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jeff samardzija gatorade showerSpeaking today (just moments ago, actually) with Waddle and Silvy on ESPN 1000, Chicago Cubs GM Jed Hoyer addressed the constant drumbeat of Jeff Samardzija trade rumors, and declined to say that it’s a given that he’ll be traded.

That seems like the obvious thing to say – and it’s technically true – but Hoyer followed up with a discussion of extension conversations with Samardzija. Hoyer said that the two sides have been in communication about an extension going back as far as two years, and those conversations are ongoing. Hoyer called it a “pretty consistent dialogue.”

He didn’t get into specifics, and I wouldn’t read too much into this (because, as always, he emphasized that they’re keeping things in-house). But it’s interesting to hear the GM openly say that the Cubs and Samardzija’s representatives are in contact regularly about the possibility of marrying up on a long-term deal.

I wouldn’t say that it’s likely that a deal gets done – Samardzija has been very candid about his reservations about signing on long-term, and there is also obviously a gap in the dollars – but, hey, you never know. A reasonable extension is the best outcome here, even if it isn’t the most likely one.

All in all, though, I’d still look for a deluge of Samardzija trade rumors come June and July.

  • SenorGato

    Just hurry up and do something. I expect him to be traded, I guess. The obsession is with a top pitching prospect but if they can land a top catching prospect…

    This also came out today:

    John Manuel: Scouting source has been told @hoff_23 will not pitch this weekend for East Carolina. Sounds like definite setback for #mlbdraft prospect

    • jp3

      Sweet babyJesus please don’t draft Hoffman, other than he hasn’t been lights out this year, he’s now had arm problems. We don’t need another “he’s got a great arm but unfortunately long term he’s probably a Pen guy” guy. At some point a couple of these project able arms have to be heading to the rotation.

  • Jon

    If a trade HAS to happen, I’m still holding out hope for a different type of trade Shark for Jason Heyward. Heyward is actually struggling this year and his relationship with the Braves appears just as toxic as the Cubs and Samardzija’s.

    The caveat is, the Cubs would need permission to negotiate and execute a long term deal with Heyward and his agent before the trade is commenced. But the Cubs would get that nice big left handed bat to balance out all the top prospects that are right handed.

    • Brocktoon

      If we’re not willing to pay Samardzija fair market value, what makes you think we’d pay a struggling Heyward what he’d get?

      • Jon

        My fantasyland. Where the Cubs go after really good players and try and win at the big league level.

        • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

          Hell it’s completely possible for the Cubs to either sign Shark or trade him for prospects and then sign when he most likely makes it to the open market.

          • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

            *sign Heyward

        • Jon

          Anyways, Heyward and Stanton are the two biggest names that are going to be available (either straight up FA’s or via trade) in the next 2-3 years. If Theo was true to his word and they are going to pocket the Tanaka money for future opportunities, than at this point, it should be a chess match, with every move made in consideration of doing whatever it takes to get one of these guys.

      • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

        Because Heyward is 24 with fantastic on base skills

        • Brocktoon

          Who has shown no desire to extend beyond arbitration with his hometown Braves team who is extending all their best young players past arbitration.

          • Chad

            In atlanta rumors are that is a one sided thought process.

            • Brocktoon

              That the Braves have no desire to extend their 24 year old leadoff hitter?

              • Chad

                Actually yes, they have put their money elsewhere. Also, the inconsistencies are an issue.

                • Brocktoon

                  My understanding was they applied that money elsewhere after they got nowhere in discussions with Heyward.

      • Chad

        Who says they won’t pay Shark fair market value and Shark just values him in the ranks of Homer Bailey and Tanaka? And who knows what it would take to extend Heyward. Might not be as high you think, who knows. Heyward will not be a brave when his contract is up. They have extended everyone but him and they don’t have the $ to give him the deal he likely wants. Bit of a gamble for the cubs though as his career has been pretty up and down. Mostly due to injuries though I guess. And you never know Braves seem to be heading in the wrong direction for that trade to happen before December.

        • Brocktoon

          “Who says they won’t pay Shark fair market value”

          Every rumor about what the Cubs have offered?

          If the Braves trade Heyward this year, there is no reason for them to be pursuing pitching in return, let alone one who will be a free agent after 2015.

          • Chad

            It depends what you decide market value is. If you think it is of an ace like I’m sure Shark does or as a solid #2 like the cubs do, and if you base it on buying 1 or 2 arb years and how many years of FA. The cubs have offered market value for what they think Shark is, but probalby not what shark thinks he is.

