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nate schierholtz cubsThe Arizona Diamondbacks fancy themselves quite the trading partner this offseason.

“We’re in pretty good shape,” Diamondbacks GM Kevin Towers told Nick Piecoro. “I think we’re kind of an attractive trade partner. Our depth is in the middle of the infield and in center field, and there’s a lot of need at those particular spots, as well. We tend to match up well with most ballclubs.”

Towers told Piecoro he believes the D-Backs match up well with four or five teams this offseason, and discussions have already started with those teams about possible trades. Piecoro immediately speculates – wisely, I’d think – that the Chicago Cubs are among those four or five teams, given the Diamondbacks’ desire to add a starting pitcher, and the presence of Jeff Samardzija. Rumors connecting the Diamondbacks and Cubs on a Jeff Samardzija deal date back to July, and have popped back up again in recent weeks.

Piecoro adds, however, that Samardzija might not be the only Cub interesting Arizona. Given the need for a corner outfield bat, Piecoro wonders if Nate Schierholtz could come up.

Schierholtz would certainly be an attractive trade target for teams, coming of a 107 OPS+ season in which he hit 21 homers in 463 at bats. He’s set to get an increase in arbitration for the 2014 season (he made $2.25 million in 2013), but he’ll be paid well under his market value. Of course, that all makes him equally attractive to the Cubs, who don’t presently have a right fielder available to replace Schierholtz (unless, of course, they’re ready to go with a Lake-Sweeney-Bogusevic outfield, seeking to challenge the Astros for the top pick in 2015).

The Diamondbacks, right now, have four starting-ish outfielders in Adam Eaton, Gerardo Parra, A.J. Pollock, and Cody Ross. The first three are best suited, offensively, to center field, and there’s not much thump to speak of. (Though they do have Tony Campana standing at the ready.) Neither Eaton (24) nor Pollock (25) quite broke through last year as the Diamondbacks had hoped, and it would be interesting to see whether they’d consider moving one of them at a reduced price. From the Cubs’ perspective, given the lack of immediate impact depth at the upper levels of the minors in the outfield, maybe a guy like Eaton is worth taking a chance on.

As for the Diamondbacks’ depth in the middle infield, that probably isn’t of much interest to the Cubs, given that they’ve got a fair bit of depth there, themselves. The D-Backs are well-stocked with young pitching and pitching prospects, though, so that’s where your eye would wander while putting together a hypothetical deal. There are the elite arms like Archie Bradley and Tyler Skaggs, but also decent arms like David Holmberg, Zeke Spruill, Andrew Chafin, and more.

While I’m not sold on the Cubs dealing either Samardzija or Schierholtz this offseason (especially when the Cubs could keep them, take an organizational temperature in June, and then deal them – if necessary – in July), a package of the two could probably bring a substantial return.

  • FullCountTommy

    Welcome to Chicago Archie Bradley???

    • Bilbo161

      Sounds good to me. Not sure I want to deal with the Diamondbacks if Bradley is not in the deal.

      • FullCountTommy

        A package built around Skaggs interests me too…Maybe if they won’t trade Bradley, some sort of combo of Skaggs and Corbin. Matt Davidson also intrigues me

  • Patrick W.

    Man, this is just another example of how Ricketts sux and the cubs won’t win until 3055.

    • Chad

      1. This is a rumor, I guess rumors make people suck.

      2. If throwing in Schierholtz with Samardzija helps land Bradley and Skaggs consider me excited. Cubs need pitching depth. Schierholtz is a fine player but not a key piece to success in 2015 and beyond. He is not going to make or break the 2014 campaign for sure. Shoot maybe if they trade Schierholtz in a deal with Samardzija they decide to sign one of everybody’s coveted FAs (Choo or Ellsbury). I hope not but would that make you worship at Rickett’s feet?

      • Patrick W.

