Chicago Cubs Reportedly Sign Pitcher Tsuyoshi Wada to a Minor League Deal

tsuyoshi wada oriolesAt the outset of posts like this, I frequently reference a previous post where I mentioned the player that is the subject of the present post. I do that not so much to pat myself on the back for having incredible and handsome foresight, but instead because I’ve often dug into concepts previously that I want to make sure to reference this time.

So it is with free agent pitcher Tsuyoshi Wada, whom the Cubs have signed to a minor league deal with an invitation to Spring Training, per Sponichi (and Google Translate). When the Baltimore Orioles declined his option back in October, I wrote this:

Early possibility (among many) for a pitching flyer via a minor league deal? How about lefty Tsuyoshi Wada, who came over from Japan before the 2012 season to some fanfare (some … not a lot), only to promptly undergo Tommy John surgery? He spent the 2012 season rehabbing, and then the 2013 season working out his arm at AAA. The Orioles just declined a $5 million option on him, making him a free agent. He’ll be 33 next year, so there are some years in the tank. Just a flyer type here, but maybe something worth keeping an eye one.

It *was* something worth keeping an eye on!

That quoted bit sums up much of what there is to say on Wada. He pitched sufficiently well in his years in Japan that, when he became a free agent, the Orioles gave him to a two-year, $8.15 million contract. While not the kind of deal you’re going to see Masahiro Tanaka get, that’s a healthy sum for a second tier starter from Japan, making his stateside debut.

In other words, before coming to the States and immediately requiring Tommy John surgery, Wada was well thought of. Getting him in on a minor league deal and a chance to see if he’s full recovered from the surgery is a very nice get. He threw a hair over 100 innings at AAA last year, posting a modest 4.03 ERA, 3.1 BB/9 and 7.0 K/9.

When it comes to that 7th/8th/9th starter range, this is the kind of guy you want to see in the mix: theoretically steady, might not kill you if he gets the call, and a little bit of upside.

Brett Taylor is the editor and lead writer at Bleacher Nation, and can also be found as Bleacher Nation on Twitter and on Facebook.

237 responses to “Chicago Cubs Reportedly Sign Pitcher Tsuyoshi Wada to a Minor League Deal”

  1. Bret Epic

    I’d rather take a risk on him than Justin Germano again.

    1. Bret Epic

      Oh and Alex Castellanos was designated. Think the Cubs have any interest?

    2. Luke

      I’m not sure this is an either/or situation. I don’t think signing Wada would block them from signing Germano.

      1. Bret Epic

        I was just saying as far as comparing the two as far as risk/reward. Makes more sense to me to go after someone like this and keep them waiting in the wings. I like the signing.

  2. willis

    A Japanese pitcher who promptly went through TJS after getting the US…hmmm, sounds familiar.

    1. Assman22

      Wasn’t even hitting 90 mph before TJ…its a minor league deal…ceiling is likely LOOGY/poor man’s version of Uehara…

  3. Jon

    This is their budget Tanaka

  4. ClevelandCubsFan

    This is a brilliant move (I suspect) that I’ve been wanting the Cubs to make for a long time: Stock up on Japanese players when you can so that Chicago feels like a welcoming environment for the next big thing when it’s time to do some wooing.

    Now we’ve got two other guys on the team: Wada and Fujikawa. Knowing there will be two guys (though injured) that can help you make the transition to the States might not be a bad selling point for a guy named Tanaka.

    1. MNeuman

      Great minds think alike….some just type faster than others!

    2. Diamondrock

      I really dig this idea. I think the history that comes with the Cubs is already appealing to a lot of Japanese players (it was to Fujikawa) and Chicago is already a very Japanese friendly city. I’d love to see Wrigley become *the* destination for Japanese baseball fans in the United States.


  5. MNeuman

    I know this is mentioned a lot and probably has little bearing on decisions but…..could signing Wada and Fujikawa help to entice Tanaka if there were a bidding war? If dollars and years are close wouldn’t you want to be on a team that has shown support for players you played with and against in your home league?

  6. DarthHater

    Bert must be sleeping . . .

    1. DarthHater

      Nope, there he is! :-D

  7. X The Cubs Fan

    These signings are obviously for depth and to fill out the minors most of these guys won’t even see in the majors.

