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sammy sosa kissSo, Sammy Sosa was not invited to the 100th Anniversary Game yesterday at Wrigley Field, just as he has not been invited to anything Cubs-related in his post-playing days, but, for some reason, this particular one caught on as a “snub.” I suppose you could argue that the 100th anniversary of Wrigley Field transcends “the Cubs,” and Sammy was obviously a huge part of a sizable chunk of Wrigley Field history. I can understand some folks having a problem with Sosa not even being invited.

But, you know the drill: there are lingering bad feelings about the PED allegations, the corked bat, the attitude issues, and the leaving-early-on-the-last-day thing. Cubs spokesperson Julian Green wouldn’t get into specifics with Jesse Rogers, but did say that, “There are some things Sammy needs to look at and consider prior to having an engagement with the team.” A source tells Rogers that that means some apologies to former teammates are in order.

I don’t really have much of an opinion on that part, because, if that’s where the Cubs are drawing the line, it seems pretty obvious to me that former players – ones with whom the Cubs do have a good relationship – are the ones holding up a reconciliation. (Well, and some potential stubbornness by Sosa.) I’ve got no visibility to that, so I won’t pretend to know what goes on behind the scenes, or to make judgments based upon my own guesswork. Maybe those players have very good reasons for wanting an apology. Maybe the Cubs have very good reasons for waiting until those amends take place.

Instead, for my part, I stick to what I said last month when the issue came up in a radio interview with Tom Ricketts:

In the end, hopefully everyone can just get over things – whether it’s Sammy, or the fans, or the organization – and repair the relationship. Sosa remains a huge figure in Dominican baseball culture, and it would be nice if the Cubs could start leveraging that. Even last year we heard that big-time signing Eloy Jimenez was pulled toward the Cubs because of his fondness for Sosa. There is also the value in having someone like Sosa meeting with – or even working with, say, in Spring Training – young latin players who are already in the organization, and are trying to develop and adjust.

If you’ve got a potential market advantage, you do whatever it takes to put yourself in a position to use it.

And, also, for me personally, I’m ready to see Sammy back in the fold because I’m ready to let all of the bad stuff go. So many of my best Cubs memories have Sammy in them, and I want to feel like I can enjoy them again.

Yup. That’s still where I land. As a fan, I’d like to see this patched up. As a person who tries to see all sides, I’m not sure I can castigate any of the Cubs, Sosa, or former players for the way things stand right now. There’s obviously a complicated relationship situation at play here.

So, yeah: whoever it is that’s holding this thing up, just, like, get over it or whatever.

  • chifords2000

    Woody for one seems to consider it water under the bridge. (BTW, where was he for the 100th celebration?) http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/_/id/15104/wood-in-favor-of-retiring-sosas-number

    • http://www.teamfums.org MichiganGoat

      Woody not being there was the only thing that really surprised me.

      • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

        Ya it really surprised me as well, on scouting assignment maybe?

        • http://www.teamfums.org MichiganGoat

          Or family conflict but you’d think yesterday was on his calendar.

        • http://www.teamfums.org MichiganGoat

          He could’ve just been humble and didn’t think he deserved to be in the field with all the greats… I’m sure we’ll find out soon enough.

          • Brocktoon

            Yeah you don’t wanna hog Gary Matthews and Ryan dempsters moment

            • http://www.teamfums.org MichiganGoat

              Yeah it’s doubtful but all we are doing is speculating. I’m asking questions ;) (cue Cartmen meme)

      • Voice of Reason

        What the hell did wood do besides pitch one great game? He was hurt more than healthy.

        Talk about those who used roids…..

        • Rebuilding

          Why do you post silly things like this? Wood did a hell of a lot more than pitch one good game. And he threw 99 MPH in high school so I doubt it was the roids

          • http://www.teamfums.org MichiganGoat

            Because this is what he does

          • Voice of Reason

            Rebuilding,

            You were the one who kept posting that Tanaka was coming to the cubs even after I repeatedly told you to forget about it and there was no way.

            Now you’re going to say I post silly things? Oh brother…..