        Yeah, I was just stirring up trouble. 1: this rumor has nothing to do with Ricketts and B) There will be no baseball in 3055. There’s just been a lot of off topic ad hominem posts today and I wanted the first one on this post.

        • hansman

          Man, this is just another example of how Patrick sux and the cubs won’t win until 3055.

        • http://www.bleachernation.com salesguy

          If the D-backs are foolish to offer up Bradley and Skaggs (or a comparable upside starter to Skaggs) for Jeff, Nate, and a yet unknown minor leaguer outside of the big 5, make that trade TODAY, we can find another RF’er.

          • Frank

            How about Bryant in RF? He played there in his Junior year at San Diego. I don’t know if he’ll stick at 3B being 6.5.

            • YourResidentJag

              Or if they can figure out his medical issues–Olt?

        • Frank

          I believe they’ll be playing cosmic ball by then.

    • Funn Dave

      How’s that exactly?

    • SH

      lol yea bro chest bump!

  • itzscott

    Do it

  • Funn Dave

    Let’s trade them both for Tony C.

    • mjhurdle

      i agree. No deal with the DBacks unless Big C is returning to Chicago.

      TRADE FOR ALL THE BELLY FIRE!!!

  • Nate

    If you get one of those outfielders I would take Parra and only him. Would give us a lead off hitter with a career .330 OBP and good defense. Gotta give to get. Samardzija and Nate for Bradley, Parra, and another pitching prospect I’d be ok with.

    • CubFan Paul

      “I would take Parra”

      He’s going into his second year of arbitration. No point in Parra unless you think he’s a long term piece, like Martin Prado going to the DBacks…

  • MightyBear

    I would seriously consider trading a package of the Shark and Schierholtz for young talent. Neither looks like they are in the long term plan, both are very valuable players for an organization looking to contend now and the return for both could be very valuable in the long run.

    • jt

      +1

      • SH

        +2

    • Jono

      +4. That’s right. I double agree.

  • CubFan Paul

    Schierholtz’s 2nd half: .230/268/.435

    If someone sees gold in the poop, let’em half it.

    • CubFan Paul

      Schierholtz’s 2nd half: .230/268/.435

      If someone sees gold in the poop, let’em have it.

      • MightyBear

        He was pretty banged up in the 2nd half.

        • ETS

          well and small sample size. July and Sept were his lowest BABIP months of the season.

          • CubFan Paul

            His whole career is a small sample size because he’s a 4th Outfielder, no?

            • jt

              Seems more like a long side platoon guy

              • CubFan Paul

                “I’m not gay but the guy I sleep with is..”

                (sarcasm font)

                • Cheese Chad

                  “Gold, Jerry! Gold!”

        • CubFan Paul

          “banged up” enough to still play. Everyone is banged up in the second half (not have).

    • Professor Snarks

      Plus Schierholtz’s home run rate was significantly better than his career mark. Unsustainable?

      Brett says a Lake/Sweeney/ Bogusevic outfield will challenge the Astro’s for first pick. Well, I’m not too sure a Lake/Sweeney/Schierholtz outfield will be much better. I’m afraid we might have seen the best Nate has to offer.

  • jh03

    Hold on guys.. there’s a major snag in this Shark to the Diamondbacks deal… Is he willing to retaliate and hit other players?

    Better question: Does Bradley? If he doesn’t, the Cubs can use that as negotiating power :)

  • macpete22

    Samardzija, Schierholtz and maybe throw in a prospect or 2 for Bradley/Skaggs and Eaton? Could be interesting

    • AaronS

      And then you woke up. Unless that prospect is Baez.

      • macpete22

        I meant one of Bradley or Skaggs, not both. I’d even take Patrick Corbin

        • MightyBear

          We’re not getting Corbin.

          • Voice of Reason

            We might be able to get Tyrone Corbin as part of the deal?
            He has one hell of a turn around jump shot! At least he did in the 80’s.

            • rich

              I don’t understand how. He was so cross-eyed!

