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lukewarm stoveIt was a disastrous week for a number of teams around baseball …

  • Patrick Corbin is the latest arm to go down with a UCL injury, meaning the 24-year-old lefty may wind up needing Tommy John surgery. Corbin emerged last year as the ace of the Diamondbacks staff, so losing him for the year would be a real bummer for Arizona. The good news is that the Diamondbacks have the depth to replace Corbin – Randall Delgado or even Archie Bradley could potentially step into the rotation – but they probably aren’t going to find a match for his production without going outside the organization. I know that gets folks wondering about Jeff Samardzija, in whom the Diamondbacks had interest several months ago, but I don’t see the D-Backs getting desperate.
  • For what it’s worth, Bruce Levine reports that the Cubs and Diamondbacks may indeed resume talks about Samardzija, so I guess we’ll see.
  • Having already lost Kris Medlen to Tommy John surgery (his second), the Braves are awaiting word on Brandon Beachy, who may also need his second Tommy John surgery. As Ken Rosenthal reports, though, even if Beachy also needs Tommy John surgery, the Braves plan to stick with what they have. After adding Ervin Santana, I’ve got to figure their budget is stretched at this point, anyway, and it’s not likely they’d consider swapping someone like Jason Heyward for Jeff Samardzija, which would be a little bit of robbing Peter to pay Paul at this point in the offseason (and, without the rest of the offseason to plan around the move, I’m not so sure the Cubs would want to make that swap anymore, either).
  • Then there’s Mets lefty Jon Niese, who left his recent Spring start early with elbow discomfort. He’s going for an MRI. Given that the Mets are a fringe contender (they did add significantly this offseason, though), it’s possible they’ll want to replace Niese externally. That said, I doubt they’ll want to give up too much, even if Niese is out for a significant period of time, given that they don’t look like a lock to be a playoff contender into June, let alone August and September.
  • The Oakland A’s were also bit by the arm injury bug, with both Jarrod Parker and A.J. Griffin headed to see the doctor after suffering forearm (Parker) and elbow (Griffin) issues. Parker, 25, will see Dr. James Andrews. The early returns are that Griffin has no structural damage, but could miss at least a month, and the expectation is that Parker will, at a minimum, start the season on the DL. It’s unclear what the A’s would do if they lose both arms for a protracted period of time. It isn’t usually the A’s MO to add out of desperation, but you never know with a competitive club like Oakland. They’ve got a fair bit of upper level pitching depth, though, so I’m not surprised we haven’t really heard much in the way of rumors at this point.
  • The injury bug wasn’t limited to pitchers, with word coming out of Detroit that studly defensive shortstop Jose Iglesias has been shut down with significant shin issues that could cost him most of the 2014 season (sounds like stress fractures in both legs – yikes). He’ll be evaluated further this week, but, assuming he’s out, the Tigers will be finding a replacement, one way or another. They could turn to the free agent market and try and scoop up Stephen Drew, who’s still looking for a job. They could try to swing a deal with the Mariners for jobless young infielder Nick Franklin (though the price would be high, and he’s more of a long-term piece than a fill-in). Or they could try and find a fill-in like, say, Darwin Barney, whose natural position is shortstop and who has been play a little of the position in Starlin Castro’s absence. The Cubs and Tigers have already been linked recently in Nate Schierholtz rumors, so it’s possible they’ve already been in communication about possible young players that could interest the Cubs. Let’s be clear, although Barney could have nice value as a fill-in, defensive-focused shortstop, the Cubs could not reasonable expect a substantial return. Packaged with Schierholtz? Maybe a really nice pitching prospect coming back, but that would require the Tigers to be pretty darn desperate.
  • Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski has indicated that they aren’t too interested in pursuing Drew and will instead go with internal options to replace Iglesias. I am highly skeptical.
  • Bob Elliott of the Toronto Sun has an interesting tidbit on how trade talks between the Cubs and Blue Jays went earlier this offseason regarding Jeff Samardzija. Recall, the Cubs originally demanded the Blue Jays’ top two pitching prospects – Aaron Sanchez and Marcus Stroman – plus another piece for Samardzija. That would be the kind of over-the-top return it would take for the Cubs to have moved Samardzija, but Elliott implies they would have considered less: “How serious were the Cubs? Serious enough that the Cubs were phoning asking former Blue Jays minor-league employees to rank the top Jays pitching prospects in order after Sanchez and Stroman, acclaimed as the Jays top pitching prospects. The question asked by Cubs people were in what order would you rank Sean Nolin, Daniel Norris, Roberto Osuna, Alberto Tirado and John Tilson? Their thought was maybe one of Sanchez-Stroman pairing plus another prospect could make the deal happen.” I suspect the Cubs probably would have wanted one of Sanchez/Stroman, and then at least one of that second list – otherwise, a deal probably would have happened. Do you trade Samardzija for Sanchez and Nolin? I think the Cubs can do a lot better at the Deadline, assuming they trade Samardzija at all, and it’s worth the roll of the first half dice.
  • http://www.teamfums.org MichiganGoat

    Great there goes my fantasy team

  • Blackhawks1963

    The ONLY way the Cubs would be interested in trading Samardzija to Arizona is inclusion of Archie Bradley in a deal. That is NOT going to happen, therefore speculation of a deal with Arizona is silly and non-productive.

