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  • Robert Feder reports that WGN has compiled a list of nine candidates for the open radio color position (since Keith Moreland’s departure), eight of which are former Cubs players: Rick Sutcliffe, Kerry Wood, Todd Hollandsworth, Mark DeRosa, Ryan Theriot, Eric Karros, Doug Glanville and Dave Otto. The ninth named candidate is Andy Masur, who previously broadcast with WGN before leaving to announce for the Padres.
  • There are no surprises on the list outside of Theriot (and DeRosa, who’s actually under contract with the Blue Jays next year), but it’s hard to see most of these guys willing to take a relatively grueling radio gig. On the bright side, Feder says WGN – presumably with the Cubs’ authorization – will be able to sign the candidate to a deal that lasts beyond 2014, even though that’s when the Cubs’ radio deal with WGN might end (Feder says the person would simply be carried over to the new station). I’m not sure how that would work, practically, given that any station acquiring the rights to Cubs games is going to want to pick their own guy (of course, if the guy is a fit with Pat Hughes, no one would argue). Maybe the Cubs are agreeing to backstop the signing? As in, they’ll pay to cover the rest of the guy’s contract if the Cubs leave WGN and the new station wants to fire the color guy? Or maybe the Cubs would make the new radio deal conditional on accepting the color guy? The Cubs do have input on the hiring decision, so either could make some sense. In any case, who do you like from the list of candidates?
  • At the GM Meetings, Jed Hoyer told the media (e.g., ESPN) that an announcement on the coaching staff would come all at once (boo for reducing the news!), and it could come soon. He added that the hitting coach was likely to come from outside the organization.
  • A reminder that the negotiations to re-up with WGN on the TV side might not be so easy: the Tribune Company reported a decline in revenue from their broadcast division thanks to “significantly lower ratings” for their baseball broadcasts.
  • Scarborough Research attempted to quantify what percentage of Chicagoans were fans of each of the local teams. You’ll have to read this Crain’s piece for the methodology, but if I could try to simplify the conclusions: the Bears were on top, with 58% of Chicagoans being fans; the Cubs were next at 45%; then the Bulls at 42%; then the Blackhawks at 39%; the White Sox were at 38%.
  • The Mesa Solar Sox won yesterday thanks to a huge game from Albert Almora (3-4 with a double, plus a sliding catch) and he gets some special love here. Almora – at 19, and the second-youngest player in the league – is hitting .318/.357/.515. That’s such an Almora line. I love it.
  • Dallas Beeler started that game and threw five scoreless innings, allowing five hits and no walks. He struck out two. Kris Bryant went 2-3 with two doubles and two walks (ho hum).
  • Jose Fernandez won the NL’s Rookie of the Year award, and Wil Myers took it home in the AL. Each wasn’t a particularly close contest, nor should they have been. Myers’ emergence, in particular, is notable: think the Royals wouldn’t mind still having him around? He’ll be in Tampa now for five more years at least, and James Shields will be a free agent after this season.
  • Jacoby Ellsbury is the Carl Crawford of free agency. Great piece by David Schoenfield.
  • MLB and MTV are partnering up for some kind of bullshit. (I kid, of course, because trying to capture a younger demographic should be a heavy focus of MLB for its long-term viability. Illustrating the divide between the organizations, though? Both of the player quotes in the press release talk about how much they’re into music. Cool. But what does that have to do with MTV?)
  • Random note: we had over 800(!) comments yesterday on the site, and I’m reminded that this place is going to be rocking over the next couple months. You are reminded to speak thoughtfully and kindly, and to ignore people who are simply here to stir up trouble. Those types expose themselves very quickly, and, time and time again, it has been proven that the only way to deal with them is to not respond.
  • AaronS

    What level of play is the AFL most comparable to (I understand that is not clear cut).

    • MichiganGoat

      Most say AA, many of the players on there are considered good prospects and many of them are in the A+/AA variety. Good sign for Alomra & Bryant to have such success against that level of talent… but same size alert.

    • Norm

      Position players – AA
      Pitchers – Blah

    • Kyle

      I don’t think it’s as easy as putting a level on it. Very roughly, you’d say above A+ but maybe a touch below AA. The pitching tends to be weaker than the hitting.

      It’s more like an extended scouting showcase or spring training than it is a regular-season minor league.

      • On The Farm

        So probably like A++ or AA-.

        Although I might disagree that the results are similar to extended scouting or spring training considering all three of our position players are facing guys that are at or above their level, but that’s just me.

    • ssckelley

      There are a few good pitchers in the AFL, but it is a mixed bag from A+ to AAAA types. Yesterdays starter was nothing spectacular, Barbato is young but struggled in A+ this season pitching most of the year out of the bullpen.

      • terenceman

        Most of the starters in the AFL seem like guys who will end up as relief pitchers, if they make it at all, due to some flaw.

      • Spriggs

        From what I have seen, each of the 6 teams usually has a starter or two with lots of potential, if not top of the rotation. This year starters like Sanchez, Crick, Solis, Purke, Alex Meyer, Stohman, Heaney, Jungmann, and Taillon (injured and left early) are all very impressive. That does leave a bunch of Beeler types, but not a lot of pushovers.

