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2014 Cubs ConventionThe 2014 Chicago Cubs Convention comes to a close today. I’ll have a great deal for you in the coming days about the things that were said, as well as my experience.

In the meantime, more Masahiro Tanaka stuff, because obviously. With a signing deadline of this Friday, and the need to have all of the t’s crossed and i’s dotted by then, we will probably learn of a deal – either the fact that he’s agreed to one, or (more likely) which team he’s selected – by mid-week. That’s just a couple more days after today for anyone who is calendar-challenged.

Yesterday, Bruce Levine reported positive signals throughout the day about the Cubs’ chances of surprising everyone and actually landing Tanaka, but Gordon Wittenmyer quickly offered a rebuff:

A couple of scouts offered similar takes to Dave Kaplan:

I think it’s fair to surmise at this point little more than we already thought entering into the weekend: the Cubs are very seriously pursuing Tanaka, are not putting on a show, and believe they have a chance – likely a very small one – of actually getting Tanaka. The headwinds, of course, remain the rebuilding state of the club, the potentially less attractive city in which the Cubs play, and a lesser ability to toss out perversely ridiculous money with the knowledge that if Tanaka busts you can paper over that mistake later.

Ultimately, to get Tanaka, you get the sense that the Cubs will not only have to offer him the most money, but will also have to convince him that joining this particular team at this particular moment in time is going to be special (which I tend to believe is a fair sales pitch). And Tanaka’s going to have to be attracted to the idea of being “the man” on his team.

There is a lot of chatter at the convention about specific numbers, and about how high the Cubs’ offer might be (some folks say it’s strikingly large). Jesse Rogers hears from a source that the Cubs could go as high as seven years and $25 or $26 million per year. Depending on where you look and to whom you listen, I’ve heard others mention a similar range, but I’ve also heard numbers much lower. As Rogers aptly points out, this is a particularly secretive process, and it’s hard to get solid information. I’d add that, given the strong incentive for teams to provide disinformation, and an agent’s incentive to drive up the price, it’s really hard to be sure what’s accurate and what’s agenda.

As for other suitors, a report out of Japan indicated that at least five teams – the Cubs, Yankees, Dodgers, Diamondbacks, and White Sox – have made formal offers to Tanaka, each being for more than $100 million over six years. Although reports at this stage aren’t going to mention such things, you should probably prepare yourself for the fact that whichever team gets Tanaka is probably going to have to give him an opt-out clause halfway through the deal. It sucks, but it’s the price of playing poker.

Tick tock, and all that.

  • http://benjaminlaw.com Kevin

    Why would the cubs start trading prospects now? Seems silly. And what outfield bat do you think is available and worth our good prospects?

  • Diehardthefirst

    I suspect but can’t prove that Tanaka needs enough to pay his team $30000000 to compensate for the limited posting fee.

  • http://benjaminlaw.com Kevin

    Tanaka paying nothing to his old team. MLB put a stop to that though you are correct that his old team was looking for donation from Tanaka

    • Diehardthefirst

      Ignorance bliss is still ignorance- case in point is Castro fiasco

      • http://www.michigangoat.blogspot.com MichiganGoat

        No his money will be used to pay off Cuba duh.

        • Diehardthefirst

          Castro ransom pales compared to Tanakas

  • NorthSideIrish

    Bruce Levine ‏@MLBBruceLevine 3m
    Tanaka has told teams that a part of his decision will be based on the Japanese culture available to him and his wife.

    Let’s hope it’s a small part of his decision…

    • http://www.michigangoat.blogspot.com MichiganGoat

      It’s about the money if all things are equal then sure but this is just narrative blah blah press speak. The best cash offer will win, this could be his agents trying to get the Cubs to offer even more if they are already the top offer. The money will be the deciding factor. Where ever he goes he will praise the culture and his wife’s opportunity, but he will not take a lesser offer for these reasons.

      • jp3

        I totally agree Goat. Even it’s only $5-10 million difference he’ll take it probably. If he doesn’t he’ll be the 1st athlete ever to do so. Cano turned down the history and comfort if the yanks for the rainy and boring Seattle franchise

        • Kyle

          As someone reminded me earlier this week, we lost out on Mike Hampton despite possibly a higher bid because his wife liked the Denver school system.

