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joe girardi managerThe wait is over. Today, the New York Yankees announced the Joe Girardi has finally agreed to an extension with the team he’s managed for the last six years.

The extension is for four years, one more than the Yankees had originally offered, according to multiple reports. This waiting process, and the obvious interest coming from the Chicago Cubs, apparently just bought Girardi an extra year from the Yankees.

For those pining for Girardi, this is something of a bummer, even as it was never likely that Girardi would leave the Yankees. For my part, I’m mostly shrugging my shoulders. While I did believe Girardi was likely to be a fine managerial candidate for the Cubs, I was never on board with spending upwards of $20 million (of apparently limited funds) to get him. Effective managers can be found for much less, and this front office will earn its stripes in doing so.

We’ll never know if Girardi is re-upping because he always wanted to return to the Yankees and he just used the Cubs as a shadow pawn to get the Yankees to add that fourth year, or if it was the Yankees who played hardball and told Girardi the offer was off the table if he talked to another team.

We know only that Joe Girardi will not be the next manager of the Chicago Cubs, and it’s time to let yourself leap completely into the managerial search process, as the Cubs have already done. I could be sold on any of the three named candidates thus far (Manny Acta, A.J. Hinch, Rick Renteria), and I’m open to new information as the process continues.

  • Cheryl

    Well it was somewhat expected. He’ll have his hands full with so many changes in terms of people retiring, free agents, a farm system that’s seen better days, etc. Now, who to choose is the question. The cubs have tried and failed a couple of times. Acta doesn’t excite me. Whoever it is has to have a free hand in managing and have the confidence of the FO and the players. But at the same time I want somebody who will bench a player when he’s not putting in the effort and not for just one day. The players have to know they’ll be called on sloppy play. And I hope the next manager doesn’t use the newspapers or the media to get on players like Sveum did. So, who’s best?

    • another JP

      I’m lobbying for Dave McKay, let’s make it happen Cheryl.

  • Eternal Pessimist

    Good…one more reason to hate the Yankees!

  • Joker

    I said it from the get go and l’lI stick with it. Dave Martinez will get this job.

  • On The Farm

    Almora should bat 3rd this inning

    • North Side Irish

      Almora and Bryant both homer in the 1st inning…your turn Mr. Soler…

    • On The Farm

      Almora with a RBI double

      • Jon

        [img]http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Darwin+Barney+Chicago+Cubs+Photo+Day+bVrXoiQ4SjKl.jpg[/img]

        • mjhurdle

          lol, 2.0

        • ssckelley

          damn Jon, your on fire today.

  • JoyceDaddy

    BREAKINGS NEWS: Theo Epstein has just re-hired Dale Sveum. ; )

    • DarthHater

      Timmy? Is that you? :-P

      • YourResidentJag

        HA!

  • Anthony Martini

    How many PR blunders is this for Theo now ! 3

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      Hopefully that gave the bummed out folks a good chuckle.

    • Brian Peters

      How is this a P R blunder, you half-witted, two toothed moron? Gorardi did not want to come here. Period. From the Cubs side, it was Ricketts who wanted Joe. There’s no record of Epstein buying into Girardi as manager.

      • Jon

        If you are going to call someone a moron, spell Girardi correctly.

        • Brian Peters

          Bahahahahaha!!! How do you spell “cow”?

          • C. Steadman

            C-O-W-E-I-E-I-O….dangnabbit

            • YourResidentJag

              Well ya know?

  • Anthony Martini

    Theo’s honeymoon period is officially over in my eyes ! I better start seeing progress at the ML club level !

    • TWC

      I’m sure Theo is sitting up and taking notice of your displeasure.

    • AlwaysNextYear

      Because a manager under contract returned to manage the same team while the Cubs could not legally contact said manager. Yeah ok

    • Cyranojoe

      Oh yeah, he’s very responsible for the players’ immediate development. I agree.

      How’s that sarcasm font looking?

  • mjhurdle

    Im just hanging around waiting for DieHard’s take on today’s developments…

    • ssckelley

      I am pretty sure Lennie Merullo got added to the list today.

    • DarthHater

      Die hard has been having interviews with Theo and Jed for the past seven hours…

      • Die hard

        For once ur right– I am pushing for Ozzie now that Kess turned it down and Theo didn’t say no

  • On The Farm

    Game cast says injury delay, not sure if its the pitcher or Soler..

    • On The Farm

      Nevermind, computer finally unfroze and Soler grounded out

      • miggy80

        I had the same thing. I wonder if the pitcher had a problem.

    • mjhurdle

      Heh, the pitcher Lorenzen’s ERA is 31.50 right now :) that might cause an injury

  • danimal8

    The Cubs are not close enough to success to pay a manager $0+ million. The value is not there .

    • danimal8

      $20+ million*

  • Terry

    Maybe now the Cubs will take some of the money they were going to give Girardi and sign a decent free agent. I also hope they interview Dave Martinez.

