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wrigley field from right bleachersIt feels like it’s been a while since the Cubs just got flat-out whooped in a game. Their losses of late have all been of the coulda-woulda-shoulda variety, which only depresses me more.

Tonight, Edwin Jackson will look to hold down the many early-season-impressive bats in the White Sox’s lineup, while the Cubs will face Hector Noesi, who is trying to sub into the Sox’s beat up rotation. If the Cubs can be especially patient, they could have Noesi out of the game early, which could only help them today and the next two days, given how much the White Sox had to use their bullpen last night.

The White Sox’s lineup is a repeat of last night, while the Cubs change things up a bit, with Junior Lake getting a start in center field, and Chris Coghlan making his first start with the Cubs in left field.

Game Info

Chicago White Sox (16-17) at Chicago Cubs (11-19), 7:05 CT on WGN, CSN (Sox).

Game Thread and Series Preview

The Game Thread lives here. And, of course, for those who aren’t into message board-style game threads, please feel free to use the comments on this post for your in-game commentary/outbursts.

The Series Preview lives here.

Starting Pitchers

Hector Noesi (11.12 ERA, 3.47 FIP, 4.26 xFIP; 3.00 K/BB)

versus

Edwin Jackson (5.24 ERA, 3.64 FIP, 4.47 xFIP; 1.53 K/BB)

Chicago White Sox Lineup

1. Alejandro De Aza, CF

2. Gordon Beckham, 2B

3. Jose Abreu, 1B

4. Adam Dunn, LF

5. Dayan Viciedo, RF

6. Alexei Ramirez, SS

7. Tyler Flowers, C

8. Marcus Semien, 3B

9. Hector Noesi, P

Chicago Cubs Lineup

1. Emilio Bonifacio, 2B

2. Luis Valbuena, 3B

3. Anthony Rizzo, 1B

4. Starlin Castro, SS

5. Welington Castillo, C

6. Nate Schierholtz, RF

7. Junior Lake, CF

8. Chris Coghlan, LF

9. Edwin Jackson, P

  • http://bleachernation.com woody

    I like our chances with Lake and Coghlan at the bottom of the order. Having Barney and Baker in those spots the other night was pathetic. Hopefully Jacksn brings his A game and we jump all over their guy.

    • KHRSS

      It’s sad that we get excited to see Coghlan batting 8th instead of baker or barney.

    • Q-Ball

      If we can’t post runs against a starting pitcher who was picked up off waivers 10 days ago, we’re in trouble

  • Q-Ball

    Our OF is bad offensively, but defensively that Sox OF of Dunn-De Aza-Viciedo is BRUTAL! If you hit it to the OF, everyone remember to just keep running

  • KHRSS

    I am glad RR has put Castillo at the 5 spot. Schierholtz should probably be batting 7.

  • notcubbiewubbie

    once again richard avina renteria has a lineup featuring coghlan(washed out nobody who has nothing to do with the future) instead of olt against the crappy pitcher. i’m really glad he is looking to match the younger players against the pitchers they can have sucess against.STICK TO THE PLAN!!!

    • SenorGato

      Olt is a nobody and probably has nothing to do with the future. That actually stung to type – hate saying shit like this about players whether I like them or not, but I am also a Cubs fan.

      • SenorGato

        As a Cubs fan i still want what is best for the Cubs yada yada…Olt is roster filler for bad teams. He’s collecting a MLers paycheck either way so that’s nice.

        • Rich H

          WOW Gato. It has been a long time since I have read you this down on any player. I just do not see it yet. I do agree if he wants to be in the line up he had better start earning it.
          That is one thing about Renteria I actually enjoy. Other than Castro and Rizzo no one else is written down in stone. Now if he can work on those bullpen usage problems.

          • notcubbiewubbie

            This guy is just like piniella when it comes to the bullpen BRUTAL!

            • Rich H

              LEARNING is how I choose to look at it right now. If in September he is still doing some of this stuff then I will be on the BRUTAL bandwagon.

          • SenorGato

            If you read what I write then I’m down on alot of players. This is just the probably very rare case where a player is getting tons of fan support to start despite next to no merit. Felt similar when the Logan Watkins over Barney stuff was going on. These guys are not going to be first division starters – just because the team sucks doesn’t mean tons and tons and tons and tons of ML innings and PAs have to go into finding that out. That there’s some shot that in a given year things could really go that player’s way doesn’t mean much – that’s something I am more willing to roll with on Barney or Valbuena or Castillo than Olt.

            I also think it would bother the other players somewhere somehow.