  8. BlameHendry


    1. hansman

      Hahaha ha ha ha ha ha

      Man, if that was funny the first 10, 000, 000 times, it was this time.

      1. jh03

        Wada you talking about, that was hilarious!

        I’ll show myself out.

        1. DarthHater

          Ryu kidding me?

          1. jh03

            Yu got a problem?

            1. DarthHater

              Please, Nomo, Nomo!

              1. jh03

                Way to ruin the fun… You Suk.

                1. DarthHater


                  1. Spriggs


                    1. Cerambam

                      Is this reddit!?

                    2. Cheese Chad

                      Fukudome. . . . There is no real joke there I just wanted in on the fun.

                2. scorecardpaul

                  This, yes this kind of stuff is what makes this site awsome. Thanks guys for the fun. There has been way to much negative lately

        2. TK

          So you assclowns knock the guy that cracks a joke about a championship, then show your asses ridiculing Japanese and Korean names like a bunch of ugly racist shit heads. Stay classy Chicago!

          No really, keep it going. Lets hear all the insulting cracks you can make that are racially motivated. I chink you can, I chink you can. Ha ha ha ha ha ha lolx10 . . . Aint I funny.

          F-in morons.

          1. hansman

            So, using last names that sound like something else is equivelant to using a racial epithet?

            1. Jon

              Saying “You Suk” or other Asian surnames to make silly phrases is toeing the line of racist and innaproriate

              1. Patrick W.

                Yeah You Suk was a little racist. The puns on actual names are not. I know it’s a weird distinction but there it is. Ryu, Nomo, Ha, Yu, Wada – all fine, because there are actual people with those names but generally making fun of the sounds of Asian names is wrong.

                1. noisesquared

                  From MLBTR:

                  Suk-min Yoon is a 27-year-old right-handed pitcher who intends to jump from the Korea Baseball Organization to MLB this offseason.

                  1. Patrick W.

                    Yep. You got me there. That Korean pitcher obviously is the reference there because he is as top of mind as the subject of this post, the first Korean to get to MLB through a posting system (which brought his team $25MM for the 4th place ROY), the 1995 ROY who once signed with the team which is the subject of this blog, the all time HR leader in Japan, and a player who plays for the team that is the subject of this blog. I am 100% convinced it wasn’t a lazy vaguely racist attempt at humor.

                2. jh03

                  I wasn’t trying to be racist, guys. I’m sorry if I toed the line or even crossed it. My apologies.

                  1. Patrick W.

                    I wasn’t trying to imply you were. I was just saying it’s a *little* racist. That doesn’t mean you are even a *little* racist. :)

                    1. jh03

                      I understand your point. I feel bad though, because I wasn’t trying to *just* use Asian names. If I could have used my own name as a joke I would have. It had nothing to do with ethnicity, I was just using any names I could think of that would fit into the pun. I apologize.

          2. Professional High A

            Is it racist if you make silly puns with every race. Every year in my fantasy baseball league the team names are based are player puns. Some of my favorite- Cano one Strop me, Byrne the their Fields, Chen music, and my favorite (because he was my player) Barney the 2nd base dinosaur. It’s not intended to be racist it’s intended to be a harmless funny.

            1. Patrick W.

              To be clear: making a pun off a real person’s name is not racist because “ha ha his name sounds like this other word”

              Making a pun based on made up names is a little racist because “ha ha those people have all funny sounding names”

              Don’t Choo think the Cubs need an outfielder? Funny.

              Sum Ting Wong. Little racist.

            2. RKStu

              Any examples of these “funny” names?

          3. Professional High A

            A similar thread happened to this one using Appel and some other draftees from this summer. Don’t think it’s a racist thing. I remember because I literally laughed out loud and my wife didn’t get the puns. But rest assured they were funny

  9. 70'scub

    Nice pickup, decent upside, low cost and can be flipped.

    1. commander bob


      Good one. LOL!!!!

  10. Lou Brock

    Actually the stats show Wada was pitching quite well as the season ended at AAA Norfolk. ERA under 2.00 over last 7 starts. Also very good versus lefties.

  11. cards suck

    They call it dumpster diving in japan also

  12. Rebuilding

    It takes about a year and a half to get over Tommy John Surgery. Wada finally looked healthy the last half of last year. I think he could become an effective situational lefty at some point. On a minor league deal this is a good flyer

    1. DarthHater

      You forgot to preface all those words with “meaningless.” :-P

  13. woody

    The cynicism is crushing me. I think I’ll take two girlfriends and go to bed.

