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stoveThe impending managerial search closure is the hot item right now, but the early offseason rumors persist …

  • There hasn’t yet been much in the way of rumors connecting Curtis Granderson to the Chicago Cubs, even if he is from Chicago. He did make some interesting comments on the radio this week, though, when asked about his $14.1 million qualifying offer from the Yankees (sounds like he won’t accept it, but he’s got until Monday to decide). He seemed to bring up the possibility of returning to Chicago on his own, and noted that coming to the Cubs or the White Sox was conceivable. Granderson is coming off of an injury-wracked season in which he played just 61 games and hit just .229/.317/.407. Before that, Granderson was good for a .262/.344/.503 line since 2007 with 30ish homers a year. He’ll play next year at age 33, and those injuries last year were of the flukey variety. There could be some value in adding a Granderson in left field on a short-term deal (he wouldn’t be blocking anyone, and could be dealt if the need arose), though the loss of a draft pick/pool money is an obvious consideration.
  • Sources tell Ken Rosenthal that the Nationals are in the market for an elite starting pitcher, though Rosenthal mentions only Max Scherzer and David Price (not Jeff Samardzija, who feels to me like a fit, albeit in a lesser vein). The Nationals could be a fit in a Samardzija deal (with pitching prospect Lucas Giolito headlining), but there are so many bridges to cross before that even becomes a reasonable conversation. For now, it’s simply worth watching what the Nationals start pursuing in this regard.
  • Rosenthal adds, by the way, that the Rangers will once again consider dealing from their infield surplus, which is probably of no moment to the Cubs. Ian Kinsler would be an interesting addition at second base, though he’s 31 and is owed $62 million over the next four years or $69 million over the next five. Thing is, the Cubs have Starlin Castro at short (or third or second), and Kris Bryant (third?), Javier Baez (short, second or third), and Arismendy Alcantara coming quickly. That doesn’t even mention incumbent Darwin Barney, Mike Olt or Christian Villanueva. The infield, near-term with the Cubs, could become crowded.
  • On Samardzija, despite the resurgent rumors, Bruce Levine says the Cubs and Diamondbacks aren’t talking about him right now. Of course, Levine adds that a lot of teams would be interested.
  • The Rangers have reportedly re-signed Geovany Soto to a one-year deal, and he’s currently their top catching option (until and unless they’re able to land Brian McCann). Soto actually put up solid numbers as the back-up in Texas last year (.245/.328/.466), and a one-year, $3.05 million deal with incentives (which are probably designed to kick in if Soto winds up being the starter all year) seems like a pretty good bargain for a top back-up catcher. Maybe that bodes well for the Cubs if they seek to retain Dioner Navarro, who also stepped up as a top back-up in 2013.
  • Grant Brisbee wonders if Ubaldo Jimenez is going to find a lack of suitors, given the attachment of draft pick compensation. Jimenez reinvented himself last year after a stark drop in velocity killed his effectiveness in 2011 and 2012. There wasn’t a better pitcher in baseball in the second half of 2013, and I can’t help but wonder if, even at the cost of a second round pick, Jimenez isn’t worth a three-year, $30 million investment. If the market is really as depressed as Brisbee thinks, maybe he could come for less. Of course, at that point, he starts thinking about accepting that $14.1 million one-year deal the Indians have offered him.
  • Mark Gonzalez says the Cubs are interested in free agent utility man Willie Bloomquist, who had a career year (as a bench guy) in 2013 with the Diamondbacks. Of course, a career year for the 35-year-old Bloomquist is a .317/.360/.367 line over 48 games. Feels like the kind of guy a team will overpay, but he certainly does come with some nice versatility – he can play all over.
  • The initial asking price on Brandon Phillips – for the Yankees – was reportedly steep, per Jon Heyman. If the Reds can get anything at all for the declining, troublesome, 32-year-old with $50 million left over the four years on his deal, they should take it. “Steep”? Ridiculous.
  • A Cuban catcher is showcasing for teams in Mexico. Yenier Bello, 28, was a solid backstop in Cuba for a number of years before trying to defect in 2012 and being caught. That essentially took him out of baseball for a couple years, so it’s unclear what has been lost in the interim. The Cubs are as needy behind the plate as any team in baseball, so we’ll keep an eye on this one.
  • carmelo

    Anyone catch the line on D. Bard’s first game—-0 outs, 3 hb’s, 1 bb, 1 wp.