            • Funn Dave

              So Rebuilding made one wrong prediction. That doesn’t invalidate all of his opinions from here on out.

            • ssckelley

              You keep a log of this stuff?

              • Picklenose

                He’s kind of like the NSA that way.

            • Rebuilding

              So that makes it about 99 me and 1 you? Good job

        • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

          Yes because almost 1,300 innings with almost 1,500 strikeouts with a 3.67 ERA is just AWFUL

          • http://www.teamfums.org MichiganGoat

            Thank you

            • Voice of Reason

              Well the cubs didn’t invite him. Guess that means they agree with me which would make your post silly?

              • http://www.teamfums.org MichiganGoat

                And again you deflect your first silly statement and redirect it into another point to bait argument. You’re quite good at it but it’s still silly and stupid. But stay on topic your point is silly because you said Wood only had one good game. You know it’s wrong you’re just being you.

              • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

                Who said the Cubs didn’t invite him? For a so called voice of reason, you sure make a lot of stuff up

                • http://www.teamfums.org MichiganGoat

                  This just Lou’s concept of reason… tis a silly place.

                • Brocktoon

                  The cubs did invite him and I believe he was advertised to be there but wound up backing out last minute

                  • Voice of Reason

                    Wood was a good starter but so was mike Morgan and mike bielecki….. wood didn’t stay healthy. Wood wasn’t worthy of standing next to the cub greats.

                    • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

                      He is a Cubs great. Just the fact that he was a part of 5 Cubs playoff appearances (How many Cubs ever can say that?), including striking out 266 hitters in 2003 and saving 34 ballgames in 2008

                    • Brocktoon

                      There were like 3 guys out there yesterday more worthy than wood

                    • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

                      Sorry 4 playoff appearances

                    • Brocktoon

                      Nitpick, 4 playoff appearances. 98-03-07-08. I always count 04 in my head too because wtf 04 team how do you not make the playoffs???

                    • Voice of Reason

                      You’re further proving my point that wood doesn’t belong with the greats.

                      Was on 5 playoff teams? One year saved 34 games which is no where near a cub record? Just one year struck out 266?

                      That’s not a resume of a cub great.

                    • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

                      That’s not the resume of an All-time MLB great. That is the resume of a Cubs great. What do you think this organization is the New York Yankees or something?

                    • Edwin

                      He’s obviously a fan favorite though, and he played a decent part of why the team in 1998 was so much fun to watch, and why the 2003 team was so much fun to watch. He battled back from injuries to become a decent RP, and was a contributor to the 2007 and 2008 Cubs. Since 1960 he is 8th in IP for the Cubs with 1279. His ERA- of 86 is 4th all time amongst Cubs pitchers since 1960 with over 1000 IP.

                      He’s obviously not a HOF, but as a Cub, he’s easily a fan favorite.

                    • Medicos

                      Don’t forget the immortal pitcher MIke Harkey—DBacks pitching coach.

                    • gnjaxon

                      Just out of curiosity….

                      How many playoff games did the Cubs greats in attendance win?

                      Wood has more than ALL OF THEM COMBINED.

                    • Voice of Reason

                      Wins don’t matter.

        • esruc

          He just played a key role on 4 playoff teams and turned down bigger and better offers to return to the rebuilding team to finish his career.

      • ssckelley

        Rick Sutcliffe was another I was surprised to not see there.

  • Edwin

    I think it’s a little strange that Green puts so much of the blame on Sosa.

    • http://www.teamfums.org MichiganGoat

      Yeah it’s got to be something else (former players make sense) I don’t think anybody from the front office besides Crane was there for Sammy’s final game. So it can’t be an organization thing since they are all new since him. Maybe Sammy is demanding something they are willing to do yet like give him a statue, retire his number, or call him greatest ever. It might just be Sammy’s ego.

      • esruc

        Every interview he gives, he acts like he’s shocked they have retired his number.

  • ame1908

    [img]http://www.trbimg.com/img-504fc2bc/turbine/cs-sosagallery_flag/425[/img]

    • ced landrum

      That was a pretty special moment. I can still remember it like yesterday.