        • http://BleacherNation blewett

          Samardzija has pitched a hell of a lot better than Homer Bailey this year.

          • half_full_beer_mug

            Which has very little to do with anything when it comes to extension talks.

      • http://www.friendly-confines.com hansman

        Well the fair market value you are using assumes that he is a free agent.

        Considering the Cubs control his rights through next year…that isn’t fair market value.

        It’s probably more than 5/55 before this season but not THAT far.

    • Kyle

      Braves say no.

    • Brocktoon

      And the Braves have 5 starters with ERAs of 3.00 or less, and they just got Mike Minor and Gavin Floyd back.

      And going forward they have Kris Medlen and Brandon Beachy for 2015.

      • Chad

        Maybe on Medlen and Beachy after 2 TJS. And you never know. They had Jurrjens under control for a long time too and he has disappeared into a minor league FA.

        • Brocktoon

          Jurrjens never had the peripherals to backup his surface numbers.

          Those 2 would be supplements to Teheran, Minor, Wood, Hale, and top prospect Lucas Sims.

          • SenorGato

            Off the top of my head only Minor and Santana in their rotation have thrown full seasons on a contender. It’s stressful, probably more stressful than a rookie, Hale, and Harang can handle at this point. If they think Teheran is a super ace then sure, but that’s a big gamble and I’d still look to land a pitcher.

            OTOH their system kinda sucks.

            • Brocktoon

              Floyd was on the ’08 Sox as well. And I don’t think Jeff Samardzija is going to help out on the subject of pitched a full year on a contender…

              • SenorGato

                You’re right he hasn’t, but his stuff plays more like a guy who has than someone like David Hale or Harang at this point in his career. Throw in that Wood and maybe Teheran will have to be babied a little at the end and Samardzija makes tons of sense for them.

                • SenorGato

                  Floyd’s probably fine if you’re counting on him as a 5th starter.

                • Brocktoon

                  Teheran threw 185 innings last season. There is no need to baby him. Wood threw 140. With 7 starting pitchers, they can easily give him the rest required to stretch him for a full season.

                  • SenorGato

                    I didn’t realize Teheran threw so many ML innings so that one is fine. Wood is a candidate to go to the pen or be shut down by the end of the season, only 77.2 MLB innings last year. I could see his cap being anywhere from 150-180 rotation innings.

                    • Brocktoon

                      He threw another 62 in the minors last season.

                    • SenorGato

                      I know. If he didn’t I would have him capped in the 100-125 range.

                    • Brocktoon

                      I just don’t see a cap of 20 more innings as reasonable. I can buy 180, which would come out to 28 starts at his current pace. More than doable with a couple skips in the rotation and a couple juggles with off days.

                    • SenorGato

                      180 makes sense for him, but who is picking up the slack as the season moves on? Gavin Floyd? David Hale? Aaron Harang?

                    • Brocktoon

                      Yes, all 3 of them. If you lock in Teheran, Minor, and Santana for 3 full spots you’re asking those remaining 4 guys to take care of 2. You don’t trade for Samardzija to possibly miss a playoff rotation and you certainly don’t do it when the cost is one of the few position players you have with any sort of potential

      • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

        Aaron Harang is one of those pitchers

        • SenorGato

          Gavin Floyd and David Hale are two more of the others…The Braves should not be comfortable with their rotation.

        • Brocktoon

          Good thing they’ve added Mike Minor and Gavin Floyd to those 5. But they should probably focus on finding that important 8th starting pitcher rather than find a 3rd position player who isn’t the drizzling shits.

    • http://bleachernation.com woody

      I like that idea Jon. I have been saying for some time that we need another big left handed bat in the lineup. And right now the Braves are in a tail spin and might be willing to deal.

    • CubsFaninMS

      I’m not opposed to a Heyward trade. I’ve begun to come to the realization that we don’t need an immediate infusion of TOR arms in our farm systems. We’ve acquired good starting pitching for the past two seasons pretty easily. When it’s all said and done though, it will strongly depend on what prospects are offered (Stroman/Sanchez? Bundy/Gutierrez? etc.) and the upside of the prospects they can potentially acquire. If the Heyward trade is on the table, I’m guessing they will hold out to see what other offers are on the table. Samardzija is pitching very strong this season and they’re expecting to reel in a good catch if they can’t come to a contractual agreement.

