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old style cubs beerIn case you didn’t stop by last night, there’s an interesting Nate Schierholtz rumor going around about the Tigers’ outfield needs, and about the emergence of Ryan Kalish as a possible outfielder for the Cubs out of Spring Training.

  • Rejoice, ye lovers of tradition and average domestic beer: Old Style will still be served at Wrigley Field this year! The Cubs have reportedly confirmed that the company that runs concessions at the ballpark, Levy Restaurants, will serve Old Style, despite the Cubs’ big-money exclusive sponsorship deal with Anheuser-Busch. The exclusivity bought by that agreement was exclusive beer sponsorship, not necessarily sales (though I do expect you’ll see an increase in Budweiser and A-B presence at Wrigley), so Levy was always permitted to decide whether or not to continue serving Old Style. I believe you’ll have to go find the particular point of sale where they’re vending Old Style to get it, but at least you can still have one at Wrigley. It’s not the best beer in the world, but, as far as domestics go, it’s no worse than any others. And, hey, sometimes traditions are fun.
  • Patrick Mooney reports that Sammy Sosa’s camp has reached out to the Cubs about a reunion (Tom Ricketts discussed that situation last week), but it’s not something the Cubs are putting on the front burner right now.
  • The first round of Spring cuts could come as soon as the end of this week.
  • Ben Badler writes about the Cubs’ international signings, which is an interesting read, and he notes that – contrary to what he’d previously heard – big-time signees from last years class Eloy Jimenez and Gleyber Torres may not start their careers in the Arizona Rookie League. The duo is in Mesa right now for Spring Training (well, I know that Jimenez is, and I believe Torres will be, also), so they are likely to at least do extended Spring Training in Mesa until the short-season assignments are made in June. At that time, they could head back to the Dominican Republic and Venezuela for the seasons there, or they could stay and play rookie ball. Remember: it was always very surprising to hear that they might start out in the AZL, so, if they don’t, it’s not like it’s a knock on them. At just 17, the DWL and VWL would be completely normal for even the best prospects.
  • Speaking of minor league Spring Training, TCR’s Arizona Phil notes in a comment that pitching prospect Pierce Johnson has been shut down, and is now on “limited activity only”, which tends to be for injured and/or rehabbing pitchers. Before you freak out, let’s keep in mind that guys are limited in Spring Training for a number of reasons, and the Cubs will probably take it easy with a guy like Johnson, who is among the best pitching prospects in the system. It’s also possible that Phil is wrong about this, though he tends not to make mistakes on these things. Hopefully whatever is going on, it isn’t serious. Finding out about minor league injuries is always a tricky business, and not always as easy as just asking the question and getting an answer.
  • Kris Bryant has supportive parents. And a profile on Bryant from the San Diego Union-Tribune.
  • Coldneck

    Old Style is skunk. It’s far worse the most other domestic beers. The only reason it exists is Wrigley Field.

    • ari gold

      You should apologize to the skunks you offended haha

    • jeff1969

      Lord yes. The taste is something a cold version of accidentally getting arm pit sweat poured in your mouth. Hopefully cold. If you’re going to drink crap that’s a step above rubbing alcohol, I’d rather drink Black Label, Red White & Blue, Wisconsin Club, Rhinelander if I’m going to recklessly abuse my taste buds.

  • CubFanBob

    It’s took me twenty four years of slowly sipping Old Style at Cubs games to build up enough tolerance to be able to drink a cup every other inning and not die.

    • snakdad

      Dog Pile is what we call it.

      • D.G.Lang

        Panther Piss by some.

    • Picklenose

      Mold Style

  • Jon

    piss water

  • Kyle

    Given Pierce Johnson’s draft-day status as a guy who fell due to elbow concerns, I’ll be pretty surprised if he makes it through his career without a major setback at some point.

    • DocPeterWimsey

      Pierce Johnson’s Draft Day Status would be a good name for an IPA: but the rest of your post didn’t seem to have anything to do with beer.

      • http://www.friendly-confines.com hansman

        I wonder if you put Old Style in a craft beer bottle with the name “Piece Johnson’s Draft Day Status” how many folks would go from hating it to loving it.

        • jeff1969

          Nobody. There’s no mistaking the drinking of piss.