  • Jono

    The cuban catcher got caught trying to defect and got taken out of the game for a couple years? Those must have not been an enjoyable couple years.

  • http://bleachernation.com someday…2015?

    Raicel Iglesias sounds like he could be a nice bullpen arm out of Cuba.

    This from MLBTR… “Iglesias is said by Ben Badler of Baseball America to possess a 92-95 mph fastball with a swing-and-miss breaking ball but questionable control. Badler feels that Iglesias would likely have to begin his pro career in the U.S. by starting in the minor leagues.

  • Voice of Reason

    It’s tough to swallow when you’re favorite baseball team of all time has Willie Bloomquist listed as one of it’s top free agents to sign this off season!

    OUCH!

    Can you say 95 losses again next year???

    That’s ok, though, we’re working on it!

    • another JP

      Where is it reported that Bloomquist is “listed as one of it’s top FA to sign”?? That’s not what Gonzalez said…

      • ETS

        [img]http://www.cleopolis.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/feedTrolls.jpg[/img]

        • ClevelandCubsFan

          someone needs to create a Google Doc of known trolls on this site that we can refer people to quickly. To be fair, it should include some examples of known trolling instances by said poster.

  • bbmoney

    I don’t know if I’m completely overstating the changing market prices of FA’s and specifically FA pitchers, but if the cubs could sign Ubaldo to a 3/30 deal, they should be all over that. I know 2011 and 2012 were ugly, but if he did figure something out, and is anything close to what he was in the 2nd half or 2010 that would be a huge steal. Even if it’s something in between, that seems to be the going rate.

    • Cubbie in NC

      If they sign a guy and lose a 2nd round pick I would be in favor of signing two as the compensation is just a third round pick.

      • bbmoney

        I think that’s an entirely reasonable approach.

        Doesn’t mean they should do it at any cost, but if two of the QO guys are fits in the FO’s opinion and their prices are discounted because of the draft pick issue then yeah, go for it.

        Wasn’t that some of the reasoning Cleveland used for signing Swisher and Bourn last year?

  • http://what? brygo

    Yeah, unfortunately (in the case of Bard) its just another example of you guys having to deal with Theo’s “Red Sox” obsession. Im telling you, Ellsbury, Napoli, Drew and Salty are all on his radar this off season. He is absolutely obsessed!

    • Fishin Phil

      The irony in this post is delicious!

    • Cubbie Blues

      It really sounds like you are missing Theo quite a bit with all the time you are spending here. Need a hug?

      • Jon

        Considering the Red Sox won this world series on the backs of players all aquired by Epstein, I can’t blame him.

    • MightyBear

      I can promise you the Cubs won’t be in on Napoli.

      • X The Cubs Fan

        Or Drew.

        • hansman

          Or Ellsbury

          • Voice of Reason

            Or Lovullo

  • macpete22

    I’d rather have Bloomquist out there than Donnie Murphy

    • terencemann

      I guess I’d argue Donnie is just a younger/cheaper version of Bloomquist with a little more power? It’s kind of a lose/lose argument, I guess.

    • ssckelley

      Don’t need Bloomquist, the Cubs already have Valbuena for that utility role.

  • http://what? brygo

    He didnt acquire Napoli or Gomes or Vic or Drew. Theo is so 2004. MLB is now clearly into the Cherington area. How many teams are lining up asking for permission to talk to Cubs coaches? Hell we just lost our AAA manager to the Angels. We are the model franchise. Theo wants to copy us and be like us. Unfortunately he thinks that means just trying to obtain current red sox personnel. theres much more to it than that

    • cubfanbob

      Dude no need to troll us Cub fans. Grats on winning a WS or three in the last decade. You are right Boston turned it around and is now a model franchise but did you forget this eighty plus years you guys were the Chicago Cubs of the AL ? You think Boston fans would have empathy for us north siders rather than being angry jerk faces.