  • Brocktoon

    The cubs shunning Sosa continues to be an embarrassment

    • http://www.teamfums.org MichiganGoat

      Well he could be shunning them

      • Brocktoon

        He wasn’t invited.

        • http://www.teamfums.org MichiganGoat

          How do we know he hadn’t been but is having stipulations and being stubborn and full of hubris? We can’t somebody refusing to do something.

          • Brocktoon

            Because the cubs said they didn’t invite him due to some bizarre need for him to apologize for everything he did for the cubs?

            • http://www.teamfums.org MichiganGoat

              Yes that is what they have to say we have no idea what the issue really is it could be on both sides is my point.

              • Brocktoon

                If the cubs were looking to make their PR case for not having one of the greatest cubs of all time around why would they lie to save his face?

                • http://www.teamfums.org MichiganGoat

                  That’s a good point I just don’t think all the blame is on one side solely.

                  • DarthHater

                    Life is too short. Forgive, forget, and enjoy.

                    • DarthHater

                      The Sith Lord Creed. :-D

                    • http://www.friendly-confines.com hansman

                      Life is too short because you guys keep killing everyone.

                    • DarthHater

                      And we enjoy it. After which we forgive ourselves and forget about it.

      • Jojo1691

        I don’t think so, he has said multiple times (at least 3 that he would like to come back) and even today:

        http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/10833756/sammy-sosa-sit-make-amends-chicago-cubs

        “I think there is something that has to be resolved” he told ESPNDeportes. “If there is something to clarify, we will sit down and clear it up. Time has given me the maturity to reflect upon many things, including knowing that one side doesn’t have to be right all the time.”

        “I should have been there; I would have liked to have been there,” Sosa said about the celebration. “The Cubs know where to find me and I hope to have the chance to clear up any misunderstanding.”

        Sounds like they just need to sit down and figure everything out. If Wood is cool with him then I can’t imagine anyone else from that “era” that is still around has real issues.

        • http://www.teamfums.org MichiganGoat

          This is what had to be said the truth will never be known and I’m not saying it’s his fault but it’s as good a guess as anything right now.

          • Brocktoon

            I guess I don’t understand why you’d doubt both the cubs and Sosa’s account of the situation.

            • http://www.teamfums.org MichiganGoat

              Geez why would we doubt anything a public player says… What a silly idea ;)

    • Picklenose

      Why? Seems to me that Sosa did a pretty good job of becoming an embarrassment all by himself. We don’t need to be hateful, but we don’t need to embrace him either.

      • http://www.teamfums.org MichiganGoat

        Oh the time to hold grudges is done, somebody is just being stubborn. And he did plenty to be celebrate with everyone else from that generation.

        • Picklenose

          If, whatever the hurt feelings are get worked out and Sosa is brought back, I will politely cheer for him. But if they aren’t, I won’t really worry about it either. He did some great things on the field, but he did some pretty crappy things on and off the field as well. No grudge, just not the admiration I had for him at one time.

          • Brocktoon

            What were the crappy things?

            • Picklenose

              I think other posts on here have captured many of them. To be honest, Sosa’s pretending not to understand/speak english before Congress really destroyed any remaining respect I had for him.

              • Edwin

                I don’t have an issue with that. English is his second language, and he was in front of a fairly high authority. He didn’t “pretend” not to speak english, he made a smart legal decision.

              • Brocktoon

                He used an interpreter and answered every question. I can speak some Spanish but if I got called before a witch hunt in front of Me I an congress you can be damn sure I’m not answering the questions for myself in my non-native tongue.

                Everyone thought it was so hilarious when Sosa did interviews and you couldn’t understand a word he said and they’d primarily exist of baseball been good to me. But you go before congress? You answer every fucking question in queens English boy!!

                • Brocktoon

                  Me I an =Mexican

                • Picklenose

                  You clearly love Sosa and I don’t want to ruin your admiration for him. Best Wishes.

                  • Brocktoon

                    It’s not about that, it’s about looking for an honest dialogue. Do you feel non-English speakers aren’t entitled to interpreters when appearing before congress?