  • Brocktoon

    Sounds like Jed did a Find and Replace in his script from last June for Garza and Samardzija.

  • SenorGato

    I don’t mind trading for Heyward, but why use Samardzija for that?

    • Jon

      Partly because I’m un-enamored the overrated reliever Toronto wants to peddle us.

      • SenorGato

        Get on the Gary Sanchez wagon. For some reason it’s light – though people have their general reasons that have nothing to do with Sanchez the player (he’s a Yankee prospect and Jesus Montero).

        • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

          It’s light because most, if not at all don’t believe that he will stick at catcher. The bat is legit though

          • SenorGato

            I see that as part of the Montero effect. It’s not a consensus at all in scouting reports, the PB and CS numbers have actually improved through the minors, and I was surprised to see BA slap an 80 on his arm. Has the right size and frame for the position too, the bat plays like a young guy without his power potential (good K:BB).

            I think he’s closer to an elite guy than most people think. Great pedigree too – he was the Eloy Jimenez of his IFA year – the top guy who has moved through the minors like a top guy.

            • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

              O he’s got a cannon for an arm, but every report I’ve seen is that he is a mess behind the plate when it comes to receiving and blocking. I don’t think that has anything to do with Montero. I really like Sanchez, just saying that’s why many people aren’t as high on him. He’s likely a 1B/DH at the big league level.

              • SenorGato

                I strongly disagree, and I’m curious as to what you’re reading. I know Parks isn’t a fan of his glove but besides him no one seems to push him into that 1B/DH category. I continue to insist this is part of Montero’s effect on his stock. He’s a way better athlete than Montero was and keeps himself in much better shape.

                A couple of the 2014 reports on Sanchez:

                “His biggest question: Defense

                Watch Sanchez play for a bit, and it’s easy to see that he struggles with the fundamentals. He’s a bit of an underrated athlete, so there’s potential to get better. But some scouts have questioned his work ethic when it comes to getting better at anything outside of hitting homers. That said, Sanchez throws out a lot of runners, and it’s not like he’s getting worse behind the plate as the years go. He isn’t a guy who has traditionally handled pitching staffs well, but you’re starting to hear some pitchers come to his defense in that regard.

                A year ago, I wasn’t sure he’d be able to stay behind the plate in the big leagues. That opinion has changed, but that’s not saying he’s ever going to be Johnny Bench.”

                http://blogs.thetimes-tribune.com/railriders/index.php/2014/04/02/prospect-no-2-gary-sanchez/

                “In the write-up, Law says Sanchez “has huge upside as a hitter, with plus-plus raw power and very hard contact.” His defense behind the plate, while improved, continues to need work. “Even a grade-45 defender [on the 20-80 scouting scale] back there with Sanchez’s potential offensive upside will be an MVP candidate, and if he continues to work at receiving and on his plate discipline he’ll be ready to take over and make a real impact for the Yankees by 2016,” added Law. The comparisons to Jesus Montero are inevitable, but Montero showed more potential with the bat and was far worse defensively.”

                http://riveraveblues.com/2014/01/yankees-land-three-on-keith-laws-top-100-prospects-list-99028/

      • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

        I’m curious as to why you say Marcus Stroman is a reliever? He does not have height, but he is not slight of frame like Edwards, he’s actually built like a house, leading one to believe he can easily hold up to the rigors of starting.

        • Jon

          He’d be more the exception to the rule(that being a workhouse starter at that size). I do think the Cubs can/should do better on a trade.

          • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

            Eh, there’s a big difference in being 6’2″ and 155 like Edwards and 5’9″ and 185 like Stroman. He’s short, but that doesn’t mean he can’t easily hold up to a large workload. The downward plane is an issue for me, but his ability to physically handle being a starter does not worry me one bit.

        • SenorGato

          I like Stroman and would start him out in the bullpen. There’s really nothing wrong with bringing up a young pitcher through the bullpen.

          I don’t think Stroman is an outright reliever, but I am not 100% sure of him as a plug and play starter.

    • Edwin

      Why not? It’s either Samardzija and 1-2 top prospects, or 3-4 top prospects.

      • SenorGato

        What’re you talking when you say top prospects?

        • Edwin

          Some of their better prospects, not just throw ins.

          • SenorGato

            Yeah, names would be nice. He’s not costing Bryant or Baez, so I’m probably going to be fine with it.