          • jp3

            Huh, didn’t know that, looks like that was a case of addition by subtraction on that one. Random thought, can’t believe he was recruited to Fsu to play cornerback too.

          • DocPeterWimsey

            And Hampton like being able to live someplace with deer in his backyard!

            However, if I recall, then they moved out months after moving there: it seems like it wasn’t quite what they thought it would be.

          • http://www.michigangoat.blogspot.com MichiganGoat

            Tanaka is the first player under this new posting system and if takes a lesser bid I don’t think it will go over well with agents, unions, and future players. He is setting a market and everyone wants him to get the largest contract he can get. If it’s just a few million then sure go where he wants but if I comes out that he left 10M+ just cause he wanted to be somewhere else it lowers the market for future players. He’s aware if this and right now the agent is just trying to drum up more cash with these stories.

            • Diehardthefirst

              Your conspiracy theory is intriguing. Do you think one of his agents posts here under an alias?

              • http://www.michigangoat.blogspot.com MichiganGoat

                Coming from you this is hilarious because an agent has never leaked stories to drive up prices… THAT NEVER HAPPENS. But Cuba and the MLB are in a deep conspiracy to sell players… CAUSE THAT MAKE MORE SENSE.

      • DocPeterWimsey

        It will be disappointing if the Yankees convince Tanaka that they will be competitive in 2-3 years time. For all the repetition of “The Yankees will do whatever it takes” rhetoric, the Yankees probably will not be able to do what it takes to turn their franchise back into a competitor: the parts that they need simply will not be obtainable. This seriously looks like a franchise that is a few years away from competing: and this winter’s patches might actually be a bigger hindrance than help in 4-5 years time.

        • hansman

          NONSENSE!!!! if cash man were any good they’ll be competitive with an awesome farm syst…oh.

      • Voice of Reason

        Goat,

        It is not about the money.

        From reports, it sounds like if it was about the bread he would be a cub. Not to mention, we learned the cubs would not be outbid.

        If both are true then why will he not be coming to Wrigley field?

        • http://www.michigangoat.blogspot.com MichiganGoat

          Because he’s agent is smart and trying to raise up the price.

      • Diehardthefirst

        Slap in the face to America that he will take our money but wants to live among his own so doesn’t have to assimilate

        • http://www.michigangoat.blogspot.com MichiganGoat

          Well now you have left me speechless…

        • Patrick W.

          This might just make it to the top of the list of most idiotic things you’ve posted. Definitely top 3.

          • Mike F

            It is just a matter of time when he stops talking in the third person and quoting himself…..

          • CubbiesOHCubbies

            Isn’t trying to pick the most idiotic comment pointless. It’s kind of like being the tallest midget, or the skinniest kid at fat camp……. At the end of the day ALL his comments are idiotic, the midget is still short and the fat guy is still fat. And just for the record, as a short, fat guy myself, these comments can not be insensitive.

    • SPWrigley

      Not sure this is anything new. I also question BL’s sources; given how quiet this process has been kept I doubt anyone really in the know is leaking information.

    • hansman

      Hey, Cubbies. Up your bid so we can leak reports about you being the favorites again so other teams will up their bids.

      • http://www.michigangoat.blogspot.com MichiganGoat

        THAT NEVER HAPPENS… quit living in the grassy knolls of conspiracy.

    • tobias

      Actually, Illinois ranks, Nationally, sixth in the nation in Japanese population with 85% living near Chicago. Schaumburg is one of the suburbs that has a descent size Japanese community.

      • CubbiesOHCubbies

        speaking from experience, I am guessing that number one on the list is the Bellagio in Vegas….

  • Blackhawks1963

    The Tanaka’s referencing Japanese American community as important is yet more ammunition that he really wants to play for the Dodgers. If not the Dodgers, then the Yankees will be his choice.

    White Sox, Cubs and Diamondbacks have no shot. They never did. Only other teams who could have had a shot are the Mariners, Angels and Giants but they seemingly all bowed out.

    This thing is over for the Cubs. In fact, it never really began. The only drama left is will he take less money from the Dodgers to be able to play in LA or will the Yankees be able to woo him with a better financial offer versus the Dodgers.