  14. NyN

    I think this signing is a pretty good one. But this back and forth over the comments is probably the funniest part of the winter meetings so far. Haha

  15. abe

    On a more serious note. Should we b worried about signing Tanaka? Are Japaneses pitchers more prone to having surgery?

    1. Rebuilding

      They are worked much harder at a younger age. The best youth pitcher in Japan threw something like 216 pitches in a tournament last year and then started 2 days later. It is a risk

      1. Luke

        Flatly disagree, Rebuilding. I don’t think the numbers back this up at all.

        Nor am I convinced that they are worked all that much harder than some college pitchers in the US. Or some high schoolers for that matter.

        1. Rebuilding

          I’m sorry, Luke, but you’re flat wrong.

          “Japanese High School Pitcher Throws 772 Pitches In Nine Days, Cultural Divide Or Abuse?”

          1. Rebuilding

            “The question is brought up of whether Anraku’s coach is abusing his pitcher, who even at 16 can clock 94 mph on the radar gun, or if it is a matter of a cultural divide. The thinking in Japanese baseball circles is that a pitcher should throw and throw and throw to perfect their mechanics, and thus relieve stress on their arm later.”

            1. Luke

              How many pitches did Kerry Wood throw in his final high school tournament?

              1. Rebuilding

                I just talked about that below. First of all that was 20 years ago before pitch counts had really caught steam even in the majors. Now almost all Little League through American Legion programs have a version of pitch counts or days rest. So they are way behind the times. If I remember correctly Wood threw 168 pitches and 2 days later threw an inning of relief.

                I don’t know what you want Luke. The Jeff Passan article explicitly states it’s a cultural thing

                1. Luke

                  And cites one example of extreme work load.

                  I’m not buying one article with one anecdote as a universal indictment of the entire training regime for pitchers in the country that has one of the best national baseball programs in the world.

                  If Japanese pitchers had a higher than normal rate of arm problems, Japan would have changed their practices, or at least would be in the process of doing so. That national baseball program is run by very intelligent, very competitive people. If they were consistently blowing up the arms of their aces, they would change.

                  That quite simply has not happened.

                  I’m not arguing that the mindset over there isn’t different. It very clearly is (although I’m not sure it is as universally different as it is made out to be, particularly as compared to the programs run at some colleges and high schools in the US today). What I’m arguing is that there is no clear, objective, verifiable evidence that links Japanese pitchers to arm trouble at a higher rate than pitchers from other countries. I’ve yet to see any study reach that conclusion.

                  1. Rebuilding

                    Ok, will you buy Tanaka’s workload. How many pitches a game do you think he threw the last 3 seasons:

                    2011 27 Starts 226.1 IP 14 CG
                    2012 22 Starts 173.0 IP 8 CG
                    2013 27 Starts 212.0 IP 8 CG

                    That would make Dusty Baker proud. But it’s considered normal there. He often goes 140-150 pitches deep

                    1. Rebuilding

                      “As a high school senior, Tanaka threw 742 pitches over six appearances, breaking the national record of 643 pitches thrown by Daisuke Matsuzaka eight years earlier.”

                    2. Rebuilding

                      And that’s over 6 days!

                    3. Luke

                      In 666 career starts Walter Johnson threw 531 complete games and at the age of 38 was still pitching above league average as measured by ERA+. Compared to him Tanaka is complete lightweight.

                      That doesn’t tell us anything either.

                      Yes, Japanese pitchers throw more pitches, throw more on their off days, and generally work deeper into games. That’s not in dispute.

                      The question is do they get injured more often, and I can’t find any evidence that they do.

                    4. Rebuilding

                      You are making my point for me, Luke. Walter Johnson?! They also used to use leeches in medicine. For every Walter Johnson there were 10 guys you never heard of that blew out their arms. Are you arguing against pitch counts?

                    5. hansman

                      I thimk luke is saying thatt you can find anecdotes to support anything.

                    6. Luke

                      No. I am being extremely, exceedingly clear in what I am arguing.

                      I am saying that there is no objective, verifiable data linking Japanese pitchers to arm injuries at a higher rate than pitchers from other areas.