  • jayrig5

    I like Nate, but the DBacks are a nice organization to trade with, for a couple of reasons.

    1. Good young talent, especially starting pitching.

    2. An organizational philosophy that is seemingly inclined to acquire “gritty” players, as opposed to “talented” players.

    Something I have to mention, though: if the Cubs trade Nate, that’s a big blow to the Cubs Wives depth.

    • Funn Dave

      Why would you prefer gritty over talented?

  • TulaneCubs

    If the DBacks would really give up Adam Eaton for 1 year of Nate Schierholtz, I do that trade in a second. Eaton is a perfect buy low candidate. Gets on base a ton, has great speed and can play center field. I’d do backflips if they could get Eaton for Schierholtz, but my guess is the Cubs would have to throw another piece in to make it work.

    • college_of_coaches

      My thoughts as well. Eaton is 24 and his minor league career slash line in 1300 ABs is .348/.450/.501 (with some of his best numbers coming at AAA).

  • CubFan Paul

    In any deal for Samardzija I’d want at least 3 pitchers (4 star or better) in return.

  • Big Daddy

    We already lost Kim Dejesus. I can’t take many more losses like that.

    • Rich

      Big daddy…a google image search is always at your disposal

      • hansman

        IT is extra special when you can have a quasi-connection to that picture of an attractive woman.

    • Frank

      Big Daddy, Kim is sunbathing in the nude right now outside of Tampa. I’d give you the live cam feed address but I’m mean. (or lying)

      • On The Farm

        Lying, I saw on her twitter account she is in LA.

    • YourResidentJag

      Yes but if you get CSNChicago, you now get to see Kelly Crull. She’s not bad.

  • Blublud

    Im not great at this but could we go Shark, Schierholtz and a 6-10 from our system (Alcantara maybe) for Bradley, Skaggs, Parra and another player. Might as well maximize the return with one of our prospects and get both the top pitchers.

    • Chad

      I don’t know. I would hope they could get away without doing that.

    • Jono

      dbacks are pretty deep with middle infielders. Alcantara might have more value to the Cubs if either Bryant goes to the OF or they trade Castro. He might be the Cubs’ best potential leadoff hitter. Plus he’s either a switch hitter or a lefty (I want to say switch). That might end up being really important to the Cubs.

      • Scotti

        If the Backs offered Skaggs AND Bradley then Theo would get whiplash offering Alcantara in that deal. Alcantara might hit enough to leadoff. He also might not hit enough to play regularly.

        That TYPE of deal has a chance to work but only getting one of Bradley or Skaggs back. Bradley and Skaggs are two of the best pitching prospects in all of baseball.

    • TulaneCubs

      Not sure, but I’d rather have Eaton than Parra. Parra is a free agent after 2015, so we’d only get 2 years of control of him. He also has some crazy defensive metrics that seem to be inflating his WAR (somehow, his dWAR went from a little under 1 in 3 straight seasons to 4. Seems like an outlier.).

      • CubFan Paul

        “He also has some crazy defensive metrics…(Seems like an outlier.)”

        No, he’s just really good defensively.

        • TulaneCubs

          He might be really good defensively, but this seems like a pretty massive uptick in dWAR in 1 year, given his prior levels. Even accounting for the fact that he got more PT, it seems unlikely that Parra had that big of an uptick in defensive abilities in 1 year.

          • CubFan Paul

            “seems unlikely that Parra had that big of an uptick in defensive abilities in 1 year”

            Watch him play defense for a bit. Guys improving defensively all the time. He passes the eye-test as a stud defender and even won another Gold Glove

            • Norm

              Plus he moved to RF full time instead of LF and had 17 assists.

    • Norm

      No, you aren’t getting Bradley, and you definitely are not getting Bradley AND Skaggs.

      • Blublud

        There is no deal without Bradley. The question is can we get Bradley and Skaggs instead of just Bradley. I would keep Shark with Bradley included.