                    • fromthemitten

                      many of my student’s parents are ESL and they speak pretty good English but whenever I answer the phone the parents ask if they can speak to someone who can speak Mandarin

                    • Picklenose

                      I want him to have an interpreter and any other aid he needs to answer questions fully and honestly. He used the language barrier to dodge answering fully.

                    • Brocktoon

                      I’m trying to hunt down a transcript but my recollection is he answered every question asked of him

                    • Brocktoon

                      Found it. I don’t see Sosa being evasive at all. He answered every question asked of him

                      http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0503/17/se.01.html

                    • Picklenose

                      I skimmed through the transcript, and looked at some snippets http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftq_IwlHmN0 of the testimony on you tube. I am wrong about using the language barrier to avoid answering. However, he was every bit as vague as McGwire, and did lie – he denied every taking any PED, yet tested positive twice. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/17/congress-reviewing-sammy_n_217032.html

                    • Brocktoon

                      He was vague in responding to questions that were general about all of baseball. Wasn’t his place to speak for baseball nor was it likely he knew.

                      He also didn’t fail 2 drug tests

                    • Picklenose

                      I miss read, he failed one test two years before he denied ever taking the drugs. He still lied.

                    • Brocktoon

                      Well his name was on a leaked List published by the NYT David Ortiz was on this list and has been exonerated as a false positive. A list of names from confidential tests leaked by the NYT is not sufficiency evidence of failing a drug test, and obviously isn’t evidence for perjury

            • fossilhippie

              What were the crappy things?

              The corked bat, the roids, taking over the clubhouse with his boom box, leaving the park before the games were over, coming to the park late and not even putting on his uniform, being a bad example for all the kids on the team, lying about all of the above and that’s just off the top of my head.

              I think the team would rather invite Dave Kingman to the party than Sammy.

              • Kyle

                We’re gonna rip Sosa for leaving the park before the game was over, but beg to hire a manager who quit in the middle of a season?

                • Brocktoon

                  Before GAMES were over Kyle. Guy did it pretty much every day

                  • Kyle

                    Well that’s just made up

                    • DarthHater

                      The Cubs should be thanking Sosa. Whenever he left early, he helped them lose and thereby earn a better draft pick!

                    • jp3

                      Boom!!! That’s our motto this year and the next few!!! Lose for better draft picks;)

              • Brocktoon

                Yeah I can’t get that image of Sosa strolling in at the 3rd inning in shorts and a t shirt. What the he are you talking about?

              • Brocktoon

                Who knows what Jose Nieves could’ve become if not for Sosa

              • Edwin

                wait, when did playing a boom box too loud become a banishable offense?

                Funny how nobody gave a shit about any of this until 2004.

                • fossilhippie

                  Not a banishable offense – a bashable one.

      • Brocktoon

        Yeah, it sure was embarrassing when he was the best player on the team for a decade. Sure was embarrassing when he made the franchise into a phenomenon.

        • http://www.teamfums.org MichiganGoat

          Agreed!

        • fossilhippie

          He and a pharmaceutical made up the best player on the team.

          That’s cheating in my book.

          • Brocktoon

            Please provide link to this pharmaceutical company. Sounds like quite a scoop you got there

            • fossilhippie

              http://www.flintstonesvitamins.com/home/index.php

              If you think his body changed that much over a few years and his skin got those horrible bumps by itself, then you’re kidding yourself. And no, I don’t have a link to McGwire’s juice either. Sorry.

              • Brocktoon

                So you work better than the tests MLB administer apparently. They should’ve hired you to figure this out, woulda been much cheaper, what with the scientific JUST LOOK AT HIM test

              • Brocktoon

                Do you understand what the connection between steroids and acne is? Testosterone. Do you understand that for Sosa’s entire career there was a myriad of legal testosterone supplements he could have been on, supplements that happen to help you build muscle mass?

                • half_full_beer_mug

                  Yeah, but like those are banned now, so he’s a cheater man ;)

                  • Brocktoon

                    It’s ultimately what makes the PED Hysteria so silly. Guys who want to get bigger can get bigger and they can find a way to do it all under the confines of the law. A player can literally go from “local hero I want my son to be just like him” to “dirty stinking cheater don’t show your face in public again” all in one offseason on the whims of what is and isn’t on baseballs banned list. Literally nothing would change beyond a substance being added to the lost.