                      I am not arguing that they pitch more, or that they have very different training programs, or that they idea of how a pitcher should develop is radically different.

                      I’m not arguing that their way is the better way, or that all pitchers should throw that much, or anything else.

                      I am arguing exactly one thing – that there is no objective, verifiable evidence linking Japanese pitchers to a higher rate of arm injuries as compared to pitchers from other areas. That’s it.

                    7. Rebuilding

                      I just posted Tanaka’s workload as a professional and as an amateur. That is the person we are talking about so hardly an anecdote. Are you now arguing against pitch counts, as well?

                    8. Rebuilding

                      So implicitly or explicitly you are arguing against pitch counts. Tanaka threw an average of 138 pitches per start last year. Do you think that is an acceptable workload?

                    9. Luke

                      I think I’ve typed it six times now, so this time I’ll just copy and paste.

                      I am arguing exactly one thing – that there is no objective, verifiable evidence linking Japanese pitchers to a higher rate of arm injuries as compared to pitchers from other areas. That’s it.

                    10. Cheese Chad

                      Didn’t pitchers used to throw complete games almost every time they started. I think it’s the overuse of certain breaking pitches and too much lifting weights that leads to arm troubles. Not a doctor but bobby cox and Leo Mazone could argue this point pretty well

                    11. Kyle

                      “Didn’t pitchers used to throw complete games almost every time they started.”

                      Back in those days, they got hurt a lot, and the ones who survived didn’t throw their hardest on every pitch like you have to now.

                  2. TK

                    You have any idea of the washout rate in Japan? You may not have data before you to prove it to you, but you don’t know it to be false, either.

                    I, myself, can’t vouch for the direct correlation to injury because I don’t have supporting documentation (although common sense suggests it), but I do know for fact that the extreme pitch count is common practice in Japan, and they do have significantly high washout rates. I’ve watched, from feet away, coaches thrashing (exercising “vigorously”) 10 – 12 y/o boys at the batting cages after practice when the rest of the team has gone home. Ive seen boys not able to raise their arms to shoulder level after practice. Boys that need help from their teammates to walk home. Those boys are worked HARD. Its like Ivan Drago almost.

                    In Japan there’s basically baseball and soccer. Imagine every American boy that plays a sport, any sport, and eliminate all of those sports except baseball and soccer . . . and you have your Japanese youth (boys) sports world with the exception of a small minority of outliers. Theres a reason so few (out of such a massive pool) make it to, and are successful in NPB.

                    However, I also have the sense that if these very few do make it to that level, there is a decent chance that their bodies are just ridiculously more resilient than most. They are machines. I also believe that the ones that are actually “trained up” to such a level “properly,” have a much greater chance to withstand the outrageous stress put on their bodies by their overly-competitive/invested/driven/zealous coaches. Specifically regarding the coaches . . . think Dance Moms.

                    1. Luke

                      “You may not have data before you to prove it to you, but you don’t know it to be false, either.”

                      This is true, and is the other side of the same coin.

                    2. waittilthisyear

                      You can use facts to prove anything. Facts schmacts

            2. Luke

              Also, that article even admits that Anraku was an extreme example and, in the article, references other cases of more normal work loads (such as Darvish).

              You can’t draw a broad conclusion by the study of outliers. And I have yet to find a conclusive study that demonstrates that Japanese pitchers have a higher rate of arm surgeries than American pitchers. There’s a ton of anecdotal stuff (like that article) and speculation, but anecdotes and speculation lead to things like supremacy of batting average and the value of wins and losses as pitching stats.

              You want to convince me? Show me the numbers at a statistically significant size over a longer enough period of time to be relevant as valid for study.

              1. Rebuilding

                The thinking in Japanese baseball circles is that a pitcher should throw and throw and throw to perfect their mechanics, and thus relieve stress on their arm later.”

                Don’t know what else you want. The Passan article goes into more detail. We have pitch counts all through American baseball now including high school

                1. hansman

                  And before those csme into being you had the extreme cases of American pitchers throwing insane number of pitches in a week.

                  1. hansman

                    Btw…autocorrect isnt that bad of a thing.

                    Anyone know if samsungs have it?

                  2. Rebuilding

                    Yes, 15-20 years ago

                    1. hansman

                      There are still a handful of states that have no rules and I think iowa adopted them 6ish years ago.