    • http://www.michigangoat.blogspot.com MichiganGoat

      Hmm never heard this before

      • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

        Nope that’s a new one, never heard that opinion from this particular commenter

        • EvenBetterNewsV2.0

          At least when this thing is done we don’t have to listen to him anymore. This is the only thing he “contributes”.

  • TanakaWillBeACub

    blackhawks you can shove everything youre saying straight up your ass bcuz its bullshit

    • bbmoney

      I love how there are two posters so convinced about absolutely opposite positions. We need some kind of showdown about this.

    • wasssssup

      Language!!!!

      • bbmoney

        I’m just appreciative even in an expletive laden post the your and you’re’s were correctly used.

  • Diehardthefirst

    Successful teams are strong up the middle- Cubs are stronger up the middle than Yankees with Cano gone– no matter who gets Tanaka I can see Cubs 70 wins besting Yankees in 2014

    • Mike F

      great work now you are arguing with yourself, this is getting good. Please start quoting yourself and referring to yourself in the third person. Someone of your status has earned that right…..

    • Patrick W.

      And this might go up there with the most plausible things you have ever posted. Still pretty ridiculous but plausible.

  • TanakaWillBeACub

    TANAKA WANTS THE MONEY HE WILL GO TO THE TEAM THAT OFFERS HIM MORE MONEY ANY PLAYER THAT SAYS HE DOESNT WANT THE MOST MONEY IS LYING THROUGH THEIR GOD DAMN TEETH ISNT THA T WHAT CANO SAID ABOUT THE YANKEES AND THEN HE WENT TO THE MARINERS FOR MORE MONEY HE WILL SIGN WITH THE CUBS BCUZ THEY WILL OFFER HIM THE MOST MONEY HE WOULD BE AN IDIOT TO TAKE LESS MONEY WHEN A TEAM IS TRYING TO PAY HIM MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • http://becomehealthier.com drcub1908

      So every free-agent has elected to take to MOST $, period? I am not buying that at all. An idiot to take less $, how much we talking that makes him an idiot? It is posts like yours that reflect how truly uninformed you are.

  • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

    Ow, my ears hurt, quit yelling

  • Mike F

    I have one simple question. Are VOR, Blackhawk 1963 and Diehard and his countless personalities cousins?

    • http://bleachernation.com woody

      No they are the manifestations of one person with multiple personalities.

  • TanakaWillBeACub

    its going to be about 25-30 million a year is what I think

    • BlameHendry

      And you want that? He’s not worth even 25 per year. 23 should be the absolute maximum, if it takes any more than that, I don’t want the Cubs tied down to such a ridiculous contract.

      • TanakaWillBeACub

        he is being compared to darvish I definitely would do it

      • Voice of Reason

        Blamehendry:

        You’re absolutely right. We don’t need to be hamstrung by a bad sign. Tanaka is not worth over $20 million a year. If we were a solid #2 away then in would say yes.

        I like tanaka, but not at the price it will take. And, its irrelevant because he isn’t coming to the cubs.

        Most of the guys on this site who want Tanaka are just itchy and want the cubs to sign a big name. Sometimes the best move is the move you don’t make.

        You guys need to be patient. When were ready to compete.there will be solid starters available through trade and free agency.

        • Cheese Chad

          Normally I’d agree that paying a big contract for a lot of years is a bad idea but that’s because most are for guys in and around 30 or older. He is 25 so ideally his prime is in about 2-3 years. The contract will likely be bad in the later years but one bad contract wouldn’t hinder the team to make other moves by that time.

        • Cheese Chad

          VOR, you should look at the free agents for the next couple of years. Not too many great options at SP.

          • Xruben31

            Cueto, Masterson, Shields, Scherzer, Bailey… That’s just next year.

          • Voice of Reason

            You have to remember that teams can make trades, too. There will be teams looking to dump salaries and the cubs will be in a financial position to take on salary to fill positions where they have holes.

            Get over Tanaka. He ain’t worth $25 million a year.

  • IndyCubsFan
  • TanakaWillBeACub

    their is no confirmation on how much but the diamondbacks have offered

  • NorthSideIrish

    TomLoxas ‏@TomLoxas 35m
    #Cubs deal with Rooftops imminent http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-insider/2014/01/cubs-and-rooftop-association-deal-appears-imminent/

    This would be huge…even if they couldn’t begin any of the restoration this offseason.