          • DocPeterWimsey

            The lack of any hippiness and the thinness of the malt would make it hard to confuse with most microbrews, even with the wheat beers.

            • Karl Groucho

              All they need to do, then, is change the label…

              [img]http://beerpulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/dirty-hippy-labelchosen-02-e1341071068899-200×200.png[/img]

              • Karl Groucho

                Karma = making a bad joke about a spelling error and then failing at embedding a picture

                Try #2:
                [img]http://res.cloudinary.com/ratebeer/image/upload/w_250,c_limit,q_85,d_beer_def.gif/beer_169208.jpg[/img]

                • DocPeterWimsey

                  Outstanding! It is almost as if my typo (or autocorrect) was meant to be….

                • Funn Dave

                  No way. A guy in my fraternity in college brewed his own beer and called it Dirty Hippie Beer or something like that….

          • DarthHater

            “There’s no mistaking the drinking of piss.”

            And you know this how?

  • Jason P

    Shock — Marcello Carreno made it onto AZ Phil’s “not present on field” group.

    • Javier Bryant

      Whatever happened to that guy?

      • Jason P

        I think he vanished into thin air.

  • OlderStyle

    “It’s not the best beer in the world, but, as far as domestics go, it’s no worse than any others. And, hey, sometimes traditions are fun.”
    +1

  • ChicagoJoe

    They should be working on securing more craft beer options. Not preserving offering (what Jon called it).

  • Darth Ivy

    Awesome! I just hope they don’t make you watch a video ad before drinking the beer…..ok, sorry, I just had to do that once. I’m over it now.

  • TulaneCubs

    I think a lot of people that call Old Style skunk haven’t tried the new version that was put out in ’09. I used to think Old Style was flat out disgusting, but the new version is on par with Bud or Bud Light, in my opinion.

    • DocPeterWimsey

      This takes damnation with feint praise to a new level!

      • Funn Dave

        *faint

        -BN Grammar Douche

        • DocPeterWimsey

          Lol: that was an amusing mental typo! I have been teaching my son rudimentary fencing lately: that probably is the sum of my efforts.

          • Funn Dave

            Badass. I always wanted to learn fencing.

            • Edwin

              I thought I wanted to learn fencing, but all I really wanted to do was play with swords and yell things from Princess Bride.

  • waittilthisyear

    i drink good beer for the most part. but my appreciation for the cubs and for drunken old men prevent me from saying anything negative about old style. side not, a bar by me sells old old style (as in, old style from the previous season), for 30 cents a can

    • snakdad

      Back when the vendors were allowed to have personality, there was one who’s pitch was “Old Style, Old Style, let’s all get drunk off Old Style”…..he was very popular.

  • Edwin

    I feel like Schierholtz gets a little overrated. He was worth 1.4 WAR last season, a career high. He’s worth negative value on defense the past three seasons. He doesn’t provide much value on the basepaths. His career wRC+ against RHP is 101, so it’s not like he crushes RHP. I don’t imagine the Cubs will get much back for him if they trade him.

    • C. Steadman

      agreed, I’m a big fan of Schierholtz but he’s an average player thats probably a 4th OF on a playoff team…still valuable especially for an NL playoff team(more AB’s as a 4th OF bc of more opps for pinch hitting) but we probably get a tier above an Ivan Pineyro-type prospect like we got for Hairston not a Top 10 prospect but more 15-20 range

      • C. Steadman

        “15-20″ tops i think, unless we deal with the Rangers again :)

      • TulaneCubs

        Yeah, my guess is the Cubs will ask for a prospect like Jake Thompson from the Tigers and the Tigers will counter with someone like Melvin Mercedes.

        Endrys Briceno or Drew Ver Hagen might be good compromises in the middle.

        • Edwin

          Sounds about right.

          Who knows, maybe the Cubs can flip him for something better, but I know if I was the team trying to aquire Schierholtz, I wouldn’t want to give up much for him.

        • C. Steadman

          I think Drew VerHagen gets it done(so I’m contradicting my “15-20 tops” prediction)…he’s a Vanderbilt guy that Derek Johnson coached so he’s very familiar with him…its not like the Tigers need pitching soon, even if they did they have multiple pitching prospects before Drew anyways

        • Javier Bryant

          Or Casey Crosby…

          • TulaneCubs

            Sounds like injuries are going to push him to the pen. I think the Cubs are going to want a guy that has a chance at sticking as a starter, but can move to the pen if need be.