                    Before any steroid admission everyone held andro against McGwire because it was made illegal in 99 or 2000 and he was using it in 98. I mean how do people not see how insane that is??

    • Napercal

      Mark Grace wasn’t there either. I know he’s had issues, and I’m not exactly his biggest fan, but ne was a huge part of the Cubs in the 90′s.

      • Spoda17

        Agreed

      • Brocktoon

        If keeping Sosa away is what it takes to keep that jackass out of Wrigley I may need to reconsider my stance

      • fromthemitten

        Mark Grace is a minor league hitting instructor for the Diamondbacks, he couldn’t make it because he had to work, I’m guessing it was the same with Maddux who works with the Rangers

        • esruc

          Dawson works for the Marlins and he was there.

          • fromthemitten

            I don’t know about Maddux, he might have some beef with the front office due to his departure to the Rangers, but Dawson is a “assistant to the President” while Gracie is an actual coach… I’m guessing Samson let Dawson have time off wheras Grace is an active coach and probably doing extended spring training.

        • Brocktoon

          I just assumed he couldn’t blow a .08 to get his car started

    • Orval Overall

      couldn’t agree more.

  • Voice of Reason

    So the cubs want Sammy to admit to something that the cubs knew about while he was doing it?

    Fucking hypocrites. Same thing with selig. Selig says what arod did was bad for the game yet all along selig and the owners knew they were juicing.

    This is why everyone needs to turn the page and stop dwelling on it. Baseball needs to welcome all the juicers who retired back. They are all to blame.

  • Travis

    As many of my fondest Cubs memories involve Sosa, I too want this to get resolved. Hopefully we see him back sooner rather than later.

  • http://www.teamfums.org MichiganGoat

    And for the record I support Sammy, Barry and anyone else that hits 600HR to be in the HOF, all this moral superiority is the real crime. He played we embraced him, MLB embraced him, the world celebrated him, and EVERYONE suspected without a doubt these players were juicing. But know we banish them? Hypocritical bullshit.

    • Orval Overall

      To me the HOF argument is different than “moral superiority.” It’s not “drugs are bad, you did drugs, you are bad.”

      To me, it’s more that the criteria for judging admission to the HOF is having exceptional performances; these drugs artificially contributed to the exceptionalism; therefore I can’t say that your performance meets the criteria for selection.

      I admit it’s a hard line to draw and there are people who say we shouldn’t be drawing it. But without the steroids he allegedly used, is Sosa an exceptional player or just a pretty good one? Without the mid-career turnaround in Toronto (allegedly fueled by roids), is Clemens one of the greatest pitchers of all time or just a very good one that got out of shape and drifted into mediocrity at the end of his Boston run, and is that good enough for HOF selection? Because that is unknowable, I’m comfortable saying they disqualified themselves.

      • Brocktoon

        But now you’re DQing Sosa on speculation that he used steroids. And you’re not accounting for the fact that many of his opponents may have been on them

        • fossilhippie

          Sammy the Cheat once told reporters the changes in his body were a result of Flintstones vitamins, and got a wink and a nod in return. Everyone knew what he was doing, but Sammy was a good story back then, and let’s face it, reporters are a lazy lot and didn’t want to kill the golden goose and make the kids who idolized him cry themselves to sleep realizing their favorite Cub was a lying cheat.

          Besides, I don’t want to demean anybody who played the game honest by glorifying a cheat.

          • Brocktoon

            Agreed, we need to stop glorifying hank amphetamines aaron

            • mjhurdle

              that connection is thin at best, for multiple reasons.

              And even if Aaron was a habitual amp user and amps helped hit HRs, what does it have to do with Sosa? Does someone else also doing something bad make doing something bad good?
              If we all just murder enough people, murder is good!!
              hurray logic!!!

              • Brocktoon

                The connection is Aaron stating that he tried amphetamines. What it has to do with Sosa is the hilarious hypocrisy among the PED zealots that demonize Sosa without a failed test and canonize Aaron with an admission. That grab their pitchforks for Sosa leaving a meaningless game 162 he wasn’t playing in while getting hard for a meatball who walked out on his team in he middle of a season.