    • http://www.michigangoat.blogspot.com MichiganGoat

      Just saw this and I hope its coming along with Tanaka news… that will dramatically shift the tone of the fans.

      • hawkcub

        Saw this too. Could we finally getting to the end of this? Completely understand why they want the Miller sign gone. But I will miss it. Go to 4-7 games and always look at it when it’s a different team.

        • NorthSideIrish

          I’ll miss the Miller sign too…they were pretty creative. It’s also kind of strange to think that one of the rooftop owners holding up the process didn’t really have a rooftop.

          I’ll just be glad if we no longer have to hear from Beth Murphy and/or Alderman Tunney on this issue.

  • http://bleachernation.com woody

    Getting Tank and a deal with the rooftops would be huge. Followed by an extension for Shark. Then have Baez come up like Rizzo did and hit 20+ homers and 50+ RBI’s in a short season. And maybe a Victoria’s secret model for me! LOL

  • BlameHendry

    Yanks to be “very aggressive” on Tanaka:

    http://fansided.com/2014/01/19/mlb-rumors-new-york-yankees-signing-masahiro-tanaka/

    This was published tonight. In the article, Steinbrenner says that getting Tanaka is more important than staying under the luxury tax cap.

    Just thought I’d give some of you optimists a little preparation for let down. Nobody outbids the Yankees, unless your team happens to be called the Dodgers.

  • TanakaWillBeACub

    the cubs have the money to outbid the Yankees so quit dreaming Yankees fans lol

    • Blackhawks1963

      Whose a Yankees fan? You also need to stop with the name calling and expletives. Tanaka to the Cubs isn’t happening. It’s an objective viewpoint of all the data points. Get over yourself.

      • jp3

        I agree stop using the expletive “Yankees”.

  • TanakaWillBeACub

    according to mlbtraderumors the cubs reportedly offered him 25 million for 6-8 years that is 150-200 million dollars plus 20 million posting fee

  • TanakaWillBeACub

    im a Yankees fan but we cant get him we cant match the cubs no matter what people want hes going to go to where the team that offers him the most money and that will be the cubs ive been saying this al along and I cant wait until this is over in a couple days and I can tell you guys I told you so the cubs are the future the Yankees are the past all you guys need is someone like tanaka to help you guys when baez and Bryant and soler and other prospects are ready and you guys will actually get what all you cubs fans have been waiting for 105 years a world championship for the northsiders

    • BlameHendry

      No, you’re not a Yankees fan. Just stop dude.

      • TanakaWillBeACub

        yes I am why should we go over the luxury tax when sabathia and jeter are both gonna suck so we wil lose the division again tanaka is not going to help us win the division we should pass on him

    • frank

      Here are some periods — . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . — use them please.

  • Ballgame17

    Good lord BH1963, you complain about the Tanaka watch yet you repeat yourself literally 10 times (being conservative) a day. And btw, if he does go to the Yanks then you can rename yourself “Captain Obvious. Way to go out on a limb! If the Cubs don’t get him but someone other than the Yanks/Dodgers do, I’ll be laughing no doubt…

  • Diehardthefirst

    Tanaka certain to sign with Seattle as he counts on carryover effect of Seahawks and for other reasons stated earlier

    • half_full_beer_mug

      Your comments make as much sense as Sherman’s post game interview.

      • Diehardthefirst

        Seattle is gorgeous in summer and they will go back to Japan after season

        • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

          The next rumor out of diehard:

          Tanaka has narrowed his search down to Kansas City and the Memphis Redbirds (Yes, he will refuse to report to the big leagues and will stay in AAA) because he is absolutely obsessed with BBQ

      • mjhurdle

        that was an absolutely brutal post-game interview.
        The NFL really needs to step in and get that guy off drugs, again.

        • http://www.draftday.com udbrky

          I felt bad for Erin.

        • Diehardthefirst

          Most are on something — wink wink nod nod — how else can they play at that level and take the hits- most brain damaged by 45 – today’s Gladiators

          • jp3

            How about Bowman breaking his leg It looked like all for the officials to botch that call too. There was some terrible officiating that game and I was actually hoping Seattle won and still thought it was horrible

        • frank

          Shut it off after the first two words out of Sherman’s mouth . . .