                    2. Rebuilding

                      And so? They are slow to adopt.

                      “As a high school senior, Tanaka threw 742 pitches over six appearances, breaking the national record of 643 pitches thrown by Daisuke Matsuzaka eight years earlier.” – over 6 days

                    3. hansman

                      And Japanese officials are slow to adopt

                  3. greenroom

                    I am pretty sure I read somewhere that Satchel Page would throw insane amount of innings in his barnstorming days. Really interesting history, imho. just a throw in to the conversation.


                2. Luke

                  That Passan article cites one extreme case and then talks in generalities.

                  The plural of anecdote is not data. There are lots of anecdotes. I want data.

    2. Luke

      I’m not entirely sure that’s a serious question.

      But no.

      Pitching is an unnatural motion that places unusual stresses on the joints and sometimes results in damage that needs repaired. Skin color, place of birth, racial identity, primary language, and cultural practices have absolutely nothing to do with that. Pitching is not more of an unnatural motion for the Japanese than it is for Europeans, or New Zealanders, or Tibetan monks, or kids on a playground in Honduras, or anyone else.

      There have been a couple Japanese pitchers that have needed surgery soon after coming to the US lately, but there have been plenty who haven’t. Being Japanese has absolutely no bearing on the question of injury in any meaningful sense.

      1. T-Bone

        I think we notice it more because we are getting the best of the best of the pitchers out of Japan. That means that these guys are going to be VERY overused over there. That can lead to a lot of these arm issues. I am unsure if the lower leagues in Japan have the same pitching limits as little league over here, but i dont think its enough to be concerned about bringing these guys here to compete. Every pitcher can develop arm issues.

        1. Rebuilding

          “The thinking in Japanese baseball circles is that a pitcher should throw and throw and throw to perfect their mechanics, and thus relieve stress on their arm later.”

          It is a regular occurrence at their high school tournaments for the top pitchers to throw 150+ pitches one day and then 150+ two days later. I remember the outcry when Kerry Wood was a senior in high school (so 20 years ago) when he pitched in a reginal final and then came in for 1 inning 2 days later. Different world

          1. Luke

            Boom. Opposite anecdote.

            “Throwing too few pitches in practice, which is now the norm for American pitchers, is actually a prescription for more arm injuries and less skilled pitchers. There was an interesting article in Sports Weekly about Bobby Valentine, the former big league manager.

            A quote from the article: “Valentine says he spent that morning watching “three of my starting pitchers throw 150 pitches each. At the end, they were firing and hitting corners. I wanted to kiss them. “He shakes his head.”

            That goes against my grain,” he says of watching all those pitches. “It goes against everything I’ve learned in the process of becoming a manager. But they do it here, and I don’t see guys getting hurt. I honestly don’t know why.””


            And now we have two vastly conflicting articles and still no actually objective, verifiable data on arm injury rates among the two groups of pitchers.

            1. abe

              I was thinking that maybe their arms are used to “overthrowing”. When the come to the states are start throwing less is cause arm injuries? What do you think?

              1. Luke

                I don’t, to be honest.

                Everything I’ve been taught about pitching says that no Japanese pitcher should be able to move their arm past the age of 23 or so. And yet… they still pitch quite well.

                And, if you do some digging, the way Japanese pitchers are trained is similar to the way American pitchers used to train before the advent of Tommy John surgery and the five man rotation and the rest of the modern game.

                But I don’t know which way is correct, better, more injury prone, or more useful for developing pitching talent. Oddly enough, I can’t find many studies at all that have really looked at this.

                1. cub2014

                  Pitching injuries are so hard to predict
                  Until the mid 80′s rotations were 4 men
                  now they are 5, so I would assume starters
                  thru more innings then than they do now.
                  Yet It feels like there are more arm injuries
                  today than in the 60-70-80′s (dont know the
                  facts though)

                  The size thing (more injury prone if you
                  are smaller) I dont know if I buy that either
                  (unless there is some proof)

                  I pitched in HS and 4 years of college I was
                  6′ but only weighed 140-150lbs. Always had
                  a sore arm during and after I pitched, but was
                  never injured. I know one example means

                  1. Kyle

                    Survivorship bias.

                    There were just as many arm injuries back then (and they tended to end careers rather than be setbacks), but you didn’t hear about those guys. You only heard about the ones who didn’t get hurt.