      • http://what? brygo

        Why should we be upset with the Cubs organization considering how above board and classy they handled the Theo deal

        • Cubs_Questions

          Yeah because the Red Sox are definitely being classy in their handling of Lovullo with just one more managerial job open. Keeping the guy from having a chance that he may deserve is always classy. The Sox are just trying to win a pissing contest at this point.

        • X The Cubs Fan

          Buccholz, Lester, Pedroia, Ellsbury, Salty, Middlebrooks……….

        • Randy

          When the Cubs win the WS I can guarantee you that the Cubs fans wont be trolling on the Sox blogs. We will only be partying saying in THEO we trust now I have 2 words for you brygo- SUCK IT

        • Cardfan

          ..and you are oozing classiness.

          As a third party observer, I would suggest you pick up your marbles and head home. You have no dog in the hunt here. Leave me your email, though, as I may want to head over to an Angels site and piss all over the patrons about the stupidity of signing Pujols to a mega deal. You could give me some excellent pointers on being an unapologetic, vapid tool.

          Oh.. and I would put a little more distance between the present and a 26 GB 5th place finish a year earlier before throwing around “the model franchise” label. Other than that…congratulations!

          • DarthHater

            Well, now you’re just trying to ingratiate yourself… :-P

            • Cardfan

              its so damn obnoxious

          • ssckelley

            Damn, that has to be about the best post I have ever seen from a Cardinal fan. You busted this guys nuts and complimented him while doing it. Nicely done!

    • Jon

      Oh, the Stephen Drew that put up a whopping .344 OPS this postseason? Or how about Victorino and his .647 OPS this postseason.

      Never mind that bat of David Ortiz carried them to a title this postseason. You are such the poster child of a dumbass Boston fan, loud, obnoxious, and uninformed. Kill yourself plz.

      • Patrick W.

        It’s pretty hard to ague Shane Victorino wasn’t a valuable part of the post season for the Red Sox.

    • Patrick W.

      I gotta tell you, it’s pretty impressive a feat you’ve managed. You’ve come on to a blog where just two weeks ago 90% of the regular interacting fans were rooting for the Red Sox to win the World Series and single-handedly made those exact same fans despise the Red Sox. Stunning.

      • JB88

        This.

      • ssckelley

        Agreed, this guy is making Cardinal fans look good. I don’t understand where the hate is coming from, losing Theo does not appear to be much of a loss for them. I could understand if the Red Sox turned into a bottom feeder after Theo left but it appears he left the organization in pretty good shape.

        • DarthHater

          “this guy is making Cardinal fans look good.”

          Okay, let’s not go overboard.

        • DocPeterWimsey

          As someone who is a Sox fan and a Cubs fan, I’m perplexed, too. Yes, the divorce was messy: but that had much more to do with the bitterness of the Sox going from the best team in baseball to one of the worst in a matter of days in late August – early September 2011. Fans blamed the manager, the GM, the clubhouse, etc.: and for some reason they missed the fact that all of those pitchers starting in September were hurt of AAA no-names.

          Last year sucked. We blamed the divorce, we blamed Valentine, we blamed the Curse of Manny: but, again, we should just have blamed the Red Sox DL for having a pitching staff that would not look out-of-place on an All-Star Roster.

          Now we have seen our team win the WS for the 3rd time in 10 seasons and make post-season for the 7th time in that decade. The team reBOUNDED rather than being rebuilt. We (as a collective entity) really just went hysterical over the something that it is really tough to control: injuries to starting pitchers.

          (As a Sox fan, I would say that we got equally lucky in reverse this year: the probability of Lester, Buchholz AND Lackey all coming back strong from injuries was really really low: ordinarily at least one if not two of them would come back diminished.)

          Henry needs to get over 2011: and apparently so do some Sox fans. (Not me, though!)