    Toronto sucks. They are going to be awful. Why therefore would they trade Sanchez and Stroman for Samardzija right now? Answer is they wouldn’t.

    Lets see what happens around the July 31st trade deadline.

    • Jr 25

      The Jays suck huh? Obviously you didn’t follow them last year as the had a bunch of injuries. Bautista, EE, Lawrie, Reyes, Melky, Morrow, Hutchinson, Lind, Drabek and the list goes on of guys who were on the DL at some point last yr. And I guess you didn’t read the whole article as it said Cubs were looking at 2nd tier pitchers for Shark to go with either Sanchez or Stroman. And if AA gets desperate he will trade one or both of them as his job is on the line this year. Facts Son! And with these injuries Jays were still better than our Cubs.

      • Blackhawks1963

        Get back to me when the juggernaut Toronto Blue Jays finishin 5th place…again…in 2014.

        • Jr 25

          Actually get back to me when the Cubs don’t win a World Series again in 2014, 15, 16 and beyond!

  • Blackhawks1963

    IF Mike Olt can make the roster then I imagine Luis Valbuena or Darwin Barney could be dangled to a team like Detroit. I can’t imagine the return would be that good to merit moving either at this stage. Both have more value to the Cubs in my opinion.

    • http://bleachernation.com woody

      I doubt that Valbuena is being dangled to anyone. A utility guy with some pop with the bat from the left side is valuable.

  • http://www.bleachernation.com Luke

    Stroman and Norris, plus one more lower level arm/bat wouldn’t be a bad deal in my mind, but then I also consider Stroman a starter until proven otherwise (not all do).

    Stroman, Norrise, and Gose would very attractive, but probably not doable.

    • MattyNomad

      Hell, I’d take Stroman and Tirado when it comes to Shark. Any other piece would be a great add on but I’d bite if they dangled those two.

      • YourResidentJag

        As I’ve stated multiple times on here, Stroman, Tirado, and Jimenez would be a solid package. Future closer, C, and potential TOR. All things the Cubs needed. No sense in keeping Shark with the current state of the franchise.

    • Assman22

      @Luke…Cubs turned down similar offer back in late 2013…FO holding out for Sanchez inclusion…Cubs/Dbacks still not any closer on a Shark deal and not a great trade match any longer…

  • abe

    The Mets are loaded with pitching prospects and there is no way the would trade them for a pitcher. What they really need is hitting. I wouldn’t mind sending some of our infield glut for there pitchers..

  • Jon

    Strohman – THe Cubs aren’t trading Shark for a releiver.

    Cubs need to be patient and they can get a haul for Shark at the deadline. Shark will also be motivated as well. He wants a HOmer Bailey deal.

    We could also you know, pay him as well.

    • YourResidentJag

      Stroman plus Tirado is more than a reliever.

  • MattyNomad

    Not a single prospect is untradable. You just gotta have the right package in return. However, I agree on the notion that the DBacks don’t have the need for any of our deals. I don’t realistically see any chance that Bradley becomes a Cub. I would imagine, just like last year, that we get a decent surprise near the trade deadline. We have Veras, Villanueva, Murphy/Valbuena, Barney, and possibly Shark to say the least. I’m sure there is one team out of the 29 remaining in the MLB that would have a piece we can work a trade for.

  • davidalanu

    I think in the long run it’s going to be disappointing to have not made a deal with the DBacks while they still had Adam Eaton. He could have been a great piece to bring back. Young, controllable, plays a position of need, understands the value of getting on base, and has done it freakishly well in the minors.

    • C. Steadman

      I wanted Eaton real bad. I think the two offseason acquisitions I wanted the Cubs to make were trading for Eaton and signing Kazmir. The Diamondbacks got Trumbo in that deal though, so I don’t think the Cubs could’ve matched that. I think the diamondbacks were looking for power and they got it.

      • davidalanu

        True, but the Angels were looking for pitching, and got some from AZ and some from the White Sox. Don’t know if they’d have been interested in Shark or not.

        • C. Steadman

          Is this what you’re suggesting? Cubs are substituted in for the Sox in that trade
          Cubs get: Eaton
          Dbacks get:Trumbo
          Angles get:Shark

          • JB88

            That would have been a terrible trade for the Cubs.