                    1. Rebuilding

                      ^^^This. And the same goes for Japanese pitchers. I’ll try to dig up the Fangraphs article on Pitcher Abuse Points and how good it is predicting an injury and/or a drop in velocity

            2. T-Bone

              I guess the real question is what type of pitches are they throwing. 150 curve balls vs 150 fastballs makes a big difference.

              1. Luke

                I suspect there may be something to this line of thinking, but I can’t find anyone who has actually studied it.

                1. T-Bone

                  I would also be interested in studying if they are overthrowing. Not as in too many pitches, but trying to throw harder than they should. If we want to talk about generalities we can say that American pitchers are too worried about the radar gun and dont focus on mechanics.

                2. D.G.Lang

                  I remember reading about an American fireballer who was still throwing very hard at 40 ears old. He threw mostly fast balls and not so many breaking balls. The thought was that it was all the breaking balls which were causing the most harm but when the pitcher mostly threw fast balls they weren’t injured as often or as bad.

      2. abe

        If you had a choice of one (baised on the cubs limited money) would you rather samardzija or Tanaka? It seems we will have to over pay for both..

  16. will

    Brett no offence but you have been touchy lately

    1. DarthHater

      Nah, Bert’s always been touchy. :-P

      1. Bret Epic

        Not as touchy as the Catholic church…but in all seriousness, I would be on edge too. A lot of the commenters and comments have ben off topic and degrade the integrity of the site, as well as the title of a “Cubs fan.”

        1. hansman

          Not sure why the crack against the catholic Church

          1. DocPeterWimsey

            Rumor has it that Brett almost edged their candidate for Time Person of the Year.

            1. hansman

              Bah…as a two-time Time PoYer, its not cool until you win twice

  17. jt

    The guy is trying to create a comment section that is a bit more interesting to read.
    Perhaps he could use a little help.

  18. diehard that will die hard

    been a Cubs fan for a long time now, and I hope to see the Cubs eventually win the World Series. When I was younger, watching the Hawk and Ryno and Gracey I knew this team would eventually win it. We had the Shawon-O-Meter and Hector Villanueva (or, as Harry would say, Villanova) and we threw in some pieces later in their career, like George Bell and Fred McGriff. Each knew addition added to the hope that we would get there. There was Shane Mathews and Hundley, who could clobber the ball but hit for an average that was worthless. Used to love teams with Angel Salazar and Manny Trillo, but, since I’ve matured and realized hope only goes so far I’ve watched the Bartman incident with a mild hope that we would lose the series. If we won it was over. The Cubs would have achieved what had been unachievable and perhaps they would be like the Bulls Franchise that had Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman.
    We are the lovable losers and (from somebody that was all for Hendry’s spending spree) at least we now have something to look forward to. A future of sustainable winning.
    If we ever get there will you lose interest? I probably will.

    1. Cheese Chad

      Louis salazar

      1. Chet Masterson

        In his defense, Angel “Argenis” Salazar did play for the Cubs – it was just for a fraction of one season. I’m guessing you’re right though that he missed Luis tomahawking fastballs in his eyes into the LF bleachers.

        Who the hell is Shane Mathews? I can’t even figure out who he might be talking about. The old Florida QB?

        1. Patrick W.

          True story: I was standing in the Chicago Bears locker room at Halas hall when Shane Matthews walked in wearing nothing but shorts and flip flops and carrying a giant pizza box which was supporting a six pack of Miller Lite. He looked at me and apologized. That’s the whole story.

          1. Chet Masterson

            I laughed aloud at this story. Thanks.

            And Shane Andrews?! Wow – that is a niche pull. Kudos.

          2. Cheese Chad

            That’s cute that he apologized. It’s like he thought you would expect better from him……..

        2. Patrick W.

          Also: Shane Andrews.

  19. Dustin S

    The software you’re using might not support it, but maybe an upvote/downvote system would help?

    I would love for the Cubs to make some big moves that would change the outlook for 2014 as much as anyone, but honestly looking back at it so far there aren’t really many free agent signings so far that I would have felt good about. Cano for 10 years? Even Ellsbury for 7? Heck Bartolo Colon got a 20 million 2 year deal. Taking a step back and being honest, I would want no part of any of those.