              • Brocktoon

                And “if amps help hit HRs” is that the new standard of what’s cheating? If it helps you hit HRs?

          • Brocktoon

            Makes me sick to see fergie cocaine Jenkins out there every year. WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO TRLL MY KIDS!!!??

  • itzscott

    If I’m Sosa, I’m thinking that the Cubs need me more than I need them so F ‘em!

    • Funn Dave

      Neither side needs the other. Why does not inviting Sammy have to be a snub?

      • Brocktoon

        Because of who was invited?

  • mjhurdle

    Don’t really care that Sosa wasn’t there. I wouldn’t have been upset if he was either. I don’t hate Sammy or care enough to want him to stay away, but he definitely isn’t a cherished player anymore. he is a JAG now imo.

  • Funn Dave

    Here’s a thought: let’s just stop idolizing former ballplayers altogether. Once they retire, they can go get regular jobs like everyone else. Sosa’s spent more than enough time in the limelight as it is.

    • ssckelley

      That is a thought, a bad one, but a thought nonetheless.

      • itzscott

        How about this one then….. let’s just stop idolizing former Cub ballplayers altogether until they’re part of a team that won a World Series.

        In which case they would’ve earned the idolatry.

        • ssckelley

          That is even worse than Dave’s.

          • http://www.teamfums.org MichiganGoat

            Yeah that’s just a horrible idea, I guess Santo, Banks, Sandberg should be never mentioned again.

  • newsguy23

    Sosa was nothing but a cheater who idolized himself and obviously was a dick so his teammates hated his ass. So I have no desire to see him back. Mr. Bud allowed all the steroid crap to bring back the fans and he is to blame as well for the egomaniacs,

    • Funn Dave

      Actually, the fans are more to blame for the egomaniacs than Bud is. When thousands of people idolize you and follow your every move, it’s hardly surprising if you end up idolizing yourself.

      • newsguy23

        Interesting Dave. So I do good at something when I am cheating, people love me and I idolize myself. I am pretty sure most people are not like that. Pretty sure most are cheaters like Sosa

  • hawkboy64

    Just say yr sorry Sammy to those former players u offended the dis respect yu showed to the uniform apologize is all u should need to do until then stay gone you most likely
    Cheated def was all about you and not the team so say yr sorry or stay away.

    • Brocktoon

      What is he apologizing for exactly?

      Dear ex-teammates,

      Sorry I carried your asses for a decade.

      Sincerely,
      Sammy

      • http://www.bleachernation.com Brett

        It wouldn’t make sense to apologize for something positive he did. You apologize for bad things you did.

        Hope that helps clear up the nature of apologies for you.

        • Brocktoon

          Then again I need to hear what he has to apologize for. Sorry for being a professional athlete with an ego? Signed 90% of athletes?

          • jason23

            He walked out on his team! I don’t care how big your ego is you just cant do that.

            • Brocktoon

              I take it we’ll be unretiring Ryne Sandberg’s number any day now

              • jason23

                to be honest i wish the would get over it. cause i did enjoy watching Sammy play! both sides need to just get over themselves and patch it up.

          • newsguy23

            So now you are speaking for 90% of athletes. Interesting

        • Funn Dave

          I thought it was funny.

  • http://bleachernation.com woody

    So if we had invited Sammy, which Sammy would have showed up, the white one or the blck one?

    • Edwin

      Lame.

  • greekcubsfan

    Sosa is surprised the Cubs haven’t retired his number yet. Really?

    • Brocktoon

      Yeah, after being here for 13 years he should’ve locked up on how petty this organization thre media who covers them, and its fans are

      • greekcubsfan

        So you think his number should be retired?

        • Brocktoon

          5 years ago. His statue should’ve been unveiled yesterday.

          • greekcubsfan

            I see you asked for extra sarcasm in your coffee this morning…

            • Brocktoon

              I’m being serious

              • greekcubsfan

                Ok, how many non-hall of fame players have statues?