  • On The Farm

    Bryant will lead off the 3rd

    • On The Farm

      Bryant did have a fielding error in the top of the inning.

    • On The Farm

      Single for Bryant

      • Wingit

        What site are you watching the game on?

        • miggy80

          I just googled the Arizona Fall League and the site came up.

          • Wingit

            Got it – thanks!

  • another JP

    I saw this pic and immediately started feeling better about our Cubbies:

    http://muskat.mlblogs.com/2013/10/09/109-heres-the-future/

    • miggy80

      That’s pretty Sweet!

    • jt

      cool

  • Gettingold

    HELP!! I’ve been a Cubs fan my entire life and it’s gotten to the point for me that I’d rather quit my job, open a daycare and change crappy diapers for the rest of my life vs…… watching ownership continue to rape the fan base with the Loveable Looser shlong for another 100 years.

    • TWC

      *sigh*

      Big news in the Cubs world always brings out the best in the comments section.

    • another JP

      Have fun changing those diapers, dude.

    • Cyranojoe

      Ohnoes, they didn’t get a manager they didn’t get a chance to speak to officially.

      Calm down, man. The cavalry’s a-comin’. :)

    • MichiganGoat

      Oh yeah all those people that take care of children and change diapers are such horrible people for choosing that career, I guess you think teachers are just lazy worthless individuals. What insightful commentary, way to thank those of us that take care of kids all day. What a clown.

      • On The Farm

        Teachers are bums, haven’t you seen the news today about how we are falling behind?

        I say this in jest as I will be marrying a teacher, and about 70% of my college friends were teachers.

      • DarthHater

        Our children are being educated by goats and our country is a mess. Coincidence? :-P

      • AlwaysThisYear

        Some of it might be teachers but it’s almost all on the kids. These days kids just don’t give a shit about anything.

    • CubChymyst

      With the name gettin gold I’d expect a more upbeat message.

  • Aaron

    The Cubs minor league teams will be more enjoyable to track next season than the BIG league club will. Thanks for the updates on today’s AFL game. Exciting actually.

  • MichiganGoat

    So glad I’m taking it easy reading comments today

  • cub1

    how about a player/manager?
    & who would it be?

  • On The Farm

    I think Almora will lead off the next inning. That would mean it would be his 3rd AB in 4 innings.

    • On The Farm

      Almora singled. Cue the Barney reference please.

      • ssckelley

        pffft, he does not have enough power!!!!!

    • miggy80

      Single! A triple shy of the Cycle.

  • TSB

    I look forward to the Cubs beating the Joe Girardi-led Yankees in the 2015 World Series.

  • Patrick W.

    I’m developing an app that allows one to hide all comments where the commenter has referred to the front office in some conjoined-name way. Anybody interested?

    • TWC

      You DarthMichiganPartrickHansmen are all the same.

      • Hansman

        Goddamnit it’s singular. Freeking troll.

        • TWC

          Tenses are bedeviling me today.

  • On The Farm

    Soler has bases, juiced, sure would be nice to see him do something today

    • miggy80

      How about you make it a Double

    • On The Farm

      Message received, he got a 3 RBI double. Now lets see Bryant knock him in.

      • miggy80

        Didn’t even want to throw him a strike. Good to see him lay off those pitches in the dirt.

      • bbmoney

        Walk ain’t half bad.

        • On The Farm

          I wouldn’t pitch to him either, not today at least.

          • miggy80

            Another single for Almora!

  • Blackhawks1963

    It’s important to remember that the pitching in the Arizona Fall League is mostly journeyman types. Yes, it is impressive nonetheless that Almora and Bryant have clicked in game one, but don’t read a ton into hitting success in the AFL.

    • On The Farm

      It is also important to remember that Almora and Soler missed significant time this season due to injury, and Bryant is still young into his professional career. I am not going to let you try and “bring me back down to reality”, these are really encouraging signs from our guys. Even if they are journeymen pitchers, most are of the AA variety, so this is also encouraging for Soler and Bryant starting next season at AA (assuming they do).

    • Professor Snarks

      I don’t care if Marmol is pitching, 6-8 with 1 walk and 9 RBI is still impressive.

      • davidalanu

        Yeah, but Almora still hasn’t drawn a walk yet. Just another guess-hack hitter, I guess.

    • ssckelley

      Journeyman types? For the most part they are still solid AA pitchers, some eligible for rule 5 draft. Seeing the young Cubs prospects having success against this pitching when they have not been above high A is still a good thing.

      • ssckelley

        I should add that the pitcher who Almora hit his home run/double along with Bryants home run were off Michael Lorenzen, a number draft pick this June from Cal State Fullerton.

  • dshea

    Gotta say. I’m disappointed about Girardi. I wish we had signed him years back when we had the chance.