        • blublud

          What’s was wrong with Sherman’s interview. We want our athletes to be real when expressing themselves, and as soon as they do, its a problem. Oh, but when Tim Tebow goes off in front of the media in his college locker room, it a sign of leadership. Sherman is the best cornerback in the game. He can express himself however he want. And when he wants to speak again, Erin will be chasing him in her high heels to get the scoop. So no need to feel sorry for her.

          • jp3

            Yeah what locker room is Tebow screaming in?

            • blublud

              Tebow went off worse then anything Sherman has ever done in his locker room at Florida. The media shrug it off and painted it as a leader motivating his teammates. I don’t have a problem with either. I actually like what sherman did. I love emotion. Crabtree shouldn’t be such a sore loser.

          • mjhurdle

            “We want our athletes to be real when expressing themselves,”

            Could you clarify who you mean by “we”? because most people I know share my opinion that we want our athletes to conduct themselves as adult human beings.
            If acting like a arrogant 4th grader is Sherman being “real”, then i will have to lower my opinion of him even more than I already have.

            Also, Sherman is not the best corner-back in the game, not even close to it really.

            • blublud

              Are you serious. Sherman is by far the best. This coming from a guy with Revis playing for my favorite team. There’s is a reason why he respected by his peers, prior players analysis and most fans as so. You don’t have to like him but saying “he is not even close to being the best” shows your lack of understanding the game.

              • mjhurdle

                i thought it would take more than one post to get to the “you don’t share my opinion so you don’t understand the game”, but i guess i over-estimated, again.

                oh well.

                • blublud

                  Let me break it down. Fans vote on pro bowl. Players and coaches vote on All Pro. Look at the 2013 all pro list and while you are at it, look at 2012. Please tell me not what corner back, but defensive back in general, has the most votes. If the guys that coach and play against him thinks he the best, then I really don’t think me or your opinion matters. He is the best CB in the game by far.

                  • mjhurdle

                    i disagree. And the fact that you think he is shows your lack of understanding of the game.

                    see what i did there? now neither of us knows the game

                    • blublud

                      My understanding of the games is based off the people who make a very healthy living playing and coaching against him. Their opinion means more then your or mines. Ask any analyst, player, coach, ex player and Erin Andrews who the best corner in football is, and I guarantee they’ll tell you it Sherman. My opinion is based off of that, not my feelings.

                    • mjhurdle

                      i care very little for who wins the NFL beauty contests.
                      I base my opinion on the same criteria (though i will add that I actually watch a lot of football too).
                      For me, a good CB is one that I don’t have to worry what officials are working a game. Sherman lives and dies with the contact he is allowed to make with receivers. When he is allowed lee-way, he is amazing. If the officials call it tight, he is normal.
                      Just my opinion, but it isn’t any less valid then yours

                    • blublud

                      You mea. sorta like Greg Maddux lived and died with how much off the plate the officials let him pitch. Jimmy Johnson lives with how much he can stretch the rules and get away with it. Kind of like baseball players using steroids, and people saying they were just trying to gain a competitive edge because that what athletes do. But Sherman does it and it means he’s not the best. Wow, the double standards.

                    • mjhurdle

                      you love projecting your own opinions of what other people think onto them. That is not a healthy mental exercise fyi.

                      maddux didn’t live and die with the umps, mostly because he was good enough to actually adjust to what the umps were doing and still be successful.
                      Steroid users are not universally touted as being the best (they just had a Hall of Fame vote that demonstrated that, in case you missed it)
                      We are talking about athletes, so I have no clue what Jimmy Johnson brings to the conversation.
                      If the best you got, that is one hell of a weak argument.

                    • blublud

                      If you think Maddux didn’t benefit from stretching zone, wow. I still think he’s a great pitcher.

                      Michael knew if he drove, he would get the call, even though he wouldn’t get touch. So what would he do, drive the basket.

                      LeBron. See Michael above.

                      Tiger Woods intentionally slowing the pace to screw up his playing partner.

                      Brady or Manning intentionally throwing into traffic to get calls that might or might not happen.

                      That’s call gaining a competitive edge, and to me, is different from cheating. If Sherman is able to take advantage of what the official allow, no different than the guys above, that’s makes him ever better and smarter. None of those things made those guys great, because they were already great. It just gave them one more competitive advantage.