                • Brocktoon

                  2 of the 4 statues outside if Wrigley are of people who weren’t in the hall of fame at the time

                  • greekcubsfan

                    I said players

                    • Brocktoon

                      Well depends on how you read it. They have 2 statues built for guys who were not hall of fame players. One an old senile drunk, the other a guy who belonged for years but wasn’t inducted until after he died. Here’s hoping it doesn’t take that long for Sammy

        • Voice of Reason

          Who is the cubs all time home run leader? That same player is #8 overall?

          That player should have his number retired.

          If the argument is that he cheated then put a statue of him and selig at Clark and Addison with Sosa bent over and selig shooting him up with roids.

          • greekcubsfan

            Forget the fact that he may have or have not (have!) cheated, he acted like a spoiled brat and thought he deserved to be treated like royalty and now that arrogance is costing him. Eventually he’ll get his number retired but right now I’m enjoying the “shun Sosa” tour.

          • DarthHater

            “If the argument is that he cheated then put a statue of him and selig at Clark and Addison with Sosa bent over and selig shooting him up with roids.”

            Finally, an actual voice of reason. ;-)

  • Ill see you at Sluggers.

    I grew up as a little kid in the 90′s in Chicago and Sosa was always my favorite player. That 9th inning homer he hit in Game 1 of the 2003 NLCS I’ll never forget. It still brings chills to me when I think about it. I really hope he comes back soon. I love the Cubbies, and I love all of you Cubs fans!

    • http://becomehealthier.com drcub1908

      That was one the greatest homeruns in Cubs history..I still love Sammy…

  • Blackhawks1963

    Sam-ME Steroid is dead to me. And to most Cub fans to be honest. I for one would be disgusted and non-happy if the Cubs welcomed Sosa back in any sort of a role.

    • ced landrum

      I think you are overestimating the hate of most cubs fans. Most could care less to be honest.

      • Funn Dave

        Yup.

  • Kyle

    I’m not sure what’s less stunning.

    The Cubs’ business side acting ham-handedly or a hispanic player having trouble with Cubs fans.

  • Kyle

    What exactly did Sosa do that he needs to apologize for?

    (my next question is gonna be was it worse than the long list of stuff beloved white players have done, but we’ll save that one in reserve)

    • Funn Dave

      Race has no role in this story.

      • Kyle

        Of course not. It’s just a big ol’ coincidence that we keep running hispanic players out of town.

        • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

          Yes because Mark Grace is a regular part of the organization.

          • Kyle

            If he wanted to be, he would be. Fans love him. They’d welcome him with open arms.

            • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

              Keep telling yourself that. Given his history, It’s pretty safe to assume this organization wants nothing to do with him.

              • Kyle

                Even if that were true, disliking a white player (two if you count Todd Hundley) does not negate the disturbing trend of Hispanic players being villified for things that white players skate on.

                Starlin Castro, you’re next.

                • http://www.friendly-confines.com hansman

                  Starlin Castro already has half the fan base ready to ride him out of town.

                • mjhurdle

                  totally agree. Remember that one time the white guy interfered with the hispanic player catching the ball, and then every Cub fan started showering unfairly on the hispanic guy and ran him out of town while totally letting the white guy slide?
                  I think ESPN even made a 30 for 30 about it.

                  • Kyle

                    Yep. That totally disproves it.

                    • mjhurdle

                      well, im not sure my one weak example does anything but negate your one weak example. I wasn’t trying to “disprove” anything, just laughing at the trolling

                    • Kyle

                      If you want, we can do another round of “Compare Carlos Zambrano and Ron Santo’s incident lists”

                    • mjhurdle

                      nah, i don’t have the time, although i am sure there are absolutely no independent variables that might make straight comparisons difficult in that circumstance.

                      i’ll just wait a couple days until your opinions change again, and then we will be fine.

                    • Kyle

                      That’s actually a pretty reasonable plan.

                • DarthHater

                  “the disturbing trend of Hispanic players being villified for things that white players skate on. Starlin Castro, you’re next.”

                  How many white players have not been vilified for having a season OBP of .284?