    • ari gold

      We lost our AAA manager to the Angels? DAMNIT! We’re f’ing toast this year

    • On The Farm

      Theo wants to copy the Boston franchise? That’s one way to put it considering he built the Boston blue print. More like he would like to continue doing the same thing he has been doing, but whatever. Apparently Theo had no part in building the current Boston team, so therefore he can only hope to copy Boston’s success.

    • Jim L

      This guy is making Yankee fans sound humble.

    • terencemann

      Ben Cherington owes his career to Theo Epstein.

  • http://what? brygo

    Has Theo sent out the mandate to all players that they will have to grow beards prior to spring training?

  • http://what? brygo

    You shouldnt let one fan dictate your feelings about another baseball team. And I only came here after reading that ridiculous blog trying to blame Theo not getting his man on the Red Sox. Again the Gammons article points out clearly: the Cubs never asked for permission

    • Eric

      I don’t understand what you gain by posting on a Cubs fan site if you are a Boston Red Sox fan. Surely your intentions are of the honorable variety…

    • Chad

      We got it. Now leave and don’t come back.

    • DarthHater

      You’re right. It would be wrong to blame the Red Sox. But you have definitely shaken my faith in pencildick pissants.

      • Fishin Phil

        That is an insult to pencildick pissants everywhere! I demand you take that back!

        • DarthHater

          Can’t. Brygoscrewyourself has tarnished them all.

    • On The Farm

      So you are allowed to let one writer dictate your thinking, but if a writer goes against that line of thought he is a Hack (isn’t it funny that you said it was sad posters were resorting to name calling on this site, yet you do the same thing about a baseball writer with conflicting information – at least I find it funny). But please, go on with the borophyll.

    • hansman

      Not sure why folks like going onto sites and getting banned but:

      [img]http://www.elevenwarriors.com/sites/default/files/images/users/b_pbucksfans/1350317098_banhammer_forecast.gif[/img]

  • Blackhawks1963

    It will be really interesting to see who the Cubs go after in free agency. I’m guessing that there will only be a couple of marginal adds. If anything “big” is going to happen, I think it will be via trade. With Samardzija and Castro possibly being in play.

    Granderson already is getting lots of attention. But 3 years at $45 M plus is a turnoff. Especially within Bryant and/or Baez, plus Soler and Almora, figuring into the outfield picture soon enough. Grandy strikes out 200 times a year and is 33 years old. Plus his defense has deteriorated big time in CF. No thanks.

    • Chad

      He wouldn’t be in CF for the cubs, I would guarantee that, and I doubt the cubs would give him 3/45 especially since they would lose their second round pick.

      • YourResidentJag

        I don’t know. Given that most on here would like to trade for CarGO, a 2nd round draft pick loss hardly matters.

        • Chad

          To some on here, yes, but to the FO I don’t know.

    • caryatid62

      Soler would likely only conflict with Granderson in his final year of a 3-year deal. Almora would like only conflict with possibly the last half season.

      This doesn’t mean that Granderson is a great idea, but a 3-year deal is nowhere near going to conflict significantly with the progress of those two.

    • YourResidentJag

      So, where does our additional LH offense come from? Not from Almora or Soler. Also, they can’t play three OF positions as two players, can they?

  • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

    Granderson should not be a overwhelming candidate, for these facts:

    K%: 28%
    O-Swing (Balls outside Zone): 30.8%
    Z-Contact% (Balls inside SZ): 80.1%
    Contact % (All pitches): 69.6%
    MLB Avg on O-Swing% (100PA min.): 29.78%
    MLB Avg on Z-Contact%: 87.28%; St. Dev. = 5.123%
    MLB Avg on All contact%: 79.4; S.D. = 6.36%

    So Granderson was slightly below on Swinging at balls outside the SZ AND negative -1 S.D. on making contact inside the zone AND -1 S.D. on all contact. This bodes towards a Corey Patterson-like player to watch. Swings at bad pitches, and missing Strikes, and missing balls in general.

    Chicago fans – you’ll turn on him quickly.