    • ssckelley

      The ideal time to have traded Schierholtz was last season at the trade deadline. But the Cubs did not pull the trigger and he tanked the last 2 months of the season. If the Cubs are going to trade him we should temper our expectations on what the return will be.

      • DocPeterWimsey

        It wasn’t the Cubs failing to pull a trigger, it was other teams failing to take the bait.

        • Edwin

          Wait, are the Cubs hunting or fishing?

          • DocPeterWimsey

            Fishing for prospects! Seriously, it was the same deal as with Gregg: just because the Cubs (or any other team) is willing to trade a guy, it does not follow that anyone wants to pay for that guy. It is the classic supply-side fallacy: it really does take two to tango.

            • CubFan Paul

              “it really does take two to tango”

              Schierholtz had suitors, but the Cubs asking price was way over value (Jed’s words).

              • YourResidentJag

                Isn’t it always? ;)

    • CubFan Paul

      “I feel like Schierholtz gets a little overrated”

      Numbers don’t lie. He also struggled to adjust to advanced scouting after his hot start. We have enough of that with the younger players.

      “I don’t imagine the Cubs will get much back for him if they trade him”

      Still shocked he wasn’t traded last July when his value wasn’t going to get any higher (1.5yrs of control left)

      • DocPeterWimsey

        Or his hot start was just a sample size issue. His play actually didn’t deviate from constant rate in any major stats last year.

        • CubFan Paul

          Whatever that means

          • DocPeterWimsey

            If you roll 12 twice in a row in monopoly and fail to do that again, it isn’t because the other players adjusted to you. Most hot and cold streaks for players follow the same principle.

            • Edwin

              Yeah, but that’s a good thing, because if you rolled 12 for a third time, then you’d go to jail. Directly to jail. Without passing go. Or collecting $200.

            • Brocktoon

              I’m not saying I disagree but man that’s a really bad example(even beyond the 3 12s = jail spelled out below) your opponent cannot affect your dice roll, a pitcher can get advanced scouting reports on a player and adjust his approach to the player

            • CubFan Paul

              Yeah but no one is talking in theory.

              Scouts have come admitted that they only scouted Rizzo&Castro early in the season. After Schierholtz’s early season success the scouting reports were out on him too. Afterwards Schierholtz couldn’t adjust & execute consistently to get on base

              • DocPeterWimsey

                The heat charts that pitchers use are generated by computers, not by scouting reports. They are constantly updated for all players. It has been a decade since that sort of scouting was relevant.

                • CubFan Paul

                  Soooo….?

                  • Edwin

                    I assume what Doc is getting at is that while Nate had an up and down season, most of that can be explained by normal distribution of outcomes, and not neccessarily due to other teams figuring him out, or Nate failing to make adjustments. His struggles could have been other teams making adjustments, or it could just be that baseball players always go through hot/cold period.

                    • CubFan Paul

                      “while Nate had an up and down season”

                      It wasn’t up and down. His season was up then went down and stayed down. The numbers support that.

                    • Edwin

                      His wRC+ by month:

                      133,104,158,100,110,29.

                      So up, down, up, down, up, and then down. Two months he was right in line with career averages, two months he played well over his head, and the last month he was terrible. Those are the numbers I choose to use.

                    • Jason P

                      Exactly. The numbers support that Schierholtz had 3 good months, 2 average months, and 1 atrocious month.

                    • CubFan Paul

                      .304 July
                      .287 august
                      .212 September

                      His second half OBP

                    • Jason P

                      OBP is only part of the equation. That .287 OBP in August came with a .494 slugging percentage, which made him an average to slightly above average contributor for that month.

                    • http://www.friendly-confines.com hansman

                      So what you are saying is that over the course of nearly 1400 PA, MLB teams were unable to build a valuable scouting report on him but then over the course of the next 300 they figured him out completely?

                      Second half slugging:
                      .429 – July
                      .494 – Aug
                      .291 – Sept

                      It’s fun only looking at one thing and building a narrative!

                    • Edwin

                      Why is OBP better to use than wRC+?

                      It certainly could be scouting. Or it could be fatigue/injruies. Or just BABIP/ HR/FB% variations. Maybe he faced better pitching in the second half compared to the first half, or maybe he wasn’t platooned as much in the second half. Maybe a combo of some of those things.