  • Mike

    Let’s get some good players in hear before we worry about a manager!!! It’s sad when the biggest excitement is the talk about a manager who might come to the cubs. Now he didn’t come is the big news!!! Who cares!!! It doesn’t matter who comes to manage this worthless team!!! There isn’t one guy on the major league roster that I feel we can’t afford to lose!!! Not one guy to be excited about!!! It will be a long long time before we ever see the cubs win again!! I’m frustrated with they already, sure the farm system is better,and that’s great. But when is he going to try and put a good team that wins more then it loses at the major league level???m

  • Mike

    Damn computer!!! Frustrated with Theo already!!

  • Blackhawks1963

    We know the Cubs have interviewed Acta, Hinch and Renteria.

    But does anybody know who Washington, Cincinnati and Seattle have identified for interviews?!? I’d be very curious to see those lists.

    • YourResidentJag

      Chip Hale, MacKinnon–Seattle (per SBNation).
      Randy Knorr and Matt Williams–Nationals (Wash Post)
      speculation, Bryan Price and dadada…..Riggelman in Cincy.

  • Kramden

    Love how the “sexy” catchphrase when hiring a new manager is Sabermetrics”…. Be interesting to know who the current “Sabermetrician” managers are currently in the playoffs and which ones failed to even make the playoffs .

    • jaslhill

      I would posit that it is more about finding a data-driven manager than necessarily sabermetric-minded. I would also put forth that making the playoffs is much more about the roster than about the manager. One important thing to note, though, is small effects managers can have. In my opinion, Dusty Baker (who is not a data-driven manager, but one of those go-with-my-gut managers) caused the Reds to flop in their play-in game by starting Johnny Cueto. Any thoughts on that?

      • Kramden

        Wasn’t Baker referred to as Captain MatchUp when with the Cubs?

        • jaslhill

          I think he tried to play matchups in some general kind of way … just ask Neifi Perez. I wouldn’t say that means he is data-driven.

    • TWC

      Anyone who thinks that sabermetrics are panacea for all things baseball are fools.

      (Of course, no one really thinks that way. Those people only exist in the fevered fantasies of those for whom an understanding of baseball’s advanced statistics threatens their enjoyment of the game.)

      • TWC

        * is a fool.

        Stupid tenses.

    • Blackhawks1963

      Don’t overrate the value of the manager. That said,

      Oakland’s Bob Melvin – sabermetric savvy working for a sabermetric team with payroll limits
      Boston’s John Farrell – sabermetic savvy working for a sabermetric team with deep pockets
      Tampa’s Joe Maddon – sabermetic savvy working for a sabermetric team with payroll limits
      Detroit’s Jim Leyland – old school, or maybe not? for an old school team with deep pockets

      LA’s Don Mattingly – old school, but that team is LOADED with the best talent money can buy
      Pittsburgh’s Clint Hurdle – sabermetic savvy for a sabermetric team with payroll limits
      Atlanta’s Fredi Gonzalez – ???
      St. Louis’ Mike Matheny – ??? but credited with being very bright and working for the best organization in baseball in terms of repeatedly building talent and that has some payroll limitations.

  • Kramden

    Give me a manager that can in-game manage, handle a bullpen adeptly and make out a good lineup card consistently over someone who’s going to split hairs over matchups.

    I know…. I just committed blasphemy to some of you.

    • jaslhill

      I think the most effective way for managers do all of those things with data. No?

    • Professor Snarks

      I agree with you about the match-up thing being overblown, but I’d rather have a bad manager and good players than a good manager with bad players.

      • frank

        A bad manager with good players pretty much becomes at least an average manager almost by default.

  • Steve Jaeger

    Joe Girardi was very much available after the 2006 season. I believe that Jim Hendry’s greatest failing as Cubs GM was his unwillingness to even consider Joe Girardi, and instead he hired baseball lifer Lou Piniella, whose successful Cub teams of 2007-08 won almost in spite of him. Joe G. would still be managing the Cubs today, rebuild & all, had Hendry possessed the presence of mind to hire him for the 2007 season. What a fit that would have been…

  • On The Farm

    There was another single by Almora, dude is just going beast mode. Thanks Baez for letting Almora have the opportunity to be more than just taxi squad.

    • On The Farm

      Pop out for Soler leaves his teammate stranded.

      • miggy80

        When does a 1 for 4 with a double a 3 RBI’s equal a “bad day”? When you’re playing with Bryant and Almora that’s when.

    • ssckelley

      This is why people should not be so quick to suggest Almora in a trade for Price, Cargo, and anybody else they want. Almora is the real deal, he just needs to keep himself healthy.

      • cubfanincardinalland

        Not to mention, Gonzalez is having serious issues with his finger injury. Decided not to have surgery, is hoping he won’t have the recurring swelling problem again next season. I would not touch him with a ten foot pole. If Rockies shop him, it will be for a reason.

      • frank

        Cue the Blublud retort . . .

        • NotBluBlud

          Almora is nothing more than a singles hitter with good defense. Barney 2.0!!!

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