      • Chef Brian

        Whats up KT! You surf Bleacher Nation under the Screen Name, Norm? Go figure…

      • richdanna

        Tell em, Booze…

  • Chad

    no good spot for this, but Atlanta to tear down the Ted. Wish the cubs would force the city/roof top owners hand and just move

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9965245/turner-field-demolished-atlanta-braves-leave-new-stadium-2017-mayor-says

  • Jono

    Just looked on mlb.com. Dbacks have a ton of quality pitching. I really think that the Cubs should / will be interested in a lefty bat, maybe a guy to hit around 6th. The only left bats I saw in the Dbacks top 20 were a couple catchers. The higher ranking guy was a young kid drafted out of high school in 2012. The other guy is 21, I think. Maybe there’s a match there?

    • Jono

      I’d be curious what better baseball-minds thought about those two catchers.

      Samardzija + Nate = Bradley + one of those catchers and maybe + a lesser top 10 pitcher?

      • Kyle

        We have roughly as much chance of getting Bradley as we did of getting Profar in a Garza trade last year. He’s off the table.

        • Jono

          you wrote something that I don’t want to be true. So I’m taking a defense stance and am arguing with you for no reason.

          • Jono

            *defensive stance

        • Blublud

          Boy am I glad they didn’t get Profar.

          • bbmoney

            Why because he wasn’t amazing in his age 20 season?

            I’d take him over any of the prospects we got in the Garza trade; I’d trade all the prospects we got in the Garza trade back for him right now.

            • Blublud

              I mean considering what even our own Starlin Castro did in his age 20 season, that’s not a great excuse.

              • bbmoney

                I have no idea why people think comparisons like this are relevant.

                • Blublud

                  Because stud prospects perform at there age 20 season quite often. There are at least a hand full a year. I’m not saying it matters either way, just that its not an excuse.

                  BTW, I felt this way about Profar before got called up and predicted he would struggle because they were moving him to fast.

            • mjhurdle

              Given the Cubs need for pitching depth, and the abundance of MI in the system already, im not sure that I would trade them back for Profar, but it would be pretty close.

          • YourResidentJag

            Ummmm…dumb.

            • Blublud

              Uh. I doubt it. But time will tell.

              • YourResidentJag

                Uh…how?

                • Blublud

                  I think Profar is a good defensive, lite hitting SS. We have a ton of those guys ourselves. Show me anything he did offensively in the minors that proves otherwise.

                  • Norm

                    We can’t explain the idea of “projection” to you. But if you look at Hanley Ramirez’s minor league numbers and compare them to Profar’s. you’ll see that Profar was MORE productive and a year younger at the same level.

                    • Blublud

                      And I keep telling you guys that for every player that reaches those projections, there is 10 that doesn’t. If you think or expect Profar to be Hanley Ramirez, then I’m signing you up for NA. Is there a chance. Sure. A very tiny one.

                    • Blublud

                      Basicly, I would not trade Albert Almora for Profar, even right now. Almora will be a much better ball player.

                    • Norm

                      “And I keep telling you guys that for every player that reaches those projections, there is 10 that doesn’t.”

                      Yeah, no kidding. Same comment goes for Javier Baez too.
                      When you’re good enough to be 19 years old, in AA, and put up well above average numbers, that’s kind of good.
                      But when you base your future outlook of a 19 year old AA hitter and you conclude that he’s a light hitter because he *only* has 14 homers, that’s a terrible way to come to your conclusion.

                    • Blublud

                      Maybe I should have said bad hitter. I think he’ll hit a few HR while hitting .250/.310 in the process. A decent SS but not a guy I would have ranked as the best prospect in all of

                  • bbmoney

                    So basically you think Profar is as good right now as he ever will be?

                    I think the odds of that are slim. Certainly possible. But slim.

  • Steve

    Rumor: Tulowitzski to St. Louis for young Cardinal pitching propects.