  • mvander524

    Bleachernation consumes most of my phone battery because of how much I am on it everyday

    • MichiganGoat

      Yup

    • chrisfchi

      I have phone chargers everywhere for this reason.

  • Rich

    I like the Rick Sutcliffe or Andy Masur in the booth…

    • miggy80

      Andy was awesome when he was on WGN before.

      • CubFan Paul

        Put me down for Andy Masur too. In the early 2000s I had to listen to all the non-WGN games and Andy was awesome.

        • YourResidentJag

          Tops on the list for me…forgot about him.

        • arta

          Cubfan, when was Moreland fired? what happened? not a Moreland fan, just missed this news.

          • miggy80

            Moreland decided that he rather be at home with his family.

            • arta

              thanks,

    • Rcleven

      I think Mick Gillispie should bee thrown into the Frey. He did a great job last spring and worked well with Len.

  • James Smith

    i know this has nothing to do with this post but i want other peoples opinion on the moves i think the cubs could do to be more competitive. Sign Choo, hart and, kazmir Scott Sizemore, phil hughes or dan haren

    1. Shin soo Choo CF
    2. Starlin Castro SS
    3. Anthony Rizzo 1B
    4. Corey Hart RF
    5.Junior Lake LF
    6. MIke Olt/Kris Bryant 3B (let Kris compete in camp to see if he can win it)
    7. Wellington Castillo
    8. Scott Sizemore 2B
    9. Pitcher

    1. Travis wood
    2.Jeff Samardja
    3.Scott Kazmir
    4.Edwin Jackson
    5.Phil Hughes/Dan Haren (choose whomever you want)

    SU pedro strop
    CP benoit

    • bbmoney

      I like the idea of signing a couple of those pitchers, I’d throw re-signing Scott Baker into the list as well and Ubaldo if his price gets knocked down by the QO.

      Choo would be a nice add, but at a steep price. Unless we’re pretty sure about Corey Hart’s surgically repaired knees…..I wouldn’t count on him playing in the OF anymore (also that may be the worst defensive outfield in history you’ve got listed there). At this point I feel like Hart is more of a 1b who could occasionally spell a corner OFer. Scott Sizemore….meehhhh.

      And I doubt Bryant is ready for the show opening day, really doubt it. But we can dream.

      • cub2014

        why add corey hart? injured, old, lacks versatility.
        we have Lake and Vitters that will get their shot
        for the right handed bat with maybe Bryant up
        by the end of the year. I would add Choo he
        would cost around 7m more than Hart and would
        fit for so many reasons.

        Again power wasnt the offenses problem last
        year it was having people on base.

        • terenceman

          Hart was not a very good outfielder when he was younger, will be 32 next season and he has those knee issues. I would have serious concerns about him playing outfield everyday.

          • YourResidentJag

            I’d rather have Kelly Johnson.

    • wkranz54

      Why Scott Sizemore? I would rather have Barney’s glove to be honest. It’s a nice wish list, but it never works out like this. Scott Kazmir is going to get a nice pay day, and whether he can hold as a #4 or not is to be seen, but I think we all know he is in his twilight.

      • cub2014

        why add barely mediocre infielders? we have
        barney, watkins, murphy,valbuena,olt with baez
        and alcantera on the way that 7 players for
        2 starting and 2 bench positions.

    • Luis

      Not happening, that’s a big wishlist. Expect them to be on Tanaka, they are really after young pitching. After him I doubt they add someone significant, more depth (bench) type of guys and maybe 1 or 2 pitchers coming back from injuries on one year contracts (ex. Scott Baker).

    • David

      Choo, Hughes/Haren, Benoit, Kazmir I agree. Hart I do not. Choo will put fans in the stands and he can be competitive for a long time. Seriously hope Theo puts some stock in that and not Tanaka.

  • thissitehasgonenutso

    I wake up to Ryan Theriots picture as the main picture in the post and we had an inch of snow last night… this is going to be one hell of a day!

    • Spoda17

      … agreed… I had snow as well…

  • wkranz54

    Man is it just me or is this FA market depressing? I really feel like we will sign one of these 13 guys with a QO (timing just seems perfect), but none of them really seem like a sure thing. There is no way we are signing Ellsbury though.

    • Die hard

      Any signing will be a signal that Theo is not as confident in upcoming kids unless its a pitcher which would be defensible

      • cub2014

        die hard i totally diasagree, theo is reasonable
        same as the rest of us. He knows the majority
        of these prospects arent going to work out. You
        could argue he might be waiting to see who
        starts to fail. But to assume he expected all
        these kids to fill all 5 slots is ridiculous.

        • Brains

          yeah that’s mostly just the basement dwellers at the blog who predict religious catharsis by way of kris bryant. what you’re really talking about is a great PR initiative that has placated us for two years while the owners increase personal profits. “wait until later, really, it’ll be better than before, and in fact your losing right now is a kind of winning”

          • BT

            Oh man, you’re really “telling it like it is”, plus bonus points for shots at basement dwellers. You win the internet for today, and it’s not even noon.