    By comparision: David Murphy
    O-swing: 27.90% O-swing
    Z-Contact: 93.7%
    Contact%: 86.3%

    Murphy is more patient than league average; makes contacts on strikes; and near average on pitches in general. (Best guys at hitting balls outside the strike zone are Victor Martinez, Placido Polanco, Marco Scutaro, for examples…)

    Murphy is younger…and will come cheaper off a down season. Let’s try that.

    • Mike F

      I would not chase Granderson. I get that he is somewhat intriguing but he’s going to have to get more 14M to not just take the Yankees offer. I would far rather pay Ellsburry who is younger the 22 M a year for the next 4 years and assume Granderson rate at his age. So you end up somewhere around 130 to 150M for Ellsburry. If you get cheaper great. But no way I would pay Granderson 30 plus for 2 years or 45 plus for 3, just makes no sense to me at his age.

      • ssckelley

        Granderson will not get 14 million per year from another team. IMO he would be dumb to pass up the 1 year deal the Yankees are offering. If he comes out next year and proves he can still hit and is healthy then he becomes a free agent again next off season where he can get another 14+ million.

        Remember when Carlos Pena passed on the Cubs qualifying offer? He ended up signing for less with another team.

    • Wilbur

      Good factual breakdown of the alternatives …

    • YourResidentJag

      I get the Murphy argument. However, compared to Ellsbury or Choo. That’s an argument I don’t get.

      • jt

        FO seems to have short fingers and long slim pockets.

        • DarthHater

          Now this, I like.

          • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

            See below. And ^^^This.

        • YourResidentJag

          Yep. They do…. while waiting around for product.

    • YourResidentJag

      Just one question though, when he makes contact with power (which BTW he’s proven to do throughout his career) does he really resemble Patterson? I would say a resounding…NO. When he makes contact, it’s solid contact. Patterson didn’t do this nearly enough to bode well for that comparison. You lost me, there, Jason.

      • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

        Don’t get me wrong, he’s popped the ball. Remember Yankee Stadium is still (and maybe by design again) a lefty haven for power.

        Here’s a more enlightening visual display of David Murphy versus Curtis Granderson. What I see is Murphy does what Granderson does, has power to RF, plus a bit of gap power to LC that Curtis does not show. So, We should add David Murphy instead of Curtis. The hometown guy is not the answer. And I didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn last night…

        http://public.tableausoftware.com/shared/WND7383ZF?:display_count=no

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        • YourResidentJag

          Again, no problem with the Murphy argument. Corey Patterson…well…

          I also believe the park effect is overstated here. The market will command $10-$15 mil for Granderson for 2-3 yrs. Just like Edwin Jackson could be argued, with a dearth of LH power….I disagree. My short is yes….if it’s more in the lesser of that range. Certainly not $14 mil plus.

          • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

            I think we can get Murphy for at/under $5 million/yr for multiple years to do the same role Granderson wants at a much higher rate.

            So to me, that’s at least $5 million less than Granderson per year. That’s savings towards plausibly a good RP; or a another flier on a SP, since we paid that for Scott Baker’s meager contribution. Or bank for a mid-season acquisition of a talented guy if we are in the race in 2014….

            But will see what shakes.

      • http://deepcenterfield.blogspot.com Jason Powers

        Don’t know if my other comment will get moderated soon, but Granderson is no better than Murphy on popping the ball. In fact, Murphy hits some Left-Center field gap balls that Curtis does less of over 324 feet (the link embedded.)

        I have no visual/statistical information, but my reckoning is that Granderson is much better than that, but so then you get a “Corey Patterson plus” guy.

        It was an mediocre example of a guy that K alot, swung at pitches out of the zone, and muscled up to pop balls out. Granderson does it much better, but is he worth 10-15M to do it for the Cubs for 2-3 years? Short answer: No.

        On Choo and Ellsbury: ask this question, will the Cubs likely outlay 100/150M+ contract for an over 30 ballplayer? (Has the last 2 seasons projected than EITHER 100M+ OR the PRICIER over 30 ballplayers are targeted for acquisition?)

