oakland a's logoIf you’d had your hopes set on Brett Anderson as a buy-low, upside play for the Cubs …

Ken Rosenthal reports that the Rockies and A’s have come together on a trade that will send 25-year-old lefty Brett Anderson to the Rockies for fellow 25-year-old lefty Drew Pomeranz and pitching prospect Chris Jensen. Clearly the A’s think they can “fix” whatever woes Pomeranz has had in the last couple of years (giving up fewer homers and walking fewer batters would be a start), because Jensen is a 23-year-old in High-A and Pomeranz has really struggled in his time in the big leagues. Obviously Anderson comes with the huge injury issues, but this is a nice move for the Rockies.

For the A’s, I guess it’s not that bad, given that Anderson is owed $8 million next year, plus a $1.5 million buyout on a 2015 option ($12 million). Getting a cheap flyer in Pomeranz and a non-zero prospect in Jensen is decent.

With Anderson off of the market, I wonder if some of the budget-conscious teams that were looking for pitching with upside turn back to the Cubs and Samardzija. The Blue Jays, for example, had been rumored fans of Anderson for a while.

Outside of that, there isn’t much impact here for the Cubs, who likely didn’t have any overlap with the Rockies’ pitching pursuits (other than Anderson, to whom the Cubs hadn’t been directly connected).

The deals are happening, though …

  • Nick

    Let’s go Theo! Everyone else is making moves

    • Brother Tim

      Theo and Jed were just spotted at Downtown Disney picking out matching Mickey sweatshirts. They blew off the Winter Meetings. Figured they could round out their dumpster diving when they get back home.

      • Carew

        For a Brother, you are very negative

  • Jon

    The thought of giving up a prospect as high as Alcantera was always insane.

    • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

      Good Lord, is that what people were suggesting?

      • Kyle

        Being willing to take on Anderson’s salary seemed like it should be most of the compensation.

        • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

          Yeah. I didn’t realize what kind of suggestions were floating out there, and added a section to the post to underscore that the money was a huge part of this deal.

          • Chad

            Yeah some were really over-valuing Anderson and his injury history. What is the equivalent on the cub’s system. What would it have taken from the cubs farm to get Anderson?

  • Rebuilding

    This is the first move of the entire offseason where I don’t understand why we wouldn’t be all over it. Unless Jed and Theo know something about Anderson’s medicals, I think we could beat this deal with about 10 combinations of our non-elite prospects

    • JB88

      Unless of course one of the considerations for the A’s was taking back a young lefty. Perhaps they weren’t high on Chris Rusin …

      • http://thenewenthusiast.com dw8

        One of the downfalls of not having any controllable pitching assets at or very near the MLB level, methinks.

      • Rebuilding

        Far be it from me to question Billy Beane, but I would find it incredibly stupid if left or right handedness meant more than results or potential when he makes a trade for this kind of player. Maybe they see something with Pomeranz on tape that they think they can fix

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  • Die hard

    If Cubs added a 1 yr club option at 20 mil to Sharks contract wouldn’t this be fair to both sides?

    • David

      I agree… Let’s get this done. Shark is 28 yrs old, but has s 27 year old arm, right?? He hasn’t been pitching that long, right??? So what if we “waste his talents” in 2014 & possibly 2015. He’ll pitch in significant games In 2016, 17 & 18 while still being pretty much in his prime. Let’s sign him for 6 years and move on.

  • Hutch

    Trade shark and alcantara for Bradley and owings would be cool

    • Patrick G

      As much as I would love that, Bradley is 99.9% staying in AZ

      • CubFan Paul

        According to who? The GM (during rumor season)?

        • Patrick G

          According to almost all insiders? Same with many saying Walker for Price is not ideal for Seattle. Obviously I would love Bradley for the Cubs, but seems unlikely

          • CubFan Paul

            “According to almost all insiders (who all quoted the Arizona GM during rumor season”

            You need a grain of salt or two.

            • ari gold

              If Bradley was available, he’d already be on the Cubs.

  • CeeDeeVee

    I posted this in the previous thread right before Brett posted this :

    How bout Cingrani and 3 other prospects? Arroyo might resign with the Reds. I’m just not sure how good the Reds’ system is

    • Patrick G

      For Shark? Don’t think Cubs want to face him in as many games the Cubs play the reds

      • CeeDeeVee

        Yea you’re right. I just figured hey they matched up pretty good before. Shark wpuld throw 3 shutouts and 1 no hitter.

  • Senor Cub

    Jensen is a High A pitcher, did I miss something. How does that make you better in 2014. This FO has enough pet projects already. I guess this board is becoming fans of making a trade for the sake of making a trade. Stick to the plan and keep your eyes on the ball. None of the moves that have been made by other teams suggest the Cubs won’t pull off a great trade or FA/Japan signing still.

  • Jon

    We could have got this guy for Szur or some other worthless prospect. I only hope the Cubs passed because this guy hasn’t done a thing in three years and not because of the $$$$

    • Chad

      I know there were big concerns on his medicals, even from the Rockies. But I was hoping the cubs would take a flier on him. Oh well I guess.

  • Patrick G

    With Eaton on the southsiders, would the Cubs have any interest in De Aza? Heard he could be shopped now and seems like a better CF option than we have now

    • Patrick G

      Or even Viciedo in RF

  • dsgn1

    Not sure this was posted before, but???
    Adam Kilgore of the Washington Post (Twitter links) hears from a source that the Nats would listen to offers on Storen, though any talks with the Cubs are in the very early stages at this point. Kilgore identifies Nate Schierholtz and James Russell as a couple possible fits for Washington if negotiations became more serious.