            • Brains

              i won? before 9am? B)

              hmmm it does look like the short pithy posts get the biggest response.

          • TWC

            Ace: “You are reminded to speak thoughtfully and kindly, and to ignore people who are simply here to stir up trouble. … Those types expose themselves very quickly.”

            Less than an hour later:

            Brains: “… yeah that’s mostly just the basement dwellers at the blog who predict religious catharsis …”

        • Die hard

          If you are right then Theo will be gone sooner than later

          • cub2014

            I hope they all make it but no one
            believes that alcantera,bryant,baez
            soler and almora will be our regulars
            for the next 6-7 years. You have to
            add a couple of proven stars in the
            outfield. If 2 of the prospects end up
            being stars then look out you have
            a dominate lineup for years to come.

    • TK

      I think we should get used to this. I believe the FA market will continue to be a few high end guys, and a whole load of unspectacular filler types. Teams have realized that the way to win is to build from within, fill-in with FA’s, and retain (long term contracts to kids) top talent until they’re 30-ish. I think we’re going to see a big uptick in unsigned FA’s come ST. Much more turn-over (replacing guys that opt for FA with prospects from within). I also believe that within the next 2-3 years, we’re going to see a serious dip in the value of those higher end contracts as teams realize they can get by without being held hostage by albatrosses like Pujols and Cano.

  • Brains

    I’d go a step further and say that Ellsbury is Soriano at his worst. He has a lot less good years than Crawford and Soriano, is very injury prone, and can be a great key player in the club house for the right money. But he wants a contract at least double what he deserves.

    4 years at 14m would be appropriate in this free agent environment, any more is throwing money into the wind. Cano, on the other hand, will pay actual dividends, regardless of how much money is spent. it’s pretty obvious that we aren’t going to sign him though, or anyone of worth for that matter. I expect Corey Hart (not bad), and a few 1-2 year gamble deals.

    • Norm

      It sounds like you would be FOR a Cano deal? I’m guessing 6-$150M or 7-$175….you’re ok with that?

      • Brains

        it’s either going in the owners pockets or into team success. they have the money, just not the will. and we won’t have a FA on the market like that for a long time. so the 6 year deal, for sure.

        it depends how you view your own team. are we winners or losers? well, you need a leader to teach youngsters how to be winners. every team that has spent has won except toronto, and that’s just because of injuries. if we spend, we’ll win. or we can sit on our hands and complain about other teams that spend, while they win…

        • ssckelley

          Are you doing this pining for Cano daily or just every other day? It seems like dejavu and I am losing track of how many times I have debated with you on this. You even admit yourself that it will never happen, this FO does not have a track record of giving huge contracts on players on the wrong side of 30. Theo has pretty much put that to rest during the season ticket holder meetings.

          • Brains

            yes but isn’t this grounds for you to be mad at the team, and not brains? you guys are confused about how things work. brains sees an obvious absurdity, points it out until other people see it. and then they get mad at brains for making them see it, not at the people who made things absurd.

            • ssckelley

              Only if you do not agree with the approach of the FO, you and I are on the opposite ends of that spectrum. I like how they are building this organization and I think we are going to be in for a treat when the minors start producing at the MLB level. If they keep this strategy up I can see the Cubs winning consistently and using mostly home grown talent to do it. Yes they will need to sign a few players here and there but when you look around at the successful organizations today they are not built on free agency.

              • Brains

                that’s the PR release. you have to look at how things actually are, not rest on the assumption that a series of draft picks will equate to many years of winning. that’s just not how baseball works, it never has (unless you’re tampa), and it also means that enormous amounts of money flagged for team improvement are simply not going into the team. if you can live with an unlikely fantasy and potentially drinking snake oil, then that’s your game, but don’t expect others to be complacent like you.

                • ssckelley

                  So because I agree with the FO approach this makes me “complacent”? Theo was completely up front with us fans when he came here on what his approach would be. Spending large amounts of money on guys that you end up paying to play for someone else does not make any sense. You want to trade or sign players who have their best years in front of them, not behind them.

                  I REALLY hate myself for saying this but the Cardinals have built what the FO is trying to accomplish. The Cubs are never going to be the Yankees, nor will they ever be the Dodgers so if you cannot out spend them then building the team from the minors on up is the way to go. I want to see them get to a point where they can get a Carlos Beltran to sign a 26 million 2 year deal since he knows the team has a shot at winning.

                  If you really think that I believe the Cubs are heading the right direction just because of a couple of first round draft picks then I think you are the one who cannot see the whole picture.

                  • Kyle

                    “So because I agree with the FO approach this makes me “complacent”?”

                    Other way around. You aren’t complacent because you agree with the approach. You agree with the approach because you are complacent :)

                    The Cardinals have never and will never say “screw it, winning is too hard, let’s just wait four years.”

                    • ssckelley

                      The Cardinals will also never be a team to over spend in free agency. So how do you get from point A to point B?

                    • Blublud

                      This is the exact reason why I don’t buy that the team is broke. If the Cubs wanted to, they could run the payroll to 150 mil, and the ricketts would not lose money. The FO is choosing this approach and using the “team is broke” to explain it. I also think they want to be overlooked in FA, or in the case of going after Tanaka. I don’t disagree with it, I just don’t believe it all.