                    • mjhurdle

                      Blublud, every pitcher benefits from stretching the zone.
                      The difference between every player you mentioned and Sherman is that if you take away Sherman’s down field contact with a receiver, he is average.
                      Manning and Brady don’t NEED PI calls to be great.
                      Maddux was great with a small or big zone.
                      Tiger was great playing fast or slow.
                      LeBron and Jordan could control games with or without calls.
                      By your logic, the 2012 Patriot secondary was all “great’, because they came out with a game plan to hold on basically every route and force the officials to let it go or throw flags on every play.
                      Just because it was a genius game plan does not make those players great.
                      Sherman is taking advantage of what the officials are allowing him because he is a name now (see A Jefferies and the calls he got this year vs last when no one knew who he was). That makes him smart, doesn’t make him “great”.

                    • blublud

                      Come on man. You don’t believe yourself. You just don’t like the guy. I grew watching Ronnie Lott make way more contact on receivers than Sherman could dream of. Also, on the game winning play he made, he made no contact. Look at the replay. Sherman is great like Brady(who is my favorite QB). To say that Brady is great with the benefit of the Ref but Sherman would suck is selective bias and shows your hate for the guy. Funny how the recievers and coaches feels he the best despite the ref cheating against them.

                    • blublud

                      Also, I hate the Bears but Alshon Jeffrey is a monster. He gets calls because only way to stop him is to PICK on him.

                    • mjhurdle

                      if you aren’t even going to bother trying to actually read what I am saying, then there is no point to this.
                      You feel threatened, and so once again you try to project your opinion of what i am thinking on me.
                      Nowhere have I said I hate Richard Sherman. I think what he did tonight was sad and embarrassing, and I don’t think he is the best CB in the game. Just because I don’t share your man-love for Sherman doesn’t make me “hate” him.
                      “To say that Brady is great with the benefit of the Ref but Sherman would suck is selective bias and shows your hate for the guy.”
                      go back and read my posts again. Brady is great IN SPITE OF the refs. he may benefit sometimes, he may not others. But he is great enough to over-come what type of officiating is going on, adjust his game, and still be successful. I hate Tom Brady, but i can admit this. Richard Sherman cannot adjust his game. Hence why he is not “great”.
                      Nowhere did I mention the last play in regards to Sherman making contact. I wouldn’t try to judge a player based on one play, that is absolutely pointless.
                      Lastly, what Ronnie Lott did when he played has absolutely zero relevance on Richard Sherman. The game is different now than it was then, so to say ‘OMG 3 decades ago this dude made crazy contact, so it is totally ok now too!!!” is ridiculous.

                    • blublud

                      That should be PI not PICK.

                    • blublud

                      Please explain to me how Sherman can’t adjust his game. He is as big as most recievers. He is as fast as most recievers. He has ridiculous closing speed. He has ridiculous range. He is phenomenal at the bump and run. He can play man as good as anyone the game has ever seen. Smart enough to understand and play an excellent zone corner. Has an extreme ability, at least its been stated, to talk his opponents out of their game but he’s only good because the refs. Wow. You win. I agree

          • frank

            Yes, he can express himself in whatever way he wants. That doesn’t mean that I have to like the way he does it or listen to it. I prefer athletes to show a little bit of class when expressing themselves, and I don’t care who it is. You prefer them to be “real”– and that’s fine — though I think you can be real and classy at the same time. And I don’t care how well or how poorly the athlete in question–Sherman or anyone else–plays the game. That’s why I shut it off.

  • http://www.draftday.com udbrky

    I finally met Brett this weekend. He is who he is on here – a nice guy, cool to hang out with. It’s always nice to meet people like that.

  • Ballgame17

    How can you defend Sherman? I second the look on Erin Andrews face….disgusted. Total lack of class in addition to when he taunted Crabtree after the INT at the end. It’s obvious he hasn’t made it to the Super Bowl before. Like my parents told me when I was in 3rd grade, “when you score a goal or make a big play, if you want to impress others act like you’ve been there before”. There’s a way to express yourself with class, he showed in 5 seconds that he has none….

    • blublud

      Actually, get the story right. He went up to Crabtree patted him on the but and said “good game” he stuck his hand out to shake Crabtree’s hand and Crabtree mushed him. After getting m ushed, he then taunted him.