        And I have argued for Ellsbury before…so I admit that.

        But its unlikely given what we think we see as a pattern with the FO/Ownership. It’s a strategy – with nuance, I would suppose too. (So, they could do it, and surprise me and others here.)

    • jt

      thanks

    • cubfanincardinalland

      Good facts, but you are comparing two completely different kind of players. Granderson is a power hitter, he has hit 40 plus homers a couple seasons. Of course a controlled swing hitter like Murphy will make more contact. But he gives you little power, does not look to drive the ball out of the park. He’s averaged around an .800 OPS the last five years, hitting in one of the most hitter friendly parks in baseball in Texas. Pass.

      • YourResidentJag

        Plus didn’t Murphy prove that when Texas gave him the opportunity to play full-time he could sustain his offensive number compared to the part time role he’s historically had as a player?

  • Cheryl

    It will come from the slow introduction of minor league players and a few trades. One thing we can look forward to next year is that Boston won’t repeat as world series champs.

  • miggy80

    Whoa! Zonk leaving the booth!

    • Fishin Phil

      Loved him as a player, will not miss him in the booth.

      • miggy80

        He was kind of hard to listen too, yet most of the games were too.

  • waittilthisyear

    thanks to our new poster, i offer my thoughts on Boston:

    The year was 2011. The New York Giants and the New England Patriots were to compete in the Superbowl in Indianapolis. At the time, I worked at the Enterprise Rent-A-Car at the O’Hare Airport. These 2 facts resulted in countless New Yorkers and Bostonites flying into Chicago and renting cars from my coworkers and I, then driving to Indianapolis. Going into the weekend, I did not have any strong allegiances to either team.

    The New Yorkers were loud, but charming and funny. The Bostonites were loud, but obnoxious and rude. Then, as soon as we stepped outside, like clockwork, the Bostonites would comment on how rude and obnoxious the New Yorkers were. I can’t emphasize enough just how repulsive the great majority of these people were. My coworkers shared similar thoughts. I left that weekend with a deep hatred for all things Boston, a hatred that lingers on today.

    Boston may have a strong professional sports culture, but it is full of awful people, many of whom are racists. These types of people are often miserable, evident in Brygo’s trolling just over a week after his team won the season.

    • terencemann

      You could probably say that about any group of fans based on anecdotes, though. Cubs fans have a bad reputation where I live and I’ve witnessed my share of Cubs fans acting like idiots.

    • Funn Dave

      *my coworkers and me*

      -BN Grammar Douche

    • 1060Ivy

      Won’t forget the BoSox at Cubs game in 2005.

      The only time that I can recall hearing a visiting team’s fans start a “1908” chant at Wrigley.

      Stay classy, Boston.

      • DarthHater

        That’s actually moderately amusing. As is this:
        [img]http://www.pictureboston.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/pbalex02.jpg[/img]

    • jt

      what is a Bostonite?

      • DarthHater

        It’s a mysterious rock that takes away David Ortiz’s super powers.

  • Die hard

    The shark has not anything yet to deserve any consideration for anything in way of elite or any other such status– he’s a journeyman at best

    • DarthHater

      Still waiting for those facts about him being a Zambrano-like head case. But take your time, it has only been about 6 months.

  • Moises Canchola

    Cubs just lost Keith Moreland so now they need a radio host as well. Cubs need to get it together

    • YourResidentJag

      No, they just need to replace him with Todd Hollandsworth and be done with it.

      • Moises Canchola

        Todd Hollandsworth is ok when he has time to talk and think about what he is going to say as it is on TV has 9 innings to give you his thoughts. Idk if he will be good on the fly, but then again Pat can carry him. Idk id love to see Woody try

    • Fishin Phil

      Did they lose him to Boston?

      • DarthHater

        Heh

      • miggy80

        Lost him to a shack outside La Grange[img]http://vallieegirl67.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/zz-top-guitar-spin-1373310472.gif?w=593[/img]

    • DarthHater

      Yes, Keith Moreland’s decision that he wants to spend more time at his home in Texas is a truly profound indicator of the sorry state of the Cubs’ organization.