                    • Kyle

                      Get there however you want, but if you choose tanking and the Cubs’ route, don’t kid yourself and pretend you are doing it the Cardinals way.

                    • SH

                      The Cardinals finished below .500 in 1995, 1997, and 2007, and only had 53 (53!) wins in 1994. Let’s not discredit the extent to which those periods of sustained failure helped build the team they are today!

                    • Kyle

                      If they had stripped the team bare for draft position in 2007, they probably would have beaten the Red Sox this year. Someone should have told them there’s no point in winning 78 games.

                    • ssckelley

                      I never said that, I said “the Cardinals have built what the FO is trying to accomplish”. So if you have a better way to get from point A to point B then explain it to us.

                    • Kyle

                      I had a better way back in 2011, but it’s too late now.

                      Nothing to do but sit around and hope.

                    • SH

                      The old “any other option needs to be fully elucidated and then we’ll tell you it’s hindsight and/or criticize because you don’t have as much information as our FO.” A sisyphusian task.

                    • ssckelley

                      Kyle, do tell me more how this FO “stripped the team bare”. Are you suggesting the FO should have kept Dempster, Garza, Soriano, and Feldman or resign Ramirez or Carlos Pena? What pieces has the FO traded away that would make a difference in 2014?

                    • DarthHater

                      “I had a better way back in 2011, but it’s too late now.”

                      If only you hadn’t been such a smart-ass in your second interview…

                    • Kyle

                      “Kyle, do tell me more how this FO “stripped the team bare”. Are you suggesting the FO should have kept Dempster, Garza, Soriano, and Feldman or resign Ramirez or Carlos Pena? What pieces has the FO traded away that would make a difference in 2014?”

                      If they’d been doing things right from day one, then yeah, they’d have been in position to keep a couple of those guys.

                    • Kyle

                      “If only you hadn’t been such a smart-ass in your second interview…”

                      I’m not as eloquent as Theo, and it’s a burden I live with forever now. I’m like the guy at the end of Schindler’s List. Sure, I’ve helped so many Cubs fans over the years, but I could have helped so many more.

                    • DarthHater

                      heh

                    • ssckelley

                      So how could they have “been doing things right from day one”? Most of the players I mentioned could have been acquired for 2014.

                    • Kyle

                      “So how could they have “been doing things right from day one”? ”

                      You’ve been around long enough to know the answers to that without me having to retype two-plus years of alternatives.

                    • ssckelley

                      Kyle the moves I have seen you suggest in the past was no guarantee. There are a lot of variables that go into signing a free agent for X amount of money. First of all if you get involved in a player you have to spend more than what the other team is getting. Plus those players have to want to come to Chicago. The moves the Cubs have made, I feel, will lead to sustained success. Where we disagree on is how to get from point A to point B and there is not a magical way of doing it.

                    • SH

                      It seems you subscribe to one magical way to do it — rely on underpaid 19-year olds — that isn’t particularly guaranteed (ahem, Royals).

                    • ssckelley

                      “It seems you subscribe to one magical way to do it — rely on underpaid 19-year olds — that isn’t particularly guaranteed (ahem, Royals).”

                      I think this was directed at me, but no, I think the FO would be stupid to rely on 19 year olds. There are free agent moves to be made, but going out and giving Cano a monster contract is not one of them.

              • CubFan Paul

                “..look around at the successful organizations today they are not built on free agency”

                This is False.

                • ssckelley

                  You have examples of this? Keep in mind the Cubs will never have the payroll of the Yankees or the Dodgers.

                  • CubFan Paul

                    It’s not about “payroll”, it’s about “revenue” and being in the THIRD largest market.

                    The Cubs aren’t broke…

                    • ssckelley

                      I never said they are but right now there is a pretty big gap in revenue being generated between the Dodgers and the Cubs. You honestly think the Cubs can out spend the Dodgers right now?

                    • CubFan Paul

                      “You honestly think the Cubs can out spend the Dodgers right now”

                      Stop changing the subject and arguing with yourself..

                    • hansman

                      That, when you consider it’s a shared city, puts the Cubs in the market of the Braves, Giants and Red Sox.

                    • ssckelley

                      Paul, you are the one flipping the debate on me. I asked you for examples of successful teams built on free agency and your answer was about payroll and revenue.

                    • CubFan Paul

                      The Braves, Giants, and Sawx havn’t been on national TV for decades at a time, making them a lower tier.

                    • CubFan Paul

                      ssckelley: “You have examples of this? Keep in mind the Cubs will never have the payroll of the Yankees or the Dodgers.”

                      To that i said: ‘It’s not about “payroll”, it’s about “revenue”’

                      Me choosing not to answer your question isn’t flipping anything, nor do I need a baseball economics lesson.

                    • Blublud

                      The Cardinals are a team that was built off of free agency. Oh and trades and the farm system.

                      The Red Sox are a team that was built off of free agency. Oh and trades and the farm system.

                      You can’t deny that free agency didn’t play just as big a part for these two WS contenders as trades or prospects.