            • SenorGato

              If he passes physicals and all the necessary stuff to know you’re getting a guy who isn’t finished at a young age for one reason or another.

            • Edwin

              Trading Shark for Heyward probably involves throwing in someone like Almora or Soler, and possibly Alcantara as well.

              If you’re just trading prospects for Heyward, it’s probably either Baez or Bryant, and then one or two of Soler, Almora, Alcantara, or Edwards.

              • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

                Me thinks you incredibly overvalue Jason Heyward

                • Edwin

                  An OF who doesn’t turn 25 until August, already has a 6.4 WAR season to his credit, and is on pace to be a 4+ WAR player this season?

                  I mean, what type of package do you think lands him, with and without Shark?

                  • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

                    Also an OF who has 2 years left on his contract, this isn’t some pre-arb 24 year old. Shark plus a guy like Alcantara is about right. Without Shark, I’m not sure, but the names Baez and Bryant are nowhere near the conversation.

                  • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

                    Just so you know what the front office is looking for, they asked for Heyward (or J. Upton) AND Lucas Sims in return for Shark

                    • Brocktoon

                      Well that might be sillier than Shark-Almora-Alcantara

                    • Edwin

                      What the FO asks for doesn’t matter. They could ask the Angels for Mike Trout, it doesn’t mean that Samardijza is worth Mike Trout. It costs them nothing to ask, so why wouldn’t they ask for the moon?

                • SenorGato

                  Yeah, this. Heyward’s good but I’m not trading multiple top of the line prospects for a corner OFer with possible joint issues and so much of his more recent value in defense. They’ll ask for that only because they’d be stupid not to try.

                • Voice of Reason

                  Shark for hey ward straight up. The braves then get great value out of shark this year and next. We get a young left handed bat with a little speed too.

                  You are out of your mind to say give Baez or Bryant too. Good thing you’re not running the cubs.

                  If I’m the cubs I might throw in a prospect….. between #75 and #100 and that’s it. Braves make out and we make out. Good, old fashioned trade.

                  Get it done. An outfield of Bryant, almora and hey ward.

  • Wrigley1

    Today on Twitter Julie DiCaro mentioned that they were discussion Shark on The Game, specifically that the NTC is a major stumbling block for the Samardzija extension. I don’t know where their info is coming from, but it must be coming from somewhere.

    So that’s interesting if true. I know that Theo doesn’t like giving out NTCs and after living through the Hendry era I generally couldn’t be happier with that. I also realize you can’t give NTCs to some guys and not others, because how do you explain that?

    That being said, how often does an NTC really cause a problem? I realize it did with Dempster, but in the case of Shark, aren’t we kind of hoping we don’t need to trade him in the next 6 years? Don’t we hope that we are competitive and therefore won’t be having fire sales? And even with an NTC, it could be the kind where he has a list of teams he wants to go to, in the event we do have to trade him. And if we for some reason do have to trade him, wouldn’t we be trading him because things are not going well? Therefore wouldn’t Shark want out of here anyway?

    • Jon

      The NTC thing with Dempster was more an annoyance than a problem and it might have benefited the Cubs in the long wrong when you play out the whole “butterfly effect”

      • Wrigley1

        Right, forgot about that. I feel like the NTC is a little overblown. I don’t think they should be given to EVERYONE but I also don’t see a problem using them sparingly.

    • Edwin

      In the case of Dempter, it wasn’t even a NTC, it was 10-5, correct?

      • Jon

        yes, but I’m sure he also got a natural NTC from Hendry just to be safe :)

      • Brocktoon

        Yes, same with Soriano.

  • http://kempfintl.com pfk

    While I hope we can extend Shark, if we don’t we will still have a good player or two in exchange. I’m more concerned about the stalled negotiations with the rooftop owners. The silence in deafening.

  • jp3

    Anyone know why Kris Bryant was pulled today from Tennessee????

    • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

      stomach flu, should be back in the lineup tomorrow night

      • http://www.friendly-confines.com hansman

        He got in the same car as Brett and drove to QS Land.

        • Brocktoon

          I didn’t get this the first 3 times I read it. Well done

  • http://bleachernation.com woody

    I think the Homer Baily contract is the one Shark is using for his demands. The thing is that as things stand we have the pitching in house to be competative. Put an end to the amateur hour in the outfield and stabilize the second and third base positions and we can contend. In the past pitching has always been a weakness and now when we have it ownership wants to sell all the moving parts and punt again? To me extending Shark and Wood sends a message that we can compete in 2015. A big sell off just indicates that Ricketts isn’t going to get what he wants from the rooftops and doesn’t have the money to pay any good players.