                    • CubFan Paul

                      “Or it could be fatigue/injruies”

                      He did have second half nagging injuries and leaned on that excuse post-season.

                      “Maybe he faced better pitching in the second half compared to the first half…or maybe he wasn’t platooned as much in the second half…Maybe a combo”

                      Do you not follow the team day to day during the season or just during the offseason. That’s a serious question considering the subject matter.

                      I count five ors/maybes. either way, I don’t understand the goalpost moving on him sucking post All Star break

                    • CubFan Paul

                      “It’s fun only looking at one thing and building a narrative!”

                      e-jerk much? If you wanted more, all you had to do was ask:

                      1st half wRAA: 8.6 (6.5 coming all in June)
                      2nd half wRAA: -1.7 (July .6, August 1.7, September -6.2 (!))

                    • http://www.friendly-confines.com hansman

                      “Do you not follow the team day to day during the season or just during the offseason.”

                      e-jerk much?

                      I follow the team day-to-day and I don’t remember who he faced or . It appears that he wasn’t great nor was he figured out. He had a couple great months and a terrible-god-awful-holy-crap-what-are-you-doing-playing-baseball, month.

                      That month happened to occur in the 2nd half and happened to occur with two of his average months making his 2nd half split appear terrible.

                      Then again, maybe if we shifted the time periods to start and end on the 15th he would have a more even-keel season or if we broke the season down into thirds it might show he was abducted by space-aliens and replaced with Tony Campana.

                      Getting the “book out on him” or “adapting to advanced scouting” shouldn’t be happening after a thousand PA. At that point, you are who you are and sometimes league average guys perform above their norm. I wonder what his BABIP says about his performances.

                    • CubFan Paul

                      “I wonder what his BABIP says about his performances”

                      Just admit it: I burned you with wRAA that agrees with my original topic/narrative

                    • Jon

                      The e-jerk store called….they’re running out of you!

                    • Edwin

                      “Just admit it: I burned you with wRAA that agrees with my original topic/narrative”

                      No you didn’t. His wRAA over the season, by month, was 3.6, .9, 6.5, .6, 1.7, -6.2. So by month, he was up, then down, then up, then down, then up, then down. He was not up for three months, and then down for three months.

                      Also, why are you using wRAA? It’s a counting stat, so part of the change is just going to be from playing time. Why wouldn’t you use wRC+, wOBA, or some other rate stat?

                      Either way, I don’t see where your arguement about this holds water. August was his 3rd best month of the season. If Nate wasn’t able to adjust to advanced scouting, how do you explain his August?

                    • http://www.friendly-confines.com hansman

                      “Just admit it: I burned you with wRAA that agrees with my original topic/narrative”

                      So it took the league until September to figure out how to make him look like he probably doesn’t even belong in AA?

                    • Jason P

                      Schierholtz had a .782 OPS in August. If that’s the league “figuring him out”, then I’ll gladly take that.

                    • DocPeterWimsey

                      You assume correctly! It gets back to the simple exercise: if a guy is a constant 0.300 hitter and he gets 100 ABs per month against identical quality pitching, then in how many months do we expect his BA to be 0.250 or lower? In how many months do we expect his BA to be 0.340 or higher?

                      (This is not to validate BA as a metric in anyway, but just for the sake of the exercise. Oh, and the answers are “1” and “1.”)

                      Now, when we look at Schierholtz’s “core” numbers, we see that the walk rate yo-yoed around 5.8% all year. His K-rate spiked anomalously in July and (particularly) August. However, August also included two series against the Dodgers (2nd in NL in K’s), two against the Cards (5th in K’s), one against the Nats (6th in K’s), and one against the Reds (1st in K’s). So, at least part of that bump was the opposition. His K rate then fell back to normal in September (as did the K rates of the opposing pitching staffs).

                      Schierholtz’s XBH rate was indistinguishable from a constant rate until September: but that’s hardly unusual for a Cub.

                    • CubFan Paul

                      “August was his 3rd best month of the season. If Nate wasn’t able to adjust to advanced scouting, how do you explain his August?”

                      As pointed out above, his August wasn’t so great (3rd best in a mediocre year (.251/.301/.470)). OPS doesn’t tell everything.