                    • hansman

                      “The Braves, Giants, and Sawx havn’t been on national TV for decades at a time, making them a lower tier.”

                      The Braves, Giants and Sawx also haven’t been losing tens of millions of dollars a year in broadcasting dollars because of a sweetheart deal with their previous owner.

                      The Braves, Giants and Sawx haven’t had to fight, tooth and nail, to get ANY improvements to their ballpark and their schedules to maximize revenues.

                      But I’ll be damned, I coulda swore I left the goalposts over there.

                    • CubFan Paul

                      If you want to change the subject Hans, we can.

                      But either way, I don’t see how anything u typed changes the fact that the Cubs are in the THIRD largest Market.

                    • bbmoney

                      “The Cardinals are a team that was built off of free agency. Oh and trades and the farm system.

                      The Red Sox are a team that was built off of free agency. Oh and trades and the farm system.”

                      It all depends on what you mean “built off of free agency”. Both of those teams had a lot of homegrown talent on their rosters that played pivotal roles. As Kyle, very correctly points out below, no successful team is built any one way (except for maybe the Rays…..).

                    • Blublud

                      BB Money, that’s was kind of the point.

              • Kyle

                WTF does “built on free agency” even mean?

                Nobody builds a team exclusively on free agency or the draft or anything else. They all blend.

                The Cubs could sign the three biggest free agents of the offseason and still field a team that is 2/3rds homegrown, if they wanted to.

            • Blublud

              For some strange reason, I sorta kinda agree with a small percentage of what you are saying.

              • Blublud

                Directed at Brains

                • Brains

                  yes, because all i’m talking about is where loyalties are deserved. the team. not the FO or ownership. if they build a good team then they deserve our loyalties. not in advance, and definitely not after these two horrific years, primed for the worst year yet.

                  • ssckelley

                    I have no loyalties to the FO or the ownership, and I desperately want to see the Cubs get into the World Series just as you do. You and I just disagree on the correct course to get there.

                    • Blublud

                      Sckelley, your way is to not sign anyone, to trade all the really good prospects and keep the mediocre ones and call them the best in the system. :-D

                    • ssckelley

                      Blu, not sure where you have gotten that from me. I have been pretty adamant about wanting the Cubs to sign a right handed slugger for the outfield and another starter for the rotation.

                    • Blublud

                      The was a smiley there bro. I was just taking a rib shot.

                    • ssckelley

                      Oh ok, sorry…getting defensive, the pile on is getting overwhelming (but fun).

      • bbmoney

        I’d want the Cubs to be all over 6 for 150. At that price I’d be pissed if the Cubs didn’t sign him. And probably 7 for 175 too, but the extra year would lessen my anger to a certain extent. And I’m not a big proponent of going after Cano, but at that price you’d almost have to.

        I think it’s going to be more like 8 for 215-225. Which is more in the range where I wouldn’t be frustrated by the Cubs not getting involved.

        • Brains

          agreed completely, though honestly i don’t see any other hope within a 3 year period for us having a real star in the lineup. even tampa has longoria…

      • Bwa

        That sounds like a hell of a steal to me. Especially considering he wouldn’t block anyone. That would speed the rebuild considerably and give us an awesome lineup if Bryant Baez turn out. And his contract would be up before he turns 40. Too bad he’s gonna get 10 years.

    • Jono

      The difference between Soriano and Ellsbury is that Soriano had more power while Ellsbury relies more on speed (yes, soriano had speed earlier in his career, but none-the-less, he had more power than ellsbury while ellsbury’s game relies more on speed than soriano’s did). Power is more stustainable as a player ages. Will Ellsbury worth that kind of contract if his stolen bases decrease to 15 a year and he is moved to right field? Soriano was already a corner outfielder with enough power to translate into later year production.

      • Brains

        i think this is right on

      • Jono

        Stustainable is better than sustainable, incase anyone was wondering

        And “Will Ellsbury BE worth…..” is how it should read.

  • Die hard

    Glanville is the smartest of the group and very qualified

  • Fishin Phil

    If Theriot is in the booth, he will still manage to pull a TOOTBLAN at least once a week.

    • chrisfchi

      if Theriot is in the booth, i’ll stab my ears with a rusty fork

    • hansman

      And when he tries to throw it over to Pat or Judd, it will dribble it’s way to the TV booth.

    • TWC

      I can’t … I just can’t believe that this list is credible. I mean, maybe it’s credible in the sense that the free agent wish lists/future lineups that folks frequently post are “credible”, as in, “yes, I do believe that is, in fact, a list.” But there’s just no way.

      Don’t Sutcliffe, Glanville, and Hollandsworth (Karros, too?) have cushy mlb.tv or ESPN “weekend” jobs? Why would they want to take a hit and do the day-to-day radio gig?

      And Theriot? THERIOT? Ryan “Right Side Of The Rivalry” Theriot? I’m not sure that I’d pay to hear that next season. And Dave Otto is just … awful. It’s kinda like they took a list of scrappy fan favorites and combined it with a list of former Cubs who have done *something* in the broadcasting world.

      • hansman

        WGN Radio is just trolling the fanbase.

        Bully for them.