    • BenRoethig

      I’d agree. You’d need an elite prospect back in return and even then they might take a couple years to develop. Wood is a solid 2b/Good 3, he’s not a #1. Edwards and Johnson might be good starters if healthy for bullpen guys if they’re not. Samardzija is becoming a solid #1. He might be a late bloomer, but he’ll be that veteran presence when we’re willing to compete. Trading him under any circumstances is a 2-3 year setback due to pitching.

      • SenorGato

        I don’t even buy that Wood is a solid 2B or Good 3.

        • SenorGato

          I need/want more fastball.

          • SenorGato

            After Samardzija the four seam and fastball velocity in general within this rotation is more functional than dominating. Fine if you want to suck, not going to work if you want to be great. Samardzija’s fastball isn’t dominant either, but he’s the one guy in this rotation I would trust to start a playoff game on stuff alone.

            If you’re counting on a guy throwing his cutter 40%(!!!!) of the time at 27 to be an anchor in future playoff rotations…

            This sounds like I don’t like Travis Wood, but I am enjoying these pre-FA years. I think he’s more a LH Jason Marquis in the long run than Andy Pettitte.

      • Chad

        It depdends on what the return is and who they sign in the off season. If they can get a guy like Stroman who is ML ready (supposedly) and Sanchez a few years off but sign Scherzer they are much further ahead, and I would argue that Shark is an ace quality pitcher. Just happens to be on this team that he is.

      • Brocktoon

        Applying numbers to rotation spots is arbitrary nonsense.

  • Dustin S

    Discussions as in whether he’d rather be traded to the East or West coast?

    I’d love for them to keep him if as I suspect the trade return offers are quite a bit less return than people are hoping for. But I just don’t see him having much desire to sign and suffer through more rebuild, when he’ll have offers for just as much or more $ from better teams. The writing has been on his face and in his frustrated comments for a couple years now.

  • Petey28

    I am really hoping for an extension. As exciting as it would be to get a shiny new prospect, he is a workhorse. I love the mentality he brings to the mound, fields his position well, and attacks at the plate. He is one of the faces of the Cubs and it would be hard to see him go.

    Would extending Shark, even if they pay more than originally inteded, have other benefits? Would it be easier to sign other free agents, bring in more revenue, etc? We’ve had some decent free agents (Feldman, Hammel) but there aren’t a ton of their jerseys in the bleachers.

  • E

    I wouldn’t mind a Shark trade only because I don’t see him as the #1 most people (and maybe himself) seem too. That said, I would prefer MLB or very nearly players in return. A Heyward deal would be good but I don’t see the Braves going for that without some more pieces from us involved. Bats offer longer term value than arms.

    Now the exception would be Matt Kemp since his big contract (I think $128 million) would add value for the Dodgers.

    • Jon

      I think Matt Kemp is just about done. They literally would have to pay the entire contract for it to even be a discussion.

      • SenorGato

        I’d want alot of money to take him but more into Kemp than Heyward, moving Kemp to LF.

        None of these guys seem like in-season trades anyway.

        • Jon

          Can we talk about how horrible Matt Kemp is trending?

          10th in NFL outfielders in wRC 124
          12th in NL outfieldres in wOBA

          Also that 29.2K% screams disaster to me as well. Move him off CF and his bat becomes even less valauble. I think a root canal would be more desirable then trading for Matt Kemp.

          • SenorGato

            124 wRC isn’t bad and two of those guys are Charlie Blackmon, Justin Upton (.400 BABIP), Angel Pagan (.374 BABIP)…He’s 5th in IsoSLG.

            Blackmon, Werth, Morse, and Byrd are all ahead of him in wOBA – I don’t think those guys are necessarily better players or better long term players than Kemp.

            I also think moving from CF would benefit his defensive value, but maybe the much smaller Wrigley CF would work too.

            Anyway, I don’t think it’s time to stick a fork in Kemp. He’s just expensive as fuck.

            • Brocktoon

              Yeah, I don’t think anyone is expecting MVP Matt Kemp, 10th in the NL is pretty good assuming you get a nice discount.

              • SenorGato

                Another positive is that declining Kemp’s early season numbers seems sustainable. No crazy BABIP, nothing crazy going on with his plate discipline…From there you know he’s capable of much more offense so long as he’s healthy.