      • YourResidentJag

        I wish both were here with Soriano still around for the year. I would have traded Wood for Eaton.

        • C. Steadman

          “I would have traded Wood for Eaton”

          I would have too in a heartbeat, but I think all three of the Sox, Diamondbacks, and Angels were looking for specific needs and it was a perfect match for all of them. Angels got two cost controlled SPs, Diamondbacks got their power hitter and Sox got a solid, young CF. I don’t see the Cubs fitting in that trade scenario…

          • YourResidentJag

            I do. The Angels wouldn’t have gotten two valuable arms this season in Wood plus Skaggs. GIven that they’re built to win now, why not?

            • Jon

              A GM like Kevin Towers probably values Trumbo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Travis Wood.

              • C. Steadman

                I believe Jag is suggesting Cubs/Wood replace the Sox/Santiago part of the trade, dbacks still get Trumbo and Angles still get Skaggs, but Wood goes to Angels instead of Santiago and Eaton comes to the north side instead of south

                • YourResidentJag

                  Correct.

            • C. Steadman

              Travis Wood will be making $4 million this year while Santiago will be making league minimum. I think that’s huge for the Angles who are approaching luxury tax(or are probably already across it). It could’ve worked i guess if cubs sent cash considerations…ugh, Eaton in a Sox uni will be a horrible sight

              • YourResidentJag

                Yep, Eaton playing for the Sox sucks. The Angels have already done themselves in as far I’m concerned because of replication with Puljos and Hamilton signings. I’d guess they’ll just have to suck it up and deal with that luxury tax things.

                • C. Steadman

                  Yeah, I think $3.5million dollar difference in salaries wouldve have been the deal breaker, otherwise Wood and Santiago are very similar in terms of productivity(27 vs 26 agewise respectively)

  • itzscott

    >> Having already lost Kris Medlen to Tommy John surgery (his second), the Braves are awaiting word on Brandon Beachy, who may also need his second Tommy John surgery. <<

    Note To Self:

    If I ever need Tommy John surgery, DON'T use the surgeon recommended by the Braves.

  • cubs4wsn2014

    Who would do a Shark/Soler for Archie Bradley, Stryker Trajan and jake Barrett trade? Seems pretty fair for both sides

    • C. Steadman

      Archie Bradley isn’t going to be traded. He’s as untradeable as a prospect can be. There are scouting reports out of ST saying that Archie is polished enough to be slotted in the Diamondback rotation already. I doubt they start him in the MLB right away, but he’s not far away…I don’t even know if a Shark/Soler for just Bradley would get it done.

    • Blackhawks1963

      Archie Bradley is not going to be traded. He’s a top 5 pitching prospect in baseball and has looked wonderful this spring. He’s got future ace written all over him.

  • Ivy Eater

    I really wouldn’t mind seeing the Tigers overpay for a second time this offseason.

  • David

    Would anyone trade the guys we got from Texas for Garza for Tampa Bay pitcher Archer? This looks like his Breakout year.

    • MattyNomad

      We already had Archer. Gave him away in the Garza trade

    • C. Steadman

      I personally wouldn’t. Archer is going to be good, but we’d give up Edwards, Olt, Arrieta, Grimm, and Ramirez(wow, just listing those names makes me wonder why the Rangers did that trade for a Garza rental).

      • http://www.bleachernation.com Luke

        Arrieta came from Baltimore with Strop.

        • C. Steadman

          yep, my bad…

      • Edwin

        From the Rangers POV, they probably felt Edwards was more of a potential RP than SP. If Grimm and Ramirez also turn into RP, then the trade is 3 RP prospects and a 3B with severe contact issues for a partial season of an average to above average MLB starter.

  • Edwin

    I don’t really see the A’s being much of a fit. There’s not much impact talent to try and aquire other than Addison Russell, who’s probably close to untouchable at this point. The next three top prospects are their list are 18, 19, and 20, so they’d be a couple seasons away or more.

  • mosconml

    You know, maybe Samardzija’s health is a little bit underrated here. Dude’s never had any bad injuries, as far as I can tell. That should mean something.

    • Jon

      Exactly.

    • C. Steadman

      I want to extend Shark…it’s not looking like the probable outcome though…

  • Darth Ivy

    Oh, Oh, the Mets might be looking to trade for a pitcher? I have a GREAT trade idea. But I wonder if BN regulars can guess what I’m thinking. Don’t let me down, guys.

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  • Diesel

    Bummer news for Oakland. Parker to have Tommy John surgery.

    • Jon

      Shark is going to get a f*** HAUL!!!! I want 2 top 20 prospects in baseball.

      • TulaneCubs

        LOL, they’ll be lucky to get one.

        But kudos to you for staking out an unrealistic expectation for a Shark trade so that you can now say you were disappointed in the eventual haul.

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