  • cubzfan23

    I also would like Sutcliffe. I also would give a big hell no to Theriot (obvious reasons).

  • Jon

    Does anyone actually listen to the Cubs on the radio outside of maybe catching a quick score when on the road? The product on tv is barely watchable as is

    • Edwin

      I stream the radio quite a bit at work and home, since I only get WGN.

    • Spriggs

      “The product on tv is barely watchable as is”

      That is why I listen to Pat Hughes more than ever (even with Moreland). With DVR, it’s easy to sync it up with the TV picture. Boom. No Lenny.

      I think the list of 9 is a very good one. Theriot is an obvious NO, but other than that, I might only have a slight problem with Otto and Masur (no more San Diego guys, OK?).

      Sutcliffe, Karros, Glanville, Hollandsworth, Wood, DeRosa… that’s my order, but I like them all. I can’t see Sutcliffe or Karros taking the job though.

      • Jon

        It’s unwatchable because of the talent, not the broadcasters. Len is awesome

      • On The Farm

        “That is why I listen to Pat Hughes more than ever (even with Moreland). With DVR, it’s easy to sync it up with the TV picture. Boom. No Lenny.”

        Honestly, I think JD is starting to make Len sound good. I just do not like JD commentary.

        • YourResidentJag

          Neither do I.

        • Spriggs

          The two do not work well together. I know it’s only one year – but I blame the lack of chemistry on Lenny. He rarely goes with anything JD says, unless it was something that Lenny started. Lenny is too much about himself and trying to show everyone how smart he is.

          As for the radio, I hope Pat gets some input into who the new hire will be. He deserves that much.

          • TWC

            I was amazed how much dead silence occurred during the TV broadcasts. Not even late in the season, when no one gave a shit, but early on. At first, I thought it was refreshing, as I was used to listening to the radio broadcasts where Moreland wouldn’t shut the hell up; but, as the season went on, it just seemed like they just didn’t have anything to say to one another.

            • Spriggs

              Yeah, it’s like that uncomfortable silence too. You notice how some broadcast teams can entertain a little during blowouts – or if the team just blows. But these guys can’t pull it off.

              I think Lenny changed a little after Bob left. He’s trying hard to be the new alpha male in the booth. I want to punch him sometimes.

              • YourResidentJag

                Thought the same myself.

    • TheRiot2

      It’s a matter of priorities ,TV, do you want your eyes to bleed or Radio,do you want your ear drums too rupture and bleed incessantly ?

    • Funn Dave

      When Santo was alive I listened all the time.

  • Die hard

    TV sound mute and radio on is best way to enjoy game

  • Ken

    Rick Sutcliffe – No
    Kerry Wood – Yes but he wont take it
    Todd Hollandsworth – No
    Mark DeRosa – Yes
    Ryan Theriot – FUCK HIM!
    Eric Karros – Yes
    Doug Glanville – Yes
    Dave Otto – Yes
    Andy Masur – Yes but the Padres will want compensation

    • thissitehasgonenutso

      You must have skipped over the last paragraph. But dropping FBombs means we’re an intelligent species.

      • TWC

        Easy, pal. Step down off that high horse. It’s in this site’s Terms of Use that whenever Ryan Theriot’s name is mentioned someone has to shout “FUCK HIM”.

        • DarthHater

          Okay, I checked the terms of service and there is nothing in there about Ryan Theriot. :-P However, it does say: “You agree, through your use of this service, that you are not offended by adult language.”

  • ssckelley

    Not sure if I would ever listen to the Cubs again on the radio if Theriot got the job.

    • On The Farm

      Why, you got something against the French?

      • cubzfan23

        Because of his idiotic comments when going to the F-tards.

      • ssckelley

        Only the ones that are on the wrong side of the Cubs/Cardinal rivalry.

  • Satch Dobrey

    I vote for Dave Otto hands down.

    • bpaoni

      I second this!

  • On The Farm

    “we had over 800(!) comments yesterday on the site, and I’m reminded that this place is going to be rocking over the next couple months.”

    The traffic is going to pick up now that we know Jed Hoyer reads the site.

  • Satch Dobrey

    And please, No – nobody from that 2003 debacle!!!

  • jay

    How about letting Pat Hughes decide who he wants to work with? Or better yet–just leave Pat by himself in the radio booth. He might be the best play-by-play man I’ve ever heard.

    • CubFan Paul

      “He might be the best play-by-play man I’ve ever heard”

      He is.

      • TheRiot2

        It’s obvious you never head Jack Quinlan and “good kid” Lou Boudreau. The best ever duo IMO and I’m sure decades long Cub fans will agree.

    • TWC

      I’d gladly listen to Pat Hughes read the phone book.

    • Northside Matt

      Apparently you’ve never heard Vin Scully.

  • hansman

    “But what does that have to do with MTV”

    I like it, A LOT.

    • Funn Dave

      Yes that was a good line.

  • ClevelandCubsFan

    “the Cubs were next at 45… the White Sox were at 38%.”

    Think about this a second. If perception is reality–that there are relatively few dual Cubs-Sox fans, this is staggering.