            • SenorGato

              If he starts hitting in the PAs he does get then maybe there’s room to move up.

  • http://bleachernation.com woody

    Olt is just a victim of the prospect propaganda campain that build guys into legends to deflect the pitiful product on the field. And I’m not saying that just to be mean either. I have seen people get excited about prospects before, but I’m not sure I have ever seen an organization put young kids out there as the faces of the franchise before.

    • Rich H

      Woody most of his prospect love was from the Texas days not now. The media it seems is the trying to move the needle with anyone they can and right now that is the kids and Shark trade/extension talk. So the question I guess is the Cubs putting the kids out there as saviors or is the media looking for something/anything to get some interest in this team? I seem to think it is mostly the latter because there is hardly an interview with even the manager where they do not ask about kids that are not on the 25 man yet.

  • Medicos

    Interesting seeing Chris Coghlan in the Cubs lineup. He was the ROY for Miami in 2009 and during the next four 4-years (2010-2013) became a part time player on the Marlins as his batting statistics decreased every year.

    2009 Stats:

    .321 BA
    9 HR
    47 RBI
    .460 SLG
    .850 OPS
    .390 OPB

    The most difficult aspect of staying in MLB is being able to maintain high levels of batting consistency year after year. I can still remember an Indians outfielder named Joe Charboneau .In 1980 he was named ROY and two years later he was out of baseball forever:

    1980: .289 BA 1981: .210 BA
    23 HR 4 HR
    18 RBI
    87 RBI .362 SLG
    .488 SLG ..609 OPS
    .846 OPS .247 OPB
    .358 OPB .4 WAR
    2.4 WAR

  • Diehardthefirst

    Jax to give up 3 HR if pitches 5 and 5 if 7 and Cubs will lose 9-2 with this match up

    • BlameHendry

      k

    • mudge

      & that’s just to Abreu.

  • http://BN Sacko

    I would like to see Olt get more ABs then he’s getting. The whiffs are less with a little more contact lately that hasn’t gone anywhere but I think he’s getting closer to solid contact.

    • Darth Ivy

      maybe they’re playing Olt part time to keep some trade value with Valbuena? Just thinking with my fingers here.

  • Jon

    Weiters to possibly have TJS

    Shark to Yanks
    Bundy or Gausman to Cubs
    Gary Sanchez to Orioles

    Thoughts ?

    • Jason P

      The Orioles are going to trade Bundy or Gausman for Gary Sanchez? There’s a big drop off there.

      • Jon

        Sanchez might be the best catching prospect in baseball now and long term they can move Wieters to first to preserve him

        Auxially pieces are moved across the 3 teams to balance it out if necessary but it makes sense

        • Jason P

          We’re still talking about trading a top-75 prospect for a top-25 prospect. The Yankees would have to include another pretty big piece.

          • SenorGato

            BA and MLB had Sanchez as a top 35 prospect IIRC. Gausman is injured and Bundy is rehabbing from his injury.

            That said, I wouldn’t do this deal if I was the Cubs.

    • SenorGato

      I’d rather have the elite catching prospect than the injured pitching prospect talent.

  • http://bleachernation.com woody

    No they are not playing Olt part time to increase Valbuena’s value. They already know his value and unless somebody wanted to give something of value for him I think that the Cubs keep him s a utility player and role model for the younger Latin players. The reason Olt is playing part time is because he has sucked. If he continues as is I look for them to bring up Villanuev for a look.

  • Jason P

    Hector Noesi is an awful baseball player. Mostly in relief, he’s posted -1.6 WAR in 4 seasons and has already been cut by 2 teams this year. In the last 3 years, lefties have an .859 OPS off him.

    If we don’t score at least 4 runs tonight, we should just give up.

    • willis

      Haha, well, so far they look awful at the plate. Who knew.

  • Medicos

    Evidently a number of the Cub hitters are learning THE CUBS PLAN . Leading the league in seeing the most pitches in each plate appearance: 3.97. Sad the thing is that the Cubs are scoring less than 4 runs per game and last with .197 RISP

  • baldtaxguy

    Any word on Bryant’s early exit today?

    • nakedman1664

      Stomach flu, I believe.

  • SenorGato

    Robby Ray’s throwing well for Detroit. Not convinced they lost that trade.

  • nakedman1664

    Hope Tulo stays healthy over there in Colorado, for once.