                • http://www.survivingthalia.com Mike Taylor

                  Matt Kemp in RF or LF would be a welcome addition to this team and even though he’s at a -0.1 WAR right now, it doesn’t take away the fact that he’s got 1 HR per 26.5 PA, 10.4 BB%, a career low BABIP of .317, but would still be 2ND on this team in wRC+ w/124 and 3RD in wOBA w/.349!

                  I agree that the Dodgers would have to eat around 1/3-1/2 of the rest on his contract to get a deal done, but it’s plausible.

            • Edwin

              Just for comparison’s sake, Jason Heyward has a wRC+ over 120 the past two seasons, to go along with his elite defense.

              I’m curious why you’d prefer Kemp to Heyward, unless you think there’s more value to be had with Kemp.

              • SenorGato

                I probably over spoke with all that, but defense does age worse than offense. Other than that I was over opinionated. Either one would be welcome.

  • CubChymyst

    Since this year has started would any extension signed kick in next year? If so, then if Samardzija signs a 5 year extension the Cubs would have him until 2020 and control his rights until he is 35 and they be paying for 4 free agent years.

  • itzscott

    Just a feeling that the Cubs won’t make a decision whether to trade Samardzjia or extend him until after the draft when they’ll know if they drafted someone who is projected to be a TOR stud pitcher who could be with the team in a year or two. Add that to Samardzjia, Wood, and maybe Arrieta and maybe someone who develops from Iowa /TN and that suddenly starts looking like the best rotation in the division.

    • Voice of Reason

      They’re not going to base trading Shark on who is projected to be a stud pitcher in the draft.

      That’s ridiculous.

      There are no certain top of the line rotation guys in ANY minor league baseball draft. WAAAAYYYY to much of a crap shoot.

  • Blackhawks1963

    Samardzija is a 100% lock to be traded by July 31st.

    • Jon

      I thought he was gone today, Kap?

  • Jon

    Can we continue to talk about the stupidity of 13 man pitching staffs. At the cost of Shierholtz starting against lefties and Coughlan ending the game at bat, Pedro Strop and James Russell haven’t pitched since the 3rd! Why??! Why?!?! Why?!?!?

    • Brocktoon

      The 13 man staff is an awful thing I hope to never see again, but there have only been 2 games since the 3rd.

      • Jon

        Yesterday was an extra innings game and with that they are still struggling to find all of them consistent work. It just makes no sense other than you could argue there is nothing special bat-wise to call up from Iowa, which might be true.

        • http://BleacherNation blewett

          Not to mention we had to use a pitcher (Travis Wood) as a pinch-hitter.

  • Petey28

    He is under contract until after next year, correct? What are the chances that he neither signs an extension and they don’t find a suitable trading partner for him?

    • SenorGato

      Hopefully not high, but I bet Epstein will have some placating words to calm us down.

    • Petey28

      Obviously, there’s so much that can happen between now and July 31st; both of 2014 and 2015. I wonder if the team was looking more competitive and Shark continues do well before the trade deadline if they would be able to work something out. Am I the only one that finds it odd that most of the media have him being traded FOR SURE? Most of the stuff that I’ve read/heard doesn’t even mention the possibility of working something out.

    • Voice of Reason

      The Cubs will not let Shark walk. He will be traded or they will sign him. They might not be the sharpest tools in the shed, but that’s a guarantee!

      • Petey28

        Oh sorry for the confusion. I meant that for this year. Re-evaluate and negotiate in the offseason/before next year’s trade deadline. He isn’t a free agent until after the 2015 season, correct?

  • Dumpgobbler

    Watch out for Ruben Amaro Jr to unload something good to upgrade the ML club. Probably try to upgrade 3B but you never know..

  • cubfanincardinalland

    Jeff, because of the guy that owns the team, we really don’t have the money to sign you to a market rate contract. You are pitching super, and we really want you, so how about a discount deal.
    Jeff-No chance.
    End of discussion. What a bunch of bullshit.

    • Chad

      Yep, I’m sure that’s how it went.

  • diamonddon

    Cubs should wait for Stanton to become a free agent and then throw big bucks at him. Only would cost a first round draft pick.

    • http://fullcount1544.blogspot.com FullCountTommy

      Or not bank on that, as it is just as likely that he gets traded to a team like the Red Sox and never makes it to free agency.

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