    1. Voice of Reason

      This is why we need to be patient at least another full season and let kids develop.

      Once we established and filling holes adding a colon or choo might look great when put around other awesome offensive players and good pitching. Were not there yet so all the free agents are just ho him.

  20. ClevelandCubsFan

    It was close to T-giving, so maybe no one noticed, but the RED SOX signed Brandon Snyder!! Yeah Brandon Snyder! WOOT! World Series REPEAT baby!

    And the Cardinals signed Ed Easley, MAN! Stupid EPSTOYER! Throw away the division to the Cardinals again why don’t you?? Why weren’t they on TOP of that action??? hahahahahahaha stupid cardinalz

    Can someone write a PHP script to delete any sentence with “World Series” or “playoffs” either when (A) that is the sum total of the sentence or (B) the Cubs are the subject? The script could be removed once the “Plan” is further down the road.

    1. T-Bone


  21. Jesse

    Yeah the Cubs signed him.. Wada ya gonna do about it?.. I’m sorry

  22. Rebuilding

    “Yes, Japanese pitchers throw more pitches, throw more on their off days, and generally work deeper into games. That’s not in dispute.

    The question is do they get injured more often, and I can’t find any evidence that they do.”

    (1) Earlier you said the first paragraph couldn’t be proven or you hadn’t seen anything that proved it.

    (2) The second paragraph argues against pitch counts. Is that the argument you are making?

    1. Luke

      No, what I haven’t seen proved is that the workload placed on Japanese pitchers results in more arm injuries.

      I also mentioned that I am skeptical that the typical Japanese workload is all that higher than the workload at some American high school and college programs, but I’ll freely admit that is just a suspicion and that I don’t have data to back it.

      2 – No. Again, I am arguing exactly one thing – that there is no objective, verifiable evidence linking Japanese pitchers to a higher rate of arm injuries as compared to pitchers from other areas. That’s it.

      1. D.G.Lang

        Perhaps if you reduce your comments to “there is no objective, verifiable evidence” the idiots might begin to understand it.

        It currently seems too long for some of them or maybe too confusing or they simply don’t want to understand it no matter what you say or how many times you say it. Dan

  23. Aaron

    A very, very poor man’s Tanaka.

    A left-handed pitcher with an unorthodox delivery. Certainly worth a look.

  24. Eric

    I like these kind of moves. Nice upside, no risk. I think this guy sort of had a sidearm delivery before TJ so I wonder what it looks like now?

    Note: people, just ignore those who don’t value others opinion or are too young to realize they’re being obnoxious. Breathe in. Breathe out. Move on.

  25. bpaoni

    Wada/Fujikawa making a nice little Japanese contingent on this team, possibly making it an easier transition for a certain Japanese pitcher….

    1. cub2014

      Lim/Wada/Fujikawa = Tanaka?

  26. Patrick G

    Blue Jays and Cubs talked about shark and want both Stroman and Sanchez plus another prospect, which of course they should. Also, this article mentions shark is 26, maybe if Toronto front office believes that too we could get plenty more

    1. Eric

      I would very much like that deal to happen.

    2. Luke

      Samardzija and change for Rasmus, Stroman and change wouldn’t be such a bad thing.

      1. Eric

        Only if Rasmus would sign long term with us. He’s a free agent next year.

    3. Assman22

      This has been the Cubs’ asking price for a couple months…BJ’s prefer to deal Stroman over Sanchez…offers from BJ’s were always Stroman+++ for Shark…Nats had best offer of all before the Fister trade…Cubs relegated back to BJ’s whom haven’t budged…Cubs not big on Rasmus…

  27. Ferris

    Garza is as good as shark,we sign him an trade shark
    Then we need rh power….hopefully olt can provide some pop. Choo would also be a great fit.

    Lf choo
    Ss castro
    1B rizzo
    Rf shurholtz
    3B olt
    Cf sweeny.lake
    C castollo
    2B murphy.valbuena

  28. diehard that will die hard

    wow, reading hurt feelings all over the board. move on people, we’ve got Theo, who is a great baseball mind. Doesn’t matter where our biggest fans–the Rickets Family–are. They’re not there to cash out on the biggest losing franchise in baseball. They too are fans.

  29. North Side Irish

    Looks like Coomer officially got the radio gig (by default)…but it’s a two year deal? Didn’t think that was an option…

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