  • Jon

    Fitting the Cubs would bet getting dominated by this bum so far

  • Serious Cubs Fan

    Been watching Baez’s at-bats the last week and it doesn’t look pretty. When is it time to slightly worry? I read Bretts article but I still don’t feel confident about him adjusting to hitting breaking balls. Baez can crush pitchers mistakes over the plate but a lot of these older more experience pitchers that don’t have great stuff but have a below average-average quality breaking pitch that can locate it over the plate are making Baez look like a little leaguer at the plate. He still has time to adjust but I’d leave him down all season to work on approach and work on hit hitting breaking balls

  • SenorGato

    Future Cub Shintaro Fujinami started today in the NPB:

    6 IP/4 BB/ 5 Ks/ 3 H/ 2 ER

    • Brocktoon

      Only have to wait 5 more years for him to be posted. Should coincide perfectly with the start of the renovations..

      • Serious Cubs Fan

        I hope to God the Wrigley Renovations are started and we in the playoffs before then. And maybe Ricketts will spend some $ by then

    • Serious Cubs Fan

      There is still a good 4 or 5 years before Shintaro Fujinami comes over to the MLB. If he pans out to be the stud everyone thinks he could be

  • Jon

    Vitters just hit his 2nd HR of the night

    • itzscott

      Bring him up… Let’s see what he can do…… Why would they wait?….. What’s to lose?

  • jp3

    Sierra hit a liner up the middle, guess this was his one time in 10 ABs he gets on base…

  • itzscott

    At what point do we begin to cast a wary eye on Bill Mueller ?

    • Voice of Reason

      Seriously? Bill Mueller is to blame?

      God, himself, could not help this team offensively.

    • Jason P

      I know, right? He’s done a terrible job getting this supremely talented offense to produce.

      • itzscott

        You guys can get woodies over walks, pitches per plate appearance and all sorts of minutiae but the fact is these players aren’t hitting VERY medioce, hittable pitchers who have had little success against any other teams.

        • Drew7

          Except nobody said anything about getting “woodies over walks” – they said the players suck. I thought that was pretty clear.

        • Brocktoon

          Like Adam Wainwright.

          The offense is bad because it’s made up largely of bad players.

          • half_full_beer_mug

            You could also substitute inconsistent for bad in that last sentence.

  • cubmig

    1 – zip in favor of the other guys. I wonder if the Cubs will be able to manufacture one run to at least tie. Where’d all the hitting go?

  • cubmig

    …….oh. Never mind. I see…. Bill Mueller told the guys to rest their bats……oh, o.k.

  • willis

    Baez 0-3 with 2 Ks tonight. Yikes. I’d at least like to see him make contact.

    • BlameHendry

      Put a fork in him.

  • renegade4196

    Baez 0 for 3 again tonight…makes me think that him going to Iowa in the first place was a mistake. He should have just broken camp. Like this team has anything to lose. Now Baez is just looking a lot like BJax.

    • baldtaxguy

      Huh? He’s terrible because he is hitting against PCL pitching?

  • nakedman1664

    Weird how baseball works sometimes. Jump all over Wainwright just a few days ago…and tonight to this bum…nothing.

  • waittilthisyear

    nates bat speed looks noticeably slower. like he is swinging underwater

  • BlameHendry

    The Sox pitcher is 0-10 in his last 14 big league games. And the Cubes are making him look like Cy Young. Sigh…

    • waittilthisyear

      shark hasnt won since last august and the sox made look like cy young. fun with stats!

      • BlameHendry

        Okay fine, this guy entered the game with a 11 ERA.

        • half_full_beer_mug

          Well everyone on here think that Jackson is crap and one of the worst starters in MLB, so evidently the Sox hitters suck just as much.

          • ssckelley

            Their base running certainly sucks.

  • baldtaxguy

    Lake just singled on a breaking ball.

    • nakedman1664

      First one this year, right?

      • baldtaxguy

        Blackhawks1963
        May 4, 2014 at 11:26 am | Permalink | Reply
        Wacha and Molina were fool to throw Lake fastballs. He’s painfully demonstrated the inability to hit any breaking ball. And with all due respect his 3-3 on Saturday really changes nothing. He’s not getting better. He’s not figuring it out. He hits fastballs and that is it.

        • half_full_beer_mug

          It really was a fastball, it was just an optical illusion on the TV ;)

  • BlameHendry

    fucking Jackson. These pitchers who have been in the NL for years not being able to get bunts down is just pathetic. Do the Cubs not have their pitchers practice bunting ever???

    • half_full_beer_mug

      I would think they do but not against live pitching. Doubt any team does that.

    • renegade4196

      Renteria is very busy having everyone else practice bunting, so there’s no time for pitchers to learn.

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