    • TWC

      Seriously?! Moreland is gone?! I don’t care if they sign Tanaka, Choo, Cano, and Granderson for $1 each and trade Paul Assenmacher’s old jock strap for Mike Trout, that that’s the best news of the entire off season.

      • miggy80

        I think Pual Assenmachers old jock strap was the other 14 game consecutive winner for the Cubs

    • Blackhawks1963

      Moreland was terrible in the booth. Worse than Santo, which is really saying something. I can’t recall a single ocassion where Moreland added a keen insight or, heck, even a humorous moment.

    • cubfanincardinalland

      Let’s see how talented Theo really is, and bring back Ronny.

  • Moises Canchola

    I would love to see Cho, Ellsbury in a Cubs uniform along with Tanaka, Johnson/Santana and look at the infield especially second or SS since Bryant will play 3rd soon enough hopefully. But are cubs willing to give up picks for guys who got qualifying offers i think thats prob a No.

    • CubsFaninMS

      Sounds like we’d need to rename our team the Cubdgers.

      • Moises Canchola

        If it gets us to the playoffs every year why not. People complain about how much the cubs used to spend and how that hindered our progress but if the Cubs wouldve won game 6 of the 2003 NLCS no one wouldve said a damn thing.

  • Mike F

    I think it depends on the player. Yes to probably Ellsburry or Choo, I don’t think they would be in hurry to give up a pick and satisfy a soon to be 33 year old Granderson. And who knows about Tanaka. Look they can easily outpay everyone for Tanaka, so it depends on how highly they rate him and if they are determined to trade Castro and Jeff. I don’t believe the protestations to the contrary, Jeff is likely gone they are too far apart in money and his value in terms of young pitching is high. We’ll see on Castro, but again he would bring back premium arms. So Tanaka is someone that if they want they can go and pay, I just think we’d have to know what they do with those two first. I really believe they will do all they can to sign an exciting bat though.

    • Moises Canchola

      I def would rather see the Cubs start getting some elite players through trade and FA no more midgrade prospects that could be ok or flop in 3 years. This rebuilding cant go another 3-4 years. If they go out and only get chris young or some low budget relief pitcher getting paid 200k. I think if they start this year get one or 2 solid hitters and another 2 next year, with Almora, Bryant, Baez, and Soler figuring to come up by then we should have an awesome team. A win yearly team which is what they are looking for. If they get no one look to have this rebuilding thing to be another 5 years

  • http://Bleachernation Lou Brock

    Looks like a perfect opening for Kerry Wood, if he wants it.

  • http://mccarronlegal.com jmc

    is it my imagination or the Cubs fans on this site getting surgery this fall?

  • http://mccarronlegal.com jmc

    oops faulty voice recognition. Surly not surgery

    • DarthHater

      Best laugh I’ve had today. Thank you, sir.

    • Moises Canchola

      With the terrible offense, decision making and lack of not caring for the fans by the cubs (by increasing ticket prices and having a bad product on the field) def would make ppl feel that.

  • Larry Bittner

    Helpful–
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  • YourResidentJag

    Looks like Ken Rosenthal makes a decent argument for why Granderson should be paid: The qualifying offer will hurt Granderson’s market, given the reluctance of teams to sacrifice high draft picks and the accompanying bonus money for free agents. But compare Granderson’s slash line to Nick Swisher’s a year ago, when Swisher landed a four-year, $56 million free-agent contract from the Indians after the Yankees stuck him with a qualifying offer.

    Granderson: .261/.340/.488.

    Swisher: .256/.361/.467.