                    • Edwin

                      Nobody said August was great, but it was still a better than average month for him, and his third best month of the season. It doesn’t fit the narrative that opposing pitchers suddenly figured him out, and that Nate suddenly wasn’t able to adjust. You still haven’t answered why, if he stopped making adjustments, his August was better than his April or July.

                      And I never used OPS, I used wRC+ (110). Or we could use what you used originally, wRAA. Either way, it still shows Nate with an above average offensive performance for August, his 3rd best month of the season.

                      Also, “his August wasn’t so great” is moving the goalposts.

                    • CubFan Paul

                      “a better than average month *for him*, and his *third best month* of the season”

                      All leading to suckiness

                    • Edwin

                      First off, we’re looking at offensive performance. Part of the reason he wasn’t super valuable last season was that his baserunning wasn’t that great, and his defense wasn’t that great. He didn’t suck last season, I just don’t think he’s that great either.

                      Second, wRC+ or wRAA are both adjusted to league average. So a wRC+ over 100 means he was above average compared to the league, not just his own numbers.

                      Whatever. Not much more point in this, if there ever was.

                    • Jason P

                      We’re comparing 1st half Schierholtz to 2nd half Schierholtz. Not Schierholtz to the rest of the league.

                      And his season certainly was not “sucky”

                    • CubFan Paul

                      “And his season certainly was not “sucky””

                      Sure, if you ignore the numbers I pointed out.

                    • Jason P

                      No, even if you fully consider the numbers you pointed out.

    • Funn Dave

      Agreed that he’s overrated but he’s sadly one of our best players that isn’t a long-term piece so it makes sense that they’d overhype his trade value.

  • Old Style

    Woo hoo!!

  • J. L.

    “The first round of Spring cuts could come as soon as the end of this week.”

    Should we expect the Sheryl Crow thing once again?

  • ChrisFChi

    I hate bud. Would rather have an Old Style than Bud or Bud light.

    • DocPeterWimsey

      I would rather have a beer than any of those.

      • Orval Overall

        ba-dum-dum!

        The problem with beer snobs today (and I have no idea if this is you personally) is that they’ve all become zealots to the church of IPAs. Beer is not considered “good” unless it’s excessively hoppy, bitter, and “complex” which is usually code for an overpowering taste. IPAs have become to beer what crossfit (excuse me, CrossFit) has become to workout routines.

        I can totally respect that some people really like that style of beer, just not when they that think that’s the only style of good beer, and that all others barely even deserve to share the name. IPA does not uniquely define what good beer is, anymore than Single Malt fans have cornered the market on good whisk(e)y. If I had my choice, I’d always go for a German or Belgian lager. But if my only choices were a cold Bud or Dale’s pale ale, I’m drinking the King 10 times out of 10.

        /rant over.

        • http://bleachernation.com woody

          It goes way beyond liking IPA. There has been a brewing tradition in England and Europe for centuries of brewing with quality ingredients. The macro brewed beer in the U.S. is brewed with 6-row barley which is inferior to the 2-row barley used in England and Europe. 6-row barley has more enzyme power to convert cheap starches like corn and rice, known as adjuncts into fermentable sugars. The amount of adjunct in a typical American lager is near 40% of the grist used in the mash. The development of this type of beer was a combination of the destruction of the brewing industry due to prohibition and rationing during the WW 2 years. The Bavarian purity law which is used throughout Germany forbids any other ingredients than barley malt, water, yeast and hops. Breweries like Sam Adams are key in bringing Americans quality beer and they are increasing their market share as the macro breweries like Budwieser continue to lose ground. This should be a source of pride for all beer drinkers. Personally an Old Style or a Bud, to me there is no difference as it is only kidney wash to me.

          • Orval Overall

            I’m with you half way. I’ve read the Bayerische Reinheitsgebot in alt deutsch. I’ve drank Ayinger in their beergarden within spitting distance of where it was brewed. My fridge is stocked right now with Augustiner Edelstoff. You could not pay me to drink a Sam’s Adams. It’s just a totally different (and to me, unpalatable) beer.

            Now, that said, I’m all in favor of quality-driven success stories like that and I’m glad lots of people like it. I just wish that for every “IPA” “Double IPA” “Triple IPA” etc. that I see in the craft beer section of most liquor stores, there was just one or two high quality lagers. They are very, very rare. Devil’s Backbone Vienna Lager is one notable exception that I’ve had recently, though I’m not sure if that’s available outside the mid-Atlantic area where I live.

