Torey LovulloThe Cubs will probably have a new manager soon. That’s a sentence I thought in my head a month ago, even if I didn’t commit it to print. I didn’t expect this search, the seeds for which were likely sewn long before Dale Sveum was actually fired, to take over a month. Absent the front office waiting on someone who was otherwise obligated like Torey Lovullo, I just didn’t see the reason for a long, drawn out process. But, as the month has played out, I’m constantly reminded: I’m not in the room. I’m not a part of the process. I don’t know what’s going on behind closed doors or the reasons for a long, drawn out process. Maybe there’s a good reason. Maybe there are several. So I continue wait, as you do.

  • The wait is almost over, though, as Carrie Muskat – among others – says the decision on a new manager will be made this week (we knew it was coming by the start of the GM Meetings on November 11, so I suppose that leaves us but a week either way). With only Torey Lovullo left to be interviewed – assuming that happens as has been reported – you’d think a decision could come at any moment.
  • On Lovullo, as of late yesterday, despite Ken Rosenthal’s report of an imminent interview, the Cubs had not yet requested or received permission to interview him, per CSN. I wonder if there’s a bit of semantics going on, and I tend to think Rosenthal wouldn’t report that an interview was forthcoming if it wasn’t relatively certain. Gordon Wittenmyer also suggested yesterday that a Lovullo interview was coming this week. There have been World Series celebratory activities going on all weekend, so maybe it’s just an issue of propriety and timing.
  • Dave Kaplan reports that, according to a source, the Cubs probably could have had Brad Ausmus if they’d wanted him, but decided that the lack of experience was just too much to overcome.
  • Joey Cora has been mentioned as a possible coach for the Cubs, but that won’t happen if he winds up getting the Mariners’ managerial gig. Cora is reportedly one of the finalists for that job, together with – among others – Rick Renteria. (EMBARRASSING UPDATE: I got my Coras mixed up. The Cubs have been connected to Alex, not Joey. My bust. Carry on.)
  • Boots

    Im not suggesting that I oppose the idea of Lovullo being brought in, but at the surface, he looks eerily similar to Sveum. Managing experience in the minors, former/current coach for the red sox, former MLB infielder. What projects to be the major differences between the two?

    • Jono

      I’m still waiting for brett to tell us what he learned from his 7 hour interviews with each candidate

    • Whiteflag

      Pure speculation on my part, but I believe Sveum had trouble communicating with players and developing younger guys.

  • Die hard

    Look no further than own minor league mgr with 1500 wins

    • frank

      Quade only had 1200 wins as a minor league manager.

  • Brian Peters

    I thought/heard cubs were talking to ALEX Cora, not Joey.

    • Brett

      Crap on a cracker.

      • DarthHater


  • Kramden

    The difference between Sveum & Lovullo …. Sveum failed, Lovullo hasn’t yet.

    Lovullo is this year’s model. The Cubs had a three year lease on Sveum, but turned him in early because they didn’t like the way he ran.

  • DarthHater

    “Dave Kaplan reports that the Cubs probably could have had Brad Ausmus if theyโ€™d wanted him, but decided that the lack of experience was just too much to overcome.”

    Actually, what Kaplan reported is that somebody referred to as “Same Source” (whatever that means) said that he THINKS the Cubs could have had Ausmus if they wanted him.

    • Brett

      I think that’s picking nits, but I’ll make a slight adjustment.

      • DarthHater

        Call it nitpicking if you like, but there’s more than enough internet rumor crap getting reported as fact these days.

        • Brett

          The word “probably” undercut it sufficiently in my mind to take it out of the realm of certain fact.

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  • CubChymyst

    It would not surprise me if a new manager is not named by Nov 11. After Lovullo is interviewed I would thing the 2nd interviews would take at least 3 to 4 days to get done. Then another a day or 2 for the FO to make a decision.

    • dash

      The front office is probably familiar enough with Lovullo that no 2nd interview would be needed. If he says what they want to hear, I’d expect an announcement almost immediately afterward.

  • oswego chris

    MLBTR has their top 50 free-agents listed and where they project them going…not only is it an unimpressive list…it only has the Cubs getting Chris Young and Jouquin Benoit….

    ….oh, happy day…..

    • Andrew

      I’d definitely be disappointed if the cubs didnt sign one or two of the bigger names too but i really would like them to sign chris young. I think a good bounce-back year from him is quite likely.

  • CeeDeeVee

    I want Alex Cora for reasons that may be a little silly:

    He’s the youngest and most fit (other then Martinez). He’s like a year removed from being a player and can be really hands on. Players will respect him since A) he can relate to them since he just retired and was a ehhh decent player…and B) he has a ring as a player….Most people want Renteria but I don’t like the idea of him being limited to being hands on since he just had surgery.

  • Joycedaddy

    At this point I tend to agree with other BN’ers on here. Lovullo does seem incredibly similar to Sveum, I’d like to choose a different route. At this stage in the game, I would prefer Renteria at this point. He seems like the most consistent fit with what the FO wants and seems to hit most of the checks off the box (bi-lingual, development, etc).