  • Barry

    I wonder if Theo’s hands are sore from sitting on them for two days. Boring, boring boring…

    • RD

      Theo’s main objective at these Winter Meetings should be to entertain you.

      • YourResidentJag

        Maybe he can play a Pearl Jam song for Barry. 😉

      • C. Steadman

        i hope a Cubs deal gets done soon so these people can stop whining…just because the Cubs arent doing anything right now doesnt mean squat…its day one of the Winter Meetings, besides Cubs supposedly #1 target isnt even available yet, Tanaka, so i’m guessing some of our FA moves could be dictated at how much $$ is spent on him if we are lucky to land him

        • C. Steadman

          day 2 i mean..forgot its Tue today not Mon…still not halfway thru the offseason yet, its not like the tradedeadline is thursday when the meetings are over…

    • ari gold

      Yeah remember back in December, 2006, when we signed a bunch of free agents to something like $250M combined and then they led us to zero playoff wins. good times.

      • aaronb

        3 consecutive winning seasons, 2 playoff appearances and the best record in the league one year. Those were truly some dark dark times in Cubs history.

        • ari gold

          so your goal is to not win playoff games? Kind of the opposite of what we are trying to accomplish.

          • aaronb

            Who said anything about it being a goal? Do the successes of those seasons not count because we failed in the playoffs?

            Did you enjoy those seasons more than the perennial 100 loss challengers that we’ve seen since?

            • MichiganGoat

              I’d rather suffer for a few seasons and have team that is built to win for multiple years than an offseason of overpaying so we can reach the playoffs for two years then go back to losing. But I’m just a homer that doesn’t care about the team.

              • Jon

                When did tanking become a pre-equisite to building a strong farm system ?

              • Kyle

                False choice

              • Jason P

                I agree. The amount of money it would take to make this current Cubs team into a winner next year would restrict the Cubs financially for about the next 5 years.

          • Kyle

            Can’t control playoff crapshoot. Can only put the best possible team on the field, and 2007-2008 Cubs did just that.

  • Cheryl

    Maybe instead of the regularsaying regardung the team’s performance of “wait until next year,” we should keep that in mind for any trades.

  • Edward

    Remember when the payroll was like $150MM? I’m sure Theo is thinking the same thing. I understand the need for a rebuild, but shouldn’t we be, like, getting better at this point? Sign that Japanese kid and Garza. Extend Shark. Hope the big four (five?) come as advertised. Win in 2015.

    • CubFan Paul

      “shouldn’t we be, like, getting better at this point?”

      The goalposts have been move back to 2016 apparently.

      • YourResidentJag

        or 2017?

        • aaronb

          It’s all part of a master plan.

      • C. Steadman

        we should sign Matt Prater then…he can kick it that far

    • gocatsgo2003

      Remember how short-lived the success of the team was with that kind of payroll and how some of those contracts turned into giant albatrosses in their final years? The $146MM Cubs in 2010 went 75-87 while the $135MM 2009 version went 83-78. By contrast, the 2003 version cost $80MM (just north of half of the Yankees’ payroll that year).

      There are obviously many ways to build a team, but short-term spending is hardly ever a precursor to long-term success.

      • CubFan Paul

        The $146M Cubs in 2010 went 75-87 by design.

      • Jon

        Who’s contract was an albatross?

        • C. Steadman

          im guessing he’s referencing Soriano…I personally was a huge Soriano fan, but alot of people complained about that contract

          • Edwin

            It was a bad contract. I liked him as a player, and he wasn’t worthless, but he clearly was way overpaid.

            • Jon

              Up until last year, Soriano statically produced close to value of his deal. It certainly wasn’t an albatross. Another urban legend some fans like to project

      • Kyle

        Short-term spending doesn’t preclude long-term success, either, though.

        They are independent of each other. Parallel fronts, one might say.

        • Jason P

          As long as short term spending isn’t on long term contracts.

  • dan

    Enough with ALcantra he is the next Sandberg we can not trade him

  • Drew

    It’s surprising to see how far Pomeranz has fallen considering he was the centerpiece of the Jimenez trade a few years ago right? I would trust the A’s getting something out of this more than the Rockies in this deal. Beane is far and away the best GM in the league (yes I have heard of the fellow in Tampa Bay) but Beane has been at this for a decade longer and has proven himself over and over. I see the A’s winning this deal outright…

  • Cheryl

    Do the GMs leave tomorrow or Thursday?

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  • Cubsluver22

    I understand we have a plan. With that being said the FA market after this season is thin. Just seems to me at some point were gonna finally have a pocket full of money to spend without anyone to spend it on.

  • Blackhawks1963

    Drew Pomeranz = Mark Prior version 2.0

    I guess he’s worth a shot in Oakland after finding a taker for Anderson’s salary, but jeesh. This guy’s star has fallen mightily. Reclamation project deluxe !

  • jj

    The reason the Cubs won’t extend Samardzija is the same reason teams are reluctant to trade prospects like Bradley – Samardzija will be 29 in January and has not met his “potential”. Samardzija wants to be paid for what he believes he will be (an ace) and the Cubs want value in trade as if he is an ace, but for extension and trade the other side has to view Samardzija with the possibility he will be a 4ERA pitcher who does not meet his potential.

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