        • DocPeterWimsey

          I am to beer snobs what Maggie Smith’s character in Downton Abbey is to social snobs. I do love a good IPA, but I also am very partial to good Marzens, bocks, stouts and other porters. Pilseners can be very good, but it is easy to go wrong with them. I don’t care for wheat beers (too sweet!) and I don’t like Belgian beers very much, although I can understand why some people do.

          • Orval Overall

            The Germans have an expression – “bier is brot.” (Beer is bread). Not sure I could ever get behind either one if it wasn’t made out of wheat.

            To each his own. And kudos on the Dowager Countess reference – it makes your point pretty exactly.

            • Orval Overall

              “is” = “ist”. Gott im himmel…

              • DarthHater

                Under the circumstances, I suppose a grammar nazi remark would be in poor taste. :-P

                • Orval Overall

                  well played

        • Karl Groucho

          I feel like this has more to do with “beer snobs” than beer snobs. Unfortunately, the “I just graduated college and now I drink Sierra Nevada instead of Bud Light” set is more vocal than full-on snobs, but the people I know who really know their stuff have rather eclectic taste. (Also more numerous, explaining the proliferation of IPAs on middlebrow store shelves as compared to other interesting styles. If only I could get a rauchbier at my local grocery store…)

        • http://www.friendly-confines.com hansman

          I have yet to find a wheat (I wonder how many wheat beer drinkers also avoid gluten-loaded bread products)/fruit beer I like, same with IPAs.

          When I want a good beer I go for Sam Adams (their Hazel Brown was amazing) or some sort of German-brewed dunkel (generally Warsteiner).

          When I don’t want to spend a lot…Natty Ice all the way.

        • Funn Dave

          I know what you mean. IPA’s are my favorite types of beers, but that doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate others as well. I toured a new Wisconsin brewery the other day, and even though two of their four beers were IPA’s, my favorite was the brown porter.

          • papa dunks

            It’s not altogehter new but was it New Glarus? My neighbors and I take turns driving over the border into Wisconsin for our weekly supply!

            • papa dunks

              Got so excited about New Glarus, I couldn’t spell properly! *altogether

              • Smitty

                New Glarus is good stuff, that is for sure!

      • ChrisFChi

        I’m a scotch whiskey drinker. At the park ill have a beer or two, as long as it isn’t bud. Just too sweet tasting for me

  • http://BleacherNation Barroof

    Yes !!! Bad baseball and warm Old Style. I’ve said it before I just hate Bud. Now if we could only get True Link Fence, Danley Garage, and Victory Auto Wreckers to put up some damn signs we might be able to sign an Oscar Zamora type tallent.

  • fossilhippie

    You should be able to buy Goose Island, Three Floyds and Bell’s at Wrigley

    • Danny Ballgame

      Goose is owned by InBev, who owns Bud. I’m sure that there will be some Honkers available, but little beyond that.

  • Patrick W.

    I rarely drink beer. I won’t fault anybody for drinking something they like that I don’t like. It’s like complaining when somebody puts ketchup on a hot dog. It’s their hot dog, not yours. I will never be able to taste what you taste or see what you see or hear what you hear or feel what you feel or smell what you smell. Do what you want. Drink Old Style, Drink Bud Light, drink ketchup, I don’t care, why do you care?

    • http://www.friendly-confines.com hansman

      What if I put ketchup in my Old Style?

      • Edwin

        Only if it’s for a small child. Then it’s ok.

        • http://www.friendly-confines.com hansman

          KETCHUP ALL THE HOT DOGS!!!!

          • Darth Ivy

            Go home, Hansman. You’re drunk.

      • Patrick W.

        If you want ketchup in your Old Style, enjoy.

  • brainiac

    old style is a terrible, wonderful, terrible beer that i can’t imagine not drinking at the park. :)

    sure i’d prefer a double trouble, two hearted, or matilda, but they can wait until my after-game trip to the local bars.

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  • fromthemitten

    I’m not a big drinker anymore, but Old Style is great in that you can get a 12 pack for under $10 and not have a nasty hangover in the morning like beers ending in “Ice” are wont to do

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