    Let’s suggest that 15% of the people (which I think could be high) affirmed that they like BOTH the Cubs and the White Sox. That means, out of the 4100 surveyed…

    1845 are interested in the Cubs
    1558 are interested in the White Sox
    444 are interested in both

    This would mean that 72% of Chicagoans are have a definite Chicago MLB interest.

    In fact, unless 43% of respondents showed an interest in both the Cubs and the White Sox (unlikely??), there were more “fans” of top tier baseball than top tier football in Chicago.

    Meaning, Chicago would seem to be a baseball town.

    • ssckelley

      I would agree that Chicago is a baseball town. Anytime I meet someone from Chicago the first question out of my mouth is Cubs or Sox, I cannot recall a single time someone did not give me an answer. Even the ones that were not much into sports would give me an answer. Plus I am sure there are a few transplanted fans of other teams living in Chicago.

  • Curt

    Sutcliffe, holly, and wood would be my favs but now way sutcliffe gnna do radio, only ones I really don’t want is theriot go broadcast with the cardinals, and Otto he’s as boring as Moreland .

  • The Logos

    Unlike the managerial search, I think having a former Cub in the booth has its positives and should be on the list of qualifications. I like listening to former Cubs talk about Cubs games in the booth, though I want someone young (GIVE ME WOOD [or Hollandsworth, for that matter, but it doesn’t sound as good]). Honestly, Karros or Glanville would work, also, as both have experience in the media post-career.

    So, my list of qualifications: ex-Cub from the last decade.Kind of tired of listening to old guys call games.

    • terenceman

      This sounds like a plan to me. Karros and Glanville would be my top 2 as well. They could let Pat Hughes do the whole game Vin Scully-style and I’d be ok with that, too.

  • ssckelley

    The most important part of Bryants line yesterday is he broke his streak of games with a strikeout. He has been walking more but he has yet to hit a home run this month.

  • Jono

    I really don’t care much about the guy being a former Cubs player. I just want someone I enjoy listening to. It doesn’t add to my enjoyment knowing that that voice used to be heard in the Cubs clubhouse

  • CUB5

    Theriot – NO.

    Sutcliffe or Wood – YES please!

    I’m surprised Sosa wasn’t mentioned…

  • TheRiot2

    LOL, Sosa and Guillen works if you want a Spanish Network or Fukudome and Sadaharu Oh for a Japanese listening audience after we sign Tanaka.

    • CUB5

      Yes, tongue-in-cheek for sure. :)

  • North Side Irish

    Jason Parks ‏@ProfessorParks 25m
    @2008_nbalottery @zackcar21 Almora could end up being a 5+ CF with a .300 bat and 20+ HR potential. That’s a role 7 player as a ceiling.

    Not bad for Darwin Barney 2.0…

    • ssckelley

      he he

      blu, you’re needed over here! :D

    • Blublud

      I hope I’m wrong but I doubt Almora ever becomes a .300 hitter with 20 HR. You can say Parks knows more then I do, which is probably correct, but Parks is the only scout that high on Almora. Parks says Almora is the Cubs best prospect and a possible top 10 in the game, when every other propsect ranking has him 3rd or worse and closer to 30. Parks is clearly biased towards Almora.

      • Jon

        Bullshit! You don’t hope your wrong! When if you are right, you can come back and toot your own horn :)

        • Fishin Phil

          Last time I tried to toot my own horn, I sprained my back.

          • Jon

            I never had to toot my own horn, until I got married.

        • Blublud

          I really like Almora as a player. I think he is a very good baseball player. I think most people just hear the name and think he is a super star. Parks talk about Almora like he is the next Willie Mays. When it comes to Almora, I don’t listen to anything Parks says about him because we all know he is going to overhype him. If everyone in the game was as high on Almora as Parks is, he would have easily been the #1 pick in his draft.

          • ssckelley

            But Parks is not the only one raving on Almora.

            • Blublud

              No, he is not. But he is the only one who says he is the Cubs top prospect and a top 10 in the game. Please show me one other scout who says that.

              • ssckelley

                Well me, but I am not a scout and that was before Bryant came along. My list is Bryant, Almora, Baez, and Soler in that order. Baez’s strikeouts still scare the hell out of me.

                A big reason why I am so high on Almora is because he is the only prospect that already has at least 1 MLB caliber tool and that is his fielding abilities in center field. His defensive skills alone will get him to the major leagues as long as he stays healthy.

                • ssckelley

                  not caliber, I meant ready

                • Blublud

                  I think Baez is more or has a much better chance of becoming a 5 tool player then Almora. Better power, arm and speed (baserunning also), I would say equal bat(Baez had a high BA at low A also) and he lacks the defense but so does most young, minor league SS. I think long term, he’ll be at least average.

                  • ssckelley

                    I agree, he has a “chance”. He has the tools to be the best of the Cubs prospects. If he can stick at shortstop then that opens up all kinds of possibilities. I could even handle a Rob Deer type production out of the shortstop position. With a 28% SO rate he would only be striking out .4 more times per game than Castro. Tack on 15 more home runs on to Castro’s offensive production this year and I would take that every year at shortstop.