  • Blackhawks1963

    It sure seems like Renteria will be the hire. He meets the most criteria. He just does. If they weren’t going to hire Ausmus then why would they hire Lovullo?!? The same “shortcomings” in terms of the publicly announced criteria. Unless I’m missing something.

    • MichiganGoat

      Lovullo has manager experience where Ausmus had only managed a few games in the WBC. There is a big difference, his experience is closer to Renteria than Ausmus.

    • TWC

      “It sure seems like Renteria will be the hire.”

      Oh holy crap you just can’t shut up about this, can you?

      • hansman

        Hey, facts are facts.

  • Chad

    Then why not hire Renteria a few days/week ago? I would put my money on Lovullo.

    • MichiganGoat

      Yeah unless Lovullo doesn’t want the job, but right now I think it’s his if he wants it.

  • Aaron

    Cubs fans are getting a bit more restless these days. Hiring the “right” manager for this team is an important one, especially given the number of high draft picks that will be on the roster over the next 3 seasons, plus the ongoing development of Rizzo and Castro. Then there’s the issue of improving the current major league team roster. We need another quality SP and a lead-off hitter that can get on base via hits and walks…and steal 25-45 bases.

  • Blackhawks1963

    Here is what will happen. The Cubs announce the hiring of Rick Renteria and a lot of people will scream, “it took you THIS LONG to hire THAT?!?!?” If you think the trolls are out in force right now, just wait Renteria gets tabbed. It will take some more 2 minutes to say “Rick Renteria” is spanish for Dale Sveum.

    Going to be a long winter of the trolls until baseball starts again in April.

    • MichiganGoat

      So you are saying Renteria will be the manager… hmmm I’ve never heard that before.

  • Boogens

    “Going to be a long winter of the trolls until baseball starts again in April.”

    You’re right, and at this point it doesn’t look like it’ll get any better once the 2014 season starts.

  • Roscoe Village Fan

    How anyone can get that excited about any of these guys is completely lost on me. Dale was out regardless. Push for Girardi failed and so who cares if they take a little longer? The longterm prognosis of the cubs has so much more to do with the stalled renovation than the manager IMO. Even if it is Renteria now or in 3 weeks, does it matter?

  • DarthHater
    • hansman

      Soo, Samardzija and Castillo for Luvollo?

      • DarthHater

        Who is Soo? ๐Ÿ˜‰

        • MichiganGoat

          It doesn’t matter Boston will demand Castro, Rizzo, Baez, and Bryant.

          • mdavis

            this is insane.

    • MichiganGoat

      WTF are they still hurt over Theo? I smell Larry LouLou is stepping in and being a douchebag.

      • DarthHater

        So, it turns out that all those @BestFansStLouis people were right about Boston after all. Who’d a’ thunk it? ๐Ÿ˜›

        • MichiganGoat

          I would go that far, there are no bomb threats attached to this story

    • ETS

      I can’t say I “hate” them. They did beat the cardinals, but yeah, that’s really stupid (if they are deliberately holding up the process).

      • DarthHater

        Well, in fairness, I hate everybody….

    • CubChymyst

      I thought that agreement was suppose to apply only to FO hiring. This is absolutely asinine.

    • Kyle


      I can’t hate them. The Cubs made an agreement and the Red Sox want them to stick to it.

  • papabear

    Boston has to give permission for the Cubs to interview him or offer him a job even or above the cubs managerial job. MLB has a policy so the big clubs can’t lock up the best managers and executives making it unfair for smaller market teams.

    • mdavis

      right, but since that agreement was put in place of Theo not being able to hire a bosox employee, the sox can technically be pricks and say no. depends on the intrepretation which is the hold up i assume.

      • DarthHater

        Well, thank goodness we can always count on the Commissioner’s office to provide a fair interpretation…

        • Kyle

          If it says “No Red Sox employees for three years,” that’s what it means by any fair interpretation. The Cubs’ argument here kind of reminds me of the Mets’ argument for why they shouldn’t have to give up a first-round pick to sign Bourn when the rules clearly said they did.

          If the Red Sox want to ruin their reputation in baseball by blocking Luvello from a shot at managing, then let them and hire Renteria. Their loss.

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    • On The Farm

      Theo Epsiten got a promotion when the Cubs hired him (went from GM to VP of Baseball Operations) and still had to give Boston compensation.

      • MichiganGoat

        And they are still being asshats can’t wait to hear what Nicky C writes about this.

  • papabear

    They argued that VP was a made up position. After looking what Theo is doing I agree with them. Theo is the Cubs GM with a VP tag.

    This is not taking Bostons employees and moving them over in the same positions – this is a promotion so i think it actually is something different.

    I am probably wrong though

    • Brett

      You are. Epstein is the President of Baseball Operations with the Cubs, with no one on top of him on the baseball side. With the Red Sox, Lucchino was on top.

      • Kyle

        The title may be different, but the job functions are essentially the same. It wasn’t a case where either side was clearly right, although I think the Cubs were more right.

  • kq

    They are just trying to get prospects from the Cubs, that would cost Lovullo too much money.