    That’s right, both had the same .828 OPS in almost an identical number of career plate appearances. Granderson, who turns 33 on March 16, is eight months older than Swisher was as a free agent. Swisher is a switch-hitter, Granderson bats left-handed. Whatever, the two were about as close statistically as players can get.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/curtis-granderson-new-york-yankees-could-reject-qualifying-offer-turn-free-agent-110713

    • Blackhawks1963

      Not a fan of Granderson and the Cubs…

      1. He’s 33 and coming off of a season full of injuries
      2. He’s a 200 strikeout guy at this point
      3. He was extreme benefactor of the short right field porch at Yankee Stadium
      4. His defense in center field has deteriorated and he’s now best suited to play the outfield corners
      5. He’s going to command a 3 year contract
      6. He’s going to cost a 2nd round draft pick
      7. Baez or Bryant factors into one of the Cub outfield corner sports, as soon as mid-season 2014

      • YourResidentJag

        But is he worth the contract though.

        1. He’s 33. Wow. That’s REALLY Old. Don’t sign him. It’s not like MLB players have anything left. Torii Hunter would like to speak with you.
        2. Really? He is…or is that a number you just made up. I said more like 150-175. Difference yes.
        3. No, that’s wrong. The stats don’t prove that at all. Try again.
        4. Yep. which means that’s what he’ll do. And we’ll make room for him.
        5. Oh no. Not a 3 yr deal.
        6. Well, CarGo’s gonna cost you more than just that.
        7. Really, you have them playing the OF. Because I don’t think that’s where Theo and Jed have them playing.

        So…in summation. The analysis of Blackhawks in signing Granderson….shitty at best…wait…shitty just got up and left town. :)

        • Blackhawks1963

          Don’t let actual statistics of Curtis Granderson get in the way of your argument. And reading is fundamental…I said Baez “OR” Bryant factors into the Cub corner outfield picture. One of them is invariably moving to the outfield assuming Castro stays in town.

          • mjhurdle

            “One of them is invariably moving to the outfield assuming Castro stays in town.”
            I think you should look up the definition of ‘invariably’, because i don’t think that is the word you wanted to use.
            There are multiple scenarios where neither Baez nor Bryant ever play in the OF, even if Castro stays in town.

          • YourResidentJag

            Really, stats. Like what stats, Blackhawk? You haven’t provided any other than no of Ks, which independently onto itself tells us nothing about a player.
            For example, if we’re using no of Ks alone…..that would mean that a player (say once again Torii Hunter) should be adversely effected by his K rate alone. When in actuality that player (Hunter), actually had his 2nd highest OBP at .365 and his highest OPS+ of 129 in 2012 while racking up 133Ks. He did this at age 36, BTW.

            Looking at Ks alone really doesn’t tell the whole story. While I’m not at all trying to make a comparison here between two players (Granderson and Hunter), I am trying to illustrate a point that you can cherry pick whatever singular stat you’d like to illustrate essentially nothing.

            And your bogus claim of park effect. Well, it doesn’t exist to the effect you want it to exist.

            No way either Baez or Bryant becomes a corner OF automatically. Source?

    • Patrick W.

      Is that the Nick Swisher who had the second worse OPS of his career in year one of the new contract driven by his second worse OBP and second worse SLG%?

      I don’t think that means a lot but I think it’s interesting.

  • Die hard

    From Bill James Handbook aka Theos Bible- 2014 projections:
    Name PA* 2B 3B HR BB%* K%* Avg OBP Slg wOBA* Anthony Rizzo 680 42 2 30 10.0% 18.1% .266 .344 .489 .397 Mike Olt 551 25 1 24 12.0% 28.7% .225 .318 .429 .371 Luis Valbuena 336 17 1 9 11.3% 17.0% .248 .337 .403 .369 Brian Bogusevic 11 1 5 9.8% 20.0% .264 .342 .396 .361 Ryan Sweeney 313 17 2 6 8.3% 16.0% .275 .338 .411 .360 Javier Baez 584 25 0 22 7.4% 28.4% .270 .324 .438 .359 Welington Castillo 452 24 0 13 8.2% 22.1% .263 .330 .414 .353 Cody Ransom 192 10 0 8 9.9% 28.1% .225 .306 .422 .350 Dioner Navarro 294 12 0 8 8.5% 13.9% .260 .328 .394 .348 Junior Lake 540 32 2 13 5.9% 23.0% .276 .321 …

    • BT

      any chance you could put that into a a more difficult to read format?

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