                  • Brocktoon

                    Don Kessinger

                • ssckelley

                  Was Ian Stewart hispanic?

                  Really odd you bring up race when the most famous Cub of all time Ernie Banks is nicknamed “Mr Cub”. Another famous Cub is Fergie Jenkins, who’s parents were from Barbados. He was caught with cocaine and weed but nobody seems to bring that up or hold it against him. Or is it just hispanics we run out of town?

  • http://bleachernation.com woody

    Really they need to have a hall of shame for A-rod, Bonds, Sosa etc. And once we get them inducted we can put Selig in there too.

    • Brocktoon

      And Hank “amphetamines” Aaron

  • bonger0493

    Sign Sammy to a contract. He can be out RF in 2015

  • Medicos

    Whata waste of time. There’s gotta to be something better to do than watch the Cubs play baseball. Oh wait, I just forget we’re driving to Milwaukee tomorrow afternoon for the 7:10 pm game against Aram, Garza, and the Brewers tomorrow.

    • http://bleachernation.com woody

      There is always entertainment value to watching a bully slap a ninety pound weakling around.

  • http://www.ehanauer.com clark addison

    For most of his 13 years, Sosa was the primary reason to follow the Cubs. He put more asses in the seats and made the owners more money than any other individual player in Cubs history. He always gave it all on the field and at bat.

    Why can’t we all get along?

  • http://BleacherNation blewett

    I think I have a solution. We need to get rid of the players who suck and bring in some who don’t.

  • Eternal Pessimist

    “And, also, for me personally, I’m ready to see Sammy back in the fold because I’m ready to let all of the bad stuff go.”

    I agree Brett…the moment he says the real apologies that he needs to to all the people deserving.

    • Brocktoon

      Who does he need to address his apologies to?

    • Edwin

      I don’t think Sammy Sosa owes me anything.

  • Eternal Pessimist

    Some might argue Sammy owes the fans an apology (some of the PED abusers did apologize, but more did not…possibly for legal reasons). I don’t like rooting for cheaters, and finding out he was one of them took away a lot of the magic…in my opinion it is a black eye on every organization that employed them.

    Sounds like Woods needs an apology. Every teammate that had to listen to his music blasting music because he was the “chosen one” deserves an apology. It sounds like their are others. It sounds like the ownership is ready to welcome him back when he does this. Question is, will he be man enough or is he unwilling to accept responsibility.

    • Brocktoon

      Judging by the link provided at the beginning of these comments it doesn’t sound like WOOD feels the need for any apology.

      Personally, I can’t watch another braves game until hank Aaron writes me a hand-signed letter telling me amphetamines are bad

  • Cheese Chad

    Not weighing an opinion on who’s right or wrong with regards the their relationship, I think the Cubs made the right decision on not inviting him. Not inviting him makes it a story after the fact. Inviting him makes it a story about the event that isn’t fair to the greatness of Wrigley Fields’ 100 year anniversary. The story should be about Wrigley and not Sosa.

  • renegade4196

    These bitches love Sosa

  • Diehardthefirst

    Sammy not there cause they couldn’t find hat to fit his PED size

    • Brocktoon

      So it’s your theory that he took a bunch of PEDs after he retired causing his head to grow beyond the size of what he wore as a player?

      Or were you just making a terrible joke? Got any hilarious towel jokes while you’re at it?

  • CUB5

    It seems I’m on the other side of this disagreement, but I’m happy Sammy wasn’t there. There would have been too much focus on him and not Wrigley. Though maybe that would have been good with them blowing the win?? He’s a distraction, and the Cubs rightly haven’t forgotten about his antics and the way he left the organization.

    PEDs aside (I do think he juiced big time), he’s only borderline HOF. If he wasn’t batting, then he was a liability as he got much worse as he juiced. I’m surprised so many on here say that his roids numbers were the reason they watched the Cubs for 10 years. I enjoyed the solid bat and defense of Mark Grace much more.

    It would be nice to see Sammy SLINK back into the organization with his tail between his legs like McGuire and Bonds did. I love how humble they’ve become after being named on all of the reports…

    • Edwin

      Apparently, it was a distraction either way.

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