman and Steinbrenner bullshit, still get to go to games for free, fly on FOX’s corporate jet vs flying on the team jet. Nice office somewhere with a hot ass admin, (MadMen). I get to home and eat dinner most every night with my wife and kids. Well that could fall into the Pros and the Cons column. Don’t have to wear the same clothes everyday of my your life. Don’t have to do press conferences anymore. Sold… He signs with FOX and tells everybody to piss off.

    1. demz

      Have you at least considered that maybe Joe G. likes to manage and likes to be in the dugout?

  3. Spoda17

    I am not worried about waiting until November 1st… if it really goes that route, then we know he will come to the Cubs.

    If Girardi sees the Cubs close on a candidate, he may publicly say he is going to explore other teams so he isn’t behind the eight ball come November. I actually think the Cubs are in a stronger position the longer this goes on. Jobs will fill up if he takes too long.

  4. bbmoney

    Brett is doing a great job covering this story. But dang I am sick of it already. It seems like some people think it’s Girardi or bust, but frankly I’m not sure he’s the candidate that lines up best with the Cubs FO.

    If I were a betting man, I’d be putting money on Acta getting the gig. Of course it may not be entirely up to Theo and Jed.

  5. Eric

    I still can’t find a source anywhere that confirms Bosio staying on as pitching coach. Anyone got a link?

  6. Spoda17

    I think Theo and Jed are getting zero pressure to land Girardi from Tom. I’m sure Tom weighed in, but I feel if Theo said nope, he won’t fit, Tom would support that.

    1. bbmoney

      I hope that is true.

  7. DarthHater
  8. dshea

    MLB should require all managerial contracts to end at the end of the season (when their team has stopped playing). What purpose does it serve that Girardi is frozen for a whole month while other teams fill their managerial voids?

    1. Blackhawks1963

      Girardi’s contract with the Yankees goes to October 31st because, I’m guessing, that largely covers the post-season, and lets face it, the Yankees are virtually always in the post-season. I suppose the Yankees didn’t want Girardi to be a “free agent” while the team was still conceivably playing post-season games and thereby creating a giant distraction from winning. Girardi signed the contract, so it’s on him if his dice are in a vise right now.

      1. Hansman1982

        Nah, that’s just a round date that covers them in either scenario and, roughly, lines up with player FA. My guess is that all managerial contracts expire at the same time.

  9. itzscott

    Doesn’t sound too promising. Looks like Girardi is channeling Thomas Wolfe: “You can’t go home again”

    From the NY Daily News -

    “Girardi has maintained all along that his family will be the most important factor in his decision.

    “Whatever is best for the group of us — not one individual, not me or just my wife or just one of my children — whatever is best for us as a group, that’s what we’ll decide to do,” Girardi said on the final day of the regular season.

    His children — ages 14, 11 and 7 — are all enrolled in New York schools and Girardi indicated last week his ties to Chicago are not as strong as they once were.
    “Our home has been (in New York); my kids are engrossed in schools here,” Girardi said.

    “We haven’t lived (in Chicago) since 2006. … My father’s gone, my mother’s gone; there’s not as much there as there used to be.”

    1. DarthHater

      Unless his children have been suffering for 104 years, I don’t care how it affects them. :-P

  10. FastBall

    Okay so I hope it’s not Manny Acta. Get the next best thing to Joe Madden. David Martinez. He has been standing next to Joe in that dugout for a longtime now. Osmosis has to work in there at some point. Obviously Sveum and Quade are not guys you want to gain anything from through Osmosis and they probably never stood next to anyone long enought for it to work on them. Also, we need eliminate anyone who does not have a common last name. We have to uncommon last names in a row and the both sucked. Acta isn’t common enough for me. Martinez is common enough because there about 10 million of them in the US probably. You can probably count all the Acta’s on your fingers and toes. I guess this philosophy eliminates Girardi as well. Are there any Bill Smith’s or Tom Jones out there that have big league experience?

  11. Aaron

    The MIGHTY and ALL POWERFUL New York Yankees are prepared to give Girardi as much time as he needs to decide, even if it means waiting until the end of the month, when his current deal runs out.

    Good for Garardi to not cave into the YANKEES tactic of here is our deal…you have 48 hours to make a decision before WE move on without you. This bodes well for the Cubbies too. Yes a small glimmer of hope for a better tomorrow (and season).

  12. Blackhawks1963

    What we know…

    1. Joe Girardi has been offered a contract by the Yankees
    2. Girardi has a standing offer to join Joe Buck in the booth at Fox Sports
    3. The Cubs have interviewed Manny Acta, AJ Hinch and Rich Renteria
    4. The Cubs have no interest in Sandy Alomar Jr, Mike Maddux or anybody else right now
    5. The Nationals have been very quiet with their own job search, which “may” be an indicator that they too are waiting on the Girardi thing to clarify itself

    What we don’t know…

    1. Whether the Cubs have identified other guys whey they would like to interview once their current employer ends its playoff run (e.g., Davey Martinez with the Tampa Bay Rays)
    2. What Girardi really wants to do for employment in 2014

  13. robert w pfauth cedar spring / grand rapids michigan

    I still think go fined out if toney Larosa still would like to coach again he was a winner with St. luie. and knows the national central div . well and can make both vet & rookies play their best ball .

  14. Nate Dawg

    I really like Mooney’s take on the Acta interview. I often wondered if there was a language barrier between Castro and Sveum/hitting coaches. Castro’s English is a lot better that it once was, but it still seems a little shaky. That might have impeded Sveum’s ability to get through to him. It’s at least something to consider, and one advantage Acta has over Girardi.

    1. Scotti

      The answer there would be to hire a bilingual hitting coach. Starlin did exceptionally well under Rudy Jaramillo–in fact, Castro’s nose dive started almost exactly when Jaramillo got canned (mid 2012). Many players have done well under Jaramillo, however. I doubt it has to do with being bilingual but, rather, being a good hitting coach who coaches to your strength rather than trying to fit the player into a certain organizational philosophy.

      The truth is that the manager is there to lead and create the environment to succeed, not coach the individual players. Let the coaches coach.

  15. Fact Jack

    Look at that cubs fans…1 Team moved on today who signed major league talent and the team who only wants to sign no names and prospects had to play a game 5==== So tell me again how only signing prospects and cast offs gets u anything but a rich greedy owner…wake up and quit following a loser who only talks about prospects…Brett likes losing and Brett and start acting like a winner and start demanding the cubs sign winners , not cast offs

    1. Patrick W.

      You surely aren’t talking about the Red Sox, are you?

      1. Chase S.

        I don’t know what the hell he’s talking about…

    2. Patrick W.

      Boston’s Catcher, DH, SS, and RF tonight were quite literally cast-offs. Their CF, 2B, 3B and LF were all Red Sox prospects and made their ML debut with the team. So, Mike Napoli is what separates winners from losers?

  16. Brian Peters

    Fact Jack smokes too much crack….he knows as much about baseball as a toy in a box of Cracker Jacks.

    1. TOOT

      I’ll agree with that.

  17. arta

    ditto that.

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