    • On The Farm

      I think the Cardinals are going to be connected to a lot of SS this offseason..

    • Jono

      If the FO goes after lower level (“young” leads me to think lower level) instead of higher level talent, that might indicate that they don’t expect to be legit playoff contenders in 2015

      Lots of ifs there, so I may be way off. That was just my initial reaction

  • Diamond Don

    I would trade Schierholz and Smaj for Bradley and Skaggs in a heart beat. This would be a great trade for both teams.

  • Die hard

    Drop the gun and grab the cannoli

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      Fix your verbs.

      • CubFan Paul

        He’s having a stroke, leave him alone.

      • DarthHater

        Also, fix your nouns, pronouns, adjectives, adverbs, prepositions, conjunctions, interjections, and, above all, your underlying ideas.

  • cubsin

    Let’s not trade Samardzija until we find out what the Nationals and any other interested teams might offer. A good old-fashioned bidding war would be wonderful for the Cubs.

    • YourResidentJag

      Or the Jays and Royals???

  • SenorGato

    I would be pretty surprised if Schierholtz is a Cub in 2014.

  • Voice of Reason

    What about Edwin Jackson? What would he bring in a trade? Knowing the above average performance year he had he should certainly bring quality in return!

    • aaronb

      My guess is less than what Ian Kennedy brought back last summer.

  • http://www.justinjabs.com/blog/ justinjabs

    I literally forgot Schierholtz was a Cub. Haven’t heard about him in a long while.

  • Jono

    The A’s might be shopping Anderson. He has one more year on his contract with a club option for 2015

    • mlbfan

      Yes that injury riddled player fits right up Theoyer’s alley….

      • Jono

        Anything / anyone is worth it at the right price.

  • Jono

    Blue jays looking for a starting pitcher and 2b. They have lots of pitching prospects. I hope they’d start with Sanchez. The jays don’t seem to have the kind of lefty bat id be hoping the cubs get (davis seems like a speedy, leadoff, centerfielder)

  • mlbfan

    The Cubs are not getting Bradley. People need to lay off the rah rah kool-aid….

  • dAn

    “Of course, that all makes him equally attractive to the Cubs, who don’t presently have a right fielder available to replace Schierholtz (unless, of course, they’re ready to go with a Lake-Sweeney-Bogusevic outfield, seeking to challenge the Astros for the top pick in 2015).”

    The Cubs don’t need Schierholtz, Bogusevic AND Sweeney. They are all of more or less equal value and having all three is redundant. Sweeney probably has the most value, because he can play a passable CF. Schierholtz is 29 and doesn’t really have much of a track record of success, even though he had a good first half in ’13. Of the three, none are anything close to a lock to be productive offensively in 2014. You can make an argument for any of them, but there’s just as good a chance that any one (or more of them fall apart next year).

    Honestly, I don’t see any difference between having Schierholtz out there, versus Bogusevic.

    If it were me calling the shots, I would tell Junior Lake to work on his CF defense during winter ball and I’d try to sign Choo to play LF if at all possible. Then I would platoon one of either Schierholtz or Bogusevic in RF with Vitters, if Vitters shows anything in ST. And I’d use Sweeney as a 4th OFer and back up plan for Lake. If I couldn’t sign Choo, I’d start Sweeney in CF and shift Lake over to RF and the right fielders over to LF (Lake has a better arm than anybody).

    • mlbfan

      I’m glad you aren’t the Cubs GM….if if if if if if if if

  • YourResidentJag

    Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 14m
    Archie Bradley will come to spring training with chance to make #DBacks rotation, Kevin Towers said. KT says Bradley can throw 170 IP+.

  • Bwa

    I would consider Bradley Skaggs and eaton for shark and schierholtz.

    • mlbfan

      You can keep dreaming. LOL

  • trust me

    A three team dealing with the angels, mets and cubs is just waiting to happen. You take that to the bank.

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