      • mjhurdle

        actually, none of us know the story. I have never seen players shaking hands until the game is over. Maybe that was what Sherman was doing all in Crabtree’s face, but i don’t know.
        And even if it is, what excuse is that? Why does Sherman get a free pass to go off on Crabtree when Crabtree was just “being real when expressing themselves”, but then when others have problems with Sherman’s reaction, you tell us it is no big deal?

        Usually grown adults learn the ability to control themselves, especially in public, important occasions. And simply saying “well, other people lost their control first” is usually not the best of reasons.

        • blublud

          I like Crabtree. Crabtree is a very good receiver. I do think he was a sore loser, but I have no personal problem with what he did either. Two men playing for what they have dedicated their life to obtain. I would hope they would be emotional.

    • blublud

      Also, like I said before, I feel no sorrow for Erin(Now that’s a fine woman). If Sherman was giving that interview to anyone but her, she would be chasing him down to get the scoop. That’s her job, abd she loves it.

  • Ballgame17

    Yeah, I’m sure he was being genuine when he was saying that. Common sense would tell you that he went up there to give him isht. That’s all I’m saying, but I was mainly referring to the interview…

    • blublud

      How many times did Jordan talk trash to Starks, Miller, Dumas just to name a few and people celebrated it. He didn’t do it in most interviews, but he was the worse trash talker in all of sports. He picked Miller up by the neck and walked him down the court and was celebrated for it, and still is to this day. Sherman has never done anything close to that, but he’s a bad guy. Really. Give me a break, it sports. Everybody taunts everybody. I have personally seen Crabtree taunt people. So don’t dish it if you can’t take it.

  • Ballgame17

    Haha, no doubt we can agree on the level of her hotness. Dating an NHL player, standard!!

  • blublud

    People are crazy. You can. Have your nice guys. Give me several Iverson’s, Zambrano’s, Sherman’s, John Rocker’s, Michael Jordan’s with Jim Mora, Danny Green and Mike Singletary as my coaches and I’ll win you some Championships.

  • Ballgame17

    Of those 8 people you mentioned, only 1 has a championship. You referred to Singletary as a coach, that’s why I’m only saying Jordan. Noone wants to listen to a “Bill Belichick” personality during interviews, but have some dignity and self-respect. My favorite coaches are snap shows and I’m definitely not one who wants “nice guys” on my team…

  • Don Eaddy

    Everyone better get used to “arrogant” “classless” “big-mouthed” players. If the Cubs rebuild goes as planned we will be led by guys like Baez, Soler, and Castro. We all know those Cubbies will be playing with emotion.

    • blublud

      Exactly. If people didn’t like Nijer Morgan, wait til they get a hold of Javier Baez.

  • Ballgame17

    Zero chance FO is gonna allow that to happen. Can guarantee it’s part of the “Cubs Way” players manual. Playing with passion/emotion is a great thing, but interviews don’t happen during play…confidence and arrogance are total opposites.

    • Don Eaddy

      You mean the same front office that had Manny being Manny, Big Papi, and Pedro?

    • blublud

      Because they had no problems in Boston making sure all players were stand up citizens. I defended Zambrano. I defended Baez comments last year. I defended Soler. I defended Iverson. I defended Vernon Davis. I defended Nijer Morgan. I defended Lebron at the 2011 finals. I defended Dez Bryant. I’ll defend Sherman. I love emotion and would much rather have a team full of emotional guys then a team with no emotion.

      • blublud

        Oh, I forgot. TO, Chad Johnson and even Riley Cooper. I even defended Paula Dean. LAMP.

    • Don Eaddy

      And I dont think our guys are going to be an issue with media, but rather an issue on the field (if everything goes as planned). These guys play with emotion in a sport that despises emotion.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB74CPKIPzw&feature=youtu.be

  • Ballgame17

    I follow Baez on Twitter and he’s not really over the top…

    • mjhurdle

      i follow Baez as well, and followed Morgan for awhile, and it is hard to see any similarities between the two.

      • blublud

        Morgan wasn’t nearly as good as Baez and spent time talking about stuff that really had nothing to do with baseball. Baez is more of an on the field show boater, not a Twitter show boater.

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