          • cubsfan08

            I’m high on Almora – largely due to his approach to the game and +++ defense. Hope he turns out to be a .300 15-20 HR guy, only time will tell. (side note) Had a chance to purchase an framed autograph pic of him at a golf outing earlier this year but held off…didn’t want it eventually sitting in my crawlspace next to my Brooks Kieshnick baseball card collection, Corey Patterson autographed ball, and my Tommy Harris autographed mini helmet…so he’s got that going for him…which is nice.

            • ssckelley

              You wanna trade your crap for all my Sammy Sosa crap? :D

      • North Side Irish

        I think 12-15 HRs is far more likely, but I do think he could hit .300 most years.

        • Blublud

          I will tell you he has a better chance of matching Barney’s numbers then becoming a .300 hitter with 20 HR. But so does most other prospects. 15 HR is what I’ll give him as a cap. I’m not saying he won’t ever hit 20 in a career year or two (though I doubt it), but he is not a guy I see developing enough power to hit 20 consistently.

          Almora has 1 elite tool. Defense. Two good to decent tools. Arm and bat. And two very mediocre to below average tools. Speed and power. He does seem to have the high IQ that will allow him to maximize all his tools.

          • North Side Irish

            From the BA write up on Almora yesterday…

            “His best tool is his bat, which scouts project as above-average or better. He has a loose swing, present strength and good hand-eye coordination. He uses the whole field, using what one club official calls a “no-ego approach” at the plate. Almora employs a leg kick and has to be on time but has good natural hitting rhythm. He projects to have average or better home run power. Almora is just an average runner, if not a tick below, but he has premium range in center field thanks to his impeccable breaks on the ball, first-step reactions and passion for playing defense. He has a plus, accurate arm as well.”

      • On The Farm

        “You can say Parks knows more then I do, which is probably correct..”

        Blu, if it was only *probably*, you should probably be writing for BP. ;)

        • Blublud

          Its probably. I’m trying to learn not to talk in exacts.

  • mysterious4th

    My day was made with the Sox at the bottom of the Chicago team list. Being from there ive been a life long Cubs, Bulls, Blackhawk fan…..never the bears ough.

  • YourResidentJag

    Gordon Wittenmyer ‏@GDubCub 1h
    Mueller Time for Cubs hitters? Sources say Cubs targeting former batting champ as coach http://bit.ly/1eIs5Fd

  • Scotti

    “There are no surprises on the list outside of Theriot (and DeRosa, who’s actually under contract with the Blue Jays next year)”

    “Breaking News: Blue Jays Infielder Mark DeRosa Is Retiring”

    http://jaysjournal.com/2013/11/12/breaking-news-blue-jays-infielder-mark-derosa-retiring/

    “According to a tweet from Shi Davidi, Blue Jays General Manager Alex Anthopoulos has indicated that the 38-year-old utility infielder has opted to end his playing career and will retire.”

    • Scotti

      Several posters mentioned that Huges should have input…

      “Longtime play-by-play man Pat Hughes will meet Tuesday with WGN-AM President and general manager Jimmy de Castro to provide his input, though the ultimate decision will be made by WGN and Crane Kenney, Cubs president of business operations.”

      http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-11-11/sports/ct-spt-1112-cubs-broadcaster-chicago-20131112_1_chicago-cubs-crane-kenney-pat-hughes

      • Scotti

        “In any case, who do you like from the list of candidates?”

        Kerry Wood–hands down #1. Hands down #1 through #10. Odds are he wouldn’t do it. I’m have a sad.

        Mark DeRosa, Eric Karros and Doug Glanville–all Yes. Good Cubs and bright guys. Glanville broadcasts a little stiff. Karros is actually really good. DeRosa would be a wildcard.

        Rick Sutcliffe, Todd Hollandsworth and Dave Otto–all No. Otto and Hollandsworth are boring and Sutcliffe is all kinds of full of himself (and boring when he isn’t drunk).

        Andy Masur–No, I really do want a former Cub.

        Ryan Theriot–No. Not THAT kind of FORMER Cub. A Cub who feels he is, and always will be, a Cub.

        “When Shawon Dunston Jr. was 10 years old, he watched his father jumping up and down in the living room after Kerry Wood hit a home run early in Game 7 of the 2003 National League Championship Series against Florida.

        “Dad was going crazy,” he said. “I said, ‘Dad, you play for the Giants. Why are you acting so crazy? And he was like, ‘I’ll always be a Cub.’”

        “It’s a special team,” Dunston said. “The Cubs are bigger than the Yankees when they’re on the road. All over the world they have fans. I was always talking about the Cubs, and now they’re drafting my son, and I thought ‘This can’t be real.’

        Dunston made a similar comment when he made his college tuition claim during the sale:

        “Hey, the Cubs don’t owe me anything,” he said with a laugh. “In fact, I missed two years with a back injury and they paid me well. I love the Cubs and I’ll always be a Cub. If anything, I owe them something.”

        I can’t find it but Dunston actually made a similar comment when he signed/played with the Cards.

        Dunston doesn’t seem to be inclined to broadcasting but that is not the point I’m making… Theriot’s comment was unnecessary and it is remembered (same